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Accounting for Sole Proprietors: Tax & Bookkeeping Tips

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Keith Martinez5 Keith Martinez5 Active Member
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#1741 ·
placidlynx92 said:The general rule is that anything which significantly bumps up the value of your fixed assets gets capitalized. In your specific situation, though—given you're just fixing up a rental—it looks more like standard maintenance to me. I'd say go ahead and book them as current expenses, but a word of advice: make sure you keep the invoices for both the materials and the actual labor. If an auditor decides to take a closer look, you don't want to be caught without proof that the work was actually performed.

But what happens if you're doing all the work yourself? For example, I bought a massive amount of supplies and booked them directly as expenses, but I don't have any labor invoices to show for it because my husband—who also runs our sole proprietorship—did all the actual manual labor... how on earth do you prove that during a potential audit?
Taylor Campbell4 Taylor Campbell4 Regular
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#1742 ·
Question:
Do small business owners operating under the simplified tax system need to break down their invoices to show individual items, the specific amount of sales tax, and the subtotal before tax?

Or is it acceptable to just present it like this example here?

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feralnomad35 feralnomad35 Member
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#1743 ·
Taylor Campbell4 said:Question:
Do small business owners operating under the simplified tax system need to break down their invoices to show individual items, the specific amount of sales tax, and the subtotal before tax?

Or is it acceptable to just present it like this example here?

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Value Added Tax Act
Since we're talking about exempt transactions here, you really just need to show the total compensation amount on the invoice.

So, you don't have to worry about any of that sales tax math; you just list the final total and include a little note explaining why it's exempt and citing the specific section of the law that covers it.
feralnomad35 feralnomad35 Member
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#1744 ·
Thomas Diaz8 said:We recently took over a lease on some commercial space, and since the bathroom was in a state of total disrepair, we went ahead and renovated it. I am trying to determine how to handle the accounting for the renovation costs—specifically the ceramic tiles, the fixtures, the adhesive, and all the other materials used. I suppose I am wondering whether these expenses can be recorded as current operating costs, or if they must be capitalized as intangible long-term assets?

From what I gather, you’d likely have to book that as an improvement to someone else's property since it "significantly enhances the functional capacity of the asset." You’d basically split it into two piles: things that are separate from the building itself and things that aren't. Then, you'd just depreciate it at a maximum rate of 40% per year.

The real headache pops up if you end up moving out before you’ve managed to fully depreciate those non-separable improvements. According to how the IRS usually looks at things, you wouldn't be able to claim the remaining balance as a tax-deductible expense at that point. To play it safe, I’d highly recommend making sure your lease agreement includes a clause where the landlord reimburses you for any unamortized investment costs if you have to vacate the premises early.

That’s how you’d handle it if you want to follow the rules to a T.
Taylor Campbell4 Taylor Campbell4 Regular
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#1745 ·
What exactly needs to be included in the tax reform act and related filings if you aren't even dealing in cash—just strictly cashless transactions? Does anyone happen to have a template or a sample document I could look at?
David Mitchell4 David Mitchell4 Active Member
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#1746 ·
Just Google internal documents. You can find plenty of examples on the web.
Taylor Campbell4 Taylor Campbell4 Regular
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#1747 ·
There's an option, but it doesn't quite fit this specific scenario—you know, the one where you're dealing with no internet connection to the IRS, or maybe you don't have a dedicated payment terminal and aren't sure what to list as the device used. Also, I was wondering if there's a specific note required to indicate that we're strictly cashless and only accepting payments via bank transfers.
Taylor Campbell4 Taylor Campbell4 Regular
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#1748 ·
I was actually wondering about the same thing regarding those small business owners on the simplified tax schedules—if anyone here has experience with that or knows the deal... 🙂
analogfox63 analogfox63 Member
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joined Jun 2017
#1749 ·
I’m also curious about this setup—selling online, no physical warehouse, and handling payments through direct bank transfers. How does the tax reform act apply to someone in my position? Do I need to comply with specific regulations regarding invoice formats, or is there more to it? Also, what happens once I start accepting credit cards? Since card payments are treated similarly to cash transactions, how does that change things?
neonsurfer13 neonsurfer13 Active Member
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#1750 ·
I finally switched over to online card payments, but I’m still staying completely hands-off when it comes to actual cash since everything lands directly in my business checking account. My accountant told me I needed to draft some kind of formal declaration about how the money flows and take it down to the IRS. So, that's exactly what I did. The folks at the office took it without any issues, so I'm assuming everything is squared away.
analogfox63 analogfox63 Member
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#1751 ·
I went down to the IRS office the other day... the clerk there just stared at me like I was speaking a foreign language when I mentioned my online store.
analogfox63 analogfox63 Member
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#1752 ·
I actually went down to the IRS office... and the clerk there just stared at me like I was speaking a foreign language when I mentioned running a web shop. 😵
And this isn't even like I live in some tiny rural town..
Taylor Campbell4 Taylor Campbell4 Regular
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#1753 ·
neonsurfer13 said:I finally switched over to online card payments, but I’m still staying completely hands-off when it comes to actual cash since everything lands directly in my business checking account. My accountant told me I needed to draft some kind of formal declaration about how the money flows and take it down to the IRS. So, that's exactly what I did. The folks at the office took it without any issues, so I'm assuming everything is squared away.

