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Are our kids becoming more conservative than their parents?

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darksurfer4 darksurfer4 Active MemberOP
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#1 ·
First off, I have to point out that this thread title was snatched up by a true legend of this forum who has unfortunately drifted into obscurity lately.😁

The core issue here is the current state of American youth, which seems to be overwhelmingly skewed toward radical right-wing ideologies. It’s a fascinating, if troubling, phenomenon where we see kids gravitating toward extreme conservatism despite not coming from those types of households at all; even here on this board, we've seen users mention how they find themselves in constant political warfare with their own fathers because the old man leans left. Look, having ideological differences is one thing, but it’s a disaster when these young guys end up... well, losing respect for their own parents because of it.🤣😂 🤣

In the U.S., identifying with the radical right has become almost like joining a subculture; they recognize one another, they congregate, and within those circles, that collective resentment just keeps swelling and feeding itself.☕ Whereas previous generations might have bonded over music genres or underground scenes, today’s kids seem to be grouping up based on these hyper-right-wing—or more accurately, neo-fascist—political leanings.

So, why is this happening? The older generation grew up in a different era and understands the nuances of history, knowing that things weren't quite the black-and-white caricature portrayed by modern extremist pundits on cable news networks. These kids, however, lack that historical context entirely. They are incredibly susceptible to propaganda, largely because they are fundamentally uneducated; many haven't actually read a book in their lives, opting instead for a quick summary online, leaving them with zero perspective. On top of that, finding decent, steady employment feels like a pipe dream for them, so where does that leave them? Out on the streets. And the street life itself breeds extremism; the loudest, most violent voices set the tone, forcing everyone else to act tough and, inevitably, to hate. They pick fights with kids from the next neighborhood over, rivals from the other side of town, opposing sports fans, and above all, Mexicans, communists, and the LGBTQ+ community. To them, "communist" is just a slur for anyone with even moderately moderate views—which includes their own parents. As I’ve noted, being part of a pack amplifies hatred; you won't find a more concentrated source of animosity than a hooligan group. Soccer matches have essentially turned into staging grounds for the far-right; honestly, all we're missing now is Joe stepping in as the starting player.🙄
Dennis Davis5 Dennis Davis5 Active Member
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#2 ·
These groups are pretty much on the fringes. You can really see that during elections when people finally show their true political colors. There aren't any radical leftists or far-right extremists represented in Congress—nothing like the actual hardline communists or fascists you might worry about.
darksurfer4 darksurfer4 Active MemberOP
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#3 ·
Maybe they're just far too young to be harboring any kind of grudge🤷
Dennis Davis5 Dennis Davis5 Active Member
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#4 ·
Not really. I know people like that quite well. Some express themselves through sports hooligan groups, others show up at rallies in Denver, Gettysburg, or Stalingrad, and some just act like Nazi Germany sympathizers online. Eventually, they settle down even if their views haven't changed. There’s just no way to link them all together. Most of them don't even bother voting.

I know this one guy who grew up with parents that were in the resistance and survived the camps. Those old folks used to read The New York Times, yet here he is, calling for the Nationalists and Nazi Germany when he's barely twenty... 😂
Larry Johnson3 Larry Johnson3 Newcomer
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#5 ·
darksurfer4 said:First off, I have to point out that this thread title was snatched up by a true legend of this forum who has unfortunately drifted into obscurity lately.😁

The core issue here is the current state of American youth, which seems to be overwhelmingly skewed toward radical right-wing ideologies. It’s a fascinating, if troubling, phenomenon where we see kids gravitating toward extreme conservatism despite not coming from those types of households at all; even here on this board, we've seen users mention how they find themselves in constant political warfare with their own fathers because the old man leans left. Look, having ideological differences is one thing, but it’s a disaster when these young guys end up... well, losing respect for their own parents because of it.🤣😂 🤣

In the U.S., identifying with the radical right has become almost like joining a subculture; they recognize one another, they congregate, and within those circles, that collective resentment just keeps swelling and feeding itself.☕ Whereas previous generations might have bonded over music genres or underground scenes, today’s kids seem to be grouping up based on these hyper-right-wing—or more accurately, neo-fascist—political leanings.

