Conservative plan to tackle the crisis

Henry Myers3 said:You aren't a true conservative because you clearly don't grasp political theory or what a modern GOP platform actually looks like. You were raised on the leftovers of the old socialist era, and you probably only claim to be right-wing because of family ties to the old guard while viewing any opposition as pure treason. That’s all there is to it. ☕

It’s pretty wild to see someone spouting nonsense when they don't even know who I am or where I'm coming from. Maybe try introducing yourself first before you start lecturing me. You honestly don't have the slightest clue what defines the right wing or what our actual goals are.

cosmicotter13 said:

I suppose we’re finally at this point. The "demon" has arrived. Or perhaps it was always here, lurking in the periphery of our collective consciousness, waiting for the right moment of instability to manifest itself fully. It’s almost poetic, isn't it? In a grim, nihilistic sort of way. One can't help but wonder what triggered this specific descent. Is it the systemic decay of our institutions? The sheer, unadulterated chaos of modern life? Or is it something more primal—something buried deep within the American psyche that we've spent decades trying to ignore with consumerism and cheap distractions? It feels like watching a slow-motion train wreck where the passengers are too busy checking their phones to notice the tracks have been pulled up miles back. We talk about progress, about moving forward, yet we seem perpetually haunted by these recurring shadows. It’s exhausting. Truly. You try to build something stable, something meaningful, and then... *this*. The demon appears, and suddenly the foundation looks a lot more like sand than granite. Is anyone actually surprised? I find myself asking that more often than I care to admit. Most people act shocked when the inevitable occurs, as if they didn't see the storm clouds gathering on the horizon for years. It’s a peculiar kind of American denial. We stare directly into the sun and then complain about the glare. The user says:
Well, let's be real... if you actually look at what a true right-wing platform would entail, we're talking about a massive, powerful state. I mean, think about it. You’d see tax rates for workers climbing, while corporate profits get slashed. And here’s the kicker—those companies wouldn't even have to pay taxes on their earnings if they were actually putting that money back into the economy by hiring more people. It’s a concept, isn't it? A real, functional idea.

Cut out those damn luxuries. Honestly, how much did you actually manage to squirrel away? If you tucked enough into savings, you’d actually have something to show for it. But without that cushion? You’re just sitting there waiting for the government to hand you the absolute bare minimum. We wouldn't even be talking about actual cash at that point—it would just be food stamps. Just vouchers for groceries and nothing else. That's the reality.

Housing and pensions for veterans? Please. It’s all just subsidies—handouts that would disappear the moment the budget takes a hit. And those specialized VA hospitals? They’d probably start cutting beds and slashing funding faster than you can blink if the money runs dry. It's all conditional. Everything is tied to the bottom line. If the treasury says "no," the support vanishes. Typical.

Maternity benefits? Honestly, they shouldn't even exist. Or if they did, they should be purely symbolic at best. I mean, think about it—why on earth would anyone choose to just sit around, have kids, and live off the system? It’s absurd. And then you have the people actually out there grinding, working their tails off, and they're the ones stuck footing the bill for it all. It makes zero sense.

Elementary school? Mandatory. High school? Not necessarily. As for universities—those elite institutions—they’d be paying full price, plain and simple. We’d need a robust scholarship system in place to actually incentivize the brilliant and the driven, rather than just subsidizing mediocrity. No more "eternal students" drifting through academia for a decade without ever contributing anything to society. The average person wouldn't even bother with college unless they had parents wealthy enough to bankroll their degree. If you're born into poverty in this country, forget about higher education... unless, of course, you possess some truly exceptional, undeniable talent. Otherwise, the gate stays closed.

They’d just hike up the budget for the military and the police, obviously. Throw more money at those massive state development projects... you know, the kind that actually move the needle. Instead of bleeding cash into pensions, social welfare, or the crumbling healthcare and school systems—money that just disappears into a black hole—they’d redirect it all toward paying off the interstate highways. Imagine that. If we actually cleared the debt on the interstates, they could be completely free for everyone to use. Just imagine driving without constantly reaching for your wallet.

Now, listen... the true-blue conservatives? They’d sign this in a heartbeat. But those so-called "right-wingers" who’ve spent their whole lives wrapped up in this bloated social safety net system—they wouldn't touch it with a ten-foot pole. They aren't actually conservative; they're just comfortable. ☕

I mean, sure, there are all sorts of right-wingers out there, but this whole package? No way. I wouldn't dream of signing off on this if I were part of any American patriotic right-wing movement. Let’s look at the facts, shall we? Old-age pensions, health insurance, workers' comp, even laws banning child labor—all of that was actually introduced by Otto von Bismarck. And let me tell you, that man certainly wasn't some bleeding-heart leftist. Far from it. It was about the welfare and the health of his own nation. It was about justice, stability, and ensuring the future of the population. It's just common sense, really.

