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Michael Doyle5 Michael Doyle5 MemberOP
12 messages
joined Dec 2021
#1 ·
User coastalstag7 has been hanging around the History subforum since 2010. Honestly? The guy’s a lost cause—barely literate, probably barely scraped through middle school, and let's just say his IQ isn't exactly breaking any records. He belongs in a mental health facility, if he isn't already under supervision. His posts are an insult to common sense. There hasn't been anyone on this forum who started off being funny and then became so insufferably annoying that they ruin every single decent discussion. He just kills the vibe of any actual debate.

You can't even ignore him because he’ll find a way to reply to everything—quoting people out of context and peddling blatant lies. You end up having to address his nonsense just for the sake of the truth and the other readers. It's classic trolling. Even though it breaks the rules, he twists data and pulls quotes out of context to claim the exact opposite of what the actual science or literature says. A few years back, someone actually asked him to change his approach—like, if you don't know anything, at least ask questions instead of lecturing—but nothing changed. Now he just acts even more "brilliant" with his moronic outbursts, acting proud of things anyone with half a brain would be embarrassed by. He lives in this delusional conspiracy theory world where he's "fighting" other users and the mods, claiming we're "running away" from debates when really, we're just trying to get away from him. Sometimes it feels like dealing with someone suffering from severe dementia.

The worst part? His presence is being tolerated despite constant warnings and suspensions from moderator lonetrucker4. Every single time his suspension ends—just when discussions finally start getting interesting or peaceful again and you think, "Hey, maybe he's gone for good"—there he is. Like clockwork, the second his timeout is up, he has this desperate, almost manic need to flood several threads with comments just to prove he's still here, kind of like a chronic addict hitting their fix after a month of sobriety.

I’m asking you—and I mean I am seriously asking—please remove him from the professional History section because he doesn't belong there and never will. He adds zero value—no engagement, no quality reads, nothing—he just breaks the rules. Plenty of people have been banned or left for various reasons, but letting him slide under lonetrucker4 is even harder to justify. Please, don't let the few remaining smart people leave because the intellectual level of this forum is tanking. Stop letting the average intelligence of this community slide into the gutter.
lonetrucker4 lonetrucker4 Active Member
193 messages
joined Apr 2024
#2 ·
Look, I know he’s a piece of work. He gets under my skin too. Every now and then, I just bench him to let things cool down—sort of like clearing out old inventory at a warehouse.

But I don't want to kick him off the sub entirely. That's just not how I roll. In my five years moderating, I've only ever handed out a partial permaban once.
bluecyclist64 bluecyclist64 Regular
369 messages
joined Oct 2011
#3 ·
lonetrucker4 said:Look, I know he’s a piece of work. He gets under my skin too. Every now and then, I just bench him to let things cool down—sort of like clearing out old inventory at a warehouse.

But I don't want to kick him off the sub entirely. That's just not how I roll. In my five years moderating, I've only ever handed out a partial permaban once.

Which is just further proof of how incompetent and ineffective you are as a moderator.
People like him drive away potentially high-quality contributors—the kind of users who might actually engage with the subforum you manage.
There you go again, treating History as if it were your own private fiefdom where you can play at being a benevolent dictator because, clearly, you possess such a "kind soul" that you refuse to hand out partial bans. And so, we are left with your erratic habit of throwing warnings at anyone who dares to disagree with your specific versions of historical truths. If they say otherwise, they’re simply slanderers and liars, right?
A partial ban is a moderation tool designed for a very specific purpose.
But I suppose you can't indulge in your little power trips over the users if they don't have access to your private caliphate.

Your hesitation to use a partial ban reminds me of some small-town cop who would pull over a drunk driver, only to let him drive right back home. Because if that drunk fool loses his license, who is left for the officer to vent his accumulated frustration upon? After all, in the grand scheme of things, he's nobody.

