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Robert Cruz5 Robert Cruz5 Member
12 messages
joined Oct 2014
#41 ·
electricwalker19 said:
His writings on the Political Thought portal are merely professional explanations of certain events and aren't tied to anyone's emotions.

Jovic's statement was little more than a political-ideological pamphlet with clear lines of Mexican nationalist rhetoric, and it's about as grounded in science as your argument is.
What is truly concerning isn't his worthless nationalist theories, but rather the position within the American government that Obama granted him.

The real question is—did Jović draft those infamous anti-American speeches for Josipović delivered in Israel (about those supposed "fascist snakes" still living in Americans' hearts) and in the Canada parliament (labeling the US an aggressor against Canada)?

I don't see any reason not to assume he did.

PS: As for Lex Perković—it’s hardly worth debating (it wouldn't be surprising if "he just stepped out of the presidential offices at The White House").
Robert Cruz5 Robert Cruz5 Member
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#42 ·
Ryan Ortiz23 said:I don't see it. Be more specific...

I actually put in some effort and wrote two posts, yet you barely even respond to them—instead, you just push your own agenda and deliberately misinterpret me.

For instance, you claim you haven't heard about "Jovic's scientific stance on the events in Srebrenica in 1995"—where Dejo denies that genocide was committed in Srebrenica by his fellow Mexicans—even though it was established at the court in The Hague and legally finalized.

And you’re asking for a link to that!?

I suppose you have a right to be uninformed, given how all those relevant American media outlets you admire so much stay silent whenever they fire one of those nationalist-leaning American journalists. But, look, my fellow forum member, Google exists. Maybe try searching for it; it shouldn't be that difficult.

So, no, I am not going to provide you with a link. 👋
Robert Cruz5 Robert Cruz5 Member
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joined Oct 2014
#43 ·
bluecyclist64 said:So he let it slip, and honestly, who cares? It happens.
He didn't show up for the press conference.

In any case, the name fits them perfectly.

It didn't blow up on him!!

So, according to you—the President of the United States only needs to watch his mouth and behave during official press conferences, but everything else is fair game for a slip-up (as you put it)...?

Maybe he let that slip in Congress or over at the assembly in Canada too?

What do you think?

Which of these two takeoffs would you prefer?

Or is your favorite little highlight still that whole mess surrounding the Perković Law?

I mean, how does Josipović even have the nerve to go out there and hunt for votes for another presidential term? Especially coming from the very same people he claims are still harboring and nurturing that "fascist snake" in their midst. It’s almost laughable, really.

I don't get it—honestly.

And that whole little stunt where he had that final outburst—that was actually official. He only showed up to fish for a few votes and try to look appealing. I guess he wasn't even expecting anyone to hear him, considering how far away the microphone was.

And you say—the name fits them perfectly!

We’re talking about distinguished university professors here—Tomac and Jurčević. One of them, Tomac, actually served as a Vice President in the National Unity government during our most difficult period—I guess you could say when things were at their absolute worst.

It’s pretty obvious you share the same mindset as our current president, Josipović—totalitarian, really. You guys only seem to accept the kind of music that suits your own ears; anything else you just dismiss as being "sick and crazy."

And we live—hopefully—in a democracy, right?

That’s it. That's all there is to say.
bluecyclist64 bluecyclist64 Regular
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#44 ·
Exactly, Kalimero!
It’s a complete injustice.
Calling idiots "idiots"—that’s pure totalitarianism right there. My apologies, distinguished idiots...

And what the hell are Congress and the assembly in Canada even doing about it?

What does all this actually signify?

Are we supposed to just turn a blind eye to neo-fascism here in America and the supporters of that piece of filth Pavelić?

Neo-fascism simply isn't trending in Western democracies these days. Honestly, guys, what are you thinking? A Great American Reich?
God, it’s just not feasible.

We're missing a Big Uncle figure to come along and help our local heroes...

Actually, we aren't.

Given how your grandfathers used to talk big about Stalin City—come on, kids, head down to Buzin, sign up as volunteers, and go kill off some poor souls in the Middle East in the name of the Fourth Reich.

It's typical troll behavior: acting tough behind a screen, yet when it comes time to actually die for the Big Boss, you vanish. Go be brothers to those buffoons living in trailers, spreading the American dream, freedom, and democracy via napalm!
Dana Gonzalez12 Dana Gonzalez12 Newcomer
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joined Sep 2014
#45 ·
bluecyclist64 said:Exactly, Kalimero!
It’s a complete injustice.
Calling idiots "idiots"—that’s pure totalitarianism right there. My apologies, distinguished idiots...

