#961 ·
Can someone walk me through depreciation? Like, for write-offs... do I log those costs through KPI first (just noting the payment method as non-KPI), then manually enter the amount into P-PPI? Or am I overthinking it?
Started by ruggedheron13 · · 👁 106 views · 2.2K replies
Susan Cruz48 said:Look, if we're treating card transactions like cash, it just doesn't make sense to log them as bank deposits. And even if you did go that route, the commission should be recorded right there in the bank deposits as a negative entry. Personally, I just put those amounts under cash receipts.
Brenda Chase3 said:As for the processing fees, I book those as non-cash adjustments—similar to how one might handle a discount, since it functions quite similarly. It’s not like actual money hit our bank account, nor did we pay the fee through a separate wire transfer; instead, we simply offset the total amount received by deducting the fee upfront. Following the guidance from our financial advisor, we treat these as non-cash items. This is the method we've used for years when submitting our summaries to the IRS, and it has always been perfectly acceptable. If we didn't do this, we'd constantly be stuck explaining discrepancies between our bank statements and our reported income to tax auditors. By handling it this way, our cash deposits and our bank totals align perfectly with the merchant statements provided to the IRS.
Keith Martinez5 said:That actually makes sense to me, and I think I'll start doing the same thing—but wait, are you recording it as an expense in kind rather than income? To my mind, it feels a little counterintuitive to treat a bank commission—something that's effectively a cost to you—as actual income.
Brandon Jackson4 said:I’m looking for some clarification regarding the OPZ STAT filing.
I have some outstanding receivables from regular individuals—just private citizens, not business owners.
As I understand it, under US tax regulations, I’m not required to collect their Social Security numbers.
So, here’s my dilemma: what do I enter on the OPZ STAT form when I don't have an SSN, which wasn't even necessary to include on the original invoice?
I saw a post on the forum a while back where shadowdrifter99 mentioned we don't need to list an SSN on receipts for private individuals.
My question is... what should I actually input into the form?
Brenda Chase3 said:You would just list everything related to private citizens under Section III.
Brenda Chase3 said:You actually record both the expense and the income in kind for the amount of the commission.
Think of it this way: let's say your invoice is for $33. A credit card processor pays $27 into your business checking account, but they take their commission of $6.75 first. At the exact same time, you receive an invoice from them for that $6.75 fee, which you don't actually pay out of pocket because you simply offset it against the lower amount they deposited.
You clear the IRA $27 via your bank account (since the transaction shows that specific net amount hitting your books), but you clear the $6.75 in kind because the invoice is for $33; you can't just ignore the total value of the bill.
At the same time, you close out their URU for $6.75 in kind. It’s essentially a classic offset, except instead of having a formal debit memo statement, you just book everything so that the IRA and the URU perfectly cancel each other out.
Keith Martinez5 said:That makes sense, but here's my dilemma: I don't receive the consolidated commission invoice until the end of the month for the total amount, yet every single card transaction carries a different fee. How do you actually track that day-to-day? Theoretically, I get the logic, but how do you pull this off in practice?
Henry Edwards33 said:🤣
That’s exactly where I struggle. My shop handles multiple card types, installment plans, all that jazz... it's basically Mission Impossible to keep it straight. Honestly, I’ve tried everything, and it just doesn't work for me.
On top of that, the processing fees always seem to vanish into thin air because some companies send two statements a month—one shows up now, and the next one might not arrive for another couple of months.
I finally decided to just close out the card accounts immediately so I don't end up owing the IRS anything. To be honest, I couldn't care less about the hassle.😁
amberbadger17 said:I basically treat my credit card reconciliation like some kind of DIY scrapbook project.
I just pull the statements from my online banking, print out everything for the period, and then manually log all the transactions—recording the actual deposits against the ledger while treating those pesky fees as "in-kind" income.
Look, sure, I’m technically making the numbers look a little... creative, but whatever. 😁
cosmictinker24 said:The following should be attached to the tax return:
Form P-PPI and
Schedule V, which details business receipts and expenditures.
Regarding pass-through items and misapplied credits—should those be recorded under section 2.5, "Other Unspecified Income," since they aren't technically taxable receipts for the P-PPI form? Or maybe they belong somewhere else within this Schedule V for business receipts and expenditures? I guess it's unclear.
Brandon Jackson4 said:On Form P-PPI, you put pass-through items and all non-taxable receipts under section 2.5. For Schedule V, you don't actually enter anything there... the form itself doesn't provide a space for it.
amberbadger17 said:I’ve been using Wells Fargo’s online banking, so I can just hop on there whenever I need to print out my statements for a specific timeframe.