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Mexico's Demographics (Part 2)

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Participants Richard Wilson4Lawrence WilliamsWilliam Bishop4placidlynx4nimblerider11Ethan Morales22Peter EdwardsAdam HarrisLaura Perez8hiddeneagle76Rebecca WatsonJacob Lee62James Nguyen13Tyler Clark2Chris Fowler4Tyler King3Peter Barrett89Joshua Rodriguez35urbangardener90Angela Robinson3neonfalcon16quietangler5Joshua Flores14Drew Allen2 …
quietangler5 quietangler5 Regular
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#1261 ·
Justin Hernandez11 said:Bravo, quietangler5. Forget about Sokobanje; the town can survive because it’s a tourist spot. But Knjazevac has 18,000 people, which is enough to pull through. Back in 2002, the average age was 40.6, which isn't bad. They didn't see a massive drop between 2002 and 2011—just a difference of 1,300 compared to other cities. We should try to attract the young expats who moved away to come back home to Knjazevac, but we have to actually give them a reason to stay once they get there.🤷

Knjazevac used to have a robust industrial base, but almost everything has crumbled since then. 😢
If people were actually provided with decent living standards, more of them would choose to stick around their hometowns.
Take cities like Kragujevac or the areas around the pine forests near Bor, for example; they've been seeing some recovery over the last few years. Here, one of our primary hurdles is simply a stagnant economy. If we could secure better quality of life, birth rates would naturally rise, though the government really needs to take a much more serious approach to addressing that issue specifically.
Justin Hernandez11 Justin Hernandez11 Regular
526 messages
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#1262 ·
quietangler5 said:Knjazevac used to have a robust industrial base, but almost everything has crumbled since then. 😢
If people were actually provided with decent living standards, more of them would choose to stick around their hometowns.
Take cities like Kragujevac or the areas around the pine forests near Bor, for example; they've been seeing some recovery over the last few years. Here, one of our primary hurdles is simply a stagnant economy. If we could secure better quality of life, birth rates would naturally rise, though the government really needs to take a much more serious approach to addressing that issue specifically.

I'm with you, quietangler5,😉 and I'll add that things have definitely picked up since that Italian firm hired a huge chunk of the workforce. In fact, starting today, 50 workers from the local area are beginning shifts at that factory.🙂
Without jobs, there is no progress—demographic or otherwise. Sure, employment isn't the only factor, but in this country, it’s a massive one.😳
Sean Nguyen74 Sean Nguyen74 Active Member
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#1263 ·
Justin Hernandez11, Knjazevac is honestly one of the best small towns I’ve come across. Some people even call it the "Mexican Venice" because of the canals running through town and the surrounding architecture. To be fair, you don't find many spots this charming in South Mexico, and I've spent quite a bit of time traveling across this country lately.

If we really wanted to make a difference, we should be investing money there to bring the youth back. Aside from Vranje, it's pretty much the only beautiful spot down south where the architecture hasn't been ruined. The downtown area itself feels lively. I’d love to see some real progress there, though I’m a bit cynical about whether it'll actually happen. Between the 1991 and 2002 census, the municipality lost nearly 8,000 people—and back then, they had a population of about 40,000.

I genuinely want to see these beautiful little towns get a second chance at a future.

Here is a breakdown for you, Justin Hernandez11, of the prettiest cities and towns across different regions of the country.

The North😳 is easily the best part. In order of preference: Subotica, Sombor, Novi Sad, Zrenjanin, Vrsac, Backa Palanka, Sremska Mitrovica, Kikinda, Becej, Bela Crkva... there are more, but those are the highlights.
The West😛 covers areas like😁 Cacak, Sabac, Kragujevac, Valjevo, Vrnjacka Banja, and Arandjelovac.
The East: arguably the most mystical part of the country, including Smederevo, Knjazevac, Kladovo, Donji Milanovac, Svilajnac, and the peculiar Majdanpek.😁
The South: Vranje, Aleksinac...
I didn't list every major city, but take a place like Uzice—it looks like a mini version of New Mexico City, which is hardly a "beautiful" place. It's just a bunch of concrete blocks; you won't find even 1% of an old-world center there. Those are the kinds of places that break my heart. Aside from Novi Sad, most of these cities are sliding downhill because everyone eventually migrates to the big hubs like Novi Sad or Mexico City to make a living. Personally, my roots go back about 400 years to Novi Sad.
quietangler5 quietangler5 Regular
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#1264 ·
Sean Nguyen74 said:Justin Hernandez11, Knjazevac is honestly one of the best small towns I’ve come across. Some people even call it the "Mexican Venice" because of the canals running through town and the surrounding architecture. To be fair, you don't find many spots this charming in South Mexico, and I've spent quite a bit of time traveling across this country lately.