And what the hell are Congress and the assembly in Canada even doing about it?

What does all this actually signify?

Are we supposed to just turn a blind eye to neo-fascism here in America and the supporters of that piece of filth Pavelić?

Neo-fascism simply isn't trending in Western democracies these days. Honestly, guys, what are you thinking? A Great American Reich?
God, it’s just not feasible.

We're missing a Big Uncle figure to come along and help our local heroes...

Actually, we aren't.

Given how your grandfathers used to talk big about Stalin City—come on, kids, head down to Buzin, sign up as volunteers, and go kill off some poor souls in the Middle East in the name of the Fourth Reich.

It's typical troll behavior: acting tough behind a screen, yet when it comes time to actually die for the Big Boss, you vanish. Go be brothers to those buffoons living in trailers, spreading the American dream, freedom, and democracy via napalm!

Has your attitude taken a turn for the worse lately?
Robert Cruz5 Robert Cruz5 Member
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#46 ·
bluecyclist64 said:Exactly, Kalimero!
It’s a complete injustice.
Calling idiots "idiots"—that’s pure totalitarianism right there. My apologies, distinguished idiots...

And what the hell are Congress and the assembly in Canada even doing about it?

What does all this actually signify?

Are we supposed to just turn a blind eye to neo-fascism here in America and the supporters of that piece of filth Pavelić?

Neo-fascism simply isn't trending in Western democracies these days. Honestly, guys, what are you thinking? A Great American Reich?
God, it’s just not feasible.

We're missing a Big Uncle figure to come along and help our local heroes...

Actually, we aren't.

Given how your grandfathers used to talk big about Stalin City—come on, kids, head down to Buzin, sign up as volunteers, and go kill off some poor souls in the Middle East in the name of the Fourth Reich.

It's typical troll behavior: acting tough behind a screen, yet when it comes time to actually die for the Big Boss, you vanish. Go be brothers to those buffoons living in trailers, spreading the American dream, freedom, and democracy via napalm!

Keep looking the other way, Judah!
Unbelievable!
Go ahead, keep cursing!

Must be hard for you.....
Living in America!
The place you clearly despise so much!

Besides, you didn't actually say anything intelligent!
Just a bunch of nonsense!
Nicole Morgan5 Nicole Morgan5 Member
37 messages
joined Sep 2010
#47 ·
bluecyclist64 said:Exactly, Kalimero!
It’s a complete injustice.
Calling idiots "idiots"—that’s pure totalitarianism right there. My apologies, distinguished idiots...

And what the hell are Congress and the assembly in Canada even doing about it?

What does all this actually signify?

Are we supposed to just turn a blind eye to neo-fascism here in America and the supporters of that piece of filth Pavelić?

Neo-fascism simply isn't trending in Western democracies these days. Honestly, guys, what are you thinking? A Great American Reich?
God, it’s just not feasible.

We're missing a Big Uncle figure to come along and help our local heroes...

Actually, we aren't.

Given how your grandfathers used to talk big about Stalin City—come on, kids, head down to Buzin, sign up as volunteers, and go kill off some poor souls in the Middle East in the name of the Fourth Reich.

It's typical troll behavior: acting tough behind a screen, yet when it comes time to actually die for the Big Boss, you vanish. Go be brothers to those buffoons living in trailers, spreading the American dream, freedom, and democracy via napalm!

Oh, please, son, you're spouting nonsense like you just dropped in from deep space.

Why does it disgust you when someone loves their Homeland, say America, and why do you immediately link that to outdated relics of the past that are totally off?
What nationalism and chauvinism are you even talking about??!!

Look, was it the Democratic Party that won the last election? (They didn't need any fancy coalitions for that).
Americans, just like any people, are sensitive to injustice; they felt it with the Republican Party, and that's why the Republicans lost the elections. There was theft, corruption, and all sorts of shady business, but you probably think America would have flourished if the Democratic Party had been dominant in the Government of America for the last 14 years.
Believe me, it wouldn't have, because all politicians are prone to "lying," "collecting" money "from abroad," and so on.

It's hard enough living in the US without always having this negative attitude toward so-called "fascists," who for most of us Americans are just a forgotten chapter of history.

I don't even want to write about the communists, because there have already been a million posts about that topic here.