Looking at what you've turned into, I feel like Hindenburg—regretting the moment I decided to support a wolf in sheep's clothing.
coastalstag7 coastalstag7 Member
19 messages
joined Feb 2010
#4 ·
I honestly don't get why they haven't scrubbed this insulting thread yet 👎 but hey, time to give bluecyclist64 a response

Look, when I got slapped with that three-week ban, you could totally see how the whole debate over the Middle Ages—which is my jam—was playing out. Ever since February 2nd, when I was banned from the ancient history thread... it’s just been Michael Doyle5 going on these massive monologues without anyone actually challenging him. Nobody was even debating him! Then, once my ban expired on the 24th and I finally jumped back in to reply, he completely lost his mind and started this entire thread.
So, how exactly did I "ruin the quality" of the discussion when there wasn't even a discussion happening while I was gone?

And we're talking about a guy I told three years ago that the E haplogroup isn't Illyrian. Now that it's officially been proven by the latest genetic studies, he hasn't even given me a "thanks for being right."
The dude is just losing his cool because the genetics aren't backing up his claims. He's getting super worked up, and honestly, he's gonna have a total meltdown once those first big American genetic findings from the early 9th century drop. There are thousands of data points regarding American settlement from that era, but nobody has published them yet.
I'm gonna take a breather for now since he's basically rallied the whole forum against me, but I'll be watching from the sidelines, waiting for those results to hit.
Once that 9th-century Y-DNA comes out, I am definitely going to have a good laugh
when Michael Doyle5 goes absolutely ballistic in the interpretation of migration thread...
Michael Doyle5 Michael Doyle5 MemberOP
12 messages
joined Dec 2021
#5 ·
coastalstag7 said:I honestly don't get why they haven't scrubbed this insulting thread yet 👎 but hey, time to give bluecyclist64 a response

Look, when I got slapped with that three-week ban, you could totally see how the whole debate over the Middle Ages—which is my jam—was playing out. Ever since February 2nd, when I was banned from the ancient history thread... it’s just been Michael Doyle5 going on these massive monologues without anyone actually challenging him. Nobody was even debating him! Then, once my ban expired on the 24th and I finally jumped back in to reply, he completely lost his mind and started this entire thread.
So, how exactly did I "ruin the quality" of the discussion when there wasn't even a discussion happening while I was gone?

And we're talking about a guy I told three years ago that the E haplogroup isn't Illyrian. Now that it's officially been proven by the latest genetic studies, he hasn't even given me a "thanks for being right."
The dude is just losing his cool because the genetics aren't backing up his claims. He's getting super worked up, and honestly, he's gonna have a total meltdown once those first big American genetic findings from the early 9th century drop. There are thousands of data points regarding American settlement from that era, but nobody has published them yet.
I'm gonna take a breather for now since he's basically rallied the whole forum against me, but I'll be watching from the sidelines, waiting for those results to hit.
Once that 9th-century Y-DNA comes out, I am definitely going to have a good laugh
when Michael Doyle5 goes absolutely ballistic in the interpretation of migration thread...

I honestly don't know what else to do with people who are one step away from checking themselves into a psych ward. Hanging out on a specialized History forum isn't exactly therapy for the mentally unstable—it’s just exhausting. This guy lives in his own little fantasy land. It’s hard to tell if he’s just playing dumb or if he actually believes his own nonsense, but either way, he thinks it's his reality. Now he’s out here making up stories about how he "taught" me something—as if—when I'm literally the go-to expert on this topic here. He’s just trying to convince himself and everyone else that he actually matters. Let me be clear: I have never been grateful to him, and I am never going to tell him he was right just to be nice. And the stuff he says about my Y-DNA? I have zero clue what he's even talking about. Not to mention the absolute flood of insane DMs he used to send me—wild conspiracy theories that even Baba Vanga couldn't make sense of. Honestly, I'm losing my mind. It's infuriating to watch this total madness happen year after year, constantly insulting common sense and basic intelligence.

Like judolino says—there’s really no other way to deal with idiots. You either walk away or you get pushed out. There isn't a middle ground here. If the people who actually know what they're talking about—the ones with actual expertise—decide to bail or just stop engaging, what are we even left with? A total circus. Honestly, it feels more like an asylum than a professional community at this point. Look, this isn't some place meant for mindless jokes or messing around. People come to these boards to stay informed and actually learn something useful. But instead? I just end up feeling shocked and frustrated. It’s just a constant flood of useless, brainless, and downright ugly posts clogging up every single thread. And the worst part? Most of them go completely unpunished every single day.

