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The New Industrial Revolution: Are we actually ready for this?

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Amanda Diaz Amanda Diaz Active Member
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joined Jan 2009
#201 ·
placidranger said:No—actually, that exact property—doubling at regular intervals—is precisely what defines exponential growth. It can be described by an exponential function with a base of two.

New industries often see exponential growth in their early stages. Just as frequently, they hit a plateau after that initial surge. That's what we call a sigmoid, or S-curve. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigmoid_function

Moore's law doesn't account for that eventual slowdown toward a plateau, though—who knows where that's headed...

I'll admit it, I was wrong.👍
Gary Perez7 Gary Perez7 Member
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joined May 2017
#202 ·
If the Fed doesn't fix this right now, they never will.

Some genius decided to move this thread from general politics over to foreign policy.
Now, it deserves to be moved straight to the fringe section.
Honestly, guys, you should just take these last few posts and turn them into a research paper; you’d probably get admitted to an asylum with the title of Professor emeritus.
I seriously need a long break from this forum.
Benjamin Taylor6 Benjamin Taylor6 Regular
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joined Apr 2017
#203 ·
David Baker2 said:Honestly, who cares about 3D printers or some niche tech hobby? That’s small-time change compared to the massive capital you'd have to sink into it.

If you want to talk about actual business—real money-making ventures where we actually have the upper hand—we need to look at what we have sitting right under our feet: hundreds of thousands of acres of untapped, fertile land and the perfect microclimates to suit almost anything.

You could launch a full-scale startup with minimal overhead right this second, and within a year, you’d be looking at astronomical profits.
And I’m not just talking about the primary crop; think about the entire ecosystem—oil extraction, pharmaceuticals, domestic sales, international export, not to mention the massive boom in medical tourism that follows.
Then there's hemp. You've got industrial hemp for textiles, construction materials, insulation, clothing... hell, even Ford was manufacturing hemp-based caissons back in the '30s!

The ceiling for extra profit is basically non-existent; the opportunities are endless.

Plus, it’s 100% organic. No herbicides, no heavy spraying, no stripping the soil of its nutrients—just pure, sustainable growth with infinite ways to scale the surrounding industries.
We have weeds growing in every single backyard in America just waiting to be picked.

We are literally sitting on "green gold" in our own backyards, yet somehow we're too stubborn or too shortsighted to bend over and grab it, choosing instead to obsess over 3D printers.
Give me a break.


ANTE TOMIĆ Marijuana would absolutely wreck us financially. Americans would plow through every wheat field in sight just to plant 50 billion stalks.

And here's another American businessman keeping up with "new tech"—though, admittedly, it's just for making toys:

Goldman Sachs: ‘I beat cancer, I owe hundreds of millions, but I’ll make it all back with 3D printed toys’
urbanorca8 urbanorca8 Member
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joined Nov 2016
#204 ·
So, some guy in Japan actually managed to 3D print a handgun, but he got slapped with legal trouble because gun laws over there are incredibly strict:
http://motherboard.vice.com/read/the...gun-free-japan
Angela Cox4 Angela Cox4 Active Member
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#205 ·
goldengull3 said:That is precisely why a rule of law exists—to prevent such things, much like how it prevents you from doing 120 mph on an interstate. Either you follow the law, or you commit a crime. And given how fast technology moves, detection is easier than ever; we went from fingerprinting to DNA sequencing, which has become increasingly efficient. Crime has never been more easily uncovered.

Yes, but there is absolutely nothing stopping you from developing your own inventions your way. Nothing at all. It just means you cannot meddle with inventions that someone else has protected—it’s that simple. Otherwise, you face the consequences. It's straightforward. Of course, nobody will bother you if you build something in your garage for non-profit use, but once you take it to market, that is a different story entirely.

The logic is simple: stop forcing your philosophy on everyone else and just live it. Use open-source projects, free industrial designs, royalty-free music, and independent films. Don't bypass payment when creators explicitly ask for it—whether it’s a movie ticket, a rental, or a patent license. Then everyone stays happy.

Otherwise, you have to be prepared to deal with the fallout.

