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Do you live up to other people's expectations, and are you okay with the consequences?

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Carl Rivera43 Carl Rivera43 VeteranOP
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#1 ·
So, let me see if I can clear this up a bit for everyone.

When we talk about those people we consider close—the ones we actually trust—there’s almost always an underlying set of expectations they have for us, right?

Can anyone ever truly be prepared for those demands? And why is it that sometimes we cave to things that aren't good for us, yet other times we end up turning down opportunities that are actually amazing?

Does a person even dare to sit down and really deconstruct why someone else's goals or expectations—which might actually be pretty similar to our own—matter so much?

And why does it feel so scary to go looking for solutions sometimes, especially when you've been burned before?

Are we sometimes willing to overshare or reveal way too much about ourselves just because we're desperate to justify why we're meeting—or failing to meet—someone else's standards?
Ronald Jones Ronald Jones Active Member
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#2 ·
This is an interesting topic. 🙂

Trying to live up to everyone else's expectations—whether it’s coming from your parents, your professors, or your friends—is an exhausting uphill battle. You can never satisfy everyone, but then again... Why even bother trying??? It seems to me that most people just set the bar far too high for others. They expect you to follow a specific script, a single version of what "socially acceptable" looks like. But is that actually what we want for ourselves? I highly doubt it. At some point, you're inevitably going to fall short of someone else's standards. And honestly? You don't have to meet them. Your mistakes belong to you alone. They aren't the failures of your parents, your friends, or your acquaintances... You are the one who pays the price for your own errors. Ultimately, it's your own mistakes that hurt the most, not the judgment of those around you. People tend to be far too quick to judge, often lacking any real empathy for the struggles others face. That's just the way life works. 😳 ☕
Ronald Jones Ronald Jones Active Member
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#3 ·
He ends up settling for "bad moves" simply because he lacks the actual capacity to pull off what he truly desires. He just doesn't have the nerve for it. When I say "bad moves," I mean the things he doesn't actually want right now, even if they sound like the responsible thing to do. Decisions he fundamentally doesn't want to make in the moment.

I think it’s quite common for a person to constantly weigh their own desires against how society expects them to behave in certain situations.

There is this fear of seeking out real solutions because... well, if everyone who made the same choice I’m considering ended up failing miserably, then it feels safer not to make that mistake. It’s an error that’s visible from a mile away, yet the urge to commit it still lingers. It ultimately comes down to a lack of courage and inner strength.

Not necessarily. 😳 ☕
Aaron Campbell47 Aaron Campbell47 Member
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#4 ·
Carl Rivera43 said:So, let me see if I can clear this up a bit for everyone.

When we talk about those people we consider close—the ones we actually trust—there’s almost always an underlying set of expectations they have for us, right?

Can anyone ever truly be prepared for those demands? And why is it that sometimes we cave to things that aren't good for us, yet other times we end up turning down opportunities that are actually amazing?

Does a person even dare to sit down and really deconstruct why someone else's goals or expectations—which might actually be pretty similar to our own—matter so much?

And why does it feel so scary to go looking for solutions sometimes, especially when you've been burned before?

Are we sometimes willing to overshare or reveal way too much about ourselves just because we're desperate to justify why we're meeting—or failing to meet—someone else's standards?


When you're young, inexperienced, and haven't quite found your footing, even a solid upbringing can only take you so far in keeping your head above water. That kind of readiness mostly comes from years of trial and error, self-discovery, and just navigating the world. It’s like building muscle; the more you work on yourself and figure out what actually fits your life, the more those external expectations naturally filter themselves out. You end up only keeping the ones that help you grow. If an expectation doesn't serve you or just keeps you stuck in a rut, there's no point in trying to meet it.
Some people settle for bad situations simply because they lack the drive or the energy to step outside their comfort zone. Staying with the "devil you know" is easier than facing change, so they fall into conformity just to keep things simple. On the flip side, we often run into moral dilemmas where we pass up something genuinely good because we're playing the long game—trying to guess if sacrificing something now will pay off later, whether that's based on reality or just wishful thinking.
We tend to repeat the same patterns because, well, that's just how we're wired. Our actions trigger emotions, and eventually, we get hooked on those emotional loops, whether they're positive or negative.
Aaron Campbell47 Aaron Campbell47 Member
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#5 ·
When you're young, inexperienced, and haven't quite found your footing, it’s tough. Even with a solid upbringing, staying on track isn't always easy. That kind of readiness really only comes with time—through self-reflection and actually getting out there into the world. The more you work on yourself and figure out what truly fits your life, the more those external expectations naturally fade away. You stop chasing things that don't serve you, leaving only the goals that actually help you grow. If an expectation doesn't benefit us, we shouldn't be chasing it; otherwise, we're just spinning our wheels or actively hurting ourselves.
Some people settle for things that aren't good for them simply because they lack the drive or the strength to step outside their comfort zone. It's easier to stick with the familiar, even if it's toxic, which leads to a cycle of conformity where nothing ever changes. But then you hit those moral crossroads where you have to decide whether to sacrifice something good now because you think it'll pay off later—even if that payoff is just wishful thinking rather than a sure thing.
We end up repeating the same old patterns because, honestly, that's just how we're wired. Our actions trigger emotions, and eventually, we become addicted to those feelings, whether they're positive or negative.
Carl Rivera43 Carl Rivera43 VeteranOP
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#6 ·
That endless loop we find ourselves stuck in—you could almost call it a hamster wheel—is, if you ask me, just a collection of deep-seated habits that are incredibly stubborn to break.

Is it possible that trying to do too much too fast just leads to total burnout?

How much can a person actually do for themselves without crossing the line into being selfish or narcissistic?