It isn’t exactly a stroke of genius—nor is it particularly wise—to suffocate the workforce with crushing taxes just to ensure they live in a state of perpetual discontent. If you strip away their ability to actually buy anything, you end up with a population that can't even function as decent consumers. What's the point?

Social Security benefits ought to be indexed to previous earnings—it’s common sense—but they also need to actually be decent and fair. We can't just let people starve in their old age. And look, if we want this whole system to stay solvent, we have to fix the employment situation. We need a massive, broad tax base of active workers contributing to the pot; you can't run a fund with a shrinking pool of contributors. But more importantly? We need to stop the bleeding from these bureaucratic absurdities. It’s pure madness. Why on earth should the Social Security Administration be burdened with honoring service credits for certain rebel Mexicans during the occupation? They didn't contribute a single cent to the American funds back then. It's nonsense. Absolute nonsense. You can't claim the rewards of a system you never helped build.

Aside from the CIA, you’ve got housing for veterans and then there's nothing. Just... nothing. Look, I’m not CIA, nor am I some former camp inmate, so based on that alone, I can't even qualify for a basic loan, let alone get my hands on an apartment. It's all just a closed loop.

The birth rate of the American people... it’s got to be a top priority for the patriotic right. Period. We shouldn't even be debating whether maternity and paternity benefits are "too much"—that's nonsense. Instead, we should be looking at how to expand those rights even further. It’s just common sense. And frankly, it's only fair that someone who hasn't had children—yet expects, quite presumptuously, that other people's kids will fund their Social Security or change their diapers in a nursing home one day—should be the one footing the bill. A youthful population isn't just a social good; it’s an absolute engine for the economy. You need workers. You need consumers. Without them, everything just... stalls.

Primary and secondary education? Mandatory. Non-negotiable. But higher ed... that’s where the government needs to actually start thinking ahead. They should be planning based on actual labor needs and footing the entire bill—I mean the full price—for the specific specialists we actually require. We’re talking tuition, housing, supplies, meals... the whole nine yards. And if the state is paying for those professionals, they shouldn't just be allowed to drift wherever they please. The government could direct those graduates to work in any corner of America, and they would be obligated to serve here for at least twice the duration of their schooling. It’s only fair. The alternative is students paying the full market rate themselves. If you pay your own way, fine. Once you have that degree in hand, you’re a free agent. Work, don't work, move to another state... do whatever you want. But there’s a massive ethical gap here. When a nation is facing a crisis, and every single worker—every farmer, every laborer—is essentially subsidizing the training of, say, a doctor, they expect that doctor might actually show up when things get dire. It is fundamentally unacceptable for those people to pay for a specialist's education only to watch that person take their diploma and flee to another country immediately. It's a betrayal of the social contract.

The federal budget needs a massive, urgent purge of pure stupidity. We’re hemorrhaging cash on niche minority subsidies, "cultural" vanity projects, blatant corruption, political party handouts, luxury perks, and endless diplomatic fluff. It's madness. Now, investing in our military—modernizing equipment, ensuring our troops actually have decent living standards—yes, absolutely. But throwing billions into foreign "missions" and fighting someone else's wars? Absolutely not. We need to focus on domestic infrastructure: highways, switching to a vignette system, cutting the bloated bureaucracy, and making things affordable for actual Americans while letting tourists pay their fair share.

Now, this is something I could actually get behind; there are some really serious points here.🙂

Honestly, America is basically a hyper-leftist state with tax rates that are just plain absurd. It’s a nightmare for anyone trying to run a business—you can't even let an unproductive employee go without getting slammed in court, where the workers almost always walk away with the win. For decades now, they’ve been "fixing" unemployment by basically pushing young people straight toward retirement age. It’s this insane social policy that’s eventually going to come crashing down on us. We are drowning in debt right now, debt we have absolutely no way of paying back, and most of our family heirlooms were probably sold off years ago just to keep up. Our real tragedy is that when communism was being dismantled here, it wasn't done by reformers, but by the old-school communists and the secret police. Those leftists completely ruined the place for us.

I don’t really see America as a left-wing country, even if the current administration leans that way. People voted for them because they were tired of the tyranny coming from those "right-wing centrists"—they thought this change would actually shake things up, but honestly, they feel pretty let down by the results. In my view, most Americans are fundamentally patriotic; we want what’s best for ourselves and our families, which naturally extends to wanting what's best for the country. Being a patriot doesn't mean you automatically align with the far right, though I suspect many in power would probably prefer to see a solid Democratic alternative on the scene.

