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Credit score experiences: What to expect?

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Participants quietpuma21Steven Price11Samuel CollinsHenry Barrett4casualmoose14Susan Lewis19Richard Wrightshadowdrifter15Larry Harris93Rebecca Green7Ashley WhiteKate Hill3
quietpuma21 quietpuma21 NewcomerOP
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#1 ·
Let's try this approach: since I'm on a blacklist, JPMorgan Chase rejected my restructuring request, which means I can't set up monthly payments for collection $500 over the next two years. Does anyone have experience working with licensed credit bureaus? I'm lost on where to turn to settle this debt, and I'm wondering if anyone has dealt with these credit mediation services before.
Steven Price11 Steven Price11 Newcomer
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#2 ·
quietpuma21 said:Let's try this approach: since I'm on a blacklist, JPMorgan Chase rejected my restructuring request, which means I can't set up monthly payments for collection $500 over the next two years. Does anyone have experience working with licensed credit bureaus? I'm lost on where to turn to settle this debt, and I'm wondering if anyone has dealt with these credit mediation services before.

Credit brokers are just middlemen; they should have signed agreements with major banks. They facilitate the process, but the banks hold the final say on approvals. If you can't get approved by a bank directly, and then somehow get approved through a broker, consider it a red flag and walk away.
And stay far away from anyone offering loans out of their own pocket rather than through established financial institutions.
quietpuma21 quietpuma21 NewcomerOP
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#3 ·
A very polite woman called me and walked me through the whole process. They mostly operate through banks, using JPMorgan Chase as their primary hub, though they work with others like Wells Fargo too. She mentioned she’d try to coordinate everything through JPMorgan Chase. I truly hope this isn't some kind of scam....
Steven Price11 Steven Price11 Newcomer
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#4 ·
Most of them operate through various financial institutions—think JPMorgan Chase, Wells Fargo, or even Citi. They gather all the paperwork and pass it along to the bank. If the bank turns you down, the intermediary rejects you too.
The only other option is a loan shark. There isn't a third.
Samuel Collins Samuel Collins Member
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joined Dec 2014
#5 ·
Forget those credit brokers. They’ll just try to upsell you some useless extra insurance or pocket a fat commission for something you can easily handle on your own by walking straight into a bank. 😉
quietpuma21 quietpuma21 NewcomerOP
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#6 ·
I understand the situation, but I am confused about how a licensed company actually clears a blacklisted status. I was just turned down by my primary bank due to my credit report. Does anyone have experience working with credit bureaus or brokers? Their websites look incredibly polished, claiming they can resolve blacklists and frozen assets, but I’ve been burned before. I would truly appreciate any recommendations, advice, or even just a heads-up...
Henry Barrett4 Henry Barrett4 Newcomer
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#7 ·
Has anyone here actually gone through the process of securing a loan via Fannie Mae?
I'm curious to hear what your experiences have been like.
casualmoose14 casualmoose14 Member
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joined Jun 2010
#8 ·
quietpuma21 said:I understand the situation, but I am confused about how a licensed company actually clears a blacklisted status. I was just turned down by my primary bank due to my credit report. Does anyone have experience working with credit bureaus or brokers? Their websites look incredibly polished, claiming they can resolve blacklists and frozen assets, but I’ve been burned before. I would truly appreciate any recommendations, advice, or even just a heads-up...

Let me share my own experience... I have a loan myself and I’m acting as a guarantor for my brother. I walk into my local bank, and they reject us immediately—saying we don't meet the credit requirements. Fine. So, I go to a friend of mine who works at the bank... she tells me there's absolutely no way to get anything approved because you need to maintain a certain amount of liquidity, blah, blah, blah... Then, I go to a credit broker, and they manage to set up not one, but two separate loans for us... and I'm talking about big players like Sperber or Chase, not some small outfits like Kent or Imex.
It makes me wonder: how is it possible that my friend working right there at Chase tells me it's impossible, yet I take those exact same papers to a broker and suddenly I'm approved by Chase? Sure, I end up dropping about $300 on insurance fees... but I actually get the loan...
Samuel Collins Samuel Collins Member
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#9 ·
casualmoose14 said:Let me share my own experience... I have a loan myself and I’m acting as a guarantor for my brother. I walk into my local bank, and they reject us immediately—saying we don't meet the credit requirements. Fine. So, I go to a friend of mine who works at the bank... she tells me there's absolutely no way to get anything approved because you need to maintain a certain amount of liquidity, blah, blah, blah... Then, I go to a credit broker, and they manage to set up not one, but two separate loans for us... and I'm talking about big players like Sperber or Chase, not some small outfits like Kent or Imex.
It makes me wonder: how is it possible that my friend working right there at Chase tells me it's impossible, yet I take those exact same papers to a broker and suddenly I'm approved by Chase? Sure, I end up dropping about $300 on insurance fees... but I actually get the loan...