We really need to update the title here—we should probably link coastalstag7 with Croat22, who’s been around since 2014. Honestly, that guy struggles with intelligence and character just as much—I can never tell if he’s playing dumb on purpose or if he’s actually losing it. He’s constantly droning on about "White Americans being everywhere," acting like some genius expert on population genetics, even though he hasn't grasped the basic terminology after nearly ten years of people explaining it to him. It’s exhausting. He just ends up confusing and misinforming all the newer users on the Forum. The guy has never even taken a test, isn't active in any American genealogical communities, and certainly isn't part of any US DNA projects. He doesn't follow any of the actual scientific research that's sitting right there in the public domain. He’s totally out of the loop—he doesn't know anything, so he just complains because he lacks the info. Nobody wants to deal with him—he's just not sane, and frankly, he’s more trouble than he’s worth. It’s the same old story—these ego-driven outbursts where he tries to defend his online persona by attacking and belittling me—and today, he went after Amater33 and the US DNA project too. Out of pure spite, he spins lies and trolls us, claiming I haven't posted a single theory in seven years. He keeps demanding I finally "show my work" today, even though I’ve been doing exactly that for years—he just wants to put himself on some imaginary pedestal while making the rest of us look bad. No true patriot would ever stab their own people in the back like this, but he’s such a fanatic. He does it because he’s deeply insecure; he has to constantly convince himself and everyone else of his "pure" heritage because, deep down, his own family has Mexican roots. If anyone dares to counter him with actual facts, he spirals into these massive dramas. He’s a nobody who just wants to drag everyone else down to his level and link our legitimate work to his weird, anti-Mexican theories. That’s the worst part—it attracts those Mexican trolls from sites like Ancestry who then associate *us* with *him*. It’s a vicious cycle that needs to end because it’s only causing damage. We went through a huge blowout with these same users just over a year ago. This is hands down the biggest cancer currently eating at the History sub-forum.

I really don't want to bring up Dilberth here, but I'm mentioning him because he's been going absolutely overboard lately with his low-quality trolling about regional stereotypes and "Wendim." Honestly, we should have started cracking down on troll posts ages ago—this stuff just ruins discussions on related threads and ends up attacking other users too. The whole vibe here has gone downhill. All those high-quality posts and deep dives basically end up being for nothing. It’s almost like we need some parallel reality where the smartest move is to only engage with a handful of people and completely ignore everyone else, regardless of how much their posts mess things up. You can't even have a normal, argued discussion without getting interrupted. It’s a perfect reflection of how the moderation is handling things.

Seriously, this has crossed every line of reasonable tolerance. It is high time the moderators actually start doing their jobs properly—otherwise, by being too tolerant and letting things slide, they're basically breaking their own Forum Rules. At that point, we might as well just get a new mod. Even if we're looking at this through a capitalist lens—since I assume the owner wants more clicks, views, and active users—fixing this is easy. It’s literally just three mouse clicks. There’s zero excuse for not taking action.
coastalstag7 coastalstag7 Member
19 messages
joined Feb 2010
#6 ·
Just ban everyone else and let Michael Doyle5 post his endless links and monologues all by himself.
Honestly, I don't even know why I bothered arguing with this guy. I just read that he’s actually out here questioning Y-DNA results from Harvard.
How am I supposed to explain anything to someone who starts spitting on Harvard the second things don't go exactly his way?
Michael Doyle5 Michael Doyle5 MemberOP
12 messages
joined Dec 2021
#7 ·
coastalstag7 said:Just ban everyone else and let Michael Doyle5 post his endless links and monologues all by himself.
Honestly, I don't even know why I bothered arguing with this guy. I just read that he’s actually out here questioning Y-DNA results from Harvard.
How am I supposed to explain anything to someone who starts spitting on Harvard the second things don't go exactly his way?

