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How do you defeat evil and the people behind it?

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mellowjackal2 mellowjackal2 Newcomer
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#41 ·
hollowjackal31 said:I find myself wondering about the origins of malicious people—it’s a fascinating question, isn't it...?
Is it purely genetics or the environment...?

In my view, these individuals are shaped by growing up in toxic environments—specifically within a family home where they witness malice day after day. As a result, whether consciously or unconsciously, they continue to operate this way throughout their lives unless they find a way to break the cycle. They simply end up mimicking those same behavioral patterns forever.
It essentially comes down to a home lacking empathy, warmth, and genuine love, as well as a lack of core values. Later in life, they struggle to find any other way to exist because they haven't learned how to function in a healthy environment.
swiftridge72 swiftridge72 Member
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#42 ·
It’s funny how everyone seems to just mirror all those toxic habits from their younger years, especially when you look at people who actually have a strong sense of self.
Susan Robinson3 Susan Robinson3 Member
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#43 ·
redscout46;53463569 said:
Susan Robinson3 said:At first, I honestly thought someone was just trolling, 😵 but if this is for real, then here is my take. Looking at it through a religious lens, I see it this way: If Jesus wasn't meant to fully defeat Satan in this world, then I certainly can't be expected to either. 🙂Satan exists to test me, acting as a catalyst to help me discern what is truly good. I view evil as a profound trial that everyone must endure to mature and ultimately decide which path they want to walk.

I am certain that those who commit evil eventually face the consequences; I truly believe in the idea that everything comes back around. That said, facing evil can sometimes offer a strange kind of benefit, because once a person witnesses firsthand how destructive and corrosive evil is to both the spirit and the body, they often lose the desire to ever touch it again.

As painful as it is, evil can actually serve a purpose if a person is smart enough to learn from it—to realize that after hitting their head against a wall fifty times, they should probably try a different approach. Unfortunately, people tend to be quite foolish, often repeating the same mistakes and spinning in circles until they finally break themselves.

Man, I've been burned so many times that almost nothing really gets to me anymore. 👍

Not even a little bit, especially since the people I thought were close to me turned out to be incredibly toxic. Now, I only really trust my family, a few close girlfriends, and I trust everyone else even less.

I only trust myself. 😉
Susan Robinson3 Susan Robinson3 Member
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#44 ·
mellowjackal2 said:In my view, these individuals are shaped by growing up in toxic environments—specifically within a family home where they witness malice day after day. As a result, whether consciously or unconsciously, they continue to operate this way throughout their lives unless they find a way to break the cycle. They simply end up mimicking those same behavioral patterns forever.
It essentially comes down to a home lacking empathy, warmth, and genuine love, as well as a lack of core values. Later in life, they struggle to find any other way to exist because they haven't learned how to function in a healthy environment.

I completely agree with this point👍

If the immediate circle, whether it be parents or caregivers, was incredibly cold, envious of others, pessimistic, or vindictive, there is a high probability that their child will turn out the same way, if not worse.

For instance, living here in the States, that envious mentality really bothers me; someone drives a nice car or owns a great apartment, and people immediately try to tear them down. People can be so malicious... not to mention other things, it's as if other people's happiness actually bothers them. To me, that's a perfect example of the collective malice that seems so typical among certain groups in America.
mellowjackal2 mellowjackal2 Newcomer
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#45 ·
Of course, not everyone follows suit... and I wouldn't dare suggest that people with truly strong characters tend to mimic those patterns. In my experience, it is precisely those envious detractors who possess an incredibly intense character and temperament.
It simply comes down to whether someone directs that strength toward malice, or uses it to rise above it.
Brenda Booth5 Brenda Booth5 Member
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#46 ·
Susan Robinson3 said:I completely agree with this point👍

If the immediate circle, whether it be parents or caregivers, was incredibly cold, envious of others, pessimistic, or vindictive, there is a high probability that their child will turn out the same way, if not worse.

