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casualbear99 casualbear99 Newcomer
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#41 ·
Daniel Alvarez7 said:People don't want to hear about depression. Either they don't get it and think it's somehow contagious, or they're struggling themselves and refuse to listen because they haven't faced their own reality yet—or they're already so deep in the trenches that listening to someone else is just too exhausting.
When it reaches a chronic stage, reaching any kind of breakthrough is monumentally harder. That's because these individuals have spent far too much of their lives locked in a fight against depression, and that's a 24/7 war.
You lose your energy, your strength, and your will. And then every little thing—from the smallest annoyance (like getting the wrong item at Target or forgetting where you put your keys) to the massive life crises—becomes an endless drain. For a depressed person, it's like trying to squeeze atoms of strength out of a vacuum, when they barely have enough left for themselves, let alone for a spouse or children. That's why these people need so much rest, yet they wake up feeling even more exhausted; it's a relentless struggle from dawn until dusk. Then, to top it all off, you're hit with that crushing guilt because you know you aren't being the perfect parent, neighbor, or partner.
Depression is essentially designed to suck the life right out of you.
From what I can see of my brother, he stays constantly busy. Working the farm, helping neighbors, tinkering in the garage.
Maybe work serves as a mental reprieve. A form of therapy. Once you push past that initial fatigue and physically exhaust yourself, you might finally experience actual, peaceful sleep for the first time in ages...
But at the end of the day, everyone knows what works best for them...

It’s the truth. People—and society at large—just don't have an appetite for anything depressing. You can see it clearly in Hollywood; those massive blockbusters that dominate the box office almost always lean into that predictable, feel-good happy ending because that's what the masses crave.

It’s usually because people like that have spent far too much of their lives locked in a constant struggle with depression—and let’s be honest, that’s a battle fought 24/7 without a single moment of respite.
Then you lose it—that vital spark, the stamina, the sheer will to keep going. And when that happens, everything else starts to pile up. It’s not just the big stuff, either; it’s the trivial, everyday annoyances—like grabbing the wrong brand of milk at Target or realizing you’ve misplaced your keys again. For someone struggling with depression, those minor hiccups aren't just inconveniences; they are massive, soul-crushing drains on an already empty reservoir. You’re essentially trying to squeeze blood from a stone, attempting to find strength you simply don't have left, let alone enough to show up for a spouse or your kids. That’s why people in this state need endless rest, yet even then, they wake up feeling more exhausted than when they went to bed—because life becomes this relentless, grinding battle from sunrise to sunset. To top it all off, there’s that suffocating layer of guilt. You’re painfully aware that you aren't exactly being the "ideal" parent, neighbor, or partner... and that realization only makes the weight heavier.
Depression isn't just some clinical malfunction—it feels more like a calculated mechanism designed to drain your very life force. It’s an exhausting, parasitic state that siphons off your vitality until there’s nothing left but a hollow shell.

There isn't just one single way to experience depression—it’s far more nuanced than that. What you're describing sounds like what most people recognize as affective depression—that heavy, cloud-like state where everything feels gray and you're constantly battling a crushing sense of fatigue. But then there’s another side to it: a purely cognitive trap, where the mind spirals into negative thought patterns even without a complete emotional breakdown. In the end, though, the destination is always the same. Whether it starts with a mood or a mindset, it all funnels into the same dark territory—dissatisfaction, total inertia, and, ultimately, suicidal ideation.

It seems like my brother can’t ever truly clock out—it’s constant. Whether he’s out working the vineyard, helping out the neighbors with their projects, or hunkered down in the garage, he's always at it. He just doesn't know how to sit still.
Perhaps there’s an argument to be made that a job can actually serve as a mental reprieve—a form of therapy, if you will. Once you finally push past that initial, soul-crushing fatigue and allow yourself to become physically exhausted, you might just experience it—that first moment of true, peaceful sleep in what feels like forever.
At the end of the day, everyone knows exactly what’s best for themselves—even if the rest of us can see they're making a mistake.

