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briskskipper27 briskskipper27 MemberOP
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Islamic fanatics in Syria have launched a full-scale campaign to wipe out priceless archaeological treasures. We’re talking Byzantine mosaics, Greek sculptures, Roman statues—all gone because they depict human figures, which clashes with their radical ideology.
Reports suggest this systematic destruction of ancient history is likely the worst case of cultural genocide we've seen since the Taliban blew up those Buddha statues in Bamyan back in 2001 for the exact same religious reasons.
In mid-January, ISIS militants—basically Taliban-style extremist gangs holding large chunks of northeastern Syria—targeted a 6th-century Byzantine mosaic near the city of Raqqa by the Euphrates River.
Word is, some businessman from Turkey actually showed up in town hoping to buy the mosaic. But these extremists didn't even know the thing existed until they stumbled upon it; instead of selling it, they just used explosives to level it. Now, it's just dust.
http://freethinker.co.uk/2014/02/14/...ing-destroyed/
casualdriver9 casualdriver9 Newcomer
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#2 ·
briskskipper27 said:Islamic fanatics in Syria have launched a full-scale campaign to wipe out priceless archaeological treasures. We’re talking Byzantine mosaics, Greek sculptures, Roman statues—all gone because they depict human figures, which clashes with their radical ideology.
Reports suggest this systematic destruction of ancient history is likely the worst case of cultural genocide we've seen since the Taliban blew up those Buddha statues in Bamyan back in 2001 for the exact same religious reasons.
In mid-January, ISIS militants—basically Taliban-style extremist gangs holding large chunks of northeastern Syria—targeted a 6th-century Byzantine mosaic near the city of Raqqa by the Euphrates River.
Word is, some businessman from Turkey actually showed up in town hoping to buy the mosaic. But these extremists didn't even know the thing existed until they stumbled upon it; instead of selling it, they just used explosives to level it. Now, it's just dust.
http://freethinker.co.uk/2014/02/14/...ing-destroyed/


It isn't just ISIS doing this; Al-Nusra, the Islamic Front, and several other factions are involved too. There isn't much difference between them since they are all driven by Salafist ideology, fueled by Saudi and Qatari petrodollars, and backed by Western political support in the fight against Bashar al-Assad.

It is truly tragic what is happening to the cultural and historical heritage of that region. But honestly, you can't expect anything else from people who don't value human life at all, where killing someone is as easy as saying hello.
Kimberly Barrett3 Kimberly Barrett3 Newcomer
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casualdriver9 said:It isn't just ISIS doing this; Al-Nusra, the Islamic Front, and several other factions are involved too. There isn't much difference between them since they are all driven by Salafist ideology, fueled by Saudi and Qatari petrodollars, and backed by Western political support in the fight against Bashar al-Assad.

It is truly tragic what is happening to the cultural and historical heritage of that region. But honestly, you can't expect anything else from people who don't value human life at all, where killing someone is as easy as saying hello.

I just hope they don't tear down some historic landmark like the Golden Gate Bridge or something similar, only to patch it back together with cheap concrete like a bunch of amateurs who have no eye for design. Honestly, forget those tacky mosaics.☕
Jack Alvarez25 Jack Alvarez25 Newcomer
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Kimberly Barrett3 said:I just hope they don't tear down some historic landmark like the Golden Gate Bridge or something similar, only to patch it back together with cheap concrete like a bunch of amateurs who have no eye for design. Honestly, forget those tacky mosaics.☕

I mean, honestly, that bridge just kind of collapsed on its own accord, mostly because the construction crews clearly had no clue what they were doing when it came to the actual terrain, the materials, or even the local climate conditions you absolutely need to account for when building something like that. If you don't know the land, I guess you should probably just go ask the locals who have lived there forever, right? Though, I suppose I should give them some credit for how long it actually held up. It probably would have lasted a few more years too, if it weren't for those HVO guys stepping in to clear out the danger and prevent the whole thing from coming down and causing a total disaster.
Joshua Diaz18 Joshua Diaz18 Member
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#5 ·
briskskipper27 said:Islamic fanatics in Syria have launched a full-scale campaign to wipe out priceless archaeological treasures. We’re talking Byzantine mosaics, Greek sculptures, Roman statues—all gone because they depict human figures, which clashes with their radical ideology.
Reports suggest this systematic destruction of ancient history is likely the worst case of cultural genocide we've seen since the Taliban blew up those Buddha statues in Bamyan back in 2001 for the exact same religious reasons.
In mid-January, ISIS militants—basically Taliban-style extremist gangs holding large chunks of northeastern Syria—targeted a 6th-century Byzantine mosaic near the city of Raqqa by the Euphrates River.
Word is, some businessman from Turkey actually showed up in town hoping to buy the mosaic. But these extremists didn't even know the thing existed until they stumbled upon it; instead of selling it, they just used explosives to level it. Now, it's just dust.
http://freethinker.co.uk/2014/02/14/...ing-destroyed/

