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Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde or just a difficult personality?

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neonmason86 neonmason86 MemberOP
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#1 ·
I’m talking about someone incredibly dear to me. At first glance, I’d describe her as brilliant, kind-hearted, selfless, and witty... A constant fountain of great, offbeat humor, useful info, and unwavering support whenever someone she cares about is in trouble.
However, after several "outbursts" where this same person turns hyper-critical—transforming into a malicious creature whose curses would shame even a dark warlock (or some old witch from a horror movie)—and unleashing aggression without any regard for time, place, or target, I have to conclude there's an issue.
And there's an issue for those of us who choose to stay in her life, too.
Lately, these periods of tantrums have become so frequent that we just don't know what to expect anymore.
The strange thing is, once the rage subsides, she reverts back into that sweet, caring woman.
Since I don't give up on the people I love easily, no matter how much this feels like a "take it or leave it" situation, I really want to help her.
When I suggest seeing a professional, her reaction is hit or miss. Sometimes she’s inclined to go, consult someone, and start therapy; other times, she insists nothing is wrong and claims the world around her is simply at fault.
There are moments when you can sense her actually relishing the reaction of a hurt friend or family member... Only to immediately offer them their last dollar or find any way possible to assist them.
She has already put herself and those close to her in physical danger on several occasions.
I usually consider myself a decent strategist, but I'm completely stumped here... I have no idea how to convince her to seek help.
Or... maybe I'm wrong and this isn't a disorder or an illness at all, but just a very difficult personality.
Any advice or shared experiences would be appreciated.
Taylor Diaz2 Taylor Diaz2 Newcomer
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#2 ·
It could be hormonal—I’ve seen it happen before. Honestly, though, I’m pretty skeptical about hormone therapy, especially during pregnancy since it can mess with the fetus.

As for the double life thing, maybe antidepressants or psychotherapy could help. I’m no expert, mind you—just speaking from my own experience dealing with depression, which can definitely trigger that kind of unbearable behavior.
Donna White50 Donna White50 Regular
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#3 ·
Maybe do a little reading up on bipolar disorder...
If it’s actually dragging down someone's quality of life, they really ought to look into getting some treatment...
goldengull28 goldengull28 Member
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#4 ·
Look, maybe start by actually talking to your family doctor and getting some professional advice instead of just playing doctor and trying to diagnose yourself when you have no clue what you're doing.
Andrew Doyle Andrew Doyle Regular
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#5 ·
neonmason86 said:I’m talking about someone incredibly dear to me. At first glance, I’d describe her as brilliant, kind-hearted, selfless, and witty... A constant fountain of great, offbeat humor, useful info, and unwavering support whenever someone she cares about is in trouble.
However, after several "outbursts" where this same person turns hyper-critical—transforming into a malicious creature whose curses would shame even a dark warlock (or some old witch from a horror movie)—and unleashing aggression without any regard for time, place, or target, I have to conclude there's an issue.
And there's an issue for those of us who choose to stay in her life, too.
Lately, these periods of tantrums have become so frequent that we just don't know what to expect anymore.
The strange thing is, once the rage subsides, she reverts back into that sweet, caring woman.
Since I don't give up on the people I love easily, no matter how much this feels like a "take it or leave it" situation, I really want to help her.
When I suggest seeing a professional, her reaction is hit or miss. Sometimes she’s inclined to go, consult someone, and start therapy; other times, she insists nothing is wrong and claims the world around her is simply at fault.
There are moments when you can sense her actually relishing the reaction of a hurt friend or family member... Only to immediately offer them their last dollar or find any way possible to assist them.
She has already put herself and those close to her in physical danger on several occasions.
I usually consider myself a decent strategist, but I'm completely stumped here... I have no idea how to convince her to seek help.
Or... maybe I'm wrong and this isn't a disorder or an illness at all, but just a very difficult personality.
Any advice or shared experiences would be appreciated.

If this weren't about a woman, I would be absolutely certain I was talking about my ex-husband.
For years now, the intensity of this toxic, unwanted behavior has been spiraling out of control, getting progressively worse and more difficult to deal with every single day.
Look, I loved that man with everything I had. Because of that, I was more than willing to go through hell and back for him—I would have climbed every mountain and sought out any kind of help, no matter how extreme, just to make things work.
Back in his teens, he was slapped with a borderline personality disorder diagnosis, but honestly? He saw right through it. He came to his own conclusion that the label was completely off the mark and decided, quite frankly, that he didn't need any kind of professional intervention or help.
Unfortunately, he was in desperate need of professional intervention. I was willing to put up with just about anything, really—I had a high tolerance for his nonsense—but after spending an entire decade by his side, I finally hit my breaking point. I reached my absolute limit. When that happened, I walked away, because things had turned incredibly, deeply ugly. I won't go into the specifics here, though; that’s a conversation better suited for discussions regarding domestic abuse.