Either your friend doesn't know how to do her job, or that broker has a connection inside the bank where they're splitting commissions—someone's risking their neck getting fired if an internal audit catches wind of it or if the borrower defaults later.
Susan Lewis19 Susan Lewis19 Newcomer
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#10 ·
casualmoose14 said:Let me share my own experience... I have a loan myself and I’m acting as a guarantor for my brother. I walk into my local bank, and they reject us immediately—saying we don't meet the credit requirements. Fine. So, I go to a friend of mine who works at the bank... she tells me there's absolutely no way to get anything approved because you need to maintain a certain amount of liquidity, blah, blah, blah... Then, I go to a credit broker, and they manage to set up not one, but two separate loans for us... and I'm talking about big players like Sperber or Chase, not some small outfits like Kent or Imex.
It makes me wonder: how is it possible that my friend working right there at Chase tells me it's impossible, yet I take those exact same papers to a broker and suddenly I'm approved by Chase? Sure, I end up dropping about $300 on insurance fees... but I actually get the loan...

Which credit bureau are you talking about?
Richard Wright Richard Wright Active Member
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#11 ·
Let’s get one thing straight from the jump: there are a lot of misconceptions floating around here, and frankly, some people are using banking terminology completely wrong. I don’t expect everyone to be an expert—that’s exactly why professionals exist. It is our job to break down the fine print and make sense of your finances for you.
To clear the air, let’s lay out the facts:
Credit bureaus = the media's version of a "blacklist" 🙂
Credit brokers = licensed companies overseen by the Department of the Treasury 👍

So, how do credit brokers actually operate?
We track the terms offered by every single bank on the market. We "possess critical insights that you simply won't find through standard marketing, online searches, or even walking directly into a branch."
What that means in plain English is that we provide professional advice alongside a comprehensive overview of all available banks, saving you massive amounts of time and ensuring you make the right choice.

We work daily with numerous branches across several major banks, so we know exactly what gets approved and where. You would be surprised at the discrepancies in how creditworthiness is assessed, and just how much banks dig into beyond your basic credit report. All of this is done to ensure the long-term stability of the loan for the lender.

Because of market shifts and the varying seasonal "strategies and needs" of different institutions, lending terms can change on a weekly or even daily basis. Generally speaking—though it's not a hard rule—the top three or four big players hunt for the best clients, while other banks handle the rest.

Fixing a messy history
Look, if you’ve been irresponsible and ended up on a "black list," or if your Credit report is looking ugly, there might still be a path forward. If other financial parameters look good to a specific lender and the application is put together correctly and presented to the right bank, there is a chance they will approve the credit.
And yes, there are regional differences, city-to-city variations, or even differences between branches of the exact same bank. It comes down to the human factor.

Since this past summer, following much stricter regulatory pressure from the Federal Reserve, banks have stopped being as lenient with risky clients as they used to be.

Unfortunately, options are shrinking for clients with poor history who don't have a co-signer. My advice? Be careful and pay your obligations on time.

How do they get paid?
Never give anyone money upfront—if they ask for cash before the deal is done, they aren't going to solve your problem, and they are almost certainly unlicensed. On the flip side, respect the role of the professionals; you'll see that some earn less (or sometimes the same) per loan than the banks do. Fees are paid via the bank and/or through insurance policies tied to the bank's benefit. It is very rare to see it handled through a personal checking account, and if it were, that fee MUST be documented in your loan agreement.

Total security, provided you do your homework
"We are licensed credit brokers under the Department of the Treasury—every client we work with is protected just as they would be at a bank. This is mandated by the Consumer Credit Act, bank secrecy laws, and above all, our own internal protocols and professional ethics." Now, I can personally guarantee that regarding my own firm, but I cannot speak for every broker out there.

The gap in professionalism, ethics, and actual knowledge among brokers is glaringly obvious. Do your Google research before picking someone.🙂

List of licensed agencies:
Just a heads-up: only about 15 agencies actually do this professionally as their primary business, and honestly, I’d only recommend maybe five or six of them.
casualmoose14 casualmoose14 Member
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joined Jun 2010
#12 ·
Samuel Collins said:Either your friend doesn't know how to do her job, or that broker has a connection inside the bank where they're splitting commissions—someone's risking their neck getting fired if an internal audit catches wind of it or if the borrower defaults later.


