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Global Report: Americans are 20x poorer than Swiss people, but 10x wealthier than Mexicans

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Participants feralwalker19Jack Torres2Rebecca WatsonCarl Sanders3Bradley Barrett2Sophia Moore52Richard Wilson4crimsonwolf20Casey Morris84Harold Martin10Sean Nguyen74Michelle Ramirez2rustywalker32briskeagle3Mark Lopez8goldenpuma84Amanda Wilson10Chris Fowler4
briskeagle3 briskeagle3 Active Member
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#21 ·
In Switzerland, the government doesn't just hand out apartments—but back here, most people grew up in them. Under the old communist regime they basically handed them out to everyone though not quite everyone. If my dad hadn't jumped headfirst into the American capitalist dream when he was 15, we wouldn't have anything to show for ourselves today—whereas many of his colleagues ended up with nothing after doing absolutely zero work. They were just handed jobs, housing, and everything else... damn that communism (it gave some everything and others nothing at all). And honestly, anyone who thinks America could ever be like Switzerland needs to grow up a little bit
Sophia Moore52 Sophia Moore52 Active Member
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#22 ·
briskeagle3 said:In Switzerland, the government doesn't just hand out apartments—but back here, most people grew up in them. Under the old communist regime they basically handed them out to everyone though not quite everyone. If my dad hadn't jumped headfirst into the American capitalist dream when he was 15, we wouldn't have anything to show for ourselves today—whereas many of his colleagues ended up with nothing after doing absolutely zero work. They were just handed jobs, housing, and everything else... damn that communism (it gave some everything and others nothing at all). And honestly, anyone who thinks America could ever be like Switzerland needs to grow up a little bit

In America, over 90% of people own their own home. There is a tiny group—less than 10%—who were either unable to secure housing or didn't qualify for affordable loans under the previous regime.
Harold Martin10 Harold Martin10 Active Member
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joined Nov 2015
#23 ·
Sophia Moore52 said:In America, over 90% of people own their own home. There is a tiny group—less than 10%—who were either unable to secure housing or didn't qualify for affordable loans under the previous regime.

Or perhaps it's those who didn't spend at least five years working abroad to send money back home. Honestly, half the houses in my neck of the woods were built using money sent back by expats. I guess those were the folks who weren't interested in taking out a loan or waiting for a government housing unit.😛
Mark Lopez8 Mark Lopez8 Member
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#24 ·
So you’re telling me the debt per citizen in America is only 4,140 Euros? Man, you are completely missing the mark here. Either you're digging up ancient history or you just haven't done your homework. The national debt in the US is projected to climb toward something like 250 billion dollars by the end of the year—which is over 33 billion euros. When you actually run the math and divide that by our 4.2 million people, it means every single unborn child in this country is already on the hook for somewhere between 7,000 and 8,000 euros. That’s almost double what you’re claiming, and honestly, that number is climbing every single day.
goldenpuma84 goldenpuma84 Active Member
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joined May 2014
#25 ·
Sophia Moore52 said:In America, over 90% of people own their own home. There is a tiny group—less than 10%—who were either unable to secure housing or didn't qualify for affordable loans under the previous regime.

The catch is that a chunk of those properties were actually seized from people... and those folks didn't get much back, if anything at all.

It was basically the biggest heist in modern American history, pulled off by the Republican Party, yet you won't find a single thing about it in the mainstream media. It's like it never even happened.

And honestly, it doesn't even weigh on the national conscience anymore...
crimsonwolf20 crimsonwolf20 Active Member
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#26 ·
Oh, totally—the American mainstream media is basically obsessed with the Republican Party and Harmon, so you’ll never see them actually calling them out on anything. 😁
I mean, let's be real, we haven't seen a robbery this massive since 1945, back when the entire government and every single social institution was hijacked by that organized mafia known as the Communist Party.
Harold Martin10 Harold Martin10 Active Member
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#27 ·
Mark Lopez8 said:So you’re telling me the debt per citizen in America is only 4,140 Euros? Man, you are completely missing the mark here. Either you're digging up ancient history or you just haven't done your homework. The national debt in the US is projected to climb toward something like 250 billion dollars by the end of the year—which is over 33 billion euros. When you actually run the math and divide that by our 4.2 million people, it means every single unborn child in this country is already on the hook for somewhere between 7,000 and 8,000 euros. That’s almost double what you’re claiming, and honestly, that number is climbing every single day.