So, why is this happening? The older generation grew up in a different era and understands the nuances of history, knowing that things weren't quite the black-and-white caricature portrayed by modern extremist pundits on cable news networks. These kids, however, lack that historical context entirely. They are incredibly susceptible to propaganda, largely because they are fundamentally uneducated; many haven't actually read a book in their lives, opting instead for a quick summary online, leaving them with zero perspective. On top of that, finding decent, steady employment feels like a pipe dream for them, so where does that leave them? Out on the streets. And the street life itself breeds extremism; the loudest, most violent voices set the tone, forcing everyone else to act tough and, inevitably, to hate. They pick fights with kids from the next neighborhood over, rivals from the other side of town, opposing sports fans, and above all, Mexicans, communists, and the LGBTQ+ community. To them, "communist" is just a slur for anyone with even moderately moderate views—which includes their own parents. As I’ve noted, being part of a pack amplifies hatred; you won't find a more concentrated source of animosity than a hooligan group. Soccer matches have essentially turned into staging grounds for the far-right; honestly, all we're missing now is Joe stepping in as the starting player.🙄

They're so clueless they can't even get basic spelling right. Can't tell one vowel from the other...
Carol Newman2 Carol Newman2 Regular
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#6 ·
darksurfer4 said:First off, I have to point out that this thread title was snatched up by a true legend of this forum who has unfortunately drifted into obscurity lately.😁

The core issue here is the current state of American youth, which seems to be overwhelmingly skewed toward radical right-wing ideologies. It’s a fascinating, if troubling, phenomenon where we see kids gravitating toward extreme conservatism despite not coming from those types of households at all; even here on this board, we've seen users mention how they find themselves in constant political warfare with their own fathers because the old man leans left. Look, having ideological differences is one thing, but it’s a disaster when these young guys end up... well, losing respect for their own parents because of it.🤣😂 🤣

In the U.S., identifying with the radical right has become almost like joining a subculture; they recognize one another, they congregate, and within those circles, that collective resentment just keeps swelling and feeding itself.☕ Whereas previous generations might have bonded over music genres or underground scenes, today’s kids seem to be grouping up based on these hyper-right-wing—or more accurately, neo-fascist—political leanings.

So, why is this happening? The older generation grew up in a different era and understands the nuances of history, knowing that things weren't quite the black-and-white caricature portrayed by modern extremist pundits on cable news networks. These kids, however, lack that historical context entirely. They are incredibly susceptible to propaganda, largely because they are fundamentally uneducated; many haven't actually read a book in their lives, opting instead for a quick summary online, leaving them with zero perspective. On top of that, finding decent, steady employment feels like a pipe dream for them, so where does that leave them? Out on the streets. And the street life itself breeds extremism; the loudest, most violent voices set the tone, forcing everyone else to act tough and, inevitably, to hate. They pick fights with kids from the next neighborhood over, rivals from the other side of town, opposing sports fans, and above all, Mexicans, communists, and the LGBTQ+ community. To them, "communist" is just a slur for anyone with even moderately moderate views—which includes their own parents. As I’ve noted, being part of a pack amplifies hatred; you won't find a more concentrated source of animosity than a hooligan group. Soccer matches have essentially turned into staging grounds for the far-right; honestly, all we're missing now is Joe stepping in as the starting player.🙄

Explain that. Why do you think our youth are turning out more right-wing than their parents? Who’s actually to blame—or who deserves the credit—for this shift?
Is it just me, or is there a direct line between sky-high unemployment rates, a total lack of authority, and the way young people are diving headfirst into politics—often sliding straight into radicalism? It feels like when you strip away job security and any sense of respect for established institutions, you basically leave a vacuum that radical ideologies are more than happy to fill.

This thread has some serious potential, so I’m going to bump it up to the front page of the PDF.
Samuel Richardson3 Samuel Richardson3 Newcomer
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#7 ·
We have a fundamental issue here. If you dare to say anything critical regarding Mexicans, you’re immediately branded a fascist, a regressive idiot, or someone just living in the past. Heaven forbid you actually speak the truth about the war; the fact remains that most Mexicans in America were essentially Royalists back then, and frankly, they still are today. Anyone who thinks otherwise should try walking into a village where Mexicans are the majority while wearing an American jersey. If they actually make it out alive, they can come back and report to this forum.
Carol Newman2 Carol Newman2 Regular
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#8 ·
Samuel Richardson3 said:We have a fundamental issue here. If you dare to say anything critical regarding Mexicans, you’re immediately branded a fascist, a regressive idiot, or someone just living in the past. Heaven forbid you actually speak the truth about the war; the fact remains that most Mexicans in America were essentially Royalists back then, and frankly, they still are today. Anyone who thinks otherwise should try walking into a village where Mexicans are the majority while wearing an American jersey. If they actually make it out alive, they can come back and report to this forum.