And honestly, in an era where "being too busy" has become a weirdly popular status symbol, how is anyone supposed to actually work on themselves and build better connections with others?
William Stewart5 William Stewart5 Newcomer
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#7 ·
It’s a bit of everything, really... a mix of old habits and circumstances that push us toward choices we didn't actually want to make. From where I'm sitting—and this is just my take—we spend way too much energy trying to please everyone else. We’ve basically trained people to expect us to be doormats because we can't shake that nagging guilt if we even *think* about prioritizing our own needs. We’re terrified someone might hold it against us. But here's the kicker: everyone we're trying to satisfy has their own agendas, desires, and expectations—and there's no shame in admitting that, or even expecting them to be upfront about it. They’ll tear you apart emotionally while pulling you in ten different directions at once. You can't win with everyone. And the second you fail to meet their standards? Suddenly, you’re worthless—as if you never did a single thing for them in the first place. Ideally, we’d just separate emotion from logic, but let's be real—that's easier said than done. (Unless, of course, you're a career politician).
Dennis Jackson38 Dennis Jackson38 Member
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#8 ·
I have to disagree. In my view, the expectations of others shouldn't carry any weight at all in our decision-making process.

It is perfectly natural for those close to us to wish us well or to express how they would personally prefer to be treated, but attempting to force ourselves to adhere to someone else's arbitrary standards just to please them is complete nonsense. It’s a concept built on a foundation of hypocrisy; after all, individuals should prioritize meeting their own internal standards rather than demanding that everyone else bends to satisfy their personal whims.

Once we are talking about adults, there is simply no obligation to do anything for anyone else.

Of course, when you factor in children and the complexities of parenting, the entire equation becomes much more nuanced and difficult to navigate.
William Stewart5 William Stewart5 Newcomer
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#9 ·
You've got a point, Dennis Jackson38—but let's be real, hitting your own goals solo is a grind. It’s just way easier to expect someone else to do the heavy lifting... which eventually leaves you stuck in this frustrating "either-or" loop: either your dreams stay dreams, or you end up being hypocritical and selfish by expecting others to deliver them for you. Sadly, that's just how it plays out. The world would be a much better place if people weren't so self-centered and driven by pure ego, right? I'm speaking broadly here, though. I actually jumped into this debate because I'm one of those outsiders—not part of the hypocritical crowd. That's why everyone tries to pull me toward their own side—parents, friends, acquaintances... it's constant. I feel like everyone treats me like some kind of doormat, assuming my entire job is just catering to their every whim. But once you start down that path, you get swarmed like nothing else. I'd love to change, but man, it is hard.
Austin Nelson2 Austin Nelson2 Member
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#10 ·
Carl Rivera43 said:So, let me see if I can clear this up a bit for everyone.

When we talk about those people we consider close—the ones we actually trust—there’s almost always an underlying set of expectations they have for us, right?

Can anyone ever truly be prepared for those demands? And why is it that sometimes we cave to things that aren't good for us, yet other times we end up turning down opportunities that are actually amazing?

Does a person even dare to sit down and really deconstruct why someone else's goals or expectations—which might actually be pretty similar to our own—matter so much?

And why does it feel so scary to go looking for solutions sometimes, especially when you've been burned before?

Are we sometimes willing to overshare or reveal way too much about ourselves just because we're desperate to justify why we're meeting—or failing to meet—someone else's standards?


Those closest to us hold expectations.
We are conditioned toward these expectations... often from a very young age.
Some will simply comply and do what is expected—even if it is against their own will.
Others will squeeze and demand for an entire lifetime (which is precisely where one must learn to stand up for oneself).
I cannot provide an answer to this last point. Frequently, a person remains silent, believing their moment hasn't arrived—though that moment may never come unless they decide to advocate for themselves. I find it distasteful when someone expects too much, treating another person as if they were a mere tool meant to be sacrificed for someone else's sake.
Everything ought to remain within reasonable bounds; a balance must be established.
Anthony Davis72 Anthony Davis72 Member
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#11 ·
In childhood, you're essentially just a vessel for everyone else's expectations—after all, a kid doesn't really have a rational sense of what they want yet. Then you hit adolescence, where hormones take the wheel and throw everything out of balance, leaving you still largely stuck trying to please others. It isn't until you hit that 20-to-25-year window that most people finally start forming their own goals and can actually tell everyone else to go screw themselves. Yet, somehow, even after that supposed breakthrough, plenty of "Mamin" and Dad's boys stay trapped in that cycle of living for other people.
redtrucker10 redtrucker10 Newcomer
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#12 ·
They aren't meeting any expectations, man; they've only been on the job for a year.
Edward Fisher86 Edward Fisher86 Active Member
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#13 ·
Ronald Jones said:This is an interesting topic. 🙂

Trying to live up to everyone else's expectations—whether it’s coming from your parents, your professors, or your friends—is an exhausting uphill battle. You can never satisfy everyone, but then again... Why even bother trying??? It seems to me that most people just set the bar far too high for others. They expect you to follow a specific script, a single version of what "socially acceptable" looks like. But is that actually what we want for ourselves? I highly doubt it. At some point, you're inevitably going to fall short of someone else's standards. And honestly? You don't have to meet them. Your mistakes belong to you alone. They aren't the failures of your parents, your friends, or your acquaintances... You are the one who pays the price for your own errors. Ultimately, it's your own mistakes that hurt the most, not the judgment of those around you. People tend to be far too quick to judge, often lacking any real empathy for the struggles others face. That's just the way life works. 😳 ☕

I think it all comes down to whether those expectations are actually grounded in reality or if they're just pure delusion.

It’s perfectly reasonable to expect a sibling or a close friend to bring you some Gatorade when you're stuck in bed with the flu.

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