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Discussion: What kind of Reddit do we want... (and Complaints)

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graniteviper82 graniteviper82 MemberOP
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#1 ·
Discussion: What kind of community do we want... (and Complaints)

Is this platform preventing good people from participating—should we just put the toxic ones on ignore?

So, are we basically forced to sit here and read their insults and provocations—just enduring their aggression!?

What rules did I actually break by simply suggesting a decent person protect themselves from mindless posts—posts that both I and many other members have complained about—if they choose to?

None.
I’m pushing for this site to be a better place, yet rustydrifter10 has spent YEARS making sure I don't move in that direction—which is pretty obvious from how she's treated me and others over the years.
Basically, her goal is to make this place worse.
And she’s the one running things... even if she's leading us straight into an abyss, she's still the one at the helm...
There’s no disputing that now, I see it clearly.

The Ignore button—that's our legitimate right, though I suspect plenty of people don't even realize they can use it to mute someone—I believe...

Because why should the entire community collectively suffer through aggression and garbage posts?
If people won't tolerate it—and they won't, because they'll >>complain
But rustydrifter10 won't let us use it, nor will she let me even mention it, so what gives!?
(Honestly, I didn't even know that option existed for a good chunk of the early years)
Oh, look! Another piece of evidence.

Paul Scott4 has warned fair members of Reddit US countless times across various threads because he's exhausting, boring, and constantly provocative—he counters stupidity with more stupidity and then targets people when they disagree with him, basically verbally tearing them apart... yet nobody ever takes any actual action against him.

So, he gets a free pass to be AGGRESSIVE, mocking, and provocative toward the whole community, but if anyone rebels and offers a legitimate solution—like using IGNORE—they get punished.
It's a joke...

So once again, just like before, rustydrifter10 and the management support things that hurt the community while punishing those who fight back against them.
That's the management for you. Pathetic.

I honestly wonder why the owner even allows this? Haha
Either there are moles working against him, or he's crazy, or he's just not even present on the site...

Does he not see that this is massive damage to the platform? People are leaving because of this, leaving nothing but trolls shouting at each other in the void.

I assume the owner wants 100,000 real users rather than 500,000 accounts where only 50,000 are actually real people?
Does he really think the advertisers won't find this out—or that they don't already know?
(Or maybe he thought he could manage with five malicious, bitter instigators who constantly poison the well by being provocative in every single thread—trying to stir the fire, yeah right. Only a complete idiot would believe that. I mean, seriously, I have to ask, why this harmful way of managing things for all these years...)

People leave, and they aren't coming back because they don't want to deal with people like that.

People stop posting—just like I stopped posting publicly (I didn't write posts, but I did send plenty of DMs to decent people), and which, by the way, rustydrifter10 shut down with an "get lost" attitude in years past... claiming I wasn't posting and asking why I was complaining, haha...

Nick, you have absolutely no idea how much I've written in private messages.
I've probably broken four keyboards just from typing those DMs, hehe...
But I didn't post publicly because I didn't want to engage with toxic people.
And you Expressly and rudely closed that thread back then... just as I was trying to explain the situation and respond.
There you go—a perfect demonstration of your lack of culture and rudeness.
Everyone sees it and everyone knows who you are.
I just don't know why they still keep you around?

People aren't posting BECAUSE we have to deal with the toxicity that you guys support.
Read that sentence a thousand times; maybe it'll finally click!
I know it by heart, without even needing to look at the stats for the most unserious community on the internet...

That is why the site is dying and people are leaving, and you won't fix it with your malice
—NEVER, NOT EVEN IF YOU TRIED!!!
That's why people say this is the least serious community out there.
I didn't make that up; everyone says it.
Haha
And you just keep doing what you're doing... go ahead... punish the normal people and defend the bad ones.
Makes sense if the boss wants to maximize profit, hehe...

If I were running my own site, I'd do a complete overhaul of the mods and admins...
I’ve rolled out some new, better rules—and honestly, I wouldn't dream of punishing anyone who’s actually raising a valid point or pushing back for a good reason. Why would I do that? Instead, I'm focusing my energy on the trolls, the spammers, and that whole crowd of people just looking to cause trouble. That's where the real issue lies.
Why?
So, if I actually want order to prevail... what then?