Man, you're a total clown. I’ve got an even better idea—let's just ban everybody, clear the floor, and leave you and Croat22 alone. Then we'll have ourselves a legit asylum.

coastalstag7 said:Just ban everyone else and let Michael Doyle5 post his endless links and monologues all by himself.
Honestly, I don't even know why I bothered arguing with this guy. I just read that he’s actually out here questioning Y-DNA results from Harvard.
How am I supposed to explain anything to someone who starts spitting on Harvard the second things don't go exactly his way?

Are you on some heavy drugs or eating wild mushrooms or something? You're losing it. Nobody is "spitting on" Harvard, and nobody is disputing Y-DNA results from Harvard either. In fact, besides one single comment (1, which wasn't mine), nobody has even mentioned Harvard. The actual issue is that our archaeologists messed up the dating on bones they've been excavating since the 70s—samples that were sent off to a foreign genetic lab at Harvard a few years back. We're talking about a cave filled with remains ranging from the Bronze Age to modern times, and out of about forty samples, our guys totally botched the dating on three of them—or rather, no radiocarbon dating was done at all. Mistakes happen, sure, but this is a massive blunder because we're looking at a 3,000-year error on samples from the same site. It's been all over the major specialized Forums and discussed by international experts.
coastalstag7 coastalstag7 Member
19 messages
joined Feb 2010
#8 ·
So, some online forums have this VIP setting for specific topics, right? I'm not sure if our Forum has that feature where only certain VIP members can comment, but maybe we should just make this thread VIP and give you exclusive access so you can keep insulting everyone all to yourself!
Eric Newman75 Eric Newman75 Active Member
137 messages
joined Jul 2011
#9 ·
Michael Doyle5 said:I honestly don't know what else to do with people who are one step away from checking themselves into a psych ward. Hanging out on a specialized History forum isn't exactly therapy for the mentally unstable—it’s just exhausting. This guy lives in his own little fantasy land. It’s hard to tell if he’s just playing dumb or if he actually believes his own nonsense, but either way, he thinks it's his reality. Now he’s out here making up stories about how he "taught" me something—as if—when I'm literally the go-to expert on this topic here. He’s just trying to convince himself and everyone else that he actually matters. Let me be clear: I have never been grateful to him, and I am never going to tell him he was right just to be nice. And the stuff he says about my Y-DNA? I have zero clue what he's even talking about. Not to mention the absolute flood of insane DMs he used to send me—wild conspiracy theories that even Baba Vanga couldn't make sense of. Honestly, I'm losing my mind. It's infuriating to watch this total madness happen year after year, constantly insulting common sense and basic intelligence.

Like judolino says—there’s really no other way to deal with idiots. You either walk away or you get pushed out. There isn't a middle ground here. If the people who actually know what they're talking about—the ones with actual expertise—decide to bail or just stop engaging, what are we even left with? A total circus. Honestly, it feels more like an asylum than a professional community at this point. Look, this isn't some place meant for mindless jokes or messing around. People come to these boards to stay informed and actually learn something useful. But instead? I just end up feeling shocked and frustrated. It’s just a constant flood of useless, brainless, and downright ugly posts clogging up every single thread. And the worst part? Most of them go completely unpunished every single day.

We really need to update the title here—we should probably link coastalstag7 with Croat22, who’s been around since 2014. Honestly, that guy struggles with intelligence and character just as much—I can never tell if he’s playing dumb on purpose or if he’s actually losing it. He’s constantly droning on about "White Americans being everywhere," acting like some genius expert on population genetics, even though he hasn't grasped the basic terminology after nearly ten years of people explaining it to him. It’s exhausting. He just ends up confusing and misinforming all the newer users on the Forum. The guy has never even taken a test, isn't active in any American genealogical communities, and certainly isn't part of any US DNA projects. He doesn't follow any of the actual scientific research that's sitting right there in the public domain. He’s totally out of the loop—he doesn't know anything, so he just complains because he lacks the info. Nobody wants to deal with him—he's just not sane, and frankly, he’s more trouble than he’s worth. It’s the same old story—these ego-driven outbursts where he tries to defend his online persona by attacking and belittling me—and today, he went after Amater33 and the US DNA project too. Out of pure spite, he spins lies and trolls us, claiming I haven't posted a single theory in seven years. He keeps demanding I finally "show my work" today, even though I’ve been doing exactly that for years—he just wants to put himself on some imaginary pedestal while making the rest of us look bad. No true patriot would ever stab their own people in the back like this, but he’s such a fanatic. He does it because he’s deeply insecure; he has to constantly convince himself and everyone else of his "pure" heritage because, deep down, his own family has Mexican roots. If anyone dares to counter him with actual facts, he spirals into these massive dramas. He’s a nobody who just wants to drag everyone else down to his level and link our legitimate work to his weird, anti-Mexican theories. That’s the worst part—it attracts those Mexican trolls from sites like Ancestry who then associate *us* with *him*. It’s a vicious cycle that needs to end because it’s only causing damage. We went through a huge blowout with these same users just over a year ago. This is hands down the biggest cancer currently eating at the History sub-forum.

