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Scamming as a business model

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Participants Sam Ruiz60Ashley Mendoza6hollowtrucker77Andrew Barrett4Scott Rodriguez19silverviper44mellownomadJessica Torres63Benjamin Wilson4briskeagle3Charles Lopez3
Sam Ruiz60 Sam Ruiz60 MemberOP
32 messages
joined Nov 2015
#1 ·
In times as tough as these, when money is tight for everyone, you inevitably run into people who think someone is just going to hand them a gift out of the blue.
I received a flyer claiming I’d won one of the major or consolation prizes, provided I sent over my personal details.
Of course, those details can be used for any kind of marketing imaginable. And what does that actually mean? It probably means this company will send you a bill for "processing fees" or force you to buy something just to claim your prize.

A sensible person looks at this and asks: first, who on earth is going to give you something for nothing these days? Out of pure charity? Is some billionaire suddenly looking to spread joy to strangers??
Second, there isn't a single mention of the official contest rules or where they can even be found. Is it an illegal sweepstakes? Apparently, they don't care.

It reminds me of those old scammers back in Little Rock—there was that clinic, though I can't quite recall their former name.

Ultimately, does a struggling family deserve to be preyed upon just because they might be lured by greed? I don't think so. They aren't thinking clearly because they're dealing with desperate financial situations, and then thieves like this come along and take their very last cent.

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There is actually some information online about these types of crooks:
Ashley Mendoza6 Ashley Mendoza6 Member
16 messages
joined Apr 2017
#2 ·
Sam Ruiz60 said:In times as tough as these, when money is tight for everyone, you inevitably run into people who think someone is just going to hand them a gift out of the blue.
I received a flyer claiming I’d won one of the major or consolation prizes, provided I sent over my personal details.
Of course, those details can be used for any kind of marketing imaginable. And what does that actually mean? It probably means this company will send you a bill for "processing fees" or force you to buy something just to claim your prize.

A sensible person looks at this and asks: first, who on earth is going to give you something for nothing these days? Out of pure charity? Is some billionaire suddenly looking to spread joy to strangers??
Second, there isn't a single mention of the official contest rules or where they can even be found. Is it an illegal sweepstakes? Apparently, they don't care.

It reminds me of those old scammers back in Little Rock—there was that clinic, though I can't quite recall their former name.

Ultimately, does a struggling family deserve to be preyed upon just because they might be lured by greed? I don't think so. They aren't thinking clearly because they're dealing with desperate financial situations, and then thieves like this come along and take their very last cent.

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There is actually some information online about these types of crooks:

Generally speaking, my wife's grandmother always goes to those dinners whenever she gets an invite. She hangs out with her crew in the afternoon, eats and drinks whatever is on the menu, and heads home without having spent a single dime, even though she worked a little bit earlier that day.😁

She tells me—she used to watch the live TV sales, and they’d even give her food and drinks while she watched... I think she once won some kind of "magic cloth" in a raffle... But she never actually bought anything.😬
She gets excited every time they organize it again. 👏

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hollowtrucker77 hollowtrucker77 Regular
681 messages
joined Nov 2007
#3 ·
Honestly, in this day and age, anyone over ten who actually falls for that nonsense deserves a serious reality check just to stop the cycle from continuing
It won't do any harm to the grandmas, though.
🙂
Andrew Barrett4 Andrew Barrett4 Active Member
163 messages
joined Jan 2018
#4 ·
Please, let’s be real. You have plenty of smart, highly educated people who fall for this kind of nonsense just because they're naive. Genuinely, hopelessly naive. And if they aren't naive, they're just greedy, which is arguably worse.

I remember when a friend told me "in confidence" about some "inheritance email" involving a transfer through JPMorgan Chase, and you could practically see the dollar signs dancing in her eyes.$

It’s supposedly professional. Even Pomona. All with degrees from state universities.

I mean, what else is there to say...
Scott Rodriguez19 Scott Rodriguez19 Active Member
79 messages
joined Feb 2018
#5 ·
Andrew Barrett4 said:Please, let’s be real. You have plenty of smart, highly educated people who fall for this kind of nonsense just because they're naive. Genuinely, hopelessly naive. And if they aren't naive, they're just greedy, which is arguably worse.

I remember when a friend told me "in confidence" about some "inheritance email" involving a transfer through JPMorgan Chase, and you could practically see the dollar signs dancing in her eyes.$

It’s supposedly professional. Even Pomona. All with degrees from state universities.

I mean, what else is there to say...

