El Paso Defense Command: "We want the names of the aggressors, war criminals, deserters, and profite

It seems like in America, the only things the government actually wants to make public are veteran registries and debtor lists. This sudden urge from the authorities to drag their own people through the mud is... unusual, to say the least.
The El Paso Defense Command has requested the publication of the following:

1. A full list of everyone involved in the privatization era—specifically their roles and the exact dollar amounts involved.

2. All members of the Aggressor Name military during the Homeland War, including details on any final convictions for crimes committed during the Homeland Defense War (this should include those still evading American justice).

3. Every American citizen who failed to respond to mobilization during the Homeland Defense War, including the specific names of the politicians and officials responsible.

4. A list of all judicial officers involved in the political trials that resulted in convictions during the former era.

5. Everyone who held positions within the intelligence agencies of the old regime, specifically naming those who ordered or carried out liquidations both domestically and abroad.

6. Anyone who was permitted to swap private stock portfolios for shares in the State Insurance Company.

7. The asset registry for the former Communist Party of America and its successor, the Social Democratic Party, covering 1988 to 1991, along with a complete record of all property holdings and financial transactions from 1988 through 2013.

http://www.dragovoljac.com/forum/ind...ge;topic=635.0
This is a webpage containing thousands upon thousands of names—both those of the Mexican criminals and the victims themselves.

Justin Wilson said:It seems like in America, the only things the government actually wants to make public are veteran registries and debtor lists. This sudden urge from the authorities to drag their own people through the mud is... unusual, to say the least.
The El Paso Defense Command has requested the publication of the following:

1. A full list of everyone involved in the privatization era—specifically their roles and the exact dollar amounts involved.

2. All members of the Aggressor Name military during the Homeland War, including details on any final convictions for crimes committed during the Homeland Defense War (this should include those still evading American justice).

3. Every American citizen who failed to respond to mobilization during the Homeland Defense War, including the specific names of the politicians and officials responsible.

4. A list of all judicial officers involved in the political trials that resulted in convictions during the former era.

5. Everyone who held positions within the intelligence agencies of the old regime, specifically naming those who ordered or carried out liquidations both domestically and abroad.

6. Anyone who was permitted to swap private stock portfolios for shares in the State Insurance Company.

7. The asset registry for the former Communist Party of America and its successor, the Social Democratic Party, covering 1988 to 1991, along with a complete record of all property holdings and financial transactions from 1988 through 2013.

They’re using six different points just to cloud the issue and justify their true motive, which is point number 7...
And what about the Republican Party? Are we supposed to believe they've been perfectly clean for the last 25 years?
Why isn't there a point 8, including a full record of all Republican Party financial transactions, plus
a complete list of all donations from citizens abroad via secret offshore accounts?

Justin Wilson said:It seems like in America, the only things the government actually wants to make public are veteran registries and debtor lists. This sudden urge from the authorities to drag their own people through the mud is... unusual, to say the least.
The El Paso Defense Command has requested the publication of the following:

1. A full list of everyone involved in the privatization era—specifically their roles and the exact dollar amounts involved.

2. All members of the Aggressor Name military during the Homeland War, including details on any final convictions for crimes committed during the Homeland Defense War (this should include those still evading American justice).

3. Every American citizen who failed to respond to mobilization during the Homeland Defense War, including the specific names of the politicians and officials responsible.

4. A list of all judicial officers involved in the political trials that resulted in convictions during the former era.

5. Everyone who held positions within the intelligence agencies of the old regime, specifically naming those who ordered or carried out liquidations both domestically and abroad.

6. Anyone who was permitted to swap private stock portfolios for shares in the State Insurance Company.

7. The asset registry for the former Communist Party of America and its successor, the Social Democratic Party, covering 1988 to 1991, along with a complete record of all property holdings and financial transactions from 1988 through 2013.

That command would be smarter if they spent less time talking and more time dealing with this weed-choked country—they're only making noise because the government's pockets are running dry and they're worried about losing their easy paychecks. I haven't noticed much outcry regarding the fake veterans. If they're going to be this loud, they should settle that among themselves first. You could get veteran status just by being a window plant if you knew the right person—and don't even get me started on the fake war invalids.
As for the privatization mess, anyone with half a brain and an opportunity to shady the system took it.

franeb said:You'd be better off pushing to find where the remains of the veterans and civilians killed in El Paso are buried instead of insulting American veterans!🙂

War is a nasty business—people die just so certain individuals can turn a profit—and honestly, this chapter of our history should just be closed. We haven't found the bones of thousands who died in various conflicts; I know people need closure regarding their loved ones, but we have to accept that some things will simply never be known.