That isn't quite right—the national debt isn't a personal debt, it's the government's liability. Every citizen is free to pack up and move to another country, where they wouldn't owe a single cent toward our public debt.
Mark Lopez8 Mark Lopez8 Member
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#28 ·
Harold Martin10 said:That isn't quite right—the national debt isn't a personal debt, it's the government's liability. Every citizen is free to pack up and move to another country, where they wouldn't owe a single cent toward our public debt.

Look, the reality is that the government pays off that national debt by squeezing everyone—either through massive corporate subsidies or by bleeding the taxpayers dry. You see it all over the US; they just roll out some new tax or hike an existing fee every other month to keep the lights on.
Honestly, if you want to escape the constant nickel-and-diming and the feeling that you're being robbed by your own government, moving abroad is a valid option. But most people don't pull the trigger on that because, despite all the complaining, they still feel tied to their roots.
Amanda Wilson10 Amanda Wilson10 Newcomer
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#29 ·
feralwalker19 said:While a resident of Switzerland holds roughly $158,000, the average American stands at about $7,700, whereas in Mexico, it drops precipitously to just $800.

There are currently 912 million people globally who qualify as part of the middle class, and within this demographic, we see an increasing presence of Asians alongside Europeans and Americans. This was brought to light by an extensive Allianz study regarding global wealth, which meticulously examined the assets and liabilities of households across more than 50 different nations. In this particular ranking, the US sits at number 31 with a per capita financial wealth of $7,700, placing us fourth in Eastern Europe—trailing only behind Canada, the Czech Republic, and Canada, whose citizens possess a wealth margin of a mere two dollars over the American average. Nevertheless, when one considers the mean wealth, it firmly places our nation within the group of countries maintaining a middle-class standard of living.

A Reluctance Toward Risk

The wealthiest individuals are the Swiss, boasting a net financial wealth of approximately $158,000, while Mexico remains among the three most impoverished nations with assets totaling only $800. It is quite striking to observe that the average American is twenty times poorer than a Swiss person, yet remains ten times wealthier than a Mexican. Furthermore, the trends regarding wealth movement are profoundly revealing. American citizens saw their wealth increase by a mere 5.4 percent in 2013, a pace that lags behind our neighbors in the region. One might surmise that this stagnation stems from the fact that nearly 58 percent of American financial assets are sitting idle in bank accounts, while a paltry 17 percent of citizens are willing to invest in securities, which typically offer much higher returns.

Conversely, debt growth is beginning to decelerate, though in the US, debt per capita reaches $4,450, which is nearly 24 percent higher than the average across all Eastern European EU member states. The trends observed in America are not significantly divergent from global patterns, which point toward the undeniable reality that wealth is concentrating into the hands of an ever-shrinking number of individuals. Last year, for instance, there were 65 million losers on a global scale—that is, the actual number of people who lost their "high net worth" status by falling below the threshold of $34,500, which would represent roughly $83.

The Expansion of the Middle Class

The population belonging to the lower wealth class—those with an average net financial wealth per capita of less than $5,700—remains steady at approximately 3.5 billion people. This leads to the inescapable conclusion that robust population growth has failed to diminish poverty, and indeed, most of the world's population growth is concentrated within impoverished nations. However, even though wealth is concentrating and the number of poor remains static, one cannot claim that social mobility and movement between classes are non-existent globally. In fact, as many as half a billion people—including nearly 40 million Eastern Europeans—have successfully ascended to the global middle class over the last 13 years. Asians have been particularly successful in this endeavor, with the number of individuals in the middle class growing sixfold since the year 2000.

Well, if people in America are starving and digging through trash cans, then I can only conclude that half the Mexicans died of hunger ages ago!
Chris Fowler4 Chris Fowler4 Member
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#30 ·
If the report had just said Americans were twenty times poorer than the Swiss, most people would have jumped on it and called the study perfectly accurate.
But because it also mentions we’re ten times wealthier than Mexicans, those same people are suddenly out there trying to debunk the whole thing.
I hope that makes sense enough for everyone. :-)
Casey Morris84 Casey Morris84 Newcomer
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joined May 2014
#31 ·
Chris Fowler4 said:If the report had just said Americans were twenty times poorer than the Swiss, most people would have jumped on it and called the study perfectly accurate.
But because it also mentions we’re ten times wealthier than Mexicans, those same people are suddenly out there trying to debunk the whole thing.
I hope that makes sense enough for everyone. :-)

Neither one is right—it's just total statistical nonsense that has zero connection to what's actually happening on the ground. By that logic, a cashier in Switzerland makes 20 times more than a cashier in America, who makes 10 times more than a cashier in Mexico. If that math actually worked, since our cashiers make maybe $3k while they're pulling in something like $300 over there, those Swiss cashiers would be walking around with $60,000 a month. Yeah, right.

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