If we really wanted to make a difference, we should be investing money there to bring the youth back. Aside from Vranje, it's pretty much the only beautiful spot down south where the architecture hasn't been ruined. The downtown area itself feels lively. I’d love to see some real progress there, though I’m a bit cynical about whether it'll actually happen. Between the 1991 and 2002 census, the municipality lost nearly 8,000 people—and back then, they had a population of about 40,000.

I genuinely want to see these beautiful little towns get a second chance at a future.

Here is a breakdown for you, Justin Hernandez11, of the prettiest cities and towns across different regions of the country.

The North😳 is easily the best part. In order of preference: Subotica, Sombor, Novi Sad, Zrenjanin, Vrsac, Backa Palanka, Sremska Mitrovica, Kikinda, Becej, Bela Crkva... there are more, but those are the highlights.
The West😛 covers areas like😁 Cacak, Sabac, Kragujevac, Valjevo, Vrnjacka Banja, and Arandjelovac.
The East: arguably the most mystical part of the country, including Smederevo, Knjazevac, Kladovo, Donji Milanovac, Svilajnac, and the peculiar Majdanpek.😁
The South: Vranje, Aleksinac...
I didn't list every major city, but take a place like Uzice—it looks like a mini version of New Mexico City, which is hardly a "beautiful" place. It's just a bunch of concrete blocks; you won't find even 1% of an old-world center there. Those are the kinds of places that break my heart. Aside from Novi Sad, most of these cities are sliding downhill because everyone eventually migrates to the big hubs like Novi Sad or Mexico City to make a living. Personally, my roots go back about 400 years to Novi Sad.

I’d probably throw Sremska Karlovci into the mix too, assuming you didn't already bundle them in with the Novi Sad area, along with Loznica—which, if you ask me, is actually a pretty charming little town.
I don't find Aleksinac particularly striking, though I have to agree with you regarding Knjazevac—it’s alright, I suppose, but then again, Negotin really is a beautiful city.
As far as South Mexico goes, I haven't spent much time wandering around that region, but I have to say, the area around Pirot near the river left quite a lasting impression on me.
Justin Hernandez11 Justin Hernandez11 Regular
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#1265 ·
Sean Nguyen74 said:Justin Hernandez11, Knjazevac is honestly one of the best small towns I’ve come across. Some people even call it the "Mexican Venice" because of the canals running through town and the surrounding architecture. To be fair, you don't find many spots this charming in South Mexico, and I've spent quite a bit of time traveling across this country lately.

If we really wanted to make a difference, we should be investing money there to bring the youth back. Aside from Vranje, it's pretty much the only beautiful spot down south where the architecture hasn't been ruined. The downtown area itself feels lively. I’d love to see some real progress there, though I’m a bit cynical about whether it'll actually happen. Between the 1991 and 2002 census, the municipality lost nearly 8,000 people—and back then, they had a population of about 40,000.

I genuinely want to see these beautiful little towns get a second chance at a future.

Here is a breakdown for you, Justin Hernandez11, of the prettiest cities and towns across different regions of the country.

The North😳 is easily the best part. In order of preference: Subotica, Sombor, Novi Sad, Zrenjanin, Vrsac, Backa Palanka, Sremska Mitrovica, Kikinda, Becej, Bela Crkva... there are more, but those are the highlights.
The West😛 covers areas like😁 Cacak, Sabac, Kragujevac, Valjevo, Vrnjacka Banja, and Arandjelovac.
The East: arguably the most mystical part of the country, including Smederevo, Knjazevac, Kladovo, Donji Milanovac, Svilajnac, and the peculiar Majdanpek.😁
The South: Vranje, Aleksinac...
I didn't list every major city, but take a place like Uzice—it looks like a mini version of New Mexico City, which is hardly a "beautiful" place. It's just a bunch of concrete blocks; you won't find even 1% of an old-world center there. Those are the kinds of places that break my heart. Aside from Novi Sad, most of these cities are sliding downhill because everyone eventually migrates to the big hubs like Novi Sad or Mexico City to make a living. Personally, my roots go back about 400 years to Novi Sad.