Anyway, we are getting off track. 🙂

In this "highly educated, tech-savvy society" you keep talking about, a tiny handful of academics working for the Federal Government isn't going to stop anything—not when the whole point of the internet is the infinite exchange of info. Basically, a totally free internet might change the world, but it won't happen the way you're dreaming it would—where some elite group of geniuses gets to pull all the strings for an entire era of civilization. That's just not happening. In a fully digitized world, information is everywhere, everyone sees everything, and pretty soon, you won't have anything left to charge money for. Trying to gatekeep value while others are trying to provide open access? It just doesn't work.
goldengull3 said:That is precisely why a rule of law exists—to prevent such things, much like how it prevents you from doing 120 mph on an interstate. Either you follow the law, or you commit a crime. And given how fast technology moves, detection is easier than ever; we went from fingerprinting to DNA sequencing, which has become increasingly efficient. Crime has never been more easily uncovered.

Yes, but there is absolutely nothing stopping you from developing your own inventions your way. Nothing at all. It just means you cannot meddle with inventions that someone else has protected—it’s that simple. Otherwise, you face the consequences. It's straightforward. Of course, nobody will bother you if you build something in your garage for non-profit use, but once you take it to market, that is a different story entirely.

The logic is simple: stop forcing your philosophy on everyone else and just live it. Use open-source projects, free industrial designs, royalty-free music, and independent films. Don't bypass payment when creators explicitly ask for it—whether it’s a movie ticket, a rental, or a patent license. Then everyone stays happy.

Otherwise, you have to be prepared to deal with the fallout.

Anyway, we are getting off track. 🙂

If you're an inventor who actually wants to protect your work, nothing is stopping you from skipping the internet entirely since you think it's too sketchy for your needs. 😉
goldengull3 said:That is precisely why a rule of law exists—to prevent such things, much like how it prevents you from doing 120 mph on an interstate. Either you follow the law, or you commit a crime. And given how fast technology moves, detection is easier than ever; we went from fingerprinting to DNA sequencing, which has become increasingly efficient. Crime has never been more easily uncovered.

Yes, but there is absolutely nothing stopping you from developing your own inventions your way. Nothing at all. It just means you cannot meddle with inventions that someone else has protected—it’s that simple. Otherwise, you face the consequences. It's straightforward. Of course, nobody will bother you if you build something in your garage for non-profit use, but once you take it to market, that is a different story entirely.

The logic is simple: stop forcing your philosophy on everyone else and just live it. Use open-source projects, free industrial designs, royalty-free music, and independent films. Don't bypass payment when creators explicitly ask for it—whether it’s a movie ticket, a rental, or a patent license. Then everyone stays happy.

Otherwise, you have to be prepared to deal with the fallout.

Anyway, we are getting off track. 🙂

goldengull3 said:That is precisely why a rule of law exists—to prevent such things, much like how it prevents you from doing 120 mph on an interstate. Either you follow the law, or you commit a crime. And given how fast technology moves, detection is easier than ever; we went from fingerprinting to DNA sequencing, which has become increasingly efficient. Crime has never been more easily uncovered.

Yes, but there is absolutely nothing stopping you from developing your own inventions your way. Nothing at all. It just means you cannot meddle with inventions that someone else has protected—it’s that simple. Otherwise, you face the consequences. It's straightforward. Of course, nobody will bother you if you build something in your garage for non-profit use, but once you take it to market, that is a different story entirely.

The logic is simple: stop forcing your philosophy on everyone else and just live it. Use open-source projects, free industrial designs, royalty-free music, and independent films. Don't bypass payment when creators explicitly ask for it—whether it’s a movie ticket, a rental, or a patent license. Then everyone stays happy.

Otherwise, you have to be prepared to deal with the fallout.

Anyway, we are getting off track. 🙂

Look, I get that, but you can't just go sanctioning the entire internet—which, let’s face it, is basically one massive, global information machine—just because a few individuals aren't willing to own up to their actions. That's just not how it works. It's totally unacceptable. Our legal system needs to be fixing this from the inside out—starting with accountability at the individual level and moving outward toward the world—rather than trying to play whack-a-mole by censoring the whole damn web.

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