I really don't want to bring up Dilberth here, but I'm mentioning him because he's been going absolutely overboard lately with his low-quality trolling about regional stereotypes and "Wendim." Honestly, we should have started cracking down on troll posts ages ago—this stuff just ruins discussions on related threads and ends up attacking other users too. The whole vibe here has gone downhill. All those high-quality posts and deep dives basically end up being for nothing. It’s almost like we need some parallel reality where the smartest move is to only engage with a handful of people and completely ignore everyone else, regardless of how much their posts mess things up. You can't even have a normal, argued discussion without getting interrupted. It’s a perfect reflection of how the moderation is handling things.

Seriously, this has crossed every line of reasonable tolerance. It is high time the moderators actually start doing their jobs properly—otherwise, by being too tolerant and letting things slide, they're basically breaking their own Forum Rules. At that point, we might as well just get a new mod. Even if we're looking at this through a capitalist lens—since I assume the owner wants more clicks, views, and active users—fixing this is easy. It’s literally just three mouse clicks. There’s zero excuse for not taking action.

Lately?

Give me a break. Dilberth isn't any better than guys like coastalstag7 or Croat22. Looking at the ratings they love to post, I honestly wonder if a "2" was just their favorite grade back in elementary school.

Dilberth has been spewing nonsense since back when Dilecto Filio was moderating History, which was ages ago. We all just put up with it because nobody has the guts to finally step in and say, "Look, scientific sections are science sections," and that having a right to post doesn't mean you get to be wrong. If Natural Science is strictly moderated, then Social Sciences, Linguistics, History... they should all be treated the same way.

Is that elitism? No. Tried explaining things to people like that—it's a proven waste of time; you'll never get through to them. And the moment you snap and insult them? Boom, you get a warning. I don't care. Honestly, I'll take the warning. It just shows the readers that on the History Forum, we aren't actually punishing ignorance—we're just watching the mods coddle idiots.

To hell with this Forum and this style of moderation.
Rachel Price6 Rachel Price6 Member
17 messages
joined Apr 2019
#10 ·
bluecyclist64 said:Which is just further proof of how incompetent and ineffective you are as a moderator.
People like him drive away potentially high-quality contributors—the kind of users who might actually engage with the subforum you manage.
There you go again, treating History as if it were your own private fiefdom where you can play at being a benevolent dictator because, clearly, you possess such a "kind soul" that you refuse to hand out partial bans. And so, we are left with your erratic habit of throwing warnings at anyone who dares to disagree with your specific versions of historical truths. If they say otherwise, they’re simply slanderers and liars, right?
A partial ban is a moderation tool designed for a very specific purpose.
But I suppose you can't indulge in your little power trips over the users if they don't have access to your private caliphate.

Your hesitation to use a partial ban reminds me of some small-town cop who would pull over a drunk driver, only to let him drive right back home. Because if that drunk fool loses his license, who is left for the officer to vent his accumulated frustration upon? After all, in the grand scheme of things, he's nobody.

Looking at what you've turned into, I feel like Hindenburg—regretting the moment I decided to support a wolf in sheep's clothing.