Well, look, if you're taking card payments (unless you're using PayPal), you're technically required to follow the tax reform act, as far as I can tell. It’s like nobody bothered to read the Treasury Department's brochures on e-commerce regulations.

My own accountant tells me I don't even need a specific disclaimer stating I'm exempt from those digital transaction requirements.

I'm just stuck on what to list as my "point of sale" device. I'm guessing I should just put "laptop" followed by the specific model number?

Also, regarding receipts—if I'm emailing them out, am I still required to print hard copies, or is keeping digital files on my computer sufficient?
neonsurfer13 neonsurfer13 Active Member
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#1754 ·
I only take payments through direct bank transfers right now, but since I just added the option to accept credit cards exclusively through my website, I wasn't sure if I needed to deal with sales tax registration or formal point-of-sale reporting for those transactions. So, I hit up my accountant to see if I actually need a register.
He told me he’s dealt with plenty of businesses in this exact spot. Apparently, you just have to file a formal statement explaining that you don't need a physical register because everything is processed online via bank transfers.
I took that paperwork down to the local IRS office myself. The clerk read through it and gave me a nod, basically saying they’d filed it. To be honest, I don't think she actually knew what she was looking at either, but hey, it should be fine.
Taylor Campbell4 Taylor Campbell4 Regular
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#1755 ·
As far as I know, credit card transactions have to be reported through the standard IRS tax reporting systems, which means an online store needs to integrate its software directly with those federal requirements—but honestly, I’ve never had to deal with that specific setup myself, so I can't speak to the technicalities. That said, I wouldn't want to go out on a limb and say your accountant and office manager were wrong; they probably know their stuff better than I do, even if I'm certainly no expert here.

Here's what Google shows— https://www.google.com/search?client=...est&gws_rd=ssl

I just remembered something—I think there was some talk (even in the industry brochures) about potentially lifting those digital reporting requirements for e-commerce sites. I haven't been keeping up with the latest legislative updates, though, so I'm not sure if that actually happened. At the start of this year, complying with those rules was definitely mandatory.
neonsurfer13 neonsurfer13 Active Member
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#1756 ·
I brought this up with my accountant, but they just brushed me off. They told me I should handle it exactly like this because some massive corporation does it the same way and hasn't run into any issues.
That’s easy for them to say, since I’m the one not seeing any of that cash.
On top of that, I don't even process credit cards through my own web shop. My site is basically just an order form. Once someone places an order, they get sent a link and all the payment info, then they go through a secure portal hosted by a major third-party processor like Stripe or PayPal to actually pay.
David Mitchell4 David Mitchell4 Active Member
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joined Apr 2011
#1757 ·
Card payments count as cash. At least, that’s what the law says. I wouldn't exactly take a clerk's word for it if I were you...
Carol Price4 Carol Price4 Regular
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#1758 ·
neonsurfer13 said:I brought this up with my accountant, but they just brushed me off. They told me I should handle it exactly like this because some massive corporation does it the same way and hasn't run into any issues.
That’s easy for them to say, since I’m the one not seeing any of that cash.
On top of that, I don't even process credit cards through my own web shop. My site is basically just an order form. Once someone places an order, they get sent a link and all the payment info, then they go through a secure portal hosted by a major third-party processor like Stripe or PayPal to actually pay.

My accountant is talking nonsense—credit card sales definitely fall under tax reporting rules, and that's clearly stated in the law and all the official guidelines. You won't see any issues until the IRS shows up at your door, and once they do, you're looking at a massive fine—thousands of dollars, easily—so then we'll see how "no problem" it was...
Taylor Campbell4 Taylor Campbell4 Regular
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joined Jul 2009
#1759 ·
Does anyone know,
from what I've gathered, if the billing address differs from the delivery destination, the invoice is required to specify the delivery location.

When we talk about the "place of delivery" here, are we referring to the actual physical drop-off point or the tax-defined place of supply?
For example, let's say a shipment is traveling from Germany to Washington, D.C. A client in D.C. paid a company based here in the USA for the order, but I actually ordered it from a supplier in Germany and then issued the invoice to the client in D.C. Physically speaking, the delivery spot would be Washington, D.C.,
but from a tax perspective, the place of supply might technically be Germany—assuming I haven't hit my registration threshold yet, so it’s taxed in Germany since I'm not part of the local sales tax system.

So, which one should I actually list on my invoice???
neonsurfer13 neonsurfer13 Active Member
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joined May 2007
#1760 ·
Carol Price4 said:My accountant is talking nonsense—credit card sales definitely fall under tax reporting rules, and that's clearly stated in the law and all the official guidelines. You won't see any issues until the IRS shows up at your door, and once they do, you're looking at a massive fine—thousands of dollars, easily—so then we'll see how "no problem" it was...

Great, so now I have to deal with tax reporting for every single card swipe... luckily I haven't had anyone pay by card yet; it's all just direct transfers to my business account so far.
I need to figure out how to categorize these transactions since I run two different businesses out of the exact same office space. I don't have walk-in customers paying at a counter; everything comes through bank transfers one way or another. Because of that, I don't even own a card reader or a POS terminal, at least not in the physical sense.

How am I supposed to format the invoice numbers for payments made online—specifically through the web forms on the PayPal site?

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