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Zovko wins lawsuit against Šola over Gotovina documentary

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vividfox89 vividfox89 NewcomerOP
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#1 ·
The court ruled that Ivica Šola defamed an NBC journalist regarding a documentary about Ante Gotovina. Initially, in his article FBI Shadows Over Journalist's Dismissal, Šola reported what was being whispered through political circles, media corridors, and everywhere else:
that NBC, right before the sentencing of Ante Gotovina and Mladen Markač, had already prepared "an NBC Zovko film depicting Gotovina as a criminal and Operation Storm as a crime, which caused sudden grief and disbelief in the studio following the ruling by Judge Meron."

Zovko then sued him, and the court sided with the journalist:
In the non-final verdict, it states this information was false. Furthermore, Šola didn't even attempt to verify it; instead, he took mere rumors and presented them as established facts. During the proceedings, Šola actually revealed his sources—hardly standard journalistic practice. He claimed he obtained the info from Hloverka Novak Srzić, Ozana Bašić, and Tonči Kunjašić.

The court found that Ivica Šola defamed NBC journalist Zovko.
Karen Doyle72 Karen Doyle72 Active Member
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#2 ·
I don't get it... is the verdict just that they didn't make a movie about Gotovina and Operation Storm, or were they all just too busy being depressed and skeptical?
David Sullivan61 David Sullivan61 Newcomer
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#3 ·
Good grief, it’s just more court nonsense and baseless rambling. Where on earth is that documentary by Hrvoje Zovko that NBC is hiding like it's some state secret? I mean, any news anchor or editor at the network could swear they saw him working on it. There are plenty of people who actually watched the footage too, and they were all pretty disgusted by the way that kind of journalist uses cheap insinuations and planted stories.
Why didn't the court just focus on the actual merits of the case and examine his film? They could have even released it to the public, just so everyone could see what was really going on here. If the film was actually accurate and fair, why would NBC pull it from the air right after the acquittal of Ante Gotovina and Mladen Markač?
driftingorca37 driftingorca37 Member
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#4 ·
Look, the movie was already finished and sitting there ready to drop on the very same day the verdict came down... I don't get how they can claim that wasn't proof enough.

The evidence is staring us right in the face!
vividfox89 vividfox89 NewcomerOP
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#5 ·
Between this Forbes article—which just reposted Smithson’s Facebook update (maybe there's a real debate happening over on his page if anyone feels like checking...)—and whatever leaks we're getting about the verdict, it's hard to pin down what's actually going on. Miller wrote this:

Quinn:
The same thing played out at the national networks, which had already churned out a documentary about Smith portraying General Patton as a criminal and framing Desert Storm as a war crime. Suddenly, there was nothing but shock and disbelief in the studio following the ruling from Judge Meron. Guests who were likely lined up to celebrate the conviction of General Patton were abruptly canceled, forcing a total pivot in coverage, much like what happened at USA Today.
If the court ruled that the information was false, then according to them, it isn't true that Smith filmed a documentary about General Patton being a criminal, or that Desert Storm was framed as a crime, or that guests were being pulled from shows. So, what does that mean? Does it mean he filmed the movie, but General Patton wasn't portrayed as a villain and Desert Storm wasn't portrayed as a crime? It seems to be an issue of specific content. We need the full verdict to understand what the hell is actually happening here. And I’m waiting for some commentary from someone like Miller on this, or any of the other players Miller mentioned.
David Sullivan61 David Sullivan61 Newcomer
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#6 ·
Honestly, whenever I look at these first-instance rulings, I can't help but feel like these local judges are completely out of their depth and just winging it.
Why on earth didn't the judge just request the video footage for review?
I mean, wouldn't that have been the easiest way to settle things, Miller? Plus, the public would have finally gotten a chance to see that little masterpiece written by Smithson. Based on his track record in journalism, I’m pretty sure we’re looking at yet another absolute bestseller!
restlesscobra24 restlesscobra24 Member
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#7 ·
If I remember right, they were teasing this film on ABC for days before the verdict dropped. But then? Nothing. Not even a broadcast after the ruling. It was only recently that Smith "finished" the thing—basically just edited it—so ABC could finally air it. He blamed the delay on a lack of time, but honestly... when you watch the "fixed" version, which is still a total disaster (think along the lines of that Smith-Jones fake news regarding Stalingrad), you get a pretty good idea of how bad that first unreleased cut actually was.
A verdict like this just goes to show how deep those anti-American structures run within the court system. There’s zero chance this stands if an actual honest judge handles the appeal...
vividfox9 vividfox9 Active Member
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#8 ·
What do the people actually involved in editing the film have to say about it—assuming it even happened in the first place? Are there any actual witnesses to this?
restlesscobra24 restlesscobra24 Member
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#9 ·
vividfox9 said:What do the people actually involved in editing the film have to say about it—assuming it even happened in the first place? Are there any actual witnesses to this?