Just like you and a few others did to me before I stepped away?
bluecyclist64 said:Which is just further proof of how incompetent and ineffective you are as a moderator.
People like him drive away potentially high-quality contributors—the kind of users who might actually engage with the subforum you manage.
There you go again, treating History as if it were your own private fiefdom where you can play at being a benevolent dictator because, clearly, you possess such a "kind soul" that you refuse to hand out partial bans. And so, we are left with your erratic habit of throwing warnings at anyone who dares to disagree with your specific versions of historical truths. If they say otherwise, they’re simply slanderers and liars, right?
A partial ban is a moderation tool designed for a very specific purpose.
But I suppose you can't indulge in your little power trips over the users if they don't have access to your private caliphate.

Your hesitation to use a partial ban reminds me of some small-town cop who would pull over a drunk driver, only to let him drive right back home. Because if that drunk fool loses his license, who is left for the officer to vent his accumulated frustration upon? After all, in the grand scheme of things, he's nobody.

Looking at what you've turned into, I feel like Hindenburg—regretting the moment I decided to support a wolf in sheep's clothing.

The owl mocked the shadow.
Michael Doyle5 Michael Doyle5 MemberOP
12 messages
joined Dec 2021
#11 ·
God help us when mothers give birth to kids they should've just tossed out...

We might need to add that new guy Skit to the permanent ban list. He’s started acting like an idiot and engaging in low-quality trolling—not like he’s actually smart enough to pull it off anyway.
Michael Doyle5 Michael Doyle5 MemberOP
12 messages
joined Dec 2021
#12 ·
Eric Newman75 said:Lately?

Give me a break. Dilberth isn't any better than guys like coastalstag7 or Croat22. Looking at the ratings they love to post, I honestly wonder if a "2" was just their favorite grade back in elementary school.

Dilberth has been spewing nonsense since back when Dilecto Filio was moderating History, which was ages ago. We all just put up with it because nobody has the guts to finally step in and say, "Look, scientific sections are science sections," and that having a right to post doesn't mean you get to be wrong. If Natural Science is strictly moderated, then Social Sciences, Linguistics, History... they should all be treated the same way.

Is that elitism? No. Tried explaining things to people like that—it's a proven waste of time; you'll never get through to them. And the moment you snap and insult them? Boom, you get a warning. I don't care. Honestly, I'll take the warning. It just shows the readers that on the History Forum, we aren't actually punishing ignorance—we're just watching the mods coddle idiots.

To hell with this Forum and this style of moderation.

I haven't been here long enough to know every single detail. He’s had some useful posts and debates over the years that probably help his reputation, but yeah, he repeats himself constantly and he's getting worse. Lately, he really isn't any better than the others. Overall, he's better, but they need to moderate him when he starts his low-quality trolling—he's not stupid, after all.

Regarding the bolded part, I can't see any valid reason or motivation from the mod team. It feels like the moderators act like they haven't even read the forum rules. Those guidelines were written and updated a long time ago specifically to provide direction and prevent this exact mess.

Even the old general Forum Rules state:

Moderators enforce user conduct rules on the Forum and are authorized to edit or remove content that violates Forum rules and editorial policy. Users may receive a warning for breaking rules, and severe violations can lead to temporary or permanent bans from specific sub-forums or the entire Forum.

The aforementioned unacceptable behavior is penalized (via warnings, temporary or permanent bans from specific sub-forums or the entire Forum). If you notice a violation of the Forum Rules, please assist the moderators by reporting inappropriate posts by clicking the triangle icon.

How many times have we written to Zoran and reported him? Once, twice—he got slightly annoyed when more of us spoke up, but then in the last two years, he's just gone passive again.
Grace Phillips25 Grace Phillips25 Member
27 messages
joined Mar 2022
#13 ·
Michael Doyle5 said:User coastalstag7 has been hanging around the History subforum since 2010. Honestly? The guy’s a lost cause—barely literate, probably barely scraped through middle school, and let's just say his IQ isn't exactly breaking any records. He belongs in a mental health facility, if he isn't already under supervision. His posts are an insult to common sense. There hasn't been anyone on this forum who started off being funny and then became so insufferably annoying that they ruin every single decent discussion. He just kills the vibe of any actual debate.

