The Independence of Manchukuo

Manchukuo was established as an independent nation by the Manchu people and the Qing Dynasty back in 1931.
By 1945, however, Soviet communist imperialists had occupied the territory, handing it over to the occupation forces of the People's Republic of China. Since then, the Manchu people—a population of roughly 10 million—have been stripped of their rights, with the entire Manchukuo region subjected to Han Chinese colonization and forced assimilation into a massive Chinese red empire.

It is time to raise our voices for this disenfranchised and threatened people. We must offer whatever support we can in their righteous struggle to reclaim the freedom and independence of their homeland.

http://http//manchukuo.destroy-china.jp/

Look, seriously, maybe take some time to actually dig into the history and the facts regarding Manchukuo first—just a friendly tip so you don't end up looking this clueless on the forums...

Right from the jump when Manchukuo was established as a Japanese puppet state, it had an ethnic Chinese majority—or, if I'm being super specific here, it had in every single moment of its weird, twisted history/existence a majority of Han ethnicity... Let me break that down for you—the Han make up roughly 90% of the population in the current People's Republic of China!

Case closed, and the OP is totally discredited 🙂!

For centuries, the Manchuria region and the Manchu people have been inextricably linked to China; essentially, they are an integral part of the Chinese nation.

I suppose China ought to be raising some serious questions with Japan regarding Manchukuo—perhaps demanding war reparations by handing over one of their four main islands as compensation for those crimes committed in China back in the '30s.

cosmicowl14 said:Manchukuo was established as an independent nation by the Manchu people and the Qing Dynasty back in 1931.
By 1945, however, Soviet communist imperialists had occupied the territory, handing it over to the occupation forces of the People's Republic of China. Since then, the Manchu people—a population of roughly 10 million—have been stripped of their rights, with the entire Manchukuo region subjected to Han Chinese colonization and forced assimilation into a massive Chinese red empire.

It is time to raise our voices for this disenfranchised and threatened people. We must offer whatever support we can in their righteous struggle to reclaim the freedom and independence of their homeland.

http://http//manchukuo.destroy-china.jp/

The reality is that Manchukuo was nothing more than a Japanese puppet state. Even the emperor, Puyi, was just a marionette held in the Japanese hand. Given how the Japanese treated the Chinese during that era, it’s hard to view anything about this as actual liberation...

Nancy Wood6 said:Look, seriously, maybe take some time to actually dig into the history and the facts regarding Manchukuo first—just a friendly tip so you don't end up looking this clueless on the forums...

Right from the jump when Manchukuo was established as a Japanese puppet state, it had an ethnic Chinese majority—or, if I'm being super specific here, it had in every single moment of its weird, twisted history/existence a majority of Han ethnicity... Let me break that down for you—the Han make up roughly 90% of the population in the current People's Republic of China!

Case closed, and the OP is totally discredited 🙂!

Is there such a thing as a Manchu language, or is it basically just a variation of Mandarin?

Do all Han Chinese people speak Mandarin?

How does the ethnic division in China actually work on a day-to-day basis? Is it a functional system or just for show?

Nancy Wood6 said:Look, seriously, maybe take some time to actually dig into the history and the facts regarding Manchukuo first—just a friendly tip so you don't end up looking this clueless on the forums...

Right from the jump when Manchukuo was established as a Japanese puppet state, it had an ethnic Chinese majority—or, if I'm being super specific here, it had in every single moment of its weird, twisted history/existence a majority of Han ethnicity... Let me break that down for you—the Han make up roughly 90% of the population in the current People's Republic of China!

Case closed, and the OP is totally discredited 🙂!

The current demographic breakdown of the Manchuria region by province—based on the Communist administrative divisions: Liaoning province. The numbers tell the story—35.1 million Han versus 5.4 million Manchu.

Heilongiang province. Han 34.4, Manchu 1.0.

Jilin Han 24.3, Manchu 1.1.

Beyond that, the border regions of Hebei are also home to an additional 2 million Manchu people.

All told, out of a population of roughly 100 million in the Manchuria region, Chinese censuses claim only about 10.5 million are ethnically Manchu—but we have to take those numbers with a massive grain of salt. We are dealing with a totalitarian state where concentration camps reminiscent of Auschwitz still exist and public executions are a reality; it wouldn't be a stretch to assume their census figures are off by ten million in either direction. This is the status quo after sixty years of genocide under a criminal regime. You see the exact same pattern playing out in Tibet and Mongolia.

Ashley Brown3 said:Is there such a thing as a Manchu language, or is it basically just a variation of Mandarin?

Do all Han Chinese people speak Mandarin?

How does the ethnic division in China actually work on a day-to-day basis? Is it a functional system or just for show?

The Manchu language exists, though most Manchu people don't speak it anymore. There have been some recent attempts at teaching programs, but they mostly rely on volunteers rather than any real government backing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchu_language

copperhound122 said:I suppose China ought to be raising some serious questions with Japan regarding Manchukuo—perhaps demanding war reparations by handing over one of their four main islands as compensation for those crimes committed in China back in the '30s.

The thing is, those alleged crimes were later fabricated by the Chinese to bury their own communist atrocities—not to mention the inconvenient fact that they actually sided with Japan during WWII. The Chinese government that controlled most of the territory, including the capital, Nanjing, was led by the Kuomintang and its leader, Wang Jingwei, who acted as an ally to Japan.

just a hole at the start of the thread
Manchuria was just a byproduct of Japanese militarism

cosmicowl14 said:The thing is, those alleged crimes were later fabricated by the Chinese to bury their own communist atrocities—not to mention the inconvenient fact that they actually sided with Japan during WWII. The Chinese government that controlled most of the territory, including the capital, Nanjing, was led by the Kuomintang and its leader, Wang Jingwei, who acted as an ally to Japan.

Exactly. If you really sit down and think about it, the Japanese weren't even fighting in China; it was all just a setup. The Japanese didn't even participate in WWII—it was just the Chinese wearing Japanese uniforms... I mean, who could even tell the difference?

Long live our brotherly and traditionally close Manchurian people... and the Singaporeans.👍(stuck in a tight spot)

Threads like this should be locked immediately, and the authors should get a permanent ban. Even Goebbels or the American propaganda machine would be ashamed of such blatant, shameless lying.