If rustydrifter10 actually had an ounce of sense or played fair, she’d see that this guy is just out here stirring the pot and picking fights over every single topic—it's constant provocation at this point. She'd give him a heads-up, or at least a warning, but of course... she won't.

She basically nuked me—for her own reasons, I guess—just because I gave her some perfectly fair and decent advice about actually using the IGNORE button.

Don't even get me started, Nick...
So, here we go again—violating our community guidelines and basic human rights. Seriously?

Actually, you’re basically cheering on the people who systematically harass and stir the pot on every single topic—it’s pretty wild if you think about it.
It’s all just a bunch of mind games—constant psychological manipulation.
It’s just low-life behavior—protected by some twisted thief's code and shielded by the mods.

If some people are just going to spam the entire Reddit thread and pick fights for the sake of being difficult—well, we can always just hit the ignore button. Simple as that.
I’ve already called them out quite a bit—and honestly, I’ll keep doing it with a smile on my face—because they haven't actually said anything of substance. It’s always the same pattern: they just jump into most threads to talk trash without making any sense. They spend their time trying to tear people down, spamming the boards, trolling, acting superior, and spreading nothing but aggression and mockery. It’s all just a calculated way to provoke people and mess with the emotions of the fair users who are just trying to have a normal conversation.
Why would anyone even put up with that?
So, I was falling down a rabbit hole earlier—you know how it goes—and ended up reading the whole Wikipedia entry on internet trolls. It’s actually kind of fascinating if you look at it through a certain lens. Most people just see them as annoying pests, right? Just some random guy behind a screen looking to ruin someone's day because he's bored or just plain miserable. But when you dig into the psychology of it, there's this whole layer of intentional provocation designed specifically to derail conversations. It’s not always just "being mean" for the sake of it, though that's certainly a huge part of it. There's this specific goal of triggering an emotional response—getting under someone's skin just enough to make them lose their cool. Once you lose your cool, they win. That seems to be the fundamental rule of the game. They want that reaction. They thrive on the chaos. I wonder, though... is there a line where a heated debate just becomes trolling? Or is trolling its own distinct beast entirely? It feels like the distinction gets blurrier every single year, especially with how much of our lives happen on platforms like Reddit now. You have people who are genuinely passionate about a topic, and then you have the trolls who swoop in just to set the whole thing on fire. It's almost like a social experiment that nobody actually signed up for. Is it even possible to have a healthy digital community without a constant war against these people? Probably not. But then again, maybe the trolls are just a natural byproduct of giving everyone a megaphone. Who knows? Anyway, just some thoughts while I was drifting through the web.

If anyone else decides to start complaining, I’ll tell EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM that if they want to hit the ignore button just like I did, they should go right ahead—at least then they can escape all that AGGRESSION. Honestly, that's exactly what I did to free myself from it. I really couldn't care less about their pathetic, condescending, aggressive, or malicious takes—especially since the mods aren't going to step in and deal with them anyway.
It’s pretty damn obvious—as clear as day, really—that they aren't going to step up and protect us.

It’s not about protecting us—not even close. They aren't looking out for anyone. If anything, they’re just punishing us for wanting a better Reddit.
They aren't trying to make things better—they just want to watch this whole Reddit burn.

So, I’m just sitting here wondering—and this is just my two cents—do you guys honestly think that acting this shady is how the boss plans to grow Reddit? Like, is the strategy really just to push malicious stuff in hopes of boosting engagement? Is that actually the plan?
I mean, seriously—who among us can actually trust anyone anymore? Not this guy, not that guy... honestly, nobody.
I honestly have to wonder what goes on inside your heads sometimes...

So, why don't you just go ahead and ask one of the members? For instance...
rolandus
Just pull him into this thread so he can weigh in—let's see what he actually thinks about all this.
Maybe he’ll have some insight on this.
He’s actually pretty sharp—level-headed, too.
He’s complaining again today—or maybe I just thought I saw him doing it... honestly, I feel like I've seen similar stuff before.