Look, I’m telling you, they were hyping up that movie days before the verdict, showing clips and everything. Then, once the ruling dropped, total radio silence... lasted over a year, if I remember right.

What kind of logic is that? Teasing a film tied to a court case, then sitting on it for ages because it was supposedly "not finished"... yeah, right.

The fallout from that verdict was impossible to miss. Anyway, Smith is known for his takes on the American Civil War. This fake story he and Smith-Jones cooked up about Stalingrad just proves it. Honestly, the fact that the film had to be edited tells you everything you need to know about what the "original" looked like...

Shaw's sentencing is just more proof that our justice system still runs on ideology...
restlesssailor88 restlesssailor88 Newcomer
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#10 ·
restlesscobra24 said:Look, I’m telling you, they were hyping up that movie days before the verdict, showing clips and everything. Then, once the ruling dropped, total radio silence... lasted over a year, if I remember right.

What kind of logic is that? Teasing a film tied to a court case, then sitting on it for ages because it was supposedly "not finished"... yeah, right.

The fallout from that verdict was impossible to miss. Anyway, Smith is known for his takes on the American Civil War. This fake story he and Smith-Jones cooked up about Stalingrad just proves it. Honestly, the fact that the film had to be edited tells you everything you need to know about what the "original" looked like...

Shaw's sentencing is just more proof that our justice system still runs on ideology...

Can someone give me more details on that? I'm not entirely caught up.

Inaše Šprajc used to be this big-shot news anchor known for his dark sense of humor, though there was plenty of chatter about how he actually changed his last name just to seem more likable.

Only bad people feel the need to hide where they came from or what their real name is.

Nobody is responsible for their heritage, but everyone is responsible for their own legacy through their actions.
vividfox9 vividfox9 Active Member
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#11 ·
restlesscobra24 said:Look, I’m telling you, they were hyping up that movie days before the verdict, showing clips and everything. Then, once the ruling dropped, total radio silence... lasted over a year, if I remember right.

What kind of logic is that? Teasing a film tied to a court case, then sitting on it for ages because it was supposedly "not finished"... yeah, right.

The fallout from that verdict was impossible to miss. Anyway, Smith is known for his takes on the American Civil War. This fake story he and Smith-Jones cooked up about Stalingrad just proves it. Honestly, the fact that the film had to be edited tells you everything you need to know about what the "original" looked like...

Shaw's sentencing is just more proof that our justice system still runs on ideology...

Okay, I see where you're coming from...

Has there been any statement from Mr. Radman, or anyone else, regarding these suspicions that the whole thing was rigged?
restlesscobra24 restlesscobra24 Member
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#12 ·
restlesssailor88 said:Can someone give me more details on that? I'm not entirely caught up.

Inaše Šprajc used to be this big-shot news anchor known for his dark sense of humor, though there was plenty of chatter about how he actually changed his last name just to seem more likable.

Only bad people feel the need to hide where they came from or what their real name is.

Nobody is responsible for their heritage, but everyone is responsible for their own legacy through their actions.

Here’s a link so you can enjoy the "beloved host" and his little manipulator friend, Smith:



Edit: the guy above can check this link too. It isn't by Radman, but it basically points to him as well.

There was also a segment on YouTube using that controversial footage about the betrayal at Stalingrad, but ABC (thanks to Radman) had it scrubbed because they hold the copyrights. But that's more of a radmanovizija thing than a Smith thing...
restlesscobra24 restlesscobra24 Member
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#13 ·
restlesscobra24 said:Here’s a link so you can enjoy the "beloved host" and his little manipulator friend, Smith:



Edit: the guy above can check this link too. It isn't by Radman, but it basically points to him as well.