That whole Salafist ideological gang doesn't care about history; they’re just busy tearing down any monument of Islamic culture that doesn't fit neatly into their narrow little theories.
I’ve been staring at this mess for a while now, trying to make sense of the absolute chaos unfolding in the Middle East, and honestly, it feels like watching a slow-motion train wreck where nobody is even bothering to pull the brakes. You look at the situation in Syria and it’s just one endless loop of misery and shifting allegiances that makes you wonder if anyone actually has a plan beyond just surviving the next twenty-four hours. It’s like trying to organize a massive, disorganized riot in the middle of downtown Chicago during a blizzard—everyone is shouting, everyone is fighting, and nobody is actually going anywhere. The way these various factions, from the remnants of the Islamic Front to the local groups under Bashar al-Assad, scramble for every inch of dirt is exhausting to watch. It isn't just about territory; it's about a complete lack of any central logic. You have groups like Al-Nusra playing their own games while ISIS continues to act like a dark shadow over everything, and meanwhile, the international community seems to be treating the whole thing like a distant tragedy they can just mute on their TV screens. It reminds me of those old noir films where the detective realizes the entire city is crooked from the top down to the gutters, and there's no single villain to catch because the corruption is baked into the very pavement. We talk about "stability" and "solutions" in Washington, but how do you apply a band-aid to a wound that's deep enough to swallow a skyscraper? It’s all just noise and dust, and frankly, it leaves you feeling pretty cynical about the idea that any of this is moving toward anything resembling peace.
I was scrolling through some old archives and stumbled upon this piece about how certain cities try to position themselves as the "Mecca" of their respective regions, and it really gets me thinking about how much branding matters in this world. It’s like when a mid-sized city in the Midwest tries to reinvent itself as the next Austin or Nashville just by slapping a few trendy coffee shops on the corner—they’re chasing a spiritual or cultural gravity that they haven't actually earned yet. You see it everywhere, from urban planning to political movements; everyone is desperately trying to claim they are the epicenter, the holy grail, the one true destination that everyone else should be gravitating toward. It’s an exhausting cycle of manufactured importance, where the identity of a place isn't built on its history or its soul, but on how loudly it can shout about its own significance. People crave that sense of being at the center of something meaningful, so they build these elaborate myths to convince themselves and the rest of the world that they aren't just another dot on the map.

For some reason, the author of this piece completely avoids being direct, opting instead to hide behind those massive, sweeping generalizations you're so fond of using—it makes me wonder why they're dodging the point like that. What’s your take on it?

Let me give you a clear metaphor here: it’s like if I started calling Nazis "Christian fanatics" or a "Christian gang," simply because they emerged from within the Christian cultural sphere and were backed by the Catholic Church and the Pope at the time—not to mention every single bishop from Germany to Austria—back when they were busy tearing down Slavic monuments across Poland, Slovakia, and the Czech Republic.

Look, you really ought to go out and educate yourself a little bit so you can actually take that one small step away from the shadow of all this propaganda.
Joshua Diaz18 Joshua Diaz18 Member
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Jack Alvarez25 said:I mean, honestly, that bridge just kind of collapsed on its own accord, mostly because the construction crews clearly had no clue what they were doing when it came to the actual terrain, the materials, or even the local climate conditions you absolutely need to account for when building something like that. If you don't know the land, I guess you should probably just go ask the locals who have lived there forever, right? Though, I suppose I should give them some credit for how long it actually held up. It probably would have lasted a few more years too, if it weren't for those HVO guys stepping in to clear out the danger and prevent the whole thing from coming down and causing a total disaster.

Person 1: It was just worn down by the American rains.