So, Nick—are you actually telling me that the rest of us aren't allowed to defend ourselves? You’re just going to sit there and play bodyguard for the trolls and the bottom-feeders? Because honestly, that seems to be your whole brand lately—you’ve been doing it for ages, and I guess you don't plan on changing your tune anytime soon, right?

So, why'd you go ahead and delete my post from that thread? Was it just to make sure nobody actually gets a hold of the info or the idea I put out there—you know, to prevent someone from taking a guy who’s already climbed his way to the top of the mountain and putting him on ignore? Just curious.

Why didn't you just give my post a quick touch-up—I mean, even just a minimal edit—and leave it up? Especially since you saw Hazen was already making a fuss about it... wouldn't it have been easier to just suggest she use the IGNORE button instead?
Of course you didn't... because you actually enjoy watching this guy harass and provoke everyone on Reddit.
You don't have any excuses left...
So, what—are you like the boss around here or something?
Are you actually serious right now???
How far is this actually going?

It took me way too long to finally realize that the only real defense against the absolute nonsense flooding this place is to just ignore it. Honestly? It’s pure pollution. Smart people aren't going to waste their time reading through this garbage—and frankly, they don't care about it anyway.
Read those two sentences above a hundred times. Seriously. Just... read them over and over again.

Look, you can see the guy is just trolling at this point—dropping the same nonsense five times, ten times... it’s exhausting. Just IGNORE him. And I mean permanently.
Why even bother putting up with a professional agitator?
Honestly, there’s no point getting worked up over what he said... who actually cares?
We don't have any time left for the smooth talkers, the malicious types, the ones pushing aggression, or the bullies...
Our friends just aren't built like that.
Partners just aren't built like that anymore—not like they used to be.
They won't even be like that.
It’s just... it is what it is.
Look, you guys just need to get it...
You aren't going to get any smart people to bother reading this—not now, and honestly, probably not ever.
Just make sure you don't forget it.
Now you’re really gonna try and pull that crap with me—trying to sell me on some half-baked theory like you're actually teaching me something? Please.

I’ve spent years fighting for this Reddit to actually get better—you know, real improvements—while you’ve spent those same years doing absolutely nothing to address the issues we're facing. Is that really your strategy? Just sit there while things stagnate?

The site won't let me post—it's like they physically can't allow me to draft a rule that goes against everything being mandated by the positive laws right now. Is anyone else running into this? It’s frustrating when the platform just blocks you from even addressing stuff that contradicts the actual legal framework.
Am I really supposed to just sit here and take this aggression? Just soak it up like everyone else who actually has some decency?
You can foam at the mouth with all the malice you want...
How can I...
Nobody is actually reading that—those malicious provocations designed solely to trigger anger and bad vibes.
They don't matter... everyone is just disgusted by them instead of the normal users... all that emoji stuff and nonsense... haha

That’s exactly what rustydrifter10 and his crew protect.
Is this really the future of Reddit US?
Just a bunch of shills and trolls who frustrate people, spam, and mess with the entire Reddit community?
Because honestly, you guys seem to be exactly that.
You get a kick out of seeing decent people suffer while the villains target them.
But I bet plenty of hurt people have already come after you... that's a guarantee...
It'll come back to haunt you—infinitely—because that's just how the world works.

I’m going to point other GOOD people toward their rights and help make their lives better.
In spite of all these UNFAIR penalties.
Sorry, I'm not trash and I won't be, but I'll always fight against the bad actors.

I will do this PROUDLY, one way or another—or I'll just start my own site and let people migrate over to me.
I've thought about it, and I guarantee if I build it, it'll be better than this place...

And those kinds of malicious users? I'll aggressively and permanently ban them.
I'm not going to let 0.1% of the assholes ruin it for every other member, like is happening here.
Not like you guys do, where it's just counterproductive.
You ban the good ones and support the bad ones.
That says everything about who you are.
I have nothing to be ashamed of, but you should... maybe take a look in the mirror.

So, lift my penalty.