For instance, living here in the States, that envious mentality really bothers me; someone drives a nice car or owns a great apartment, and people immediately try to tear them down. People can be so malicious... not to mention other things, it's as if other people's happiness actually bothers them. To me, that's a perfect example of the collective malice that seems so typical among certain groups in America.


This goes all the way back to the old days: small towns, white picket fences, and simple living... 🐔 It’s deeply ingrained. I suspect those who practice this kind of spite do so because they know—or perhaps they simply feel—that causing a bit of chaos produces a shock effect, much like a sudden slap in the face. They use those shocks as a distraction, a way to divert attention from their own many flaws. And so, some people just end up spinning in circles forever.
Jesse Mendoza4 Jesse Mendoza4 Member
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#47 ·
Susan Robinson3 said:I completely agree with this point👍

If the immediate circle, whether it be parents or caregivers, was incredibly cold, envious of others, pessimistic, or vindictive, there is a high probability that their child will turn out the same way, if not worse.

For instance, living here in the States, that envious mentality really bothers me; someone drives a nice car or owns a great apartment, and people immediately try to tear them down. People can be so malicious... not to mention other things, it's as if other people's happiness actually bothers them. To me, that's a perfect example of the collective malice that seems so typical among certain groups in America.

I’d have to agree, and honestly, I think we still carry that "groupthink" mentality in our heads, even with the younger crowd since they were raised by parents who feel the same way; it all goes back to that old-school collectivist upbringing where they taught us about helping each other, which is great, but also hammered home the idea that everyone has to be exactly the same. That’s where the friction comes from. We aren't living in a world anymore where everyone drives a beat-up old Ford, wears basic stuff from a local department store, and wears the same cheap shoes; nowadays, the gap is massive, ranging from driving nothing at all to cruising in a Mercedes-Benz, wearing coats from $17 a China shop to $1667 high-end designer labels, and rocking footwear from $10 budget brands to $1000 luxury names, and people definitely notice that difference.

Some folks just haven't adjusted to the reality that growing up in the same neighborhood as Ivica doesn't mean you'll end up on the exact same path; Ivica might climb the ladder, land a manager role with five times the salary, and drive a BMW, choosing to spend his weekends at upscale restaurants rather than hanging out at the local park with the old crew. And look, Ivica isn't a bad guy for that—he’s just living a different life.

Don't get me wrong though, people are also rightfully pissed off about corruption and corporate greed, because that's when someone steals THEIR money to fund their own Mercedes-Benz lifestyle, private yachts, and jets. It makes sense why people who built wealth through those shady means get mocked and hated, but that's really a whole different conversation.
Raymond Anderson4 Raymond Anderson4 Regular
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#48 ·
hollowjackal31 said:I find myself wondering about the origins of malicious people—it’s a fascinating question, isn't it...?
Is it purely genetics or the environment...?

It’s a mix of both.
When looking at genetics, you have genes like MAOA or CDH 13. The first one regulates serotonin and dopamine levels in the brain, while the second is linked to impulsivity.
I haven't found a definitive answer yet on whether having this specific combination always results in a "bad" person...
What I am curious about is why one person with both genes might commit a violent felony, while someone else with the exact same genetic makeup stays perfectly fine.
It seems likely that the environment plays a huge role here. Growing up in a supportive home could potentially suppress those genetic tendencies and minimize their impact.
For instance, it's possible that Adam Lanza carried both of those genes, but I also read he grew up in a very isolated, dysfunctional family.

I remember seeing a discussion on na rub znanost where a young researcher explained how the prefrontal cortex comes into play. They conducted studies where participants were shown violent imagery, and some individuals showed almost zero activity in certain parts of the prefrontal cortex—almost as if that section of the brain was essentially dormant.
crimsonrider44 crimsonrider44 Newcomer
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#49 ·
The only way to actually win is to stop giving them any power over you. Just walk through life with your head held high and focus entirely on the good stuff. I know, I know—it sounds like a total cliché, but trust me, it’s really the only way to go.
swiftridge72 swiftridge72 Member
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#50 ·
crimsonrider44 said:The only way to actually win is to stop giving them any power over you. Just walk through life with your head held high and focus entirely on the good stuff. I know, I know—it sounds like a total cliché, but trust me, it’s really the only way to go.