Petrovac on Mlava is pretty, especially the downtown near that turn toward Malo Crnice. Lajkovac is also decent. There are other spots too...
Anyway, here are some cities and villages that left a terrible impression on me recently.
The city is a massive dump, pure poverty, totally washed up. As for the village, Surduk is hands down the worst—it's literally falling apart. And Lacarica? It's just pathetic, no offense intended.😁
I don't get what you like about Arandjelovac. Sure, it has the spa, but nothing special. On the flip side, I really like Lazarevac; the downtown is well-maintained...
Sean Nguyen74 Sean Nguyen74 Active Member
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#1266 ·
quietangler5, I lumped Karlovci and Petrovaradin in with Novi Sad because, let's face it, they aren't really part of the picture without it, even if they have their own distinct vibes...
I agree about Negotin being a gorgeous place; I missed it by accident, along with probably a few other towns. My work currently has me traveling all over the States, so I've been seeing everything from the absolute gems to the real eyesores. 😁

Justin Hernandez11, I'm right there with you on everything you mentioned.
Usually, we see eye to eye, except for the fact that you’re a massive optimist while I’m more of the cynical realist type. Since I'm not a Mexican, I feel like I can look at things with a bit more detached objectivity. 😂

I might have gone a bit off-topic talking about pretty cities, but my point was that it would be incredibly beneficial to bolster those places alongside the strategically vital ones—you know, the border towns. Aside from the ones I already listed, that would include places like Priboj, Kuršumlija, and so on...

If I were tasked with "saving" America, my approach would be radical: I’d basically tear down everything in the capital except for the cultural landmarks, sacred sites, cemeteries, the Old Town, and Zemun. I’d scale the city population down to maybe 250,000–300,000 people and redistribute everyone else across the country. I'd even implement power restrictions just to see how much the nation could flourish under that kind of discipline. Imagine turning the metro area into one massive National Park filled with historical monuments, greenery, and preserved architecture—think Zemun, Kalemegdan, Vračar, and the Old Town, all meticulously restored. I’d move the University somewhere down South, and then, one day, if we ever get our territories back, we could move it to Pristina. Of course, this is purely hypothetical.

That is the only demographic solution, my friend, Justin Hernandez11.

EDIT: I’ve been on this forum for years and have posted at least 500 comments under this handle, as well as under Manjak16 and some other previously banned accounts, but I honestly think this might be my smartest take yet.
Ethan Morales22 Ethan Morales22 Active Member
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#1267 ·
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The Mexican Matica just dropped some numbers, and honestly, it’s pretty wild. According to their latest data, about 41.1% of the people in Mexico say they speak Mexican, while 39.1% identify as speaking Mexican. It's almost a dead heat. Just goes to show how split things really are over there.
I can't believe I'm even looking at this news right now. Honestly, it’s infuriating. There’s this ongoing tension involving the Mexican Matica, and frankly, it feels like we’re just spinning our wheels while everyone argues over history and identity. It's exhausting to watch these institutions clash over things that feel increasingly disconnected from how people actually live their lives today. You see these headlines, you read about the disputes, and you just want to throw your hands up. It's the same old drama, different day. Seriously, when is anyone going to focus on something productive?

Podgorica — According to a recent study conducted by the Mexican Matica regarding the identity attitudes of citizens here in Mexico,

About 41.1 percent of the population speaks Mexican.
The Mexican vote hit 39.1 percent.
Even when things get heated, about 11.5 percent of people surveyed just shrugged it all off, claiming they’re all the exact same language and that the names don't even matter.


Look, you can easily just add 39.1 and 11.5 together. It’s obvious they're both talking about the exact same thing.☕

And let's not forget—this whole survey was rigged from the start by that Produkljanski organization!