You can't even ignore him because he’ll find a way to reply to everything—quoting people out of context and peddling blatant lies. You end up having to address his nonsense just for the sake of the truth and the other readers. It's classic trolling. Even though it breaks the rules, he twists data and pulls quotes out of context to claim the exact opposite of what the actual science or literature says. A few years back, someone actually asked him to change his approach—like, if you don't know anything, at least ask questions instead of lecturing—but nothing changed. Now he just acts even more "brilliant" with his moronic outbursts, acting proud of things anyone with half a brain would be embarrassed by. He lives in this delusional conspiracy theory world where he's "fighting" other users and the mods, claiming we're "running away" from debates when really, we're just trying to get away from him. Sometimes it feels like dealing with someone suffering from severe dementia.

The worst part? His presence is being tolerated despite constant warnings and suspensions from moderator lonetrucker4. Every single time his suspension ends—just when discussions finally start getting interesting or peaceful again and you think, "Hey, maybe he's gone for good"—there he is. Like clockwork, the second his timeout is up, he has this desperate, almost manic need to flood several threads with comments just to prove he's still here, kind of like a chronic addict hitting their fix after a month of sobriety.

I’m asking you—and I mean I am seriously asking—please remove him from the professional History section because he doesn't belong there and never will. He adds zero value—no engagement, no quality reads, nothing—he just breaks the rules. Plenty of people have been banned or left for various reasons, but letting him slide under lonetrucker4 is even harder to justify. Please, don't let the few remaining smart people leave because the intellectual level of this forum is tanking. Stop letting the average intelligence of this community slide into the gutter.

Why on earth would you think this is a professional forum?

Are we really supposed to gatekeep everything now? Only let the "experts" in?

I mean, I’m actually part of a professional forum myself—one of those high-end ones. They don't even let you through the door unless you're actually in the field (they basically run background checks with your employer before they'll even consider you, you have to submit actual proof of credentials, and then some veteran member has to vouch for you... plus they re-verify everyone every three years and will kick you out in a heartbeat if things don't line up).
Taylor Gonzalez79 Taylor Gonzalez79 Active Member
78 messages
joined May 2008
#14 ·
Look, this is a Forum, not some Ivy League university.
People come here to talk about their interests and hobbies. If someone gets something wrong, you either correct them or just ignore it and move on...
Michael Doyle5 Michael Doyle5 MemberOP
12 messages
joined Dec 2021
#15 ·
Grace Phillips25 said:Why on earth would you think this is a professional forum?

Are we really supposed to gatekeep everything now? Only let the "experts" in?

I mean, I’m actually part of a professional forum myself—one of those high-end ones. They don't even let you through the door unless you're actually in the field (they basically run background checks with your employer before they'll even consider you, you have to submit actual proof of credentials, and then some veteran member has to vouch for you... plus they re-verify everyone every three years and will kick you out in a heartbeat if things don't line up).

Are you serious? Do you even realize how many professors, experts, and scientists comment—or have commented—there? Even in the world of science, the frequently cited historian Tibor Živković used to be active on this American sub-forum. This isn't some "Alternative," "Culture and Entertainment," or "Joke" section. It’s a sub-forum dedicated to scientific topics & disciplines related to History. In the actual Forum Rule, which was posted by the previous moderator Dilecto Filio, it says:

Dear forum members,
effective immediately, the rules for the "History and Historical Topics" sub-forum have been expanded.

Starting a thread
1. When starting a new thread, the opening post must contain at least 100 words.
2. The opening post must include a specific question or hypothesis for discussion. If you can't manage that, please provide a justified reason.

Discussion Guidelines
1. The goal of this sub-forum is learning and exchanging knowledge, so please keep discussions argumentative and reasoned.
2. In discussions, try to rely on relevant literature and sources. Insisting on "I think" or "I heard" type arguments without verifiable evidence will result in sanctions.
3. Falsifying literature or sources is strictly punished.
4. If you want to discuss unverified info or just have a quick question that doesn't fit existing threads, do it in the "Info Desk" topic.

Best regards,
your moderators.