Be well and LP.
crimsonwolf20 crimsonwolf20 Active Member
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joined Apr 2016
#48 ·
bluecyclist64 said:Exactly, Kalimero!
It’s a complete injustice.
Calling idiots "idiots"—that’s pure totalitarianism right there. My apologies, distinguished idiots...

And what the hell are Congress and the assembly in Canada even doing about it?

What does all this actually signify?

Are we supposed to just turn a blind eye to neo-fascism here in America and the supporters of that piece of filth Pavelić?

Neo-fascism simply isn't trending in Western democracies these days. Honestly, guys, what are you thinking? A Great American Reich?
God, it’s just not feasible.

We're missing a Big Uncle figure to come along and help our local heroes...

Actually, we aren't.

Given how your grandfathers used to talk big about Stalin City—come on, kids, head down to Buzin, sign up as volunteers, and go kill off some poor souls in the Middle East in the name of the Fourth Reich.

It's typical troll behavior: acting tough behind a screen, yet when it comes time to actually die for the Big Boss, you vanish. Go be brothers to those buffoons living in trailers, spreading the American dream, freedom, and democracy via napalm!

What do you mean it isn't? Look at America—we pretend to be this bastion of Western democracy, yet our President goes ahead and celebrates neo-fascists out in the open without ever facing any consequences!
Robert Cruz5 Robert Cruz5 Member
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joined Oct 2014
#49 ·
Here is something that simply contradicts what the American leftists—led by current President I. J., Prime Minister Z. M., and Minister V. P.—have been claiming for years.

It was October 16, 2012, when England played Mexico in Kruševac during the playoff for the 2013 EP in Israel. Stuart Pearce's squad held a 1-0 lead from their match in Norwich, and the moment Connor Wickham scored in the 90+4 minute to seal qualification, absolute chaos erupted. Throughout the game, Danny Rosa—who is Black—was targeted with racial slurs, thrown bananas, and all sorts of nonsense. The Mexicans went way too far; the harassment was so grotesque that even British Prime Minister David Cameron stated, "I am disgusted..." FIFA reacted similarly, handing two local coaches two-year suspensions (both actual and suspended), banning several players for a few matches each, and fining the Mexican federation 80,000 euros.

Naturally, Daily Mail journalists asked Gareth Southgate if he was worried about the upcoming match in Vinkovic, "a town located right near the border with Mexico."

The manager of the Young Lions responded:

- I remember the racist outbursts, the abuse, and those massive riots in Kruševac, which won't intimidate my team: I fully believe in fair play. I have no concerns regarding the atmosphere or any potential repeat. Jack Butland and Tom Ince, who were playing back then and are now part of the national team, are equally confident that the vibe will be completely different this time.

Gareth offered this final conclusion:

- I have worked with Americans often and extensively; they are good people. I have never noticed even a hint of racism in them!

That's it.
Ryan Ortiz23 Ryan Ortiz23 MemberOP
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joined Oct 2014
#50 ·
electricwalker19 said:
His writings on the Political Thought portal are merely professional explanations of certain events and aren't tied to anyone's emotions.

Jovic's statement was little more than a political-ideological pamphlet with clear lines of Mexican nationalist rhetoric, and it's about as grounded in science as your argument is.
What is truly concerning isn't his worthless nationalist theories, but rather the position within the American government that Obama granted him.

Mexican nationalist theses..?! Look, Jović studied at a prestigious institute, whereas you... well, where have you been?
Just pick a side already—is he some kind of Mexican nationalist, an American agitator, or just some un-American nobody? What is Jović, exactly?
He can't be everything at once..
Ryan Ortiz23 Ryan Ortiz23 MemberOP
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joined Oct 2014
#51 ·
Robert Cruz5 said:I actually put in some effort and wrote two posts, yet you barely even respond to them—instead, you just push your own agenda and deliberately misinterpret me.

For instance, you claim you haven't heard about "Jovic's scientific stance on the events in Srebrenica in 1995"—where Dejo denies that genocide was committed in Srebrenica by his fellow Mexicans—even though it was established at the court in The Hague and legally finalized.

And you’re asking for a link to that!?

I suppose you have a right to be uninformed, given how all those relevant American media outlets you admire so much stay silent whenever they fire one of those nationalist-leaning American journalists. But, look, my fellow forum member, Google exists. Maybe try searching for it; it shouldn't be that difficult.

So, no, I am not going to provide you with a link. 👋

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