Start punishing the provocateurs and allow—actually, encourage—good people to put those types on ignore, because they are the AGGRESSIVE CANCER of this forum.
Nobody cares when some troll spews stupidity...
They are hurting your platform, but hey, if you love a forum like this, then we have no choice but to leave and let the owner fail... since that seems to be what he wants.
Haha, I can't help but laugh at actions like yours...

And all my other penalties were mostly handed out due to unfair bias and the "get lost" attitude from rustydrifter10 and the others.

You can't force us decent folks to endure abuse, constant mocking, taunting, and aggressors...
You can forget about that.
graniteviper82 graniteviper82 MemberOP
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joined Jan 2009
#2 ·
Here’s a prime example—Bad Wolf, from my own thread, a threatener... and a total psychopath—and I actually wrote it myself:
http://www.reddit.com/showpost.php?p=7...postcount=6268

quoting his link:
"I’m aware of my issues.

I definitely have a nasty disposition and a volatile temperament. On the surface, I seem charming and laid back, but sometimes I just completely lose it during fits of rage.

I’ve dealt with plenty of problems and conflicts; in fact, about a year ago, I was diagnosed with antisocial personality disorder (aka psychopathy). Because of fights and various issues, I ended up in therapy, though since you can't "cure" the disorder, it just helps me learn how to manage my anger and nature so I don't put myself or others in danger.

I have the typical physiological makeup of a psychopath—low serotonin, amygdala irregularities, high testosterone, and a low resting heart rate.

I love putting myself in risky, high-tension situations; then, hit by a surge of adrenaline and dopamine, I feel totally alive and somehow invincible."

So, that basically means double the aggression.

Either that, or we all just band together—a bunch of smart, decent people—and risk some cash, maybe get ourselves on TV, and sue Reddit.
I think that would be the smartest move...
I bet we’d rally a huge crowd of wealthy people willing to chip in immediately, haha.

And honestly, we could just start a second, better forum... one where they actually kick out the provocateurs and lowlifes so people can communicate normally and decently, instead of being screwed over like what’s allowed here.
Right?

Isn't the whole point to communicate normally rather than having five guys or twenty trolls provoking thousands of regular members???
By acting the way you are, you're basically giving a handful of people permission to provoke and harass thousands of members.
SHAMEFUL.
(And let's be real, that's never going to help your site grow—that's stupidity par excellence.)
Or are you just trying to destroy the site? Haha.

This doesn't hurt me (since this is just psychological fuel and strengthening for me), but you're going to attract a massive amount of negative energy. Guaranteed.

They should also mention that the site Expressly deleted the thread, and that the guy spreading these diseases (allegedly) is some Admin / mod from Reddit—which, according to the original author...
It was a thread about spreading the most severe, deadly STDs.
So, the site is supporting that too? Beautiful...

If that isn't the suicide of a forum and the murder of other innocent people, then I don't know what is.?!
And this guy is actually a mod / admin on this site!???
You're really that kind of outfit... what can I even say...
Maybe they'll end up earning themselves a spot in federal prison eventually...

People know exactly what was written in that thread... don't you worry...
That thread is:
A farce of a trial and advice - Reddit

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You have received an infraction on Reddit
Dear graniteviper82,

You have received an infraction on Reddit.

Reason: Violation of subforum rules
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This infraction is worth 30 point(s) and may result in restricted access until it expires. Serious infractions will never expire.

Original Post:
http://www.reddit.com/showthread.php?p=75877735
Quote:
Quote:
Hazen says: Check the post
Jesus, how exhausting you guys are with your constant bitterness and aggression toward everything living around you.

graniteviper82:
Just put all those malicious types, provocateurs, trolls, and toxic losers on ignore.
You and everyone else should just put them on permanent ignore; you'll have much less nonsense to read.
And expand your ignore lists to include the other decent people who suffer on this site.
Since the mods won't moderate, we have to do it ourselves...

And when I take over, you can buy me a drink for the brilliant idea.
I won't even be mad.

Best regards to all the well-meaning people!
All the best,

Reddit

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graniteviper82 graniteviper82 MemberOP
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joined Jan 2009
#3 ·
There’s plenty more where that came from, but let’s just look at this:
To show everyone exactly what kind of people you are:

Then one day you guys go ahead and delete this too:
Which I spent a long time writing—really putting effort into it—and which I had already discussed countless times via DM with positivex:

The amount of mindless junk posted on this Reddit is insane, yet my long, thoughtful post gets nuked without any explanation whatsoever.

