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Using politics as an escape from reality

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Participants velvetfalcon52Charles Lopez3Jessica Kelly4urbanorca8Jack Torres2Sophia Moore52
velvetfalcon52 velvetfalcon52 MemberOP
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#1 ·
Hello to everyone on this subforum.

Since I wasn't quite sure where this topic would fit best, I decided to drop it here in Politics. I have this feeling that the folks on this forum tend to be the most reliable voices. Now, I know how much people here either love or absolutely loathe politics... but I’m really just hoping for some objectivity...

Anyway,

the question is, does an average person actually have the chance to: a) stay right here in the US
b) move abroad, following the money wherever it leads...

Well, regarding option a)... to be honest, I think that comes down to politics. Personally, I'm starting to believe that if you want to be successful in this country, you almost have to be dishonest—you know, playing the game, maybe even dealing with political connections or stuff like that (and by success, I don't mean anything crazy, just a better life, a higher standard of living, etc.).

As I was saying, being a great engineer doesn't seem to amount to much if you aren't leveraging those political ties or similar avenues...

And then there's option b): moving overseas, trying to assimilate, working hard, and just living more comfortably...

I'd love to hear your thoughts. How difficult is it, given all the intense competition out there, to actually build those connections or get a foot in the door politically to improve your situation? Or, conversely, how hard is it to move abroad and build a decent career, perhaps settling into a solid middle-class life and living well...

I suspect that option a) might actually be even harder, though I suppose moving abroad isn't for everyone either. For me, at least, the idea of starting over in a foreign country feels pretty daunting.

Thanks.
Charles Lopez3 Charles Lopez3 Active Member
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#2 ·
c) just hanging out in Times Square,
strolling right past their houses
and apartments.


honestly the best
and easiest way to handle this.
Jessica Kelly4 Jessica Kelly4 Active Member
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#3 ·
There’s a whole landscape of small and mid-sized companies here in America that actually turn a profit while treating their staff right. The media elite just doesn't see any reason to cover them. Your idea that you have to be shady to succeed isn't true.

That’s not to say things are perfect in the States, either. The political bureaucracy has basically suffocated this country, and I haven't the slightest clue how to break free from that stranglehold. In a twisted way, I almost find myself rooting for a total collapse—a bankruptcy so absolute it forces a complete system reset and finally kills this widespread apathy.
velvetfalcon52 velvetfalcon52 MemberOP
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#4 ·
Charles Lopez3 said:c) just hanging out in Times Square,
strolling right past their houses
and apartments.


honestly the best
and easiest way to handle this.


I guess I’ve never been in favor of that approach, and I don't think I ever will be; I suppose you just have to put in the work.

Jessica Kelly4 said:There’s a whole landscape of small and mid-sized companies here in America that actually turn a profit while treating their staff right. The media elite just doesn't see any reason to cover them. Your idea that you have to be shady to succeed isn't true.

That’s not to say things are perfect in the States, either. The political bureaucracy has basically suffocated this country, and I haven't the slightest clue how to break free from that stranglehold. In a twisted way, I almost find myself rooting for a total collapse—a bankruptcy so absolute it forces a complete system reset and finally kills this widespread apathy.


I suppose I agree to an extent.

But, I feel like the issue isn't really about making something; the real struggle is selling it, or rather, the distribution side of things.

I mean, you could theoretically "produce" 1,000 units of anything today, but then you're left wondering who is actually going to buy them and at what price point.

In my view, the only real option is looking toward international markets, but then again... everyone expects to get their slice of the pie.

If we're being realistic, I guess politics has certainly helped plenty of people climb the ladder.
Charles Lopez3 Charles Lopez3 Active Member
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#5 ·
velvetfalcon52 said:I guess I’ve never been in favor of that approach, and I don't think I ever will be; I suppose you just have to put in the work.

I suppose I agree to an extent.

But, I feel like the issue isn't really about making something; the real struggle is selling it, or rather, the distribution side of things.

I mean, you could theoretically "produce" 1,000 units of anything today, but then you're left wondering who is actually going to buy them and at what price point.

In my view, the only real option is looking toward international markets, but then again... everyone expects to get their slice of the pie.

If we're being realistic, I guess politics has certainly helped plenty of people climb the ladder.

😁

Option C)
- is the first major prerequisite if we want anything to actually happen.

There is also a second one,
but man, that one is pretty damn loud.☕
urbanorca8 urbanorca8 Member
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#6 ·
Honestly, I’m starting to think an economic collapse would actually do America a favor—it might finally clear out all those parasites holding this country back from actually moving forward.
Jack Torres2 Jack Torres2 Member
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#7 ·
I suppose you could say that alcohol acts as a sort of little escape from reality, if you think about it that way
Charles Lopez3 Charles Lopez3 Active Member
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#8 ·
Jack Torres2 said:I suppose you could say that alcohol acts as a sort of little escape from reality, if you think about it that way

escape from reality,
more like an escape into pure stupidity!
😁
velvetfalcon52 velvetfalcon52 MemberOP
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#9 ·
urbanorca8 said:Honestly, I’m starting to think an economic collapse would actually do America a favor—it might finally clear out all those parasites holding this country back from actually moving forward.

Which parasites are we even talking about here?

I suspect the gap between the ruling elite and the average American will only end up getting wider.
urbanorca8 urbanorca8 Member
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#10 ·
velvetfalcon52 said:Which parasites are we even talking about here?

I suspect the gap between the ruling elite and the average American will only end up getting wider.

You can never really tell what's coming next.

Which parasites?
I mean those bureaucrats sitting in government offices—the ones who drag their feet on paperwork or block people from legally using agricultural crops and stuff like that.
Sophia Moore52 Sophia Moore52 Active Member
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#11 ·
urbanorca8 said:You can never really tell what's coming next.

Which parasites?
I mean those bureaucrats sitting in government offices—the ones who drag their feet on paperwork or block people from legally using agricultural crops and stuff like that.

Not a chance. It’ll be just like what happened in Greece—selling off our national assets, laying off the hardworking blue-collar folks, while the wealthy get even richer by profiting from that fire sale of everything we own...

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