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Should I apologize for how I acted?

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goldenmarlin64 goldenmarlin64 NewcomerOP
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#21 ·
Brenda Booth5 said:If my own friend ever opened up to me about what you shared with your group, I’d actually realize just how much courage it takes to get those words out... and I’d really respect her for it.

Assuming you hadn't said a word to her, would she have even considered your relationship "fine" from her perspective? If that were the case, you could have easily kept quiet just to spare her the "poor thing" confusion.

At the end of the day, you had your own internal psychological reasons for being somewhat dishonest... but what exactly was her justification for this kind of friendship?

Just to be clear, all this "massive dishonesty" she keeps bringing up basically boils down to the fact that I wouldn't admit when an action from her or our social circle actually hurt my feelings more than I let on. I wasn't pretending everything was fine just to bail on the group or throw it in their faces later; I just learned how to handle certain situations internally—things that might seem trivial to others but hit me hard. Since I was raised to believe my opinions and needs mattered less, I just dealt with it privately and moved forward with the relationship without issue. I never ever dragged those things out, even now while she’s digging up all sorts of irrelevant nonsense. I refused to play that low, dirty card.

She doesn't need an excuse. She insists she's right, claiming she just can't be around me anymore because I don't see things clearly and that I need to understand why she can't consider people like me friends.

The worst part is feeling like a fool for trying to apologize to her and explaining every little detail she twisted, which honestly just signaled to her that she might have a point. But she doesn't. It's only taken a few days for me to realize that. Honestly, it doesn't matter; I have no intention of reaching out to tell her that, because someone like her isn't worth the effort. Is there any point in talking to someone who has already decided they're done with me? Someone to whom the things I shared—things that are genuinely heavy and have been weighing on me for a while now—mean absolutely nothing?

You lay out all your vulnerabilities to someone, and they just mock you and laugh—not just behind your back, but to your face—and then have the nerve to claim they're a true friend while hoping I'll be "smarter" next time so I don't "ruin" every relationship. Fine. I'll be smarter about judging people, because I clearly screwed up big time with her..
Brenda Booth5 Brenda Booth5 Member
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#22 ·
goldenmarlin64 said:Just to be clear, all this "massive dishonesty" she keeps bringing up basically boils down to the fact that I wouldn't admit when an action from her or our social circle actually hurt my feelings more than I let on. I wasn't pretending everything was fine just to bail on the group or throw it in their faces later; I just learned how to handle certain situations internally—things that might seem trivial to others but hit me hard. Since I was raised to believe my opinions and needs mattered less, I just dealt with it privately and moved forward with the relationship without issue. I never ever dragged those things out, even now while she’s digging up all sorts of irrelevant nonsense. I refused to play that low, dirty card.

She doesn't need an excuse. She insists she's right, claiming she just can't be around me anymore because I don't see things clearly and that I need to understand why she can't consider people like me friends.

The worst part is feeling like a fool for trying to apologize to her and explaining every little detail she twisted, which honestly just signaled to her that she might have a point. But she doesn't. It's only taken a few days for me to realize that. Honestly, it doesn't matter; I have no intention of reaching out to tell her that, because someone like her isn't worth the effort. Is there any point in talking to someone who has already decided they're done with me? Someone to whom the things I shared—things that are genuinely heavy and have been weighing on me for a while now—mean absolutely nothing?

You lay out all your vulnerabilities to someone, and they just mock you and laugh—not just behind your back, but to your face—and then have the nerve to claim they're a true friend while hoping I'll be "smarter" next time so I don't "ruin" every relationship. Fine. I'll be smarter about judging people, because I clearly screwed up big time with her..

The bottom line is, this is the end of that friendship, and you've already realized that yourself.
Regarding what I put in bold:
She claims she’s right and that I’m just biased, but even if that were true, she lacks any sense of the bigger picture herself. In reality, she’s being incredibly narrow-minded.

And that other part in bold? That's just typical condescension. She’s playing God, sitting up there judging and categorizing you.

It actually reminds me of that old song by The Rolling Stones. — granted, the context was romantic, but the sentiment is identical: "God forgave me, so maybe you could too..." But she won't, so you might as well just close the book on this chapter.
Jason Scott76 Jason Scott76 Newcomer
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#23 ·
goldenmarlin64 said:It’s pretty obvious. I just tend to approach problems by trying to understand the other side first—if that doesn't work, then it doesn't work. Throughout this entire argument, I didn't get a single shred of empathy from her, especially since I was being vulnerable about some personal struggles. All I got were comments like "you should have handled your life differently" and "this is entirely your own fault."

If an acquaintance had actually responded to what I told them the way I would have, it would have shut down her entire aggressive, insulting approach immediately. She could have just asked how I was doing, listened, and realized that my perspective isn't just some random whim—it's based on what I expect from relationships based on all my other friendships.

Honestly, I talk to people I don't even know in real life—people I've met on internet forums whose stories I've read and seen they're struggling. Every few days, I reach out to check on them because they're dealing with depression; I listen to their problems and try to help. That doesn't make me a saint; to me, it's just basic human decency.

On the flip side, she twisted everything to make me look threatening or dishonest just because I didn't share every single detail with her. This was someone I mostly communicated with via text and only saw when she didn't have anything better planned; I always felt secondary, like she didn't really see me as a person, which is exactly why I didn't feel brave enough to open up about the deep stuff. I never felt like she was actually listening. But the trivial things she's obsessing over—claiming I was keeping secrets—are nonsense. She was always kept in the loop regarding my other relationships, the issues I faced, and all those little details she was always so strangely interested in.

I know that real people stick around. This hit me hard, but maybe it's for the best. It's better to find out who the true friends are and cut ties with toxic connections. As for the people she's been gossiping about me to—she is incredibly venomous when she's annoyed with someone, so I highly doubt she wasn't dragging my name through the mud while she was "peacefully distancing herself"—well, hopefully, they have enough sense and memory to judge me based on how I actually treated THEM, rather than basing their opinion on her biased views.

There's no point in crying or overthinking this. I'm cutting off every information source related to her. I'm going to focus on myself, my hobbies, and my work. Like someone else mentioned, it shouldn't matter if you spend a few hours grabbing coffee with people just to feel better or to get validation from your circle. Whenever I want company, I have my family, and then there are those few real friends and the everyday ones I can go to a concert or head out with. Everything else is just forced, and it's too much mental energy to waste on stupidity when I could just relax and live in the moment. Real people will show up—they have to. And if they don't, I'm smart enough to know there are plenty of people out there who value me and won't walk away the second things get a little complicated.

Talking down to someone like that is pure disrespect. Life is too short to hang out with people who drag out your worst traits just so they can feel superior while leaving you feeling like garbage.

Sometimes being alone is better than dealing with a crowd like that.

Honestly, I think that friend acted that way because she realized there were no boundaries in place, so she just took advantage of the situation. 😁

I agree with the rest of your post. Surround yourself with good people who actually get you. You mentioned having hobbies that make you happy—stick to those and do what fulfills you. That's how you eventually attract new people who are secure enough in themselves that they don't need to feed their egos at your expense. 😉

As for her talking behind your back—don't give it any weight. The people who actually matter know who you are and what you're about. 🙂

Recognizing these issues was a solid first step toward making changes. Take it slow, be patient, and good luck. 😉

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