There is absolutely no reason to delete a post that I struggled to write, a post that was constructive and wasn't trying to bait anyone or stir the pot!
It was purely meant as a little nudge for positivex to actually think about... well, my post, to start with...

And it was written specifically to see if positivex has changed at all or stayed the same... stuff like that...
What exactly was harmful or malicious about my post?

Nothing at all—and the same goes for the notice regarding people using the ignore function.

This is a general discussion thread, not some random one-off topic that shouldn't be brought up, or whatever excuse you want to use.

You’re doing this out of pure spite and malice!
The way you act... well, karma works. It'll come back to you.

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positivex said:That's a bit of an oversimplification. I was thinking more generally about habits... not just the desire to judge someone's character.
Here are a few attempts at changing my own habits and personality. I won't go into full detail here, but for the sake of the thread:
1. Eat soup... you have to eat soup... all those philosophies about soup and the consequences of not having enough, and how it affects my health... etc.
Even though I don't like eating soup, I won't eat it, and I don't intend to. I made that quite clearly.🙄
Back then I was young and foolish, and after being told about soup about 234 times, I almost had it served to me on a silver platter with a side of attitude. Like, seriously? Nowadays I eat it, but only because I have to follow the rules.😁

2. You need this, you need that, you aren't this, you aren't that—as if my life follows some standard manual... why is that cup there instead of here? You need this... you're doing it wrong regardless of whether it works. You aren't like Dorothy, Susan, or Renata... plus...
The constant pressure to break my habit of relaxing when I get home from work. I'd immediately jump into the next task, and if I sat down... why did you sit down? Why are you always sitting? Why are you watching that stupid Oprah or those documentaries that make you dull? Read this, wash that, tidy this... who in their right mind walks in the rain and goes daydreaming at this age? Who doesn't like cooked food? You're supposed to eat stew. Why don't I just straighten my hair?
The nagging. It ended with me just telling them to go to hell and buy a dog so they can train that instead.
Man, when I remember that...😁

3. Why do I listen to this music instead of that? Why don't I wear mini skirts but then I wear makeup? Why do I need peace and quiet here and there? I'm stupid because I don't know how to play poker. Why do I sleep instead of running up Mount Rainier? Why don't I wash the dishes this way instead of that? Why am I always in a good mood, isn't that unnatural? Why don't I change and wear pantyhose? Why don't I like marriage? Why do I laugh at silly shows like Muck? Why do I hum? Don't do this, you don't need that. 🙄

4. Why don't I constantly whine about work troubles like others do? Because whining is a sign of closeness. "Stephanie told me this, and I told Stephanie that, and she's the boss..."
Why don't I send those ridiculous love texts early in the morning before 8:00 AM just to prove... I don't even know what.🙄Why don't I do things my way? Why should I follow some specific method just because someone else did it that way once—exactly like that instead of this? Why won't I pick this or that immediately? Why do I refuse to accept all that agnostic nonsense, even if it doesn't actually bother me? How can you say you don't have time?
Why are you here and not there... why don't you like pizza (though in the end, I ate it even though I hate it and shouldn't be eating it anyway)
And of course, everyone gets moody, or tries to blackmail people—even passively, I guess

I mixed up the characters and the situations, but... it was fun.😁
My God, what kind of idiots are out there... I couldn't believe it.
Especially back before the "rescue" when they'd call me "sweetie, you know..."—as if "sweetie" is just for me, or if they could say, "honey, can I tell you something?"🙄
Luckily, fate has a way of circling back to people like that... you should see how they're total losers now, getting chewed out by their wives like puppies. Honestly, those fake "saviors" should just be cut out of your life as soon as possible so they don't weigh you down or nag you.

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Bye, lady!