It honestly pains me to see that even now, well into his thirties, he still hasn't managed to pull together a single functional, healthy relationship. It’s incredibly frustrating to witness because it feels like absolutely nothing has changed. He’s stuck in the exact same patterns, refusing to evolve, and it's just pathetic at this point.

Honestly, I’m at a loss for what to advise you. I’ve been down this road before, and it’s exhausting. When I finally managed to get my ex to see a psychiatrist—which took two separate appointments just to get through the door—things turned ugly fast. He became incredibly aggressive, and he eventually just walked out on the treatment entirely. I mean, he would literally storm out of the room right in the middle of a session. It was volatile and completely unproductive.

Look, I get it. It’s an incredibly heavy burden to carry, and I know how much this is hitting you right now. When you truly care about someone—when you genuinely want nothing but the best for them—but they’ve decided to go to war against themselves and everyone else, it becomes an exhausting cycle. You end up constantly walking on eggshells just to navigate a simple conversation, all while watching them struggle. It’s a relentless, painful process of trying to reach someone who has built their own fortress of resistance.

I honestly hope you have better luck than I did trying to convince her that she actually needs some professional help.
neonmason86 neonmason86 MemberOP
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#6 ·
goldengull28 said:Look, maybe start by actually talking to your family doctor and getting some professional advice instead of just playing doctor and trying to diagnose yourself when you have no clue what you're doing.

I just had to get that off my chest... It's been weighing on me for a while now.
The easy way out would be to cut ties or just limit contact, but I don't think she deserves that.
A family doctor will probably want to examine her and actually talk to her, which sounds like an incredibly difficult task.
neonmason86 neonmason86 MemberOP
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Andrew Doyle said:If this weren't about a woman, I would be absolutely certain I was talking about my ex-husband.
For years now, the intensity of this toxic, unwanted behavior has been spiraling out of control, getting progressively worse and more difficult to deal with every single day.
Look, I loved that man with everything I had. Because of that, I was more than willing to go through hell and back for him—I would have climbed every mountain and sought out any kind of help, no matter how extreme, just to make things work.
Back in his teens, he was slapped with a borderline personality disorder diagnosis, but honestly? He saw right through it. He came to his own conclusion that the label was completely off the mark and decided, quite frankly, that he didn't need any kind of professional intervention or help.
Unfortunately, he was in desperate need of professional intervention. I was willing to put up with just about anything, really—I had a high tolerance for his nonsense—but after spending an entire decade by his side, I finally hit my breaking point. I reached my absolute limit. When that happened, I walked away, because things had turned incredibly, deeply ugly. I won't go into the specifics here, though; that’s a conversation better suited for discussions regarding domestic abuse.

It honestly pains me to see that even now, well into his thirties, he still hasn't managed to pull together a single functional, healthy relationship. It’s incredibly frustrating to witness because it feels like absolutely nothing has changed. He’s stuck in the exact same patterns, refusing to evolve, and it's just pathetic at this point.

Honestly, I’m at a loss for what to advise you. I’ve been down this road before, and it’s exhausting. When I finally managed to get my ex to see a psychiatrist—which took two separate appointments just to get through the door—things turned ugly fast. He became incredibly aggressive, and he eventually just walked out on the treatment entirely. I mean, he would literally storm out of the room right in the middle of a session. It was volatile and completely unproductive.

Look, I get it. It’s an incredibly heavy burden to carry, and I know how much this is hitting you right now. When you truly care about someone—when you genuinely want nothing but the best for them—but they’ve decided to go to war against themselves and everyone else, it becomes an exhausting cycle. You end up constantly walking on eggshells just to navigate a simple conversation, all while watching them struggle. It’s a relentless, painful process of trying to reach someone who has built their own fortress of resistance.

I honestly hope you have better luck than I did trying to convince her that she actually needs some professional help.

