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Inner peace vs. the world: The Fight against yourself

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Samuel Price6 Samuel Price6 MemberOP
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#1 ·
There was a time when I felt like I actually had the agency to change things. To reshape the world around me. I didn't quite pull it off. Now, stepping into my 30s, the work has shifted inward... I have to change myself instead.
But there’s a certain melody to it—that sweet spot where sound meets thought—and in that rhythm, I refuse to back down...

This whole process of making peace with reality? It honestly infuriates me.
Why on earth should I be forced to bend to the circumstances we find ourselves in?
Why shouldn't I be allowed to remain an eternal rebel, provided I have a damn good reason?
Isn't it actually more soul-crushing to become compliant and apathetic than it is to stubbornly hold onto your convictions?

Who am I supposed to make amends with?
Do I reconcile with myself, or do I settle with the world?

And who is actually at fault here?
Does someone *have* to be the villain?
It’s just how it is.
I’ve never had much stomach for being herded like cattle or pushed into a mindless pack. I want to think for myself... I want what’s best for society...
But those compromises—the ones where you start accepting the very realities you used to fight tooth and nail when you were younger—that feels like a betrayal of the soul.
It’s incredibly hard to go against your own nature...

It’s a heavy weight for any man to carry mentally...
Donna White50 Donna White50 Regular
342 messages
joined Jan 2018
#2 ·
Samuel Price6 said:There was a time when I felt like I actually had the agency to change things. To reshape the world around me. I didn't quite pull it off. Now, stepping into my 30s, the work has shifted inward... I have to change myself instead.
But there’s a certain melody to it—that sweet spot where sound meets thought—and in that rhythm, I refuse to back down...

This whole process of making peace with reality? It honestly infuriates me.
Why on earth should I be forced to bend to the circumstances we find ourselves in?
Why shouldn't I be allowed to remain an eternal rebel, provided I have a damn good reason?
Isn't it actually more soul-crushing to become compliant and apathetic than it is to stubbornly hold onto your convictions?

Who am I supposed to make amends with?
Do I reconcile with myself, or do I settle with the world?

And who is actually at fault here?
Does someone *have* to be the villain?
It’s just how it is.
I’ve never had much stomach for being herded like cattle or pushed into a mindless pack. I want to think for myself... I want what’s best for society...
But those compromises—the ones where you start accepting the very realities you used to fight tooth and nail when you were younger—that feels like a betrayal of the soul.
It’s incredibly hard to go against your own nature...

It’s a heavy weight for any man to carry mentally...

Life is basically one long exercise in pivoting. Every living thing on this planet tries to adapt just to survive, and people do the same—trying to find their little niche where they can actually make an impact.
You can't run away from the world or other people, and honestly, you shouldn't try. Just learn how to take what you need while giving back enough so that everyone stays fed and nobody gets left behind.

If you only ever play by your own rules without looking around, you're just gonna end up on the fringes—unless that's where you actually feel at home and find yourself.

Either way, there's nothing special about being a sheep, because there's zero upside to it (most people are sheep anyway). The goal is to stay true to who you are while still making sure you're happy and taken care of. Usually, that means having a social life, some career success, a family, friends, and doing stuff you actually enjoy...
Life's a bitch—either figure it out or give it hell...😁
Larry Lewis Larry Lewis Regular
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joined Dec 2010
#3 ·
Samuel Price6 said:There was a time when I felt like I actually had the agency to change things. To reshape the world around me. I didn't quite pull it off. Now, stepping into my 30s, the work has shifted inward... I have to change myself instead.
But there’s a certain melody to it—that sweet spot where sound meets thought—and in that rhythm, I refuse to back down...

This whole process of making peace with reality? It honestly infuriates me.
Why on earth should I be forced to bend to the circumstances we find ourselves in?
Why shouldn't I be allowed to remain an eternal rebel, provided I have a damn good reason?
Isn't it actually more soul-crushing to become compliant and apathetic than it is to stubbornly hold onto your convictions?