It surprises me that you, with what seems like a pretty level-headed female brain, still argue about eating soup or stew today.
That’s just a stubborn streak in you, I guess.
Obviously, cooked food is good.
And variety is the spice of life.
I mean, if you really don't like it and it bugs you—then don't eat it. But I think it's a lie to claim someone wouldn't want to eat soup, stew, or a hearty casserole.

Sure, there's oatmeal, rice, bananas, etc., for digestion...
But then you're just compensating for it...

Do you at least eat greens with boiled potatoes and meat in that classic combo? 😁
I assume you're familiar with that...

Come on, for goodness' sake, write it here or send me a DM with your menu; I'm genuinely curious right now...

It's like when I tell someone next to me, "Hey, drink this tea—you'll feel better," but they refuse, choosing to suffer through the pain even though the tea would almost certainly help. But no, they can't drink it because apparently, that specific tea isn't good enough for them.
Stubbornness, and it's harmful, isn't it?

And what happens if you get, say, an intestinal issue and the doctors tell you, "It's because you didn't eat this or that"... and then you're forced to eat everything you refused to eat earlier just to save your health?
Who would be considered crazy or stupid then? Or would you perhaps admit that you should have listened to some well-meaning advice???
Or would you still just insist on doing things your way???

You have to admit your faults once in a while, don't you?

Or like if you smoke or drink too much... stuff like that...
Of course, a smart person would defend themselves, but you'd just act tough and stay stubborn.
Because that's just your nature—you know what you're like...

Look, I'd love for you to be my girl and listen to things that are good for your health—forget the nettles or whatever...
(And now you're probably going to get defensive...)
Honestly, you're a bit older now, so hopefully, you'll admit to certain things.
Or would you think I'm trying to lash out because I hate you and want to mistreat you?
I really wonder...
Or maybe you'd consider why I actually want this...
I'm really curious.

Why would anyone be in a relationship if they didn't care about these things, and if she didn't care about them for me too?

It feels to me—since I read your post on another thread today—that you might have corrected a few things about yourself... or am I mistaken...

There are differences... culture, fairness, health issues, and just some senseless whims...

Or like if you walk into a restaurant like a total amateur and they tell you, "Wash this way, because it's faster and better," and it truly is much better than what you're doing, but you still insist on your own way because you can't do otherwise due to stubbornness, and then you end up getting fired, for example...

Think about it...

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So that's who you are, and that's what you do... that's the kind of Reddit you run...
Nick and the crew, I've told the truth... and you guys can lie if you want, whatever you want...

There, I've said too much about you... let people come to their own conclusions from the countless evidence provided.
Whether it’s mine or someone else's... what is wrong with you people...

Look, I’m really not expecting anything intelligent from this group...

Maybe if things actually changed—if you just cleared out the toxic elements—but honestly, I doubt it...

I’ll just say it with a smile: 🙂
"You reap what you sow."

It’s a classic proverb for a reason, and you're going to get exactly what you deserve...
mistyhound94 mistyhound94 Active Member
62 messages
joined Jun 2012
#4 ·
tl;dr
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Paul Scott4 Paul Scott4 Newcomer
5 messages
joined May 2012
#5 ·
Only three parts? Seriously? That’s definitely not the thorough, studio-quality graniteviper82 we all know and love reading.

It’s pretty obvious you were rushing through this and cutting corners where you shouldn't have. I guess maybe you should just sit down tomorrow, actually give it some thought, and write up at least another ten cards detailing everything that bugs you about this Reddit. Then we can move forward. Doing it half-baked like this just doesn't make sense.
quietfox384 quietfox384 Active Member
112 messages
joined Jul 2021
#6 ·
mistyhound94 said:tl;dr
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Does anyone have a quick summary? 🤣
rustydrifter10 rustydrifter10 Regular
693 messages
joined Apr 2011
#7 ·
You’re out here attacking the mods, and honestly, that’s exactly why you’re getting deleted and banned. You keep digging up ancient threads just to spout nonsense, then turn around and tell everyone on the thread that you sent them a DM—all because your previous post, where you were criticizing the admins, got nuked from a discussion that hasn't been touched in five years. Look, once you actually have something meaningful to contribute to the conversation, feel free to chime in. Until then, don't act surprised when you get hit with deletions and bans.

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