Maybe she thought it worked the same way as getting a diploma.
silverviper44 silverviper44 Active Member
51 messages
joined Jan 2013
#6 ·
I’ve received so many inheritance scam emails by now that if I actually caught every single one from Bill Gates, I could probably eat him for breakfast as an appetizer.

Just ignore them and call it a day.
mellownomad mellownomad Member
26 messages
joined Dec 2009
#7 ·
Andrew Barrett4 said:Please, let’s be real. You have plenty of smart, highly educated people who fall for this kind of nonsense just because they're naive. Genuinely, hopelessly naive. And if they aren't naive, they're just greedy, which is arguably worse.

I remember when a friend told me "in confidence" about some "inheritance email" involving a transfer through JPMorgan Chase, and you could practically see the dollar signs dancing in her eyes.$

It’s supposedly professional. Even Pomona. All with degrees from state universities.

I mean, what else is there to say...

In my view, naivety and intelligence rarely walk hand in hand.
Andrew Barrett4 Andrew Barrett4 Active Member
163 messages
joined Jan 2018
#8 ·
It would probably come down to greed, I suppose.
hollowtrucker77 hollowtrucker77 Regular
681 messages
joined Nov 2007
#9 ·
Andrew Barrett4 said:Please, let’s be real. You have plenty of smart, highly educated people who fall for this kind of nonsense just because they're naive. Genuinely, hopelessly naive. And if they aren't naive, they're just greedy, which is arguably worse.

I remember when a friend told me "in confidence" about some "inheritance email" involving a transfer through JPMorgan Chase, and you could practically see the dollar signs dancing in her eyes.$

It’s supposedly professional. Even Pomona. All with degrees from state universities.

I mean, what else is there to say...

So, if that's the case, how exactly is she considered intelligent and educated?
Jessica Torres63 Jessica Torres63 Member
19 messages
joined Mar 2018
#10 ·
Sam Ruiz60 said:In times as tough as these, when money is tight for everyone, you inevitably run into people who think someone is just going to hand them a gift out of the blue.
I received a flyer claiming I’d won one of the major or consolation prizes, provided I sent over my personal details.
Of course, those details can be used for any kind of marketing imaginable. And what does that actually mean? It probably means this company will send you a bill for "processing fees" or force you to buy something just to claim your prize.

A sensible person looks at this and asks: first, who on earth is going to give you something for nothing these days? Out of pure charity? Is some billionaire suddenly looking to spread joy to strangers??
Second, there isn't a single mention of the official contest rules or where they can even be found. Is it an illegal sweepstakes? Apparently, they don't care.

It reminds me of those old scammers back in Little Rock—there was that clinic, though I can't quite recall their former name.

Ultimately, does a struggling family deserve to be preyed upon just because they might be lured by greed? I don't think so. They aren't thinking clearly because they're dealing with desperate financial situations, and then thieves like this come along and take their very last cent.

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There is actually some information online about these types of crooks:

It might not be your exact situation, but it's definitely some illegal activity....

Looking at the guy, he's basically running a smuggling ring with cars, he's already got a bit of a network established...

He must be pulling in at least 10,000 or 15,000 bucks a year from that...

and living pretty decent...
Benjamin Wilson4 Benjamin Wilson4 Member
12 messages
joined Mar 2013
#11 ·
Any "win" from a contest you never even entered is an automatic scam. It’s basic logic: no corporation just hands out prizes for nothing without demanding a lottery fee or some coupon registration first. Even local charities don't just hand cash to the needy before they've officially signed up through their system. It is frankly fascinating how these same tired scams have been recycled since I was a kid and still somehow manage to work. It’s the exact same nonsense as those "work from home" ads promising massive salaries in San Francisco while being plastered on random billboards for passersby. ☕
Ashley Mendoza6 Ashley Mendoza6 Member
16 messages
joined Apr 2017
#12 ·
mellownomad said:In my view, naivety and intelligence rarely walk hand in hand.

Exactly. You have to realize that formal education and actual intelligence are two completely different things. In fact, they can even be mutually exclusive.

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briskeagle3 briskeagle3 Active Member
59 messages
joined Dec 2012
#13 ·
Ashley Mendoza6 said:Exactly. You have to realize that formal education and actual intelligence are two completely different things. In fact, they can even be mutually exclusive.

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Possessing information isn't the same thing as truly understanding it.

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Charles Lopez3 Charles Lopez3 Active Member
149 messages
joined Apr 2013
#14 ·
Scams masquerading as legitimate business models,
it’s basically the ultimate "innovation" from these (liberal) capitalists.
Though honestly, they've graduated to full-blown globalists by now 🙂

and in a world where basic morality and ethics have been tossed out the window,>
these guys are absolutely killing it ☕

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