Who am I supposed to make amends with?
Do I reconcile with myself, or do I settle with the world?

And who is actually at fault here?
Does someone *have* to be the villain?
It’s just how it is.
I’ve never had much stomach for being herded like cattle or pushed into a mindless pack. I want to think for myself... I want what’s best for society...
But those compromises—the ones where you start accepting the very realities you used to fight tooth and nail when you were younger—that feels like a betrayal of the soul.
It’s incredibly hard to go against your own nature...

It’s a heavy weight for any man to carry mentally...

Not too long ago, I was struggling with the exact same thing—accepting reality was hard enough, but accepting myself was even harder.
I’ve always felt this friction with the world—and frankly, I still do—but
I accept it now, and I don't believe for a second that there's anything fundamentally broken about me because of it.

For starters, it’s enough to just be decent while you're part of the crowd—even if it's just
three people grabbing coffee at a diner in Chicago or somewhere similar—just keeping those regular connections
with your acquaintances.

But tell me, why wouldn't you want to be a rebel?

There isn't some universal manual written down anywhere telling you how to live your life in the end.

I know you're wrestling with it right now, but once you decide to forge your own path,
you'll feel better, take my word for it. There will be hurdles, and there will be pain, and plenty of failures and moments of self-doubt
because that’s just the way it goes for everyone.

Nick isn't always happy, nor is he always sad.

You've got two healthy hands, two working legs, and a sound mind—be grateful for that,
because the universe doesn't owe anyone a damn thing.
Samuel Price6 Samuel Price6 MemberOP
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#4 ·
I can't help but wonder how much we've missed the mark with the way we're raised here—always putting the collective or the group above everything else, while completely ignoring the development of the individual.
Where did we lose our way, whether in the classroom or at home? It feels like we've been conditioned to suppress that natural, human instinct to push back against things that just don't make sense.

A little rebellion is actually healthy. Provided, of course, you have the right vocabulary to back it up...
Carl Rivera43 Carl Rivera43 Veteran
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joined Mar 2016
#5 ·
Hmm, I think it’s actually better to call it a Fight for yourself rather than a fight against yourself. Why? Well, because doing something for your own sake feels right, even if it seems a bit blurry or messy at first {even if it feels like you're working against your own interests for a moment}.

I guess you could compare this to the world of art. I remember reading somewhere that Bryan Adams said something along these lines: "When I was younger, I had more inspiration for songwriting and singing. You could really feel that youth; I was much more aware of what didn't fit." His point was basically that, and honestly, it makes perfect sense.

As for upbringing, man, that's such a massive topic. It gets pretty awkward when parents just can't seem to tap into what their kids actually want to do.
It reminds me of those old-school comments like, "Don't play with him, he's no good," and stuff like that.

If people aren't given enough chances or support—if they get criticized too harshly—then it's no wonder we see higher levels of anxiety and depression. Finding your inner peace becomes a real uphill battle. And without that peace, it's tough to focus {and stay present} or feel any kind of genuine sense of community.

Knowledge is power, sure, but sometimes your thought process just hits a wall. When that happens, it's hard to figure out the purpose behind your choices or how to Fight for things that actually help build your character. Having the grit to stand by yourself in those moments is everything.
restlesstiger49 restlesstiger49 Regular
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joined Jul 2012
#6 ·
Samuel Price6 said:There was a time when I felt like I actually had the agency to change things. To reshape the world around me. I didn't quite pull it off. Now, stepping into my 30s, the work has shifted inward... I have to change myself instead.
But there’s a certain melody to it—that sweet spot where sound meets thought—and in that rhythm, I refuse to back down...

This whole process of making peace with reality? It honestly infuriates me.
Why on earth should I be forced to bend to the circumstances we find ourselves in?
Why shouldn't I be allowed to remain an eternal rebel, provided I have a damn good reason?
Isn't it actually more soul-crushing to become compliant and apathetic than it is to stubbornly hold onto your convictions?

Who am I supposed to make amends with?
Do I reconcile with myself, or do I settle with the world?