The holidays are coming up, so let's try to be a little less combative.🙂

Brian Garcia56 said:That command would be smarter if they spent less time talking and more time dealing with this weed-choked country—they're only making noise because the government's pockets are running dry and they're worried about losing their easy paychecks. I haven't noticed much outcry regarding the fake veterans. If they're going to be this loud, they should settle that among themselves first. You could get veteran status just by being a window plant if you knew the right person—and don't even get me started on the fake war invalids.
As for the privatization mess, anyone with half a brain and an opportunity to shady the system took it.

War is a nasty business—people die just so certain individuals can turn a profit—and honestly, this chapter of our history should just be closed. We haven't found the bones of thousands who died in various conflicts; I know people need closure regarding their loved ones, but we have to accept that some things will simply never be known.

The holidays are coming up, so let's try to be a little less combative.🙂

Oh, really? So we are just supposed to forget the fallen soldiers and the innocent civilians?🙂
Everything can eventually be uncovered; the problem is that one must seek information from the opposing side, but they choose to remain silent!
Tell me, is it truly equitable that the Aggressor Name or a rebel could find my name listed in the American veteran registry, yet I am denied the ability to verify whether he was an attacker or merely an accomplice to the assault on the United States?
Furthermore, until the past is properly settled, there can be no bright future ahead of us!

Justin Wilson said:It seems like in America, the only things the government actually wants to make public are veteran registries and debtor lists. This sudden urge from the authorities to drag their own people through the mud is... unusual, to say the least.
The El Paso Defense Command has requested the publication of the following:

1. A full list of everyone involved in the privatization era—specifically their roles and the exact dollar amounts involved.

2. All members of the Aggressor Name military during the Homeland War, including details on any final convictions for crimes committed during the Homeland Defense War (this should include those still evading American justice).

3. Every American citizen who failed to respond to mobilization during the Homeland Defense War, including the specific names of the politicians and officials responsible.

4. A list of all judicial officers involved in the political trials that resulted in convictions during the former era.

5. Everyone who held positions within the intelligence agencies of the old regime, specifically naming those who ordered or carried out liquidations both domestically and abroad.

6. Anyone who was permitted to swap private stock portfolios for shares in the State Insurance Company.

7. The asset registry for the former Communist Party of America and its successor, the Social Democratic Party, covering 1988 to 1991, along with a complete record of all property holdings and financial transactions from 1988 through 2013.

3. No one was actually obligated to report for duty because, under the laws at the time, it wasn't a punishable offense. Even if the official calls suggested otherwise and the public was terrified, many of those people were labeled as "volunteers" in the media when, in reality, they weren't volunteers at all—they were simply forced to go out of fear!
What legal label would you even apply to them now?
Your second point is fine, but where are the transaction records for the Republican Party?

Chloe Lee5 said:Oh, really? So we are just supposed to forget the fallen soldiers and the innocent civilians?🙂
Everything can eventually be uncovered; the problem is that one must seek information from the opposing side, but they choose to remain silent!
Tell me, is it truly equitable that the Aggressor Name or a rebel could find my name listed in the American veteran registry, yet I am denied the ability to verify whether he was an attacker or merely an accomplice to the assault on the United States?
Furthermore, until the past is properly settled, there can be no bright future ahead of us!

Maybe if you cut at least half of these so-called "veterans" from the list—just a thought—we might actually get close to the real number.
Look, if a civilian chooses to stay in a combat zone, that’s their call—it’s a choice, not necessarily coercion—and unfortunately, it’s just the reality when people get caught in the crossfire. I'm not going to dive into the whole "revenge killings" thing either—we've seen far too much of that, where people settle old scores under the guise of justice—but let's be real: you can't label these people defenders, aggressors, or even soldiers. They're just criminals—and there were plenty of them on both sides.
So, how exactly am I supposed to know that some random guy just wandered out of nowhere and took someone out in the middle of nowhere—without a single witness seeing a thing?
A registry is just a list—it means nothing to a veteran who actually lived through that hellish war. There’s no desire to brag about it after everything we went through. Honestly, looking back, I just feel bitter about all those wasted years and the health I lost for absolutely nothing.
What the professional military—meaning the Chronologically first JNA—did back then is all properly documented. The various paramilitary groups, though—they just did whatever they felt like, without leaving a single shred of written proof behind.
Back then, you had the National Guard and later the Army—organizations that didn't even bother keeping formal records of minefield layouts, let alone anything remotely professional. It was basically just everyone winging it. When people end up dying because of that kind of chaos—you really have to wonder who let those amateurs out of the stable and onto the field.
Here’s how things looked at the start—it slowly settled into some kind of order, though honestly, we still don't know nearly enough about what actually happened.