I honestly think that might have been the very thing that saved him. Once you start actively avoiding the things you actually love—the passions that give you a reason to get out of bed—you lose that fundamental spark. Without that internal drive, everything else just feels like an uphill battle, and suddenly, even the most basic daily struggles start feeling completely insurmountable.

Daniel Alvarez7 said:Oh, and I completely forgot to follow up on that whole "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger" cliché...
Maybe it won't kill you—but let’s be honest, sometimes it just drains you so thoroughly that you're left with absolutely nothing for what comes next. And whether it actually grants you any wisdom? Whether it truly makes you "stronger"... I'm not so sure about that myself.🤔

I'm with you there. I only brought up that lyric to provide some much-needed context for the point I was making. 😁
Lawrence Bailey77 Lawrence Bailey77 Regular
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joined Mar 2015
#42 ·
Charles Lopez3 said:He’s gotten way too full of himself lately.

He isn't humble at all,
especially when you consider how small we all really are compared to the forces of nature.

acting like he's some kind of messiah just to show everyone what happens when someone starts believing they're the son of God😵 and a mouthpiece for "Him"🐔

It makes me feel like I'm losing my mind... honestly. We take these massacres and turn them into grand narratives about suffering and faith, essentially creating a version of hell on earth while promising that once you die, everything will be beautiful and you'll be in paradise...

... I mean... it is all so profoundly absurd that it isn't surprising people fall for it. In my view, belief itself is more of a symptom of a serious psychological disorder than anything remotely natural.🙂

- That is simply my opinion, and I suppose I have as much right to it as anyone else.☕

P.S. Even though so many people feel entitled to scribble out their own "divine" laws and invent doctrines🐔 in a way that is unserious, irresponsible, inhumane, and fundamentally unnatural.🙄
Charles Lopez3 Charles Lopez3 Active Member
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#43 ·
Lawrence Bailey77 said:acting like he's some kind of messiah just to show everyone what happens when someone starts believing they're the son of God😵 and a mouthpiece for "Him"🐔

It makes me feel like I'm losing my mind... honestly. We take these massacres and turn them into grand narratives about suffering and faith, essentially creating a version of hell on earth while promising that once you die, everything will be beautiful and you'll be in paradise...

... I mean... it is all so profoundly absurd that it isn't surprising people fall for it. In my view, belief itself is more of a symptom of a serious psychological disorder than anything remotely natural.🙂

- That is simply my opinion, and I suppose I have as much right to it as anyone else.☕

P.S. Even though so many people feel entitled to scribble out their own "divine" laws and invent doctrines🐔 in a way that is unserious, irresponsible, inhumane, and fundamentally unnatural.🙄

😁

Look, if you're gonna try and play philosopher,
you actually need to have some real knowledge under your belt:

Imagine if the government asked the big shots at the Federal Reserve
--the guys who basically control all the cash back then--
whether they should crucify some random nobody
or go with an honest guy like Jesus.
Well, they picked Jesus.

Sound familiar?
Lawrence Bailey77 Lawrence Bailey77 Regular
302 messages
joined Mar 2015
#44 ·
Charles Lopez3 said:😁

Look, if you're gonna try and play philosopher,
you actually need to have some real knowledge under your belt:

Imagine if the government asked the big shots at the Federal Reserve
--the guys who basically control all the cash back then--
whether they should crucify some random nobody
or go with an honest guy like Jesus.
Well, they picked Jesus.

Sound familiar?

Not really... back then, I was practically in another galaxy entirely. Though, I suppose I am somewhat acquainted with the legend of Santa Claus.👍
Sean Murphy6 Sean Murphy6 MemberOP
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joined Nov 2015
#45 ·
Charles Lopez3 said:Don't overthink it too much.
Gotta make sure we don't blow a fuse here ☕

They really have outgrown this stage long ago.
Kate Palmer53 Kate Palmer53 Newcomer
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joined Aug 2015
#46 ·
Nakamai, you seriously need to find yourself a man, and fast.

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