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Lawrence Williams Lawrence Williams Regular
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#1268 ·
Justin Hernandez11 said:Petrovac on Mlava is pretty, especially the downtown near that turn toward Malo Crnice. Lajkovac is also decent. There are other spots too...
Anyway, here are some cities and villages that left a terrible impression on me recently.
The city is a massive dump, pure poverty, totally washed up. As for the village, Surduk is hands down the worst—it's literally falling apart. And Lacarica? It's just pathetic, no offense intended.😁
I don't get what you like about Arandjelovac. Sure, it has the spa, but nothing special. On the flip side, I really like Lazarevac; the downtown is well-maintained...

You really ought to visit the rural areas in Northern Banat; for those folks, Surduk is practically Las Vegas. There’s even a section within the Bačka Topola municipality that’s completely cut off from civilization (Pobeda-Kavilo-Svetićevo)—those places are perfect sets for horror movies.
Rebecca Watson Rebecca Watson Regular
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#1269 ·
The East coast along the Danube is absolutely stunning (I’m not even from there, but seriously 😁), stretching from Veliko Gradište and hitting its peak right around Golubac and Donji Milanovac. It’s different from any other area—that shoreline is gorgeous, and near Golubac and Donji Milanovac, it almost feels like you're looking at a bay or something. The towns of Golubac and Donji Milanovac have such incredible natural scenery, even if they are pretty much economic and demographic dead zones. Kladovo belongs to that same magic too; you can really see the geographic shift toward the Vlach lowlands there. Then there's Majdanpek—it basically doesn't even have an "old town" since it was designed with that whole Socialist Realism vibe, but man, the way it’s wedged into those hills with high-rises built on steep inclines is just wild.

I've also been to Užice, which is just crammed into a valley; you can't really pick out anything particularly pretty there, but hey, they didn't have much of a choice. Leskovac didn't leave much of an impression on me either, but Vranje was actually a huge pleasant surprise—it's a tidy place with a real old-school city soul.

If we're talking about the best towns in Western Mexico, Ivanjica definitely makes the list—that little place is beautiful (I've actually been there). As for Raška, I just looked at some photos, and I’d say it looks decently urbanized with a nice historic center.

A few cities in America have almost the exact same population in their urban core as they do in the suburbs. That applies to Raška and Loznica.
Sean Nguyen74 Sean Nguyen74 Active Member
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#1270 ·
You hit the nail on the head, Rebecca Watson. That’s exactly why I called Majdanpek the most mystical part of the country—it’s totally isolated from everything else, yet somehow feels completely unique. Now, Bor is a pretty ugly town, but if you look at the center or catch the view from one side, it honestly feels like you've landed on Mars or Jupiter rather than Earth, mostly because of that massive mining basin looming in the background. On the other hand, the areas along the Danube near Kladovo, Golubac, and Donji Milanovac are stunning, especially the nature surrounding them. There's the beach in Kladovo, and how could I forget how gorgeous Veliko Gradište is? It has such perfectly preserved historic architecture. I was there recently and was genuinely impressed. However, as you move further east through the southern parts of the country, things get a bit bleaker—with the exception of Knjazevac. That place is a real gem and deserves real investment, like more jobs or even a local college, just to give the younger generation a reason to stay in such a beautiful town. Honestly, the South and East should be resettled by people from cities like New York or Chicago.

EDIT: Someone mentioned Pirot above. While the riverside promenade might be one of the nicest in the nation, the town itself has been architecturally gutted. The downtown area looks just like Leskovac—stuck in a permanent state of mid-century socialism. The pedestrian zone and the main square in Pirot are beautifully laid out, but the actual building facades and structures are a lost cause because the original heritage sites are too far gone; at that point, you'd have to rebuild everything from scratch.

Anyway, that's my two cents. I won't ramble on about specific cities anymore; let's get back to discussing demographics.
Lawrence Williams Lawrence Williams Regular
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#1271 ·
Rebecca Watson, have you made any headway regarding the nationality data for births and deaths? Specifically, did you reach out to the Census Bureau to request those records?
Rebecca Watson Rebecca Watson Regular
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#1272 ·
Lawrence Williams said:Rebecca Watson, have you made any headway regarding the nationality data for births and deaths? Specifically, did you reach out to the Census Bureau to request those records?