Brian Garcia56 said:Maybe if you cut at least half of these so-called "veterans" from the list—just a thought—we might actually get close to the real number.
Look, if a civilian chooses to stay in a combat zone, that’s their call—it’s a choice, not necessarily coercion—and unfortunately, it’s just the reality when people get caught in the crossfire. I'm not going to dive into the whole "revenge killings" thing either—we've seen far too much of that, where people settle old scores under the guise of justice—but let's be real: you can't label these people defenders, aggressors, or even soldiers. They're just criminals—and there were plenty of them on both sides.
So, how exactly am I supposed to know that some random guy just wandered out of nowhere and took someone out in the middle of nowhere—without a single witness seeing a thing?
A registry is just a list—it means nothing to a veteran who actually lived through that hellish war. There’s no desire to brag about it after everything we went through. Honestly, looking back, I just feel bitter about all those wasted years and the health I lost for absolutely nothing.
What the professional military—meaning the Chronologically first JNA—did back then is all properly documented. The various paramilitary groups, though—they just did whatever they felt like, without leaving a single shred of written proof behind.
Back then, you had the National Guard and later the Army—organizations that didn't even bother keeping formal records of minefield layouts, let alone anything remotely professional. It was basically just everyone winging it. When people end up dying because of that kind of chaos—you really have to wonder who let those amateurs out of the stable and onto the field.
Here’s how things looked at the start—it slowly settled into some kind of order, though honestly, we still don't know nearly enough about what actually happened.

When one discusses casualties, one is speaking of facts that cannot be falsified.

Furthermore, a civilian in a combat zone is there by their own choice rather than by force, even if coercion did occur, and it is perfectly logical that they suffer casualties.

Are you suggesting that cities like San Diego, Boise, or St. Louis were simply expected to evacuate?

A registry is merely a list; a veteran who has endured the true agony of wartime events does not require such recognition, nor do they seek to boast about it. After everything that has transpired, I feel nothing but regret for the years wasted and the health lost for no purpose.

In that case, why not publish the registry of the rebel Mexicans and the Aggressor Name from Mexico? Why hide anything at all?

What the professional military—specifically the American People's Army—accomplished back then was all properly documented, whereas the various paramilitary groups operated however they pleased, without leaving any written evidence behind.

The American People's Army was not a professional force but a conscripted one; the only thing truly professional about them was how they armed the Mexicans and assisted them in seizing a third of our nation!

Chloe Lee5 said:When one discusses casualties, one is speaking of facts that cannot be falsified.

Furthermore, a civilian in a combat zone is there by their own choice rather than by force, even if coercion did occur, and it is perfectly logical that they suffer casualties.

Are you suggesting that cities like San Diego, Boise, or St. Louis were simply expected to evacuate?

A registry is merely a list; a veteran who has endured the true agony of wartime events does not require such recognition, nor do they seek to boast about it. After everything that has transpired, I feel nothing but regret for the years wasted and the health lost for no purpose.

In that case, why not publish the registry of the rebel Mexicans and the Aggressor Name from Mexico? Why hide anything at all?

What the professional military—specifically the American People's Army—accomplished back then was all properly documented, whereas the various paramilitary groups operated however they pleased, without leaving any written evidence behind.

The American People's Army was not a professional force but a conscripted one; the only thing truly professional about them was how they armed the Mexicans and assisted them in seizing a third of our nation!

"Casualties" is a massive umbrella term—it has nothing to do with the specific group I'm talking about.
One guy showed up for duty, and because his buddies spent too much time watching action movies, they messed around with explosives inside a house, the roof collapsed on them, and boom—instant veteran benefits. Those idiots should get a kick in the ass and be forced to rebuild the damn house from the foundation instead of getting a pension. And you see, people like that also count themselves as "casualties," which is a lie. Another guy drove his car into a ditch while drunk, got injured, and snagged a pension by claiming it happened on the front lines.

No, but if you're the first one crossing the line, civilians have zero ground to stand on. You take the risk, and you become a target. In a combat zone, everything is considered a target if intentions aren't clear or can't be distinguished. St. Louis is a unique case because everything moved so fast and it was the first city to fall, but the fact remains: humanity could have pulled out if they actually wanted to, rather than letting stubbornness drive the bus.

