Lone Wolves

Dagi, I guess you didn't quite grasp what we're actually discussing here...

Maria Robinson2 said:Dagi, I guess you didn't quite grasp what we're actually discussing here...

oh...

sigh...

Maria Robinson2 said:In other words, that is exactly what I mean by 'group energy.'
Look, you can call it whatever you want—we're talking about the same thing, I guess. You get me?

..and hopefully we're on the same page 🙂

Pozitiva really nailed that whole "lone wolf" description.
To me, being a loner isn't even about actually being alone—it's more about being the kind of person who actually uses their own head instead of just following the crowd or blindly swallowing whatever society tries to feed us... I think Dagi touched on something pretty close to that earlier, 👍
They’re those strong, wise individuals who usually end up feeling isolated simply because they see things differently than everyone else.

slycyclist26 said:..and hopefully we're on the same page 🙂

I think we might be on the same page here.

But as for everyone else—no, we aren't. People love to drone on about these "strong, wise individuals," if that's what they want to call them—and honestly, I'd love to ask them to actually prove where this supposed "wisdom" comes from.
I suspect if anyone actually sat down to audit their wisdom, it would evaporate pretty much instantly.
(I am, quite frankly, 200% certain of this based on pure intuition—regardless of whether my prediction bothers them or not)

A true lone wolf usually carries this sharp intelligence and a really gut-level intuition about things... if we're talking about people who just isolate themselves just for the sake of being different, then we're really just looking at an ego trip—it has nothing to do with actual wisdom, let alone any of those "lone wolf" qualities people romanticize.
There aren't many people who actually fit this category, though I swear, everyone seems to want to be one.

slycyclist26 said:I think they’re actually more connected than most people realize 🙂
Solitude is such a vital thing, yet it feels like it's slipping through our fingers more and more in this modern world.
You come into this life alone, and you leave it alone.

Honestly, my favorite way to be is just hanging out with my cats... there isn't any sadness or anxiety they can't chase away 🙂

👍
Domesticated cats—not the wild ones, obviously, but the ones that actually live alongside us—are honestly one of the greatest gifts this planet has to offer.
🙂

And I suppose I mentioned this before—when people go on about wolves, if you actually listen to what they’re saying, you realize they’re really just talking about cats. I guess.

slycyclist26 said:Well, obviously the web isn't a physical crowd or a physical presence...
That post wasn't even meant for you or anyone else here 😉

So, apologies 🙂

But they'll come in handy for clarity if someone asks about it later. 😉

slycyclist26 said:I'm 33 years old🙂

You can't live in a bubble, that's true. In certain areas, you're forced to play a part, like in a corporate office setting.
A lot of it depends on how old you are, too. What gets to me most is those masks people wear constantly... probably one of the main reasons I've mostly stepped back.

Well, you aren't exactly a kid anymore either—not in terms of the stuff you're digging into. Society hasn't quite managed to mold you yet or slot you into a specific role. 😉

For instance, back in my day, I used to think it was like some spiritual awakening—you know, thinking "I'll get there eventually"—but nope. It wasn't until I hit 35 that I actually started gaining some real wisdom and truly seeing people and the world for what they are. Now I'm 40, and I'm still not even close to who I want to be... though, honestly, I'm not even sure what that is yet. Just a hunch.

In the corporate world (which, let's face it, is how we survive), you have to play the game and even manipulate things a bit. That's just reality. It puts me in this weird spot regarding power versus staying away from it all... am I supposed to be a monk living in isolation, or some kind of wizard? It's the eternal dilemma for anyone trying to be wise.

Maria Robinson2 said:In most cases, that’s exactly how it works—the collective energy of a group is stronger, which is why an individual can be so easily swayed by the crowd.
It reminds me of... walking into a room and sensing the vibe before you even step inside. Does a single person notice that shift right at the threshold? Maybe. But if they've already crossed that line and stayed in the room, does it mean they can just back out the moment they hit the doorway?
For some people, their own energy is strong enough to hold its own against a crowd—though, honestly, those are things you just learn to handle as you get older. There aren't any universities that teach you this sort of thing. I suppose I think, know, believe so.

Yeah, I'm with you on that—it’s not even about being under someone's thumb, it's more about being isolated. Or honestly? Just straight-up cast out. It happens way too often with people like us who have our own specific interests and ways of doing things. You could try forcing your way into the group or acting all extroverted to make it work, but honestly, that usually just backfires and makes them hate you even more.
And then you just have to "lower" yourself to their level—you know, the whole mediocrity thing. 😁 Politics, the economy, just venting about those little daily struggles—or even that whole scene where people just love hearing themselves talk, chasing clout by acting like they’re the center of attention...

You just start asking about freedom, the meaning of life, God... man, that’s already way too deep for some people.

Thomas Nelson25 said:Well, you aren't exactly a kid anymore either—not in terms of the stuff you're digging into. Society hasn't quite managed to mold you yet or slot you into a specific role. 😉

For instance, back in my day, I used to think it was like some spiritual awakening—you know, thinking "I'll get there eventually"—but nope. It wasn't until I hit 35 that I actually started gaining some real wisdom and truly seeing people and the world for what they are. Now I'm 40, and I'm still not even close to who I want to be... though, honestly, I'm not even sure what that is yet. Just a hunch.