And who is actually at fault here?
Does someone *have* to be the villain?
It’s just how it is.
I’ve never had much stomach for being herded like cattle or pushed into a mindless pack. I want to think for myself... I want what’s best for society...
But those compromises—the ones where you start accepting the very realities you used to fight tooth and nail when you were younger—that feels like a betrayal of the soul.
It’s incredibly hard to go against your own nature...

It’s a heavy weight for any man to carry mentally...

Is it a necessity or a choice?

Samuel Price6 said:There was a time when I felt like I actually had the agency to change things. To reshape the world around me. I didn't quite pull it off. Now, stepping into my 30s, the work has shifted inward... I have to change myself instead.
But there’s a certain melody to it—that sweet spot where sound meets thought—and in that rhythm, I refuse to back down...

This whole process of making peace with reality? It honestly infuriates me.
Why on earth should I be forced to bend to the circumstances we find ourselves in?
Why shouldn't I be allowed to remain an eternal rebel, provided I have a damn good reason?
Isn't it actually more soul-crushing to become compliant and apathetic than it is to stubbornly hold onto your convictions?

Who am I supposed to make amends with?
Do I reconcile with myself, or do I settle with the world?

And who is actually at fault here?
Does someone *have* to be the villain?
It’s just how it is.
I’ve never had much stomach for being herded like cattle or pushed into a mindless pack. I want to think for myself... I want what’s best for society...
But those compromises—the ones where you start accepting the very realities you used to fight tooth and nail when you were younger—that feels like a betrayal of the soul.
It’s incredibly hard to go against your own nature...

It’s a heavy weight for any man to carry mentally...

To make life a little easier for yourself. That’s usually the whole point of adapting, isn't it?

Samuel Price6 said:There was a time when I felt like I actually had the agency to change things. To reshape the world around me. I didn't quite pull it off. Now, stepping into my 30s, the work has shifted inward... I have to change myself instead.
But there’s a certain melody to it—that sweet spot where sound meets thought—and in that rhythm, I refuse to back down...

This whole process of making peace with reality? It honestly infuriates me.
Why on earth should I be forced to bend to the circumstances we find ourselves in?
Why shouldn't I be allowed to remain an eternal rebel, provided I have a damn good reason?
Isn't it actually more soul-crushing to become compliant and apathetic than it is to stubbornly hold onto your convictions?

Who am I supposed to make amends with?
Do I reconcile with myself, or do I settle with the world?

And who is actually at fault here?
Does someone *have* to be the villain?
It’s just how it is.
I’ve never had much stomach for being herded like cattle or pushed into a mindless pack. I want to think for myself... I want what’s best for society...
But those compromises—the ones where you start accepting the very realities you used to fight tooth and nail when you were younger—that feels like a betrayal of the soul.
It’s incredibly hard to go against your own nature...

It’s a heavy weight for any man to carry mentally...

It’s either one extreme or the other, right? Either you're Marlon Brando or you're sick; either it's black or white... but the world is far too colorful for that. Ditch that binary way of looking at things.
You can certainly fight for your beliefs, just don't do it at your own expense or someone else's.

Samuel Price6 said:There was a time when I felt like I actually had the agency to change things. To reshape the world around me. I didn't quite pull it off. Now, stepping into my 30s, the work has shifted inward... I have to change myself instead.
But there’s a certain melody to it—that sweet spot where sound meets thought—and in that rhythm, I refuse to back down...

This whole process of making peace with reality? It honestly infuriates me.
Why on earth should I be forced to bend to the circumstances we find ourselves in?
Why shouldn't I be allowed to remain an eternal rebel, provided I have a damn good reason?
Isn't it actually more soul-crushing to become compliant and apathetic than it is to stubbornly hold onto your convictions?

Who am I supposed to make amends with?
Do I reconcile with myself, or do I settle with the world?