Person 2: And who actually benefits from this?

Person 1: Us.
Zachary Roberts Zachary Roberts Newcomer
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#7 ·
What can you even expect from people who go around slashing heads in the streets? I saw a video the other day of them harassing some girl... just pure, unadulterated horror. Honestly, I think they just use religion as an excuse. At their core, these guys are just thugs and criminals.
Then you’ve got the ones who lost someone in the US Army or over in Russia. They come from nothing—just struggling, impoverished neighborhoods. For them, war and revenge are basically the only things they know how to do.
It’s ugly, and it feels like everything is just spiraling downward.
steelpanther722 steelpanther722 Member
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#8 ·
briskskipper27 said:Islamic fanatics in Syria have launched a full-scale campaign to wipe out priceless archaeological treasures. We’re talking Byzantine mosaics, Greek sculptures, Roman statues—all gone because they depict human figures, which clashes with their radical ideology.
Reports suggest this systematic destruction of ancient history is likely the worst case of cultural genocide we've seen since the Taliban blew up those Buddha statues in Bamyan back in 2001 for the exact same religious reasons.
In mid-January, ISIS militants—basically Taliban-style extremist gangs holding large chunks of northeastern Syria—targeted a 6th-century Byzantine mosaic near the city of Raqqa by the Euphrates River.
Word is, some businessman from Turkey actually showed up in town hoping to buy the mosaic. But these extremists didn't even know the thing existed until they stumbled upon it; instead of selling it, they just used explosives to level it. Now, it's just dust.
http://freethinker.co.uk/2014/02/14/...ing-destroyed/

As long as this Illuminati-style West allows Saudi Arabia and Qatar (those ecumenists from small-town America 🤣) to fund these Islamist fascists—and we see this happening in Ukraine too with support for neo-Nazis—this cycle will just keep repeating itself.
Carol Anderson2 Carol Anderson2 Newcomer
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#9 ·
It’s just like when the Taliban in Afghanistan went and mined that ancient Buddha statue back in the day—something that was probably 3,000 years old—during a time when Islam wasn't even close to being sane..

We need to shut these idiots down in Syria..!
Joshua Diaz18 Joshua Diaz18 Member
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Carol Anderson2 said:It’s just like when the Taliban in Afghanistan went and mined that ancient Buddha statue back in the day—something that was probably 3,000 years old—during a time when Islam wasn't even close to being sane..

We need to shut these idiots down in Syria..!

You’re conveniently glossing over a massive reality check here—the fact that 1,400 years of Islamic rule didn't leave a single scratch on those Budha statues in Afghanistan until the Taliban showed up and decided to play wrecking ball.

Carol Anderson2 said:It’s just like when the Taliban in Afghanistan went and mined that ancient Buddha statue back in the day—something that was probably 3,000 years old—during a time when Islam wasn't even close to being sane..

We need to shut these idiots down in Syria..!

Same goes for Christianity.

Bjorn Asbjorn said:
We need to stop these idiots in Syria..!

Is that supposed to be some kind of catchy slogan?
You might as well say we should wipe out hunger and everything else under the sun...

When it comes to "stopping idiots," the smartest move would actually be addressing the root causes that create them in the first place; there's really no point in just treating the symptoms while the disease keeps spreading...
rapidbear65 rapidbear65 Active Member
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Joshua Diaz18 said:You’re conveniently glossing over a massive reality check here—the fact that 1,400 years of Islamic rule didn't leave a single scratch on those Budha statues in Afghanistan until the Taliban showed up and decided to play wrecking ball.

Same goes for Christianity.

Is that supposed to be some kind of catchy slogan?
You might as well say we should wipe out hunger and everything else under the sun...

When it comes to "stopping idiots," the smartest move would actually be addressing the root causes that create them in the first place; there's really no point in just treating the symptoms while the disease keeps spreading...

I mean, I really have to point out that nobody even touched those statues until the Taliban showed up. You can tell pretty clearly from the text who’s actually willing to step up... Honestly, the whole reason these "idiots" exist is because of the Quran. Now, whether they're interpreting it right or wrong? Who knows...
David Clark David Clark Newcomer
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steelpanther722 said:As long as this Illuminati-style West allows Saudi Arabia and Qatar (those ecumenists from small-town America 🤣) to fund these Islamist fascists—and we see this happening in Ukraine too with support for neo-Nazis—this cycle will just keep repeating itself.