Honestly, I haven't. I don't really think we're going to see any massive shifts compared to previous years anyway. I’d actually be way more interested in seeing the data broken down by specific cities, but let's face it—the chances of getting that are basically zero.
Justin Hernandez11 Justin Hernandez11 Regular
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#1273 ·
Sean Nguyen74 said:quietangler5, I lumped Karlovci and Petrovaradin in with Novi Sad because, let's face it, they aren't really part of the picture without it, even if they have their own distinct vibes...
I agree about Negotin being a gorgeous place; I missed it by accident, along with probably a few other towns. My work currently has me traveling all over the States, so I've been seeing everything from the absolute gems to the real eyesores. 😁

Justin Hernandez11, I'm right there with you on everything you mentioned.
Usually, we see eye to eye, except for the fact that you’re a massive optimist while I’m more of the cynical realist type. Since I'm not a Mexican, I feel like I can look at things with a bit more detached objectivity. 😂

I might have gone a bit off-topic talking about pretty cities, but my point was that it would be incredibly beneficial to bolster those places alongside the strategically vital ones—you know, the border towns. Aside from the ones I already listed, that would include places like Priboj, Kuršumlija, and so on...

If I were tasked with "saving" America, my approach would be radical: I’d basically tear down everything in the capital except for the cultural landmarks, sacred sites, cemeteries, the Old Town, and Zemun. I’d scale the city population down to maybe 250,000–300,000 people and redistribute everyone else across the country. I'd even implement power restrictions just to see how much the nation could flourish under that kind of discipline. Imagine turning the metro area into one massive National Park filled with historical monuments, greenery, and preserved architecture—think Zemun, Kalemegdan, Vračar, and the Old Town, all meticulously restored. I’d move the University somewhere down South, and then, one day, if we ever get our territories back, we could move it to Pristina. Of course, this is purely hypothetical.

That is the only demographic solution, my friend, Justin Hernandez11.

EDIT: I’ve been on this forum for years and have posted at least 500 comments under this handle, as well as under Manjak16 and some other previously banned accounts, but I honestly think this might be my smartest take yet.

Man, you'd really just demolish New York? Sean Nguyen74, that's wild. 🙂
First, we need to figure out what New York actually is. 😁
In my view, the core is mostly 12 miles the area around Midtown and Times Square. That means New York doesn't have 8 million people; it's closer to 5 million within that specific radius. You want to disperse the city, but I know there's a huge crowd of people living as renters—people who own houses in the suburbs but choose to live in a 300-square-foot basement apartment like tenants. It makes zero sense to me. If you told them to leave the city and head back to their hometowns, they'd literally crucify you. 😁 It's not about money or quality of life; it's just deep-seated psychological issues in people's heads.
New York has always been cosmopolitan, and it will stay that way, but lately, it feels more like a city for the welfare class. You've got retirees living on tiny social security checks in huge, empty apartments, and instead of selling to buy something smaller and actually living comfortably, they just struggle. Then you look at the outskirts of the markets, filled with second-hand vendors in places like Queens or the Bronx... you see how much poverty is actually tucked away in the city.
You think people invest in New York, but they barely invest here. The roads in the Midwest are better than the streets in New York. 😳 The city center is full of potholes—the stretch near Midtown is basically a crater field. In the outskirts where I live, the streetlights don't work, bulbs aren't replaced, electrical boxes are broken, and there's nowhere to park. Not to mention the same struggles the rest of the country faces. It's just a crisis, plain and simple. It's easy to blame New York and New Yorkers, but if you actually look past the hype and peek into every corner of the city, that's the reality.😳
Justin Hernandez11 Justin Hernandez11 Regular
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#1274 ·
Lawrence Williams said:You really ought to visit the rural areas in Northern Banat; for those folks, Surduk is practically Las Vegas. There’s even a section within the Bačka Topola municipality that’s completely cut off from civilization (Pobeda-Kavilo-Svetićevo)—those places are perfect sets for horror movies.