And who is actually at fault here?
Does someone *have* to be the villain?
It’s just how it is.
I’ve never had much stomach for being herded like cattle or pushed into a mindless pack. I want to think for myself... I want what’s best for society...
But those compromises—the ones where you start accepting the very realities you used to fight tooth and nail when you were younger—that feels like a betrayal of the soul.
It’s incredibly hard to go against your own nature...

It’s a heavy weight for any man to carry mentally...

With yourself, obviously... ☕
Get your own house in order first.

Samuel Price6 said:There was a time when I felt like I actually had the agency to change things. To reshape the world around me. I didn't quite pull it off. Now, stepping into my 30s, the work has shifted inward... I have to change myself instead.
But there’s a certain melody to it—that sweet spot where sound meets thought—and in that rhythm, I refuse to back down...

This whole process of making peace with reality? It honestly infuriates me.
Why on earth should I be forced to bend to the circumstances we find ourselves in?
Why shouldn't I be allowed to remain an eternal rebel, provided I have a damn good reason?
Isn't it actually more soul-crushing to become compliant and apathetic than it is to stubbornly hold onto your convictions?

Who am I supposed to make amends with?
Do I reconcile with myself, or do I settle with the world?

And who is actually at fault here?
Does someone *have* to be the villain?
It’s just how it is.
I’ve never had much stomach for being herded like cattle or pushed into a mindless pack. I want to think for myself... I want what’s best for society...
But those compromises—the ones where you start accepting the very realities you used to fight tooth and nail when you were younger—that feels like a betrayal of the soul.
It’s incredibly hard to go against your own nature...

It’s a heavy weight for any man to carry mentally...

You’re the one driving yourself toward your goals. Who exactly is forcing you somewhere against your will? Why are you letting them?

Samuel Price6 said:There was a time when I felt like I actually had the agency to change things. To reshape the world around me. I didn't quite pull it off. Now, stepping into my 30s, the work has shifted inward... I have to change myself instead.
But there’s a certain melody to it—that sweet spot where sound meets thought—and in that rhythm, I refuse to back down...

This whole process of making peace with reality? It honestly infuriates me.
Why on earth should I be forced to bend to the circumstances we find ourselves in?
Why shouldn't I be allowed to remain an eternal rebel, provided I have a damn good reason?
Isn't it actually more soul-crushing to become compliant and apathetic than it is to stubbornly hold onto your convictions?

Who am I supposed to make amends with?
Do I reconcile with myself, or do I settle with the world?

And who is actually at fault here?
Does someone *have* to be the villain?
It’s just how it is.
I’ve never had much stomach for being herded like cattle or pushed into a mindless pack. I want to think for myself... I want what’s best for society...
But those compromises—the ones where you start accepting the very realities you used to fight tooth and nail when you were younger—that feels like a betrayal of the soul.
It’s incredibly hard to go against your own nature...

It’s a heavy weight for any man to carry mentally...

I mean, we all grow up eventually, don't we?

Samuel Price6 said:There was a time when I felt like I actually had the agency to change things. To reshape the world around me. I didn't quite pull it off. Now, stepping into my 30s, the work has shifted inward... I have to change myself instead.
But there’s a certain melody to it—that sweet spot where sound meets thought—and in that rhythm, I refuse to back down...

This whole process of making peace with reality? It honestly infuriates me.
Why on earth should I be forced to bend to the circumstances we find ourselves in?
Why shouldn't I be allowed to remain an eternal rebel, provided I have a damn good reason?
Isn't it actually more soul-crushing to become compliant and apathetic than it is to stubbornly hold onto your convictions?

Who am I supposed to make amends with?
Do I reconcile with myself, or do I settle with the world?

And who is actually at fault here?
Does someone *have* to be the villain?
It’s just how it is.
I’ve never had much stomach for being herded like cattle or pushed into a mindless pack. I want to think for myself... I want what’s best for society...
But those compromises—the ones where you start accepting the very realities you used to fight tooth and nail when you were younger—that feels like a betrayal of the soul.
It’s incredibly hard to go against your own nature...

It’s a heavy weight for any man to carry mentally...