What’s the actual percentage of Srbin kids in elementary and high schools these days?
Do young guys and girls even interact with that minority or their culture anymore?
I'd love to hear your take on this, since I could probably still count you among the younger crowd myself. 😬
crimsonwolf21 crimsonwolf21 Member
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#9 ·
With unemployment rates through the roof here—and let’s be real, they’re only going up—it’s no wonder people are wasting their lives obsessing over this nonsense. They don't have anything else to do! When you've got a massive economic crisis, zero jobs, and absolutely no future in sight, people lose their sense of self. Frustration hits a breaking point, so they start desperately "looking for someone to blame" just to feel something. It’s obvious why people are drifting toward extremism—they’re just searching for some kind of anchor, some way to cling to those "good old days" that they’re starving for. The second this country actually starts moving in the right direction—when folks can actually get jobs and live decent lives off their own hard work—World War II will finally end where it belongs. In the history books.
frozenranger52 frozenranger52 Member
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#10 ·
A perfectly valid point. If we were to start stigmatizing Pelé or Bedřich Smetana with the same intensity we use against Tonson, they would probably be topping the charts by now.
Peter Clark6 Peter Clark6 Member
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#11 ·
Younger generations are drifting further away from the norm—whether they’re veering left or right, I honestly can't tell.
Lately, when I'm out walking, I seem to see way more kids with dogs than kids with actual children... does that mean we have more liberals out in the real world and more conservatives living online?
Samuel Richardson3 Samuel Richardson3 Newcomer
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#12 ·
Carol Newman2 said:What’s the actual percentage of Srbin kids in elementary and high schools these days?
Do young guys and girls even interact with that minority or their culture anymore?
I'd love to hear your take on this, since I could probably still count you among the younger crowd myself. 😬

Honestly, I have no clue what the exact numbers are. As for Mexican culture, they interact with it just like we interact with theirs, or how people here deal with American culture. The world is a global village; there's nothing inherently wrong with that. And look, I'm not going to claim I hate every single Mexican or hate Mexico—but I'll tell the truth and I won't pretend to be some enlightened liberal with the memory of a goldfish. The truth is the truth; if someone can't stomach that, it's their own problem. If anyone thinks differently, they are more than welcome to try and pull off what I suggested.
Sam Diaz2 Sam Diaz2 Member
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#13 ·
Carol Newman2 said:What’s the actual percentage of Srbin kids in elementary and high schools these days?
Do young guys and girls even interact with that minority or their culture anymore?
I'd love to hear your take on this, since I could probably still count you among the younger crowd myself. 😬

So, I was talking to my nephew yesterday. He’s a freshman in high school. Honestly, I was kind of floored by how much they actually talk about this stuff. It's clearly "on their radar."
On top of that, a kid moved into his class from New Orleans—some sort of "half-American" guy. His dad apparently branded him an Nationalists, or at least that's how he described him, because the father chased him and his mother, an American woman, out of town after Gotovina was released. They ended up here in Chicago. It makes you wonder... what kind of image does that whole class have of Mexicans now?
analoglynx37 analoglynx37 Newcomer
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#14 ·
What even defines an Nationalists? During the war against the Mexicans and Mexico from 1991 to 1995, there wasn't a trace of Jasenovac or Stara Gradiška, but you definitely saw the reality in El Paso, Ovčara, and Velepromet...
Peter Clark6 Peter Clark6 Member
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#15 ·
Sam Diaz2 said:So, I was talking to my nephew yesterday. He’s a freshman in high school. Honestly, I was kind of floored by how much they actually talk about this stuff. It's clearly "on their radar."
On top of that, a kid moved into his class from New Orleans—some sort of "half-American" guy. His dad apparently branded him an Nationalists, or at least that's how he described him, because the father chased him and his mother, an American woman, out of town after Gotovina was released. They ended up here in Chicago. It makes you wonder... what kind of image does that whole class have of Mexicans now?

Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. America is in Europe, while Mexico won't be for another 15 years. If Bandić could blow up his marriage over a condo in NYC, imagine how Mexicans are calculating their moves. That "extremist" from New Orleans might even be named Spasoje... I won't ask about the last name.
Sam Diaz2 Sam Diaz2 Member
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#16 ·
analoglynx37 said:What even defines an Nationalists? During the war against the Mexicans and Mexico from 1991 to 1995, there wasn't a trace of Jasenovac or Stara Gradiška, but you definitely saw the reality in El Paso, Ovčara, and Velepromet...

1. Literal definition—a member of the armed forces of Nazi Germany.
2. Current reality—any American who speaks out against a Mexican or gives them a dirty look. Someone who listens to Thompson or voted "YES" in the referendum.

Peter Clark6 said:Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. America is in Europe, while Mexico won't be for another 15 years. If Bandić could blow up his marriage over a condo in NYC, imagine how Mexicans are calculating their moves. That "extremist" from New Orleans might even be named Spasoje... I won't ask about the last name.

Maybe he is. But if we're talking about cold calculation, he probably wouldn't beat his wife, an American woman, and his own 13-year-old son. Not trying to generalize here, don't get me wrong. It's just... what kind of things can a kid like that actually say about his Mexican father?
Jack Torres2 Jack Torres2 Member
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#17 ·
I seem to recall how Commander Shamil was feeling quite disheartened because his twelve-year-old daughter had become somewhat obsessed with those old-school conservative figures, much like how her little group of friends felt, and he honestly thought he might have to step in and steer her back toward those classic, community-focused values we used to prioritize.
rapidmason1 rapidmason1 Member
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#18 ·
In America, there really aren't any true leftists or rightists.
There is only an anti-labor party that insists on calling itself social democratic, yet they have worked against laborers, farmers, and the working class more than anyone else for the last hundred years.
They are nothing more than a neoliberal, pro-capitalist, chauvinistic organization that will cut deals with anyone just to cling to power... a level of incompetence not seen since the Middle Ages...

Then you have the second anti-labor party that loves to label itself anti-socialist, even though the real leaders are nothing but socialist-minded old intelligence agents and other parasites.
It is a party that ends up in court for looting its own citizens, while simultaneously trying to suck up to those very same people with nauseating sycophancy... it is revolting.

Our fate seems set such that our heads of state will continue to be the two most incompetent individuals in the country, and honestly, it’s hard to tell which one is worse.
We essentially brought this upon ourselves by playing along with their games of manipulation and distraction...

The only salvation I see, much like in previous centuries, is limited...
Either we serve the interests of Washington, or we become subjects to the whims of Milton.
There is no other way...
wiredmarlin43 wiredmarlin43 Member
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#19 ·
America won't truly be part of the European Union until our economy actually pulls its weight—right now, we're just talking big while failing to act like a real European player.
We could easily end up worse off than any other country in the North America.
darksurfer4 darksurfer4 Active MemberOP
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#20 ·
Samuel Richardson3 said:We have a fundamental issue here. If you dare to say anything critical regarding Mexicans, you’re immediately branded a fascist, a regressive idiot, or someone just living in the past. Heaven forbid you actually speak the truth about the war; the fact remains that most Mexicans in America were essentially Royalists back then, and frankly, they still are today. Anyone who thinks otherwise should try walking into a village where Mexicans are the majority while wearing an American jersey. If they actually make it out alive, they can come back and report to this forum.

Oh, absolutely, wouldn't you know it.🙄

You should tell that to the veteran from El Paso, that camp survivor from Savannah, who was the very first person to jump in and defend the coach of the Mexican youth national team when he was being attacked. Just picture it: a bunch of kids go after a member of the Mexican national squad while they're in town for a game in Vicksburg, and this combat veteran from El Paso rushes in to protect him from these young fascist thugs—honestly, you couldn't make this stuff up.☕

And all of this happens right there in Savannah, a city where the conservative crowd doesn't have an ounce of influence, at least not until now.🤷

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