I'm with you on that.

People who act out of pure malice—we're talking full-blown sociopaths here—are basically just social parasites. You beat them by cutting off their supply line: stop giving them your attention and stop wasting your resources on them. Instead, pivot back to yourself. For instance, opt out of certain voting cycles, support local small businesses instead of massive corporations like Walmart, steer clear of toxic career paths, and lean into actual, practical skill-building. That's how you reclaim your power.
Benjamin Robinson3 Benjamin Robinson3 Active Member
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#51 ·
mellowjackal2 said:In my view, these individuals are shaped by growing up in toxic environments—specifically within a family home where they witness malice day after day. As a result, whether consciously or unconsciously, they continue to operate this way throughout their lives unless they find a way to break the cycle. They simply end up mimicking those same behavioral patterns forever.
It essentially comes down to a home lacking empathy, warmth, and genuine love, as well as a lack of core values. Later in life, they struggle to find any other way to exist because they haven't learned how to function in a healthy environment.

But there is always an exception to every "rule." I grew up in a toxic environment myself; I wasn't physically abused or anything, but it was psychologically devastating. That is exactly why I promised myself I would never become like that, and I am actively working on it. The journey is long and exhausting, just like any other, because sometimes you get overwhelmed by bitterness over something so stupid, but it happens to me less and less often. I never had any guidance or life lessons, so I draw all my motivation from other families, books, or things online about how to be a better person and how to pass that knowledge and positive mindset down to my own children. I see more and more evil around me lately, which saddens me quite a bit, but I won't let that force me into isolation; instead, I will go out and find people who are genuinely good and positive. 🙂
David Vaughn75 David Vaughn75 Regular
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#52 ·
Not even close.
Psychopathy isn't some glitch in your DNA—it’s something that gets baked in during pregnancy.

Bad people? Yeah, they’ll always be around, unfortunately. We just need to get better at spotting them instantly and tossing them behind bars before they can do any damage.
Carl Edwards10 Carl Edwards10 Newcomer
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#53 ·
Benjamin Robinson3 said:But there is always an exception to every "rule." I grew up in a toxic environment myself; I wasn't physically abused or anything, but it was psychologically devastating. That is exactly why I promised myself I would never become like that, and I am actively working on it. The journey is long and exhausting, just like any other, because sometimes you get overwhelmed by bitterness over something so stupid, but it happens to me less and less often. I never had any guidance or life lessons, so I draw all my motivation from other families, books, or things online about how to be a better person and how to pass that knowledge and positive mindset down to my own children. I see more and more evil around me lately, which saddens me quite a bit, but I won't let that force me into isolation; instead, I will go out and find people who are genuinely good and positive. 🙂

I grew up in a great home. My parents are wonderful, truly. I don't know where I'd be without them. But I've dealt with constant belittling, humiliation, and insults from others—so-called "friends," and even certain family members. It's sad, but true. The gossip, the rumors, the sabotage, the conspiracies. Regardless of how much it hurts, as someone else noted here, the only way is to focus on yourself and strive to be better. Don't sink to their level, no matter how tempting. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger. 🙂 For me, I had to retreat behind four walls. I didn't have a choice. I was surrounded by people who had zero good intentions toward me and nobody I could trust. People call it "just a joke" or "teasing," but they have no idea the scars it leaves. I'd honestly rather take a slap to the face than endure that kind of psychological abuse. It's a disaster... Those malicious people will eventually get what's coming to them. The key is knowing yourself, being sure of what you want, and acting according to your own convictions. Ignore them. Get away from them as fast as possible... if you can...
Betty Myers6 Betty Myers6 Member
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#54 ·
driftinghound12 said:I couldn't find an existing thread for this, so I’m starting my own because I’m genuinely preoccupied with it... I view this more as a psychology question than a philosophical one. Throughout my life, I've made a conscious effort to be a good person—honest, fair, someone who pursues goals through creativity and hard work, and stays kind and helpful to everyone. I try to approach everything with a positive mindset. It would all be much easier to enjoy if there weren't people in my orbit who seem hell-bent on causing harm. Generally speaking, these are individuals who thrive on destruction, constantly seeking validation by stepping on others. They just seem drawn to malice.