If you don't take a moment to really think it through, you might end up fighting yourself no matter which way you turn.
Larry Lewis Larry Lewis Regular
819 messages
joined Dec 2010
#7 ·
Carl Rivera43 said:Hmm, I think it’s actually better to call it a Fight for yourself rather than a fight against yourself. Why? Well, because doing something for your own sake feels right, even if it seems a bit blurry or messy at first {even if it feels like you're working against your own interests for a moment}.

I guess you could compare this to the world of art. I remember reading somewhere that Bryan Adams said something along these lines: "When I was younger, I had more inspiration for songwriting and singing. You could really feel that youth; I was much more aware of what didn't fit." His point was basically that, and honestly, it makes perfect sense.

As for upbringing, man, that's such a massive topic. It gets pretty awkward when parents just can't seem to tap into what their kids actually want to do.
It reminds me of those old-school comments like, "Don't play with him, he's no good," and stuff like that.

If people aren't given enough chances or support—if they get criticized too harshly—then it's no wonder we see higher levels of anxiety and depression. Finding your inner peace becomes a real uphill battle. And without that peace, it's tough to focus {and stay present} or feel any kind of genuine sense of community.

Knowledge is power, sure, but sometimes your thought process just hits a wall. When that happens, it's hard to figure out the purpose behind your choices or how to Fight for things that actually help build your character. Having the grit to stand by yourself in those moments is everything.

You’ve missed the point entirely—it’s quite simple, really. A man fights his own internal battles for reasons known only to himself, and frankly, that's none of our business. Have you never experienced that? That feeling of being locked in a room with your own psyche, wrestling with your own shadow? I mean, have you ever truly fought with yourself—literally, internally—or am I just shouting into the void here?

Parents are supposed to be there to instill some semblance of moral fiber in you—assuming, of course, that luck is actually on your side—and to offer a bit of guidance when the world starts getting messy. It’s a heavy lift, really. I remember my own old man used to lecture me for hours about "character" while we were sitting in a diner outside of Chicago, back when I thought he was just being difficult rather than trying to build a foundation... but looking back, that's the idea, isn't it? To provide that compass. Of course, much like any other attempt at social engineering, the success rate is wildly unpredictable.
It all boils down to how much I can actually afford—and, if the stars align and you happen to be playing your cards right regarding how I operate—how much I can truly grasp your logic. Honestly, once you hit a certain stage in life, there really should be an emphasis on carving out your own independence. It’s about self-sufficiency, isn't it? One shouldn't be leaning on others indefinitely—not when maturity dictates otherwise.
And let’s not forget the necessity of financial independence—truly—because that is the only real path toward any kind of healthy personal growth. Without it, you're just reacting to the whims of others, aren't you? It's hard to find your soul when you're constantly checking your bank balance before you even think about who you want to become.

Look, there’s such a thing as constructive criticism—it actually exists, believe it or not—but the real trick is having the discernment to actually recognize it when it hits you. You can't just lump everything together. Besides, you were being rather vague there—you didn't specify whose support you were actually talking about.
I find myself wondering—if you’ll indulge my curiosity for a moment—exactly which corner of this chaotic existence you’re aiming for when you speak of such "approximately" honest companionship? It’s a curious phrase, isn't it? Almost poetic in its ambiguity. I suppose we all drift through life searching for some semblance of connection, though most people settle for the shallowest versions of it—the kind of superficial nodding and smiling you see at a corporate mixer in Chicago or a stuffy gala in New York. But you... you seem to be hinting at something more nuanced. Is it a pursuit of intellectual synergy, or perhaps just a way to buffer the crushing weight of reality? I’ve spent far too many years observing the ebb and flow of human interaction—much like watching the slow, predictable grind of a Midwestern freight train—to believe that true honesty is ever truly "approximate." It either hits the mark or it misses entirely. So, please, do elaborate—what specific arena of life are you targeting with this peculiar brand of sincerity?