Mark Lopez8 said:Honestly, America is basically a hyper-leftist state with tax rates that are just plain absurd. It’s a nightmare for anyone trying to run a business—you can't even let an unproductive employee go without getting slammed in court, where the workers almost always walk away with the win. For decades now, they’ve been "fixing" unemployment by basically pushing young people straight toward retirement age. It’s this insane social policy that’s eventually going to come crashing down on us. We are drowning in debt right now, debt we have absolutely no way of paying back, and most of our family heirlooms were probably sold off years ago just to keep up. Our real tragedy is that when communism was being dismantled here, it wasn't done by reformers, but by the old-school communists and the secret police. Those leftists completely ruined the place for us.

What's highlighted doesn't even apply in San Diego anymore. Nowadays, you get fired for stealing something worth pennies. And the CEO? He just ignores collective bargaining agreements by decree, and the courts actually back him up.

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Meanwhile, the owner is legally gutting the company just to build himself villas:

Lawrence Rodriguez11 said:I don’t really see America as a left-wing country, even if the current administration leans that way. People voted for them because they were tired of the tyranny coming from those "right-wing centrists"—they thought this change would actually shake things up, but honestly, they feel pretty let down by the results. In my view, most Americans are fundamentally patriotic; we want what’s best for ourselves and our families, which naturally extends to wanting what's best for the country. Being a patriot doesn't mean you automatically align with the far right, though I suspect many in power would probably prefer to see a solid Democratic alternative on the scene.

An option like this: http://danielebarbieri.files.wordpre...news_73790.jpg

Not like this:

When I talked about Christian democracy, I didn't mean that the clergy or the Church should just do whatever they want without any accountability or special privileges. To me, Christian democracy means having a state with a government that actually respects our traditions and honors the faith of the people, rather than demonizing it the way the current administration does.

The solution is straightforward:
1. A full purge and restructuring of the intelligence agencies to ensure they actually serve the interests of America.
2. Drastic budget cuts targeting unnecessary expenditures—things like legacy veteran pensions, the former president's office, various special interest groups, and parasitic organizations like the Chamber of Commerce.
3. Territorial reorganization to reduce the number of local government units...
4. Implementing much stricter hiring criteria for public service positions and state-owned enterprises.

steellynx91 said:The solution is straightforward:
1. A full purge and restructuring of the intelligence agencies to ensure they actually serve the interests of America.
2. Drastic budget cuts targeting unnecessary expenditures—things like legacy veteran pensions, the former president's office, various special interest groups, and parasitic organizations like the Chamber of Commerce.
3. Territorial reorganization to reduce the number of local government units...
4. Implementing much stricter hiring criteria for public service positions and state-owned enterprises.

That sounds like a solid plan to me.

Over in Germany, they operate under this social market economy model that basically functions like this:
- it ensures that if you lose your job, you’re still pulling in a salary roughly equal to what you were making before for about a year
- it grants you free access to all public services, and even throws in heavily discounted retreats for your annual vacation
- it allows the homeless population to live according to their own whims (since, frankly, they wouldn't even be unhoused if society weren't wealthy enough to provide otherwise)

Ultimately, it all boils down to a collective consensus regarding our priorities—do we want everyone to share in the prosperity, or should wealth be reserved for a tiny elite while the rest of us struggle just to scrape by... or perhaps sell our souls for pennies... It’s a fundamental choice. If we can't manage to achieve the level of affluence seen in Germany, then one might argue there's no point in having a state at all; let people have whatever rights or services they can personally afford, and if they can't, well, they can simply starve. Of course, the wealthy would possess everything regardless, but I fear that the delicate fabric of our society—which is already stretched incredibly thin by the widening gap between the haves and the have-nots—would tear completely. And once that happens, unrest is inevitable.

The real issue isn't necessarily those few opportunists trying to game the system for social benefits, but rather the individuals who possess no desire to work at all—people who wouldn't contribute anything even if the government handed them everything on a silver platter—because instead, they'd rather resort to theft or some other form of antisocial behavior...

Conservatives tend toward primitivism by default—though it seems the urban primitives are actually the leftists in charge. Then you have the leftists, the traitors, and the general idiots. The establishment. Basically, it’s a zero across the board no matter how you slice it. Americans just aren't up to the task; much like how a dysfunctional family can't function, we can't maintain a state. Or, if a family is messy and raw, the root cause might be alcoholism, while in a country, it’s something else entirely. What? Figure it out yourselves.