One such person pretended to be my friend, only to steal my boyfriend after we had been together for years. Another is my sister; when I confided my plans to her, she rushed to execute them herself just to snatch the credit. She loves nitpicking me over trivialities and belittling me to others to make herself look better. Then there was a colleague at work who swiped one of my ideas—in a workplace where we're supposed to be collaborating toward a shared goal—and took all the praise for it.

Why are some people naturally drawn to darkness, finding satisfaction in tearing things down for their own gain? How are you supposed to handle them once they've already won? What can be done as a preventative measure? Clearly, I’m attracting this kind of energy somehow; perhaps I’m trying too hard to be nice or "good," making myself an easy target for exploitation. I also don't understand why society seems to reward these types. They’re arrogant and "resourceful," knowing how to grab what they want without putting in any actual sweat or effort. Nowadays, it feels like screwing someone over has become normalized, while being decent is treated as the anomaly. Lately, I've become so guarded and disillusioned with people that I don't trust anyone, let alone want to go out. It got so bad that I actually attempted suicide because the pressure from these toxic people became suffocating. I just feel like I'm worthless and that none of my efforts matter.🤦

Zero. Honestly? It’s only gonna get worse from here. Just having the desire or the willpower to change isn't enough—it really isn't. Like, if people at work catch even a whiff that you're a pushover—and I mean that hypothetically, nothing personal—you're done. You'll become their favorite target for every little thing.

First off—I’m gonna lean more toward the philosophical side of things here. This isn't just some psychology deep dive, you know?

Look, there’s another side to this—because we have two genders, the way people interpret, define, and actually perceive good versus evil can take on thousands of different shapes. It's just how things work, right?

Thirdly—and I’m not even gonna get into the whole survivalist sub-problem here—because when you factor in that raw instinct to just stay alive (it's basically "me or them," right?), the line between good and evil gets pretty damn blurry.

Fourthly—look, a perfect example would be describing how things play out at some of today's workplaces. Around here, I’m basically equating evil with the concept of— Selfishness..

At work lately, people seem ready for anything—no matter how shady it is these days. We’re talking full-blown hypocrisy, blatant nepotism, and lies on top of lies. It’s wild.
Here’s the deal: someone is going to be sharing an office with you—and yeah, it’ll be fine at first. But they’re gonna try—and I mean *absolutely* try—to make sure you never feel like you actually fit in. Why? Because the boss decided you two have to share a space. Simple as that. The thing is, this person isn't even powerful enough yet—even if they got the job through some shady connection—to actually kick you out of the office. But still, you’re walking on eggshells. You never know where you stand. You try to be friendly, right? You try to build a rapport? Forget it. Anything you say in confidence just ends up being office gossip in the next cubicle over. It’s impossible to grab a coffee or just exist for eight hours a day without feeling the tension. And honestly? It gets even worse when you realize they’re low-key dumping their entire workload on you—with the manager’s blessing, no less. Then comes the kicker: you realize you’re way more competent than they are. You see exactly how much they *don't* know—and how hard they're working to hide that total incompetence—and man... it just makes you want to scream.

Look, I just feel like there’s gotta be some kind of balance—like good and evil need to exist side-by-side to make sense. But honestly? It feels like lately, that scale has tipped WAY too far toward the dark side.