In the corporate world (which, let's face it, is how we survive), you have to play the game and even manipulate things a bit. That's just reality. It puts me in this weird spot regarding power versus staying away from it all... am I supposed to be a monk living in isolation, or some kind of wizard? It's the eternal dilemma for anyone trying to be wise.

Real art is finding that middle ground 🙂

Thomas Nelson25 said:Yeah, I'm with you on that—it’s not even about being under someone's thumb, it's more about being isolated. Or honestly? Just straight-up cast out. It happens way too often with people like us who have our own specific interests and ways of doing things. You could try forcing your way into the group or acting all extroverted to make it work, but honestly, that usually just backfires and makes them hate you even more.
And then you just have to "lower" yourself to their level—you know, the whole mediocrity thing. 😁 Politics, the economy, just venting about those little daily struggles—or even that whole scene where people just love hearing themselves talk, chasing clout by acting like they’re the center of attention...

You just start asking about freedom, the meaning of life, God... man, that’s already way too deep for some people.

The line between love and hate is incredibly thin—I guess you could say it’s razor-thin. People claim that's exactly where envy and jealousy take root.

Everything you tell them—it’s just fuel for their fire, I guess—because they’re perpetually hungry for it. And the stories don't even necessarily need to be about you—you're just the narrator, a mere mouthpiece, maybe.
It’s almost as if I’m not actually a lone wolf—though, I suppose, I certainly know the feeling.

slycyclist26 said:Real art is finding that middle ground 🙂

being in this world without being fully consumed by it... yeah, that's what art is all about.

Dana Davis5 said:Pozitiva really nailed that whole "lone wolf" description.
To me, being a loner isn't even about actually being alone—it's more about being the kind of person who actually uses their own head instead of just following the crowd or blindly swallowing whatever society tries to feed us... I think Dagi touched on something pretty close to that earlier, 👍
They’re those strong, wise individuals who usually end up feeling isolated simply because they see things differently than everyone else.

Yeah... it probably comes down to the fact that people with even a little bit of authenticity realize, maybe quite consciously, that they won't ever truly fit into a group. Plus, if you have a rich inner world—you know, a world you actually interact with sometimes—you kind of need that specific slice of time where you can just be with yourself.

And like the post mentioned, these types of people can be perfectly social and communicative—they aren't defined by being isolated from society like some "lone wolf," nor does anyone else define them that way—they define themselves through that self-awareness.

Maria Robinson2 said:The line between love and hate is incredibly thin—I guess you could say it’s razor-thin. People claim that's exactly where envy and jealousy take root.

Everything you tell them—it’s just fuel for their fire, I guess—because they’re perpetually hungry for it. And the stories don't even necessarily need to be about you—you're just the narrator, a mere mouthpiece, maybe.
It’s almost as if I’m not actually a lone wolf—though, I suppose, I certainly know the feeling.

Sadly, there are barely any sane people left out there.
If you're actually being yourself, they can't stand you. If you're a pushover, they "love" you out of pity.

What you're saying is basically wisdom delivered in the third person—kind of like a preacher or something. Let 'em think what they want. (Though some manipulators will catch on and try to claim you're just as bad as them)

Thomas Nelson25 said:Sadly, there are barely any sane people left out there.
If you're actually being yourself, they can't stand you. If you're a pushover, they "love" you out of pity.

What you're saying is basically wisdom delivered in the third person—kind of like a preacher or something. Let 'em think what they want. (Though some manipulators will catch on and try to claim you're just as bad as them)

Didn't you call me a drunkard because of this specific post? Well played. 😉

Anyway, people say what they want, though I doubt it matters much; my family calls me the 'grumpy prophet' because when I speak, I don't sugarcoat things—which, I guess, is a bit much for them, given how used they are to my intuition...

Even lone wolves have their moments of weakness, I suppose. Sometimes, even if nobody says anything, you can see it in their expression—you just know something is off. And then there are the cowards who lack nerve, only to eventually find a moment where they suddenly act out and leave everyone speechless—I guess that's courage for them.
So, let people believe whatever they want about one another...

Maria Robinson2 said:Didn't you call me a drunkard because of this specific post? Well played. 😉

Anyway, people say what they want, though I doubt it matters much; my family calls me the 'grumpy prophet' because when I speak, I don't sugarcoat things—which, I guess, is a bit much for them, given how used they are to my intuition...

Even lone wolves have their moments of weakness, I suppose. Sometimes, even if nobody says anything, you can see it in their expression—you just know something is off. And then there are the cowards who lack nerve, only to eventually find a moment where they suddenly act out and leave everyone speechless—I guess that's courage for them.
So, let people believe whatever they want about one another...

Family fallout is way more complicated than regular drama—even more than losing a friend... just saying. It definitely fits that old saying about how a "prophet is never respected in his own hometown."🤔

Thomas Nelson25 said:Family fallout is way more complicated than regular drama—even more than losing a friend... just saying. It definitely fits that old saying about how a "prophet is never respected in his own hometown."🤔

I assume you're referring to those families who know they ought to actually love one another properly, yet somehow manage to do it half-heartedly—or just poorly, really... It seems to really bother the outsiders, too; once they look things up online, the whole family ends up with yet another headache because suddenly, nobody's listening to them, seeing them, or even acknowledging their existence anymore.
Well, what can you do? I guess everyone hits a wall eventually—hopefully, things improve.