Exactly. It's all the Zionists' fault. Did you forget about them? How could you possibly overlook that?

And honestly, "idiots" exist because of the Quran, the Bible, and pretty much every other religion out there. Heck, they probably exist because of an international cookbook, too.
Nicole Barrett76 Nicole Barrett76 Regular
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briskskipper27 said:Islamic fanatics in Syria have launched a full-scale campaign to wipe out priceless archaeological treasures. We’re talking Byzantine mosaics, Greek sculptures, Roman statues—all gone because they depict human figures, which clashes with their radical ideology.
Reports suggest this systematic destruction of ancient history is likely the worst case of cultural genocide we've seen since the Taliban blew up those Buddha statues in Bamyan back in 2001 for the exact same religious reasons.
In mid-January, ISIS militants—basically Taliban-style extremist gangs holding large chunks of northeastern Syria—targeted a 6th-century Byzantine mosaic near the city of Raqqa by the Euphrates River.
Word is, some businessman from Turkey actually showed up in town hoping to buy the mosaic. But these extremists didn't even know the thing existed until they stumbled upon it; instead of selling it, they just used explosives to level it. Now, it's just dust.
http://freethinker.co.uk/2014/02/14/...ing-destroyed/

It is fundamentally incompatible with their primitive minds. Is it not true that every statue and every image that is not intended for worship must be left untouched and neglected according to the Quran?

briskskipper27 said:Islamic fanatics in Syria have launched a full-scale campaign to wipe out priceless archaeological treasures. We’re talking Byzantine mosaics, Greek sculptures, Roman statues—all gone because they depict human figures, which clashes with their radical ideology.
Reports suggest this systematic destruction of ancient history is likely the worst case of cultural genocide we've seen since the Taliban blew up those Buddha statues in Bamyan back in 2001 for the exact same religious reasons.
In mid-January, ISIS militants—basically Taliban-style extremist gangs holding large chunks of northeastern Syria—targeted a 6th-century Byzantine mosaic near the city of Raqqa by the Euphrates River.
Word is, some businessman from Turkey actually showed up in town hoping to buy the mosaic. But these extremists didn't even know the thing existed until they stumbled upon it; instead of selling it, they just used explosives to level it. Now, it's just dust.
http://freethinker.co.uk/2014/02/14/...ing-destroyed/

In Bamyan, what we truly witnessed was a personal vendetta by the mastermind behind those crimes against the UN. Since the UN sought to protect those monuments while failing to provide much-needed aid to the starving population there, the leader ordered the destruction of the statues out of sheer defiance. I am certainly not justifying such an act, yet can one not understand it when considering the broader context?
Joshua Ward12 Joshua Ward12 Newcomer
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Jack Alvarez25 said:I mean, honestly, that bridge just kind of collapsed on its own accord, mostly because the construction crews clearly had no clue what they were doing when it came to the actual terrain, the materials, or even the local climate conditions you absolutely need to account for when building something like that. If you don't know the land, I guess you should probably just go ask the locals who have lived there forever, right? Though, I suppose I should give them some credit for how long it actually held up. It probably would have lasted a few more years too, if it weren't for those HVO guys stepping in to clear out the danger and prevent the whole thing from coming down and causing a total disaster.