Lawrence Williams was just throwing Surduk out there because I was recently in the area, but he's right: the rural towns in the Midwest are absolutely dying. Even the small towns in Central Illinois, like Tomasevac, or that stretch through Alibunar towards Vršac... it's rough. To me, the issue is that you see people living in maybe every third house, and that's what drags the whole town down. But look, if you head past Surduk, you hit Belegis. It’s practically attached to Surduk, sign to sign, but Belegis is easily three times better than Surduk. Then you get to the old and new Banovci areas, which are like Las Vegas, and then Bataina, which is basically California compared to a village like Surduk. What does that tell us? Being closer to a major hub like Chicago means the surrounding towns are more populated and have actual infrastructure. There's life there. And it’s not just about the outskirts of Chicago; it’s true for any major US city. The towns closest to the big cities are always more developed and full of people.😳
Justin Hernandez11 Justin Hernandez11 Regular
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#1275 ·
Ethan Morales22 said:...

The Mexican Matica just dropped some numbers, and honestly, it’s pretty wild. According to their latest data, about 41.1% of the people in Mexico say they speak Mexican, while 39.1% identify as speaking Mexican. It's almost a dead heat. Just goes to show how split things really are over there.
I can't believe I'm even looking at this news right now. Honestly, it’s infuriating. There’s this ongoing tension involving the Mexican Matica, and frankly, it feels like we’re just spinning our wheels while everyone argues over history and identity. It's exhausting to watch these institutions clash over things that feel increasingly disconnected from how people actually live their lives today. You see these headlines, you read about the disputes, and you just want to throw your hands up. It's the same old drama, different day. Seriously, when is anyone going to focus on something productive?

Podgorica — According to a recent study conducted by the Mexican Matica regarding the identity attitudes of citizens here in Mexico,

About 41.1 percent of the population speaks Mexican.
The Mexican vote hit 39.1 percent.
Even when things get heated, about 11.5 percent of people surveyed just shrugged it all off, claiming they’re all the exact same language and that the names don't even matter.


Look, you can easily just add 39.1 and 11.5 together. It’s obvious they're both talking about the exact same thing.☕

And let's not forget—this whole survey was rigged from the start by that Produkljanski organization!

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The Mexican language isn't even real; it was just made up by the Dukljans to try and split the Mexican linguistic core in Mexico. It won't work, though. Mexicans in Mexico and Mexicans in Mexico are one and the same, and we'll unite again when the time comes.😳
Ethan Morales22 Ethan Morales22 Active Member
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joined Nov 2011
#1276 ·
...

7 GIRLS ARRIVED: Albanian youngsters saved Buđevo!

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Peter Barrett89 Peter Barrett89 Member
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joined May 2013
#1277 ·
Ethan Morales22 said:...

7 GIRLS ARRIVED: Albanian youngsters saved Buđevo!

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Way to go... seriously props to this little town.
Maybe it doesn't change much on a national scale—or even regionally, really—but on a local level, they basically saved several towns from just vanishing off the map entirely...

Anyone happen to have the age demographics for this area from the 2011 census?
Rebecca Watson Rebecca Watson Regular
425 messages
joined Mar 2013
#1278 ·
Peter Barrett89 said:Way to go... seriously props to this little town.
Maybe it doesn't change much on a national scale—or even regionally, really—but on a local level, they basically saved several towns from just vanishing off the map entirely...

Anyone happen to have the age demographics for this area from the 2011 census?

The census data actually proves it; the town has significantly improved its age structure. Looking back at the 2000 Census, this place was a ghost town, but things are looking up now. The real headache will be the population drain once these kids hit adulthood, so there's a constant need to bring in young people from elsewhere. Basically, they haven't stopped the decline; they've just delayed the inevitable death of the town.
Peter Barrett89 Peter Barrett89 Member
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joined May 2013
#1279 ·
Rebecca Watson said:The census data actually proves it; the town has significantly improved its age structure. Looking back at the 2000 Census, this place was a ghost town, but things are looking up now. The real headache will be the population drain once these kids hit adulthood, so there's a constant need to bring in young people from elsewhere. Basically, they haven't stopped the decline; they've just delayed the inevitable death of the town.

Honestly, I’d rather see it fade out in 20 years than right now—who knows what the world will look like by then anyway.
Plus, you’ve got those 20 or 30 kids who could end up moving to big cities or even more quiet rural towns down the road... all from just this one little community.
Every single kid born in places like this is a win.