Knowledge, if you ask me—and I suppose that’s a bit presumptuous—isn't some sort of ultimate power. No, that's far too grand a notion for such a messy reality. It’s more like a tool. A hammer, perhaps, or a scalpel—something you pick up, use to fix a leak or cut through a problem, and then set back down when the job is done. People tend to romanticize "knowing things" as if possessing information grants you some sort of divine authority over the universe, but they forget that a tool is useless if you don't have the hands to wield it—or the sense to know when to put it away. I remember an old professor of mine back in Chicago—brilliant man, though he couldn't tell a joke to save his life—who used to say that a library is just a warehouse of blunt instruments until someone actually starts working. Knowledge is only as good as the person holding it.
A total collapse of one's cognitive processes—of the very machinery of thought itself—is actually a perfectly natural occurrence. Honestly, when it happens, you don't need to go looking for fixes or chasing some grand solution. You just... let it be. It’s like when the power grid in Chicago decides to give up the ghost during a blizzard—you aren't going to fix the infrastructure by staring at the dark sky; you just sit there and wait for the lights to come back on. Sometimes, the mind just needs to hit the reset button, and trying to force logic onto a broken system is a fool's errand. Truly, nothing more is required than the silence that follows the crash.
Making a decision—real, decisive action—is an entirely different beast when you actually have a solid foundation beneath your feet. I’m talking about a core philosophy, a way of thinking that doesn't just shift every time the wind blows or some trendy new guru starts shouting on social media. It’s about having those bedrock principles in place—that internal compass that keeps you from spinning in circles. I remember back in my early twenties, living in a cramped apartment in Chicago, trying to navigate what I thought was a "career"—it was more like a series of panicked pivots, really—I had no North Star. No framework. Every choice felt like a coin toss because I hadn't decided who I actually was or what I stood for. I was just reacting to the noise. It’s exhausting, isn't it? To live life in a constant state of reaction rather than intention? When you finally cultivate a structured mindset—a set of non-negotiables—deciding becomes less about agonizing over every minute detail and more about checking if a path aligns with your fundamental values. If the foundation is cracked, the house falls down. If your logic is flimsy, your decisions will be too. You need that structural integrity in your head before you can ever hope to stand firm in the world.
It’s a question that keeps me up at night—the kind of existential pondering that makes you stare at the ceiling until the sun starts peeking through the blinds—wondering which forces we want actually stepping in to lend us a hand through this chaotic life, and more importantly, which ones we intend to spend our entire existence refining. I mean, think about it—we are all constantly navigating this messy, unpredictable landscape, and we have to decide: who do we let into our inner circle to help carry the load? Is it certain mentors, specific partners, or perhaps even just a set of core values that act as a compass when everything goes sideways? I’ve spent far too many years trying to lean on the wrong pillars—people who were more interested in their own shadows than in helping me find the light—only to realize that true support is a rare currency indeed. But then there is the second part of the equation—the "upgrading" part. Which aspects of ourselves, or perhaps which skills or passions, are we committed to polishing until they shine? It shouldn't just be about survival; it should be about constant evolution. For me, it’s always been about that relentless pursuit of understanding—trying to build upon my own perspectives, much like how one might obsessively tinker with a vintage car engine in a garage in Detroit, hoping to squeeze out just a little more power every single year. We choose our allies, yes, but we also choose our projects—and the greatest project we will ever manage is the person staring back at us in the mirror.

Having a backbone is all well and good—truly, it’s a necessity if you want to survive the daily grind without losing your soul—but even the most resolute among us needs to know when to step back and just... breathe. I mean, there's a fine line between being principled and being absolutely, stubbornly inflexible, isn't there? I remember this one time back in Chicago—years ago, mind you—when I refused to budge on a minor point during a meeting at a local firm, thinking I was standing my ground like a hero, only to realize I'd simply exhausted everyone around me for no real gain. It’s exhausting, really. To be constantly "on," constantly braced for impact... it wears a person down. You have to give yourself some breathing room, otherwise, you're just a statue waiting to crack.

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