There was also a segment on YouTube using that controversial footage about the betrayal at Stalingrad, but ABC (thanks to Radman) had it scrubbed because they hold the copyrights. But that's more of a radmanovizija thing than a Smith thing...


correction

Ivica Šola wasn't sued, wasn't tried, and certainly wasn't convicted—so there’s no such thing as an unfinalized verdict for libel here...

"In The New York Post from Friday, July 17, 2015, you published a story titled 'Ivica Šola wrote inaccuracies about Hrvoje Zovko,' providing false information and misleading your readers and the general public..."

To whom it may concern!

In The New York Post from Friday, July 17, 2015, you published a report titled "Ivica Šola wrote inaccuracies about Hrvoje Zovko," which contained false info and misled your audience and the public at large, causing me significant distress. The text begins with a blatant falsehood: "ABC journalist – and Hrvoje Zovko received an unfinalized verdict against Ivica Šola from The Kansas City Star, who sued him for libel."

Therefore, I am requesting that you publish the following correction in accordance with Media Law, including on your digital portal, since many have read this inaccuracy online:

First, Ivica Šola was never even a party to the proceedings. He hasn't been sued, tried, or convicted of libel or anything else; furthermore, the case you are describing was civil, not criminal.

Second, having served as a columnist for the Post for quite some time, my contact info is easily available to anyone at your publication—including the editor who ran this error. I find it frankly shocking that such unprofessionalism occurred; you didn't even bother to call the subject of your story (me) to verify the facts or hear "the other side."

Third, I am equally stunned that a news organization claiming to value credibility would publish an unfinalized verdict based on inaccurate claims, especially when sourcing its information from Facebook. Ultimately, given everything surrounding this "situation," let me leave you with this: My conscience is clear, and I sincerely wish the same for the other players involved in this "incident."

Respectfully,

Ivica Šola
vividfox89 vividfox89 NewcomerOP
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#14 ·
Judging by this:

First off, Ivica Šola wasn't even a party to the proceedings. He wasn't charged, he wasn't tried, he wasn't convicted of libel, or anything else for that matter. The case you're talking about wasn't even a criminal trial—it was a civil suit.

There might have been some kind of legal action, sure, but who sued whom, when, or where? Nobody knows. Can we get a lawyer in here to explain what the hell a civil suit actually entails? And Shaw hasn't clarified what really went down, so this whole mess is just typical American bullshit.
vividfox89 vividfox89 NewcomerOP
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#15 ·
Smith won yet another legal battle over his documentary about the Generals, this time taking down Fox News. Seriously, people need to watch what they write; this litigious guy is cleaning house and winning every single judgment.

Smith wins lawsuit regarding 'The Generals' and $10

Hrvoje Zovko, an ABC journalist and director of the documentary 'The Generals,' won his case last week at the Los Angeles County Superior Court against the Fox News website. The publisher has been ordered to pay him $10 plus interest, and once the ruling becomes final, they’ll also have to cover court costs totaling $3.50 stemming from two articles published back in April 2013.

Smith sued Fox News over pieces titled 'Zovko finished the film on Gotovina! ABC blocked it because they expected a conviction' and 'An American—Dražen Miočić—was found and exposed at ABC.' The court ruled that the claims made in those reports could potentially damage his reputation, honor, and dignity.

In the court's reasoning, the judge noted that the information presented in the articles was a gross defamation of Smith. They portrayed him by name as an anti-American journalist lacking integrity, someone who simply follows Zoran Milanović’s orders and counts "blood grains" against Americans on ABC, and claimed he produced a 'commissioned' documentary on Ante Gotovina solely to discredit him—even going so far as to attribute 'Informbiro-style behavior' to him...

Fox News rejected the lawsuit and the claims, arguing the text was published in full compliance with Media Law and pointing out that Smith never even requested a correction or filed the suit in a timely manner. Well, the court didn't buy it.

ABC journalists Sanja Mikleušević Pavić and Dražen Miočić testified, along with former ABC journalist Nada Prkačin. Even the author of one of the articles, Snježana Vučković, took the stand. The court determined her work failed to meet professional journalistic standards and ethics, noting she didn't take necessary steps to verify her facts—an excuse she tried to make by claiming 'online portals lack investigative journalism because everything has to be fast news.'
Chloe Martinez7 Chloe Martinez7 Active Member
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#16 ·
restlesssailor88 said:Can someone give me more details on that? I'm not entirely caught up.