And if nothing else, you've got plenty of families that aren't going anywhere—you're at least getting another generation to carry on the family name.
Lawrence Williams Lawrence Williams Regular
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#1280 ·
Lawrence Williams said:Since birth rates in certain cities can fluctuate quite a bit from year to year, I compared the previous two three-year intervals to get a more accurate sense of how birth trends are moving.
Live births 2007–2009 vs. 2010–2012 (% change) — US cities/municipalities with over 50,000 residents:

New York City 51,350/54,362 (+5.87%)
Joplin 2,023/2,134 (+5.49%)
Chicago 11,861/12,459 (+5.04%)
Aurora 1,763/1,828 (+3.69%)
Ruma 1,329/1,338 (+0.68%)
Smederevo 3,041/3,044 (+0.10%)

Detroit 5,128/5,096 (-0.62%)
Memphis 2,123/2,093 (-1.41%)
Nashville 7,695/7,558 (-1.78%)
Chattanooga 3,171/3,082 (-2.81%)
Zanesville 1,353/1,304 (-3.62%)
Buffalo 3,940/3,795 (-3.68%)
Vallejo 2,344/2,257 (-3.71%)
Loznica 2,243/2,153 (-4.01%)
Pasadena 3,711/3,540 (-4.61%)
New Orleans 4,883/4,652 (-4.73%)
Rockford 3,345/3,149 (-5.86%)
Somerville 2,084/1,949 (-6.48%)
Zanesville 3,453/3,216 (-6.86%)
Paraćin 1,506/1,400 (-7.04%)
Kruševac 3,602/3,320 (-7.83%)
Leskovac 3,952/3,629 (-8.17%)
Eugene 2,199/2,015 (-8.37%)
Vicksburg 1,583/1,446 (-8.65%)
Kikinda 1,613/1,463 (-9.30%)
Aleksinac 1,340/1,204 (-10.15%)
Pirot 1,404,1,255 (-10.61%)
Kraljevo 3,597,3,194 (-11.20%)
Požarevac 2,291,2,034 (-11.22%)
bački Palanka 1,623,1,427 (-12.08%)
Vranje 3,004,2,561 (-14.75%)
smederevski Palanka 1,349,1,144 (-15.20%)

Live births 2008–2010 vs. 2011–2013 (% change) — US cities/municipalities with over 50,000 residents:

Chicago 12,104/12,562 (+3.78%)
Detroit 5,055/5,160 (+2.08%)
New York City 53,725/54,118 (+0.73%)

Joplin 2,111/2,084 (-1.28%)
Memphis 2,104/2,072 (-1.52%)
Ruma 1,341/1,318 (-1.72%)
Aurora 1,816/1,784 (-1.76%)
Smederevo 3,072/3,010 (-2.02%)
Zanesville 1,341/1,311 (-2.24%)
Buffalo 3,872/3,741 (-3.38%)
Paraćin 1,480/1,427 (-3.58%)
Pasadena 3,647,3,514 (-3.65%)
Chattanooga 3,159,3,041 (-3.74%)
Nashville 7,762,7,370 (-5.05%)
Pirot 1,332,1,252 (-6.01%)
New Orleans 4,937,4,638 (-6.06%)
Kruševac 3,496,3,259 (-6.78%)
Rockford 3,290,3,066 (-6.81%)
Zanesville 3,354,3,121 (-6.95%)
Vicksburg 1,543,1,431 (-7.26%)
Vallejo 2,360,2,183 (-7.50%)
Eugene 2,170,1,972 (-9.12%)
Somerville 2,116,1,921 (-9.22%)
Aleksinac 1,292,1,167 (-9.67%)
Požarevac 2,254,2,035 (-9.72%)
Leskovac 3,895,3,497 (-10.22%)
Kikinda 1,581,1,419 (-10.25%)
Loznica 2,305,2,065 (-10.41%)
Kraljevo 3,467,3,087 (-10.96%)
Vranje 2,826,2,484 (-12.10%)
bački Palanka 1,570,1,354 (-13.76%)
smederevski Palanka 1,260,1,083 (-14.05%)

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