This is tough to read. You really had to survive this, push through...
My ex also had mental health issues (now that he's fortunately started therapy, he keeps the diagnosis a secret... I assume what it is, I just hope they pull him out of it before he hurts himself).
It just drains a person...
And then you end up facing a whole different set of problems... During those moments of "clarity" (I don't know how else to describe it), the person admits they have a problem and that they aren't happy.
In her own words—she isn't living a quality life, just some kind of half-life.
goldengull28 goldengull28 Member
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#8 ·
neonmason86 said:This is tough to read. You really had to survive this, push through...
My ex also had mental health issues (now that he's fortunately started therapy, he keeps the diagnosis a secret... I assume what it is, I just hope they pull him out of it before he hurts himself).
It just drains a person...
And then you end up facing a whole different set of problems... During those moments of "clarity" (I don't know how else to describe it), the person admits they have a problem and that they aren't happy.
In her own words—she isn't living a quality life, just some kind of half-life.

If you wouldn't mind clarifying things, or if anyone else witnessed this, maybe shoot me a DM. Since when does being unhappy or feeling like you aren't living a fulfilling life automatically mean someone has a mental disorder? Is a psychiatrist or some meds just going to magically fix everything? I mean, I don't even know. Maybe the person in your story actually has a perfectly fine life and there's no reason to be miserable, but they're just manufacturing drama where none exists. Or maybe those "explosive" reactions toward you and the rest of the family are coming from a valid place, and you guys are just choosing to ignore the root cause because it's easier that way.
neonmason86 neonmason86 MemberOP
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#9 ·
If we were family, I’d be part of the problem myself. That’s where all the trouble starts. Honestly, she just doesn't need to pick up the phone anymore.
It started over nothing—some kid tossing a wrapper on the street while walking with his parents—but it escalated into a physical fight filled with profanity (which I won't repeat here because it was truly vile).
Then there was that blowout in the grocery store; the lady hit her with a purse and then offered this half-hearted apology... only to call her an "idiotic cow" ten minutes later, wondering why she even bothered.
My concern stems from fear that the next few parents might just walk away... or that she won't be able to keep her husband from wanting to walk out on her (which, obviously, I don't condone), or that she'll run right into some aggressive stranger while screaming about her political views...
She doesn't have to be a pushover, and her opinions are still her own, but there is a way to express yourself without being reckless.
When you care about people, you want what's best for them.
This isn't even close to being okay—it's just dangerous.
Taylor Diaz2 Taylor Diaz2 Newcomer
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#10 ·
Check out the movie Divine Secrets of the
Ya-Ya Sisterhood. I still lean toward the idea that it’s just hormonal imbalances triggering aggression—plus some sort of underlying depression that leads to hypocrisy. But then again, what actually counts as "normal"? Maybe people like that are closer to our true nature than the rest of us—the quiet little sheep.
goldengull28 goldengull28 Member
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#11 ·
neonmason86 said:If we were family, I’d be part of the problem myself. That’s where all the trouble starts. Honestly, she just doesn't need to pick up the phone anymore.
It started over nothing—some kid tossing a wrapper on the street while walking with his parents—but it escalated into a physical fight filled with profanity (which I won't repeat here because it was truly vile).
Then there was that blowout in the grocery store; the lady hit her with a purse and then offered this half-hearted apology... only to call her an "idiotic cow" ten minutes later, wondering why she even bothered.
My concern stems from fear that the next few parents might just walk away... or that she won't be able to keep her husband from wanting to walk out on her (which, obviously, I don't condone), or that she'll run right into some aggressive stranger while screaming about her political views...
She doesn't have to be a pushover, and her opinions are still her own, but there is a way to express yourself without being reckless.
When you care about people, you want what's best for them.
This isn't even close to being okay—it's just dangerous.

Maybe try forcing her into a hospital. It’s not pretty, but it's better than this. Since she's an adult, under certain circumstances, it might actually be possible to commit her to psych... Better than letting her hurt someone.
Taylor Diaz2 Taylor Diaz2 Newcomer
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#12 ·
goldengull28 said:Maybe try forcing her into a hospital. It’s not pretty, but it's better than this. Since she's an adult, under certain circumstances, it might actually be possible to commit her to psych... Better than letting her hurt someone.

I don't see it that way—unless we're talking actual physical violence. And I mean direct bodily harm, not just breaking furniture or playing the intimidation game.
goldengull28 goldengull28 Member
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#13 ·
Taylor Diaz2 said:I don't see it that way—unless we're talking actual physical violence. And I mean direct bodily harm, not just breaking furniture or playing the intimidation game.

Oh yeah, because clearly we should just sit around and wait for someone to get their head chopped off before we do anything.
Taylor Diaz2 Taylor Diaz2 Newcomer
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#14 ·
goldengull28 said:Oh yeah, because clearly we should just sit around and wait for someone to get their head chopped off before we do anything.

Are you speaking from experience with people like that—or just guessing? Because I’m speaking from experience.

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