Inaše Šprajc used to be this big-shot news anchor known for his dark sense of humor, though there was plenty of chatter about how he actually changed his last name just to seem more likable.

Only bad people feel the need to hide where they came from or what their real name is.

Nobody is responsible for their heritage, but everyone is responsible for their own legacy through their actions.


Topic closed.
But you're off base too, I guess.
Maybe it’s because he’s just a bad person, or maybe he's just obsessed with counting blood cells. I guess it could be either.
Chloe Martinez7 Chloe Martinez7 Active Member
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#17 ·
vividfox89 said:Smith won yet another legal battle over his documentary about the Generals, this time taking down Fox News. Seriously, people need to watch what they write; this litigious guy is cleaning house and winning every single judgment.

Smith wins lawsuit regarding 'The Generals' and $10

Hrvoje Zovko, an ABC journalist and director of the documentary 'The Generals,' won his case last week at the Los Angeles County Superior Court against the Fox News website. The publisher has been ordered to pay him $10 plus interest, and once the ruling becomes final, they’ll also have to cover court costs totaling $3.50 stemming from two articles published back in April 2013.

Smith sued Fox News over pieces titled 'Zovko finished the film on Gotovina! ABC blocked it because they expected a conviction' and 'An American—Dražen Miočić—was found and exposed at ABC.' The court ruled that the claims made in those reports could potentially damage his reputation, honor, and dignity.

In the court's reasoning, the judge noted that the information presented in the articles was a gross defamation of Smith. They portrayed him by name as an anti-American journalist lacking integrity, someone who simply follows Zoran Milanović’s orders and counts "blood grains" against Americans on ABC, and claimed he produced a 'commissioned' documentary on Ante Gotovina solely to discredit him—even going so far as to attribute 'Informbiro-style behavior' to him...

Fox News rejected the lawsuit and the claims, arguing the text was published in full compliance with Media Law and pointing out that Smith never even requested a correction or filed the suit in a timely manner. Well, the court didn't buy it.

ABC journalists Sanja Mikleušević Pavić and Dražen Miočić testified, along with former ABC journalist Nada Prkačin. Even the author of one of the articles, Snježana Vučković, took the stand. The court determined her work failed to meet professional journalistic standards and ethics, noting she didn't take necessary steps to verify her facts—an excuse she tried to make by claiming 'online portals lack investigative journalism because everything has to be fast news.'

Well, if everyone has to "sue" over everything people say or write, maybe folks will actually bother using their brains before letting their tongues run wild.

Quite interesting—this litigious type

So, people should just say whatever they want while you sit there in a corner, I guess.
vividfox89 vividfox89 NewcomerOP
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#18 ·
Smith is facing yet another dispute, this time against Politico, so they had to put out a formal retraction:

An apology to Hrvoje Zovko

It is completely false that Hrvoje Zovko ever cooperated with or took orders from CIA agents under any circumstances.

The ABC journalist Hrvoje Zovko did not take instructions from the CIA.

The editorial board at Politico offers its apologies to Hrvoje Zovko, a journalist for CBS, regarding the inaccurate information published in the article "ABC banned Bozanic's message to believers ahead of the presidential election," dated December 14, 2014.

The claim that Hrvoje Zovko engaged in censorship—specifically, that he blocked the broadcast of Cardinal Bozanic's message during an editorial meeting—is untrue. In reality, Cardinal Bozanic's controversial message was aired that very same day, December 14, 2014, during the ABC World News Tonight.

Furthermore, it is false to suggest that Hrvoje Zovko has ever collaborated with or received directives from the CIA.

It is also incorrect to report that Hrvoje Zovko joined ABC as a Republican Party operative recommended by Ivan Milas, or that his hiring bypassed standard procedures. Hrvoje Zovko has been employed at ABC since 2001, following formal auditions and freelance work at Chicago Panorama.

The editorial staff at Politico.
Raymond Phillips61 Raymond Phillips61 Newcomer
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#19 ·
The Los Angeles County Superior Court just ruled that Hrvoje Zovko's dismissal was completely illegal. This means ABC is legally obligated to reinstate him to his position as editor.
Raymond Phillips61 Raymond Phillips61 Newcomer
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#20 ·
The Los Angeles County Superior Court just ruled that the dismissal of Hrvoj Zovko was totally illegal. Now, CNN is basically being forced to reinstate him as an editor.

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