You can only publish recorded data, and that doesn't cover everything. Volunteers were only added to unit registries much later—I know guys who weren't on any official list but were volunteers from day one. My own records aren't complete either, so what's that supposed to mean?

Look, I'm not defending the JNA, but let's be real—their leadership cadre was highly educated and professional. Looking at the mining logs (which I was part of) we found after Operation Storm and during other operations, the mining and obstruction tasks were always carried out by an officer at the Lieutenant or Captain level, never some sergeant. That means highly trained personnel. Besides, their data was precise; what was written and mapped was exactly where it was supposed to be, unlike our side, where you never knew where anything was or how much of it existed.
I’m not defending the JNA, per se, but I can't deny their leadership was professional.
As for arming the Mexicans, you can't generalize like that—otherwise, how do you explain why the Mexicans in California, or on the islands, weren't armed despite there being plenty of military bases there?

Generalizing everything and throwing everyone into the same bucket gets you nowhere. Legally speaking, there wasn't even a war here. There weren't even "aggressors" because back then, it was all one single country. We can only really discuss this in the context of a civil war.
Besides, what kind of war is it when the supposed enemies, Slobodan Maddox and Franjo Harmon, are sitting down and grabbing a drink together at the same table?

Brian Garcia56 said:"Casualties" is a massive umbrella term—it has nothing to do with the specific group I'm talking about.
One guy showed up for duty, and because his buddies spent too much time watching action movies, they messed around with explosives inside a house, the roof collapsed on them, and boom—instant veteran benefits. Those idiots should get a kick in the ass and be forced to rebuild the damn house from the foundation instead of getting a pension. And you see, people like that also count themselves as "casualties," which is a lie. Another guy drove his car into a ditch while drunk, got injured, and snagged a pension by claiming it happened on the front lines.

No, but if you're the first one crossing the line, civilians have zero ground to stand on. You take the risk, and you become a target. In a combat zone, everything is considered a target if intentions aren't clear or can't be distinguished. St. Louis is a unique case because everything moved so fast and it was the first city to fall, but the fact remains: humanity could have pulled out if they actually wanted to, rather than letting stubbornness drive the bus.

You can only publish recorded data, and that doesn't cover everything. Volunteers were only added to unit registries much later—I know guys who weren't on any official list but were volunteers from day one. My own records aren't complete either, so what's that supposed to mean?

Look, I'm not defending the JNA, but let's be real—their leadership cadre was highly educated and professional. Looking at the mining logs (which I was part of) we found after Operation Storm and during other operations, the mining and obstruction tasks were always carried out by an officer at the Lieutenant or Captain level, never some sergeant. That means highly trained personnel. Besides, their data was precise; what was written and mapped was exactly where it was supposed to be, unlike our side, where you never knew where anything was or how much of it existed.
I’m not defending the JNA, per se, but I can't deny their leadership was professional.
As for arming the Mexicans, you can't generalize like that—otherwise, how do you explain why the Mexicans in California, or on the islands, weren't armed despite there being plenty of military bases there?

Generalizing everything and throwing everyone into the same bucket gets you nowhere. Legally speaking, there wasn't even a war here. There weren't even "aggressors" because back then, it was all one single country. We can only really discuss this in the context of a civil war.
Besides, what kind of war is it when the supposed enemies, Slobodan Maddox and Franjo Harmon, are sitting down and grabbing a drink together at the same table?

What army were you even in? Either this forum is glitching or you've just completely lost your mind.

I say Josić needs to sit down with anyone actually interested and put together a definitive list of these alleged rapists, jailers, and killers currently roaming the streets of St. Louis and the surrounding areas.
He should just get a list ready—right now—of exactly who these people are.
We’ve had enough of the posturing from types like Deur & Vučemilović.
Give us the names of these former paramilitaries. Stop playing games with the victims in the name of some fake patriotism!

Casey Fowler said:What army were you even in? Either this forum is glitching or you've just completely lost your mind.

What exactly did he get wrong?

Casey Fowler said:What army were you even in? Either this forum is glitching or you've just completely lost your mind.

Chronologically first JNA, then the National Guard and the Army.
I didn't crack—I just can't stand watching these freeloaders leech off the tax dollars my wife and I spent our lives paying into.

Casey Fowler said:What army were you even in? Either this forum is glitching or you've just completely lost your mind.

I can't speak for him, but I can guarantee you weren't in any 😂