The Star Most wasn't brought down by the HVO. There was actually a scientific study presented at The Hague that proved it. Ever since then, people from the eastern side have just stayed quiet about the whole thing.
You can find the details of that study in the records regarding Slobodan Praljko.
Joshua Ward12 Joshua Ward12 Newcomer
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Joshua Diaz18 said:That whole Salafist ideological gang doesn't care about history; they’re just busy tearing down any monument of Islamic culture that doesn't fit neatly into their narrow little theories.
I’ve been staring at this mess for a while now, trying to make sense of the absolute chaos unfolding in the Middle East, and honestly, it feels like watching a slow-motion train wreck where nobody is even bothering to pull the brakes. You look at the situation in Syria and it’s just one endless loop of misery and shifting allegiances that makes you wonder if anyone actually has a plan beyond just surviving the next twenty-four hours. It’s like trying to organize a massive, disorganized riot in the middle of downtown Chicago during a blizzard—everyone is shouting, everyone is fighting, and nobody is actually going anywhere. The way these various factions, from the remnants of the Islamic Front to the local groups under Bashar al-Assad, scramble for every inch of dirt is exhausting to watch. It isn't just about territory; it's about a complete lack of any central logic. You have groups like Al-Nusra playing their own games while ISIS continues to act like a dark shadow over everything, and meanwhile, the international community seems to be treating the whole thing like a distant tragedy they can just mute on their TV screens. It reminds me of those old noir films where the detective realizes the entire city is crooked from the top down to the gutters, and there's no single villain to catch because the corruption is baked into the very pavement. We talk about "stability" and "solutions" in Washington, but how do you apply a band-aid to a wound that's deep enough to swallow a skyscraper? It’s all just noise and dust, and frankly, it leaves you feeling pretty cynical about the idea that any of this is moving toward anything resembling peace.
I was scrolling through some old archives and stumbled upon this piece about how certain cities try to position themselves as the "Mecca" of their respective regions, and it really gets me thinking about how much branding matters in this world. It’s like when a mid-sized city in the Midwest tries to reinvent itself as the next Austin or Nashville just by slapping a few trendy coffee shops on the corner—they’re chasing a spiritual or cultural gravity that they haven't actually earned yet. You see it everywhere, from urban planning to political movements; everyone is desperately trying to claim they are the epicenter, the holy grail, the one true destination that everyone else should be gravitating toward. It’s an exhausting cycle of manufactured importance, where the identity of a place isn't built on its history or its soul, but on how loudly it can shout about its own significance. People crave that sense of being at the center of something meaningful, so they build these elaborate myths to convince themselves and the rest of the world that they aren't just another dot on the map.

For some reason, the author of this piece completely avoids being direct, opting instead to hide behind those massive, sweeping generalizations you're so fond of using—it makes me wonder why they're dodging the point like that. What’s your take on it?

Let me give you a clear metaphor here: it’s like if I started calling Nazis "Christian fanatics" or a "Christian gang," simply because they emerged from within the Christian cultural sphere and were backed by the Catholic Church and the Pope at the time—not to mention every single bishop from Germany to Austria—back when they were busy tearing down Slavic monuments across Poland, Slovakia, and the Czech Republic.

Look, you really ought to go out and educate yourself a little bit so you can actually take that one small step away from the shadow of all this propaganda.

The real issue here is that Muslims have never really drawn a clear line in the sand. Honestly, people seem pretty confused right now, and half of them actually support what's going down in the Middle East in their hearts, even if they go through the motions of officially saying they don't. You see it with guys like Erdogan or Izetbegović and that whole crowd.

Plus, it feels like Muslims almost never come out and directly, loudly, or unequivocally condemn terrorist attacks. Usually, when things like that happen, there’s just this heavy silence, and everyone just sticks their heads in the sand like donkeys. There are exceptions, sure—people like you and a few others—but let’s be real, you guys are definitely in the minority.
Maria Hayes4 Maria Hayes4 Newcomer
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#16 ·
Only a bunch of mindless brats who have absolutely no concept of their own purpose in life would dare destroy archaeological sites!
Taylor Reed3 Taylor Reed3 Newcomer
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#17 ·
Well, honestly, their cell in Egypt made it pretty clear a long time ago that they were going to tear down the pyramids, so this isn't exactly a shocker... but I don't see how they can actually survive. That whole society seems way too self-destructive to last. It’s like an entire group of people has been completely stripped of any say in their own lives and is basically just being used for reproduction at this point. Some of the highly educated women are being targeted and killed right off the bat... I mean, they’d probably go after anyone with a high school diploma too if they could get away with it, though they might run out of people eventually. Everything has been stripped from the school curriculum except for studying religious texts, and then outside of class, I guess it's all about assembling AKs and watching night sessions of executions. It’s just absurd. They’ve gone so far that they even banned multiplication tables (it's like they banned basic math itself 🙂) and they only teach the most elementary stuff, which I assume is just addition and subtraction... everything else is just considered divine will. I really wonder how a society like that can even function, let alone try to conquer the world. They are consciously destroying everything and retreating into some ancient past. People love to make comparisons to the old Islamic Golden Age when things were actually progressive and contributed so much to math and astronomy—like how you could find traces of distilled spirits in Córdoba 🙂—but I guess that’s all just living in their heads now

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