I’m really not trying to get into who knows their business and who doesn't. Personally, I haven't run into any repayment issues myself, but based on my situation, I don't qualify for credit because of the collateral and co-signer requirements... which, fine, that's just the bank's policy. My point is simply that it feels wrong when a bank pushes you toward a "broker." It makes absolutely no sense to me that they tell me "goodbye" directly, but then once I go through Millie, who hands a 10% cut over to Mary, suddenly everything is fine!
Every single bank works with brokers, so if everyone started getting fired for those kinds of connections...😲
Richard Wright Richard Wright Active Member
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joined May 2010
#13 ·
casualmoose14 said:I’m really not trying to get into who knows their business and who doesn't. Personally, I haven't run into any repayment issues myself, but based on my situation, I don't qualify for credit because of the collateral and co-signer requirements... which, fine, that's just the bank's policy. My point is simply that it feels wrong when a bank pushes you toward a "broker." It makes absolutely no sense to me that they tell me "goodbye" directly, but then once I go through Millie, who hands a 10% cut over to Mary, suddenly everything is fine!
Every single bank works with brokers, so if everyone started getting fired for those kinds of connections...😲

So, did you even bother reading what I wrote? Clearly, it was too long and way too detailed for you... 🙄
And who exactly should be getting fired? Your conclusion is completely muddy...
shadowdrifter15 shadowdrifter15 Newcomer
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#14 ·
Looks like I've got some experts in the house! So, here’s my dilemma: which bank would actually cut a check for an $80,000–$100,000 $0.00 loan
for someone young? I've been working steadily in healthcare—doing med tech work at a hospital—for three years now, but since I don't have a permanent, full-time contract yet, I'm wondering where I stand.
casualmoose14 casualmoose14 Member
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#15 ·
Richard Wright said:So, did you even bother reading what I wrote? Clearly, it was too long and way too detailed for you... 🙄
And who exactly should be getting fired? Your conclusion is completely muddy...

Look, I’m sorry, but I didn't even bother replying because I haven't even read your post yet... it's just too much to digest... I really don't have the energy for it!
Larry Harris93 Larry Harris93 Newcomer
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#16 ·
How much of an uphill battle is it for someone on a fixed-term contract—we're talking signing six-month deals for years now—to land even a tiny $3,000 loan if they're stuck on a blacklist? (The blacklist was triggered because I fell behind on two payments, though my current loan is being handled fine and I've been staying on top of everything the last few months.)

Thanks
Richard Wright Richard Wright Active Member
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#17 ·
Larry Harris93 said:How much of an uphill battle is it for someone on a fixed-term contract—we're talking signing six-month deals for years now—to land even a tiny $3,000 loan if they're stuck on a blacklist? (The blacklist was triggered because I fell behind on two payments, though my current loan is being handled fine and I've been staying on top of everything the last few months.)

Thanks

It’s definitely not impossible. Your best bet? Find a solid co-signer. Someone with a steady job at a reputable company and a spotless credit report.
Susan Lewis19 Susan Lewis19 Newcomer
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joined Feb 2013
#18 ·
So, here’s the deal—I stumbled upon the only online ad I could find claiming this firm offers loans to people currently out of work for smaller amounts (around 40 $0.00) and much higher sums for those with jobs, regardless of their current debt load. The whole process sounds wild: apparently, their notary meets up with you, brings the cash, and then you just cover the processing fees and an insurance policy, and that's it. Honestly, my gut says it’s some kind of scam, but since they aren't asking for money upfront—it's all handled at the same time—I'm struggling to wrap my head around how they could actually pull a fast one on me... and if something like this is even legally possible in the US?
Rebecca Green7 Rebecca Green7 Active Member
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#19 ·
Susan Lewis19 said:So, here’s the deal—I stumbled upon the only online ad I could find claiming this firm offers loans to people currently out of work for smaller amounts (around 40 $0.00) and much higher sums for those with jobs, regardless of their current debt load. The whole process sounds wild: apparently, their notary meets up with you, brings the cash, and then you just cover the processing fees and an insurance policy, and that's it. Honestly, my gut says it’s some kind of scam, but since they aren't asking for money upfront—it's all handled at the same time—I'm struggling to wrap my head around how they could actually pull a fast one on me... and if something like this is even legally possible in the US?

That sounds completely sketchy. Do you happen to know which company we're talking about or what kind of insurance policy is being signed? The idea of a notary acting as a "broker" in this whole setup is highly irregular.
Ashley White Ashley White Member
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joined Sep 2019
#20 ·
What’s your take on this ad (aside from the complete lack of basic literacy):

LOANS FOR THE UNEMPLOYED UP TO $50,$0.00, LOANS FOR
EMPLOYED AND RETIREES—BLACKLISTS DON'T MATTER, JUST REACH OUT
WITH CONFIDENCE, SAME-DAY APPROVAL.

I won't even bother advertising them here, since you can find the number and email on Google easily enough.

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