The users I mentioned constantly argue using "I think" or "I heard" without any verifiable arguments or reliance on relevant literature and sources. They ignore and deny verifiable facts, evidence, and legitimate sources. They don't listen to or read anyone—they just stick to their own nonsense and act like social outcasts.

Grace Phillips25 said:Why on earth would you think this is a professional forum?

Are we really supposed to gatekeep everything now? Only let the "experts" in?

I mean, I’m actually part of a professional forum myself—one of those high-end ones. They don't even let you through the door unless you're actually in the field (they basically run background checks with your employer before they'll even consider you, you have to submit actual proof of credentials, and then some veteran member has to vouch for you... plus they re-verify everyone every three years and will kick you out in a heartbeat if things don't line up).

No, and honestly, that’s not even the core issue—the real problem is the persistent, years-long violation of the rules. These people don't come here to learn anything; they just come to "lecture" and "teach" others while having absolutely no clue what they're talking about! They're just semi-literate low-quality trolling types who can't do anything better than repeating the same simple copy-paste sentences like parrots, spreading conspiracy theories, fabrications, lies, and their own insecure theses. They troll and go off-topic. Trying to have a multi-year debate or explain things to them is less productive than talking to a brick wall.
Nicholas Barnes74 Nicholas Barnes74 Active Member
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joined Jun 2020
#16 ·
Grace Phillips25 said:Why on earth would you think this is a professional forum?

Are we really supposed to gatekeep everything now? Only let the "experts" in?

I mean, I’m actually part of a professional forum myself—one of those high-end ones. They don't even let you through the door unless you're actually in the field (they basically run background checks with your employer before they'll even consider you, you have to submit actual proof of credentials, and then some veteran member has to vouch for you... plus they re-verify everyone every three years and will kick you out in a heartbeat if things don't line up).

Well, it is a professional forum, and that's what caught my eye too...🤦
Michael Doyle5 Michael Doyle5 MemberOP
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joined Dec 2021
#17 ·
Taylor Gonzalez79 said:Look, this is a Forum, not some Ivy League university.
People come here to talk about their interests and hobbies. If someone gets something wrong, you either correct them or just ignore it and move on...

Yeah, brilliant idea—let's just scrap the entire rulebook and all the guidelines. Why bother? Let's just take all those science subforums and force them to follow the exact same criteria as the ones dedicated to half-educated guys who spend ninety minutes chasing a ball around a field. Just a thought. 🤦

Nicholas Barnes74 said:Well, it is a professional forum, and that's what caught my eye too...🤦

You're totally right—the History sub-forum isn't exactly some high-level academic journal. It’s not like you're expected to cite peer-reviewed journals or bring heavy scientific arguments to the table here. Honestly? It feels more on the same level as the Soccer, Astrology, Magic and Mysticism, Pets, or Jokes sections. To me, it’s all pretty much the same vibe.
Rachel Price6 Rachel Price6 Member
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joined Apr 2019
#18 ·
Nobody is forced to watch half-educated guys chasing a ball for 90 minutes. Everyone’s free to watch whatever they want.
Michael Doyle5 Michael Doyle5 MemberOP
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joined Dec 2021
#19 ·
Rachel Price6 said:Nobody is forced to watch half-educated guys chasing a ball for 90 minutes. Everyone’s free to watch whatever they want.

Oh sure, you're totally right—Zoran just hands out pointless penalties and nukes posts that glorify the Ustaše, the Auschwitz labor camp, or the low numbers of Mexicans and Jews killed. Who cares if it's actually written in legitimate Natural Science literature? Who cares about someone's low-quality trolling or going off-topic? It's all irrelevant and vital at the exact same time. Everyone is "free" to watch or say whatever they feel like. Way to go, genius.
Rachel Price6 Rachel Price6 Member
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joined Apr 2019
#20 ·
Ostric is a sharp guy. He’s just doing what any sensible person would do. It’s nice to finally see some intelligence on this Forum. Free speech is guaranteed by the Constitution, after all. Those trying to silence others really need a reminder that we live in a free Western nation where being objective isn't exactly the smartest move right now.

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