P.S. Gotta run, out of time right now. I'll hit you guys up once I'm back.
Betty Myers6 Betty Myers6 Member
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#55 ·
Here’s another one for you—dealing with those toxic (aka straight-up evil) work relationships:
brightviper22 brightviper22 Member
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#56 ·
Never. Not in a million years. Evil doesn't sleep; it’s eternal... except, of course, for those sheep hiding in their churches.
Alexander Adams94 Alexander Adams94 Active Member
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#57 ·
You can't truly defeat evil or bad people; you just have to distance yourself from them. But if they come after you, you absolutely have to strike back hard enough to make sure they regret it—so they take their little games somewhere else, somewhere where the roses don't have thorns.
driftinghound12 driftinghound12 MemberOP
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#58 ·
Rather than quoting everyone individually, I’ll just leave a collective comment based on everything discussed so far... Sure, I agree you should distance yourself from toxic people—absolutely—but if life forces you to live with them or interact with them, you inevitably get sucked into their games. I'm not entirely sure if malice is hardwired into someone's DNA, but there's definitely a connection; my own father was like that, while my mother wasn't, and he constantly belittled her because she didn't fit his narrow vision of what a partner should be. Also, I never claimed I do things for recognition; I do them out of pure passion. What really gets to me is how society tends to reward hypocrisy, lying, or those who tear down someone else's honest work just to get ahead. As for getting even with these types of people, I have zero interest in stooping to their primitive level or wasting my breath trying to strike back. But when you're forced into a corner where you have to react, you end up burning through all your energy on useless nonsense, which is the kind of pressure I was thinking about...🙂
Brenda Booth5 Brenda Booth5 Member
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#59 ·
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driftinghound12 says:
... What really gets to me is seeing how much people reward hypocrisy, lying, or just plain old greed when they're trying to tear down someone else's honest hard work. As for getting even with those kinds of toxic people, I honestly can't wrap my head around stooping to their primitive level or wasting any of my own energy playing their games, but when you're backed into a corner and forced to react, you end up draining yourself on things that don't even matter... I was just thinking about that kind of pressure...🙂>
That bolded part hits home; it’s one of those things where most decent, "normal" people have this gut reaction to fix an injustice or just feel a deep sense of outrage at the presence of such malice. And then, more often than not, if you actually decide to fight against it, you end up completely exhausted, just like you described.

From what I've seen, the best move is to try and move past that urge to hunt down justice and instead focus on just being yourself—because, honestly, that's its own kind of battle. It isn't easy, either, but there's much less risk of burning yourself out in the process.
Susan Robinson3 Susan Robinson3 Member
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#60 ·
driftinghound12 said:Rather than quoting everyone individually, I’ll just leave a collective comment based on everything discussed so far... Sure, I agree you should distance yourself from toxic people—absolutely—but if life forces you to live with them or interact with them, you inevitably get sucked into their games. I'm not entirely sure if malice is hardwired into someone's DNA, but there's definitely a connection; my own father was like that, while my mother wasn't, and he constantly belittled her because she didn't fit his narrow vision of what a partner should be. Also, I never claimed I do things for recognition; I do them out of pure passion. What really gets to me is how society tends to reward hypocrisy, lying, or those who tear down someone else's honest work just to get ahead. As for getting even with these types of people, I have zero interest in stooping to their primitive level or wasting my breath trying to strike back. But when you're forced into a corner where you have to react, you end up burning through all your energy on useless nonsense, which is the kind of pressure I was thinking about...🙂

Your perspective is beautiful; please stay true to yourself.👍

I actually recently sought revenge over something because I let my ego get the better of me, and I have regretted it deeply ever since. Revenge is honestly one of the most foolish and pathetic things you can do to another person; the moment I did it, it came back to haunt me twofold in the form of a guilty conscience that still weighs on me today. There will always be bad people and evil in this world, so just don't waste your energy or your nerves on them. A friend of mine, who knows quite a bit about these dynamics, once told me that malicious people actually feed off your suffering—so don't give them the satisfaction. Be stronger than them. Good luck! 👍

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