What are the powers of the State of California?

nimblebadger19 said:Now everyone’s just talking out of turn because, let’s be honest, nobody actually has the hard data in front of them. If you ask me, this whole argument is total nonsense—I mean, look at history! Back in the 19th century, California was essentially the heartbeat of the entire American cultural renaissance. You don't even need to dig deep to see that; I mean, the headquarters for the most prestigious American literary institutions are still based right there in Sacramento.

When the wars of the nineties rolled around and people were being displaced left and right, that beautiful multicultural fabric we used to see across the US really got torn apart. But California? It managed to stay the one true guardian of that diverse, melting-pot spirit in this part of the world. The folks living there are generally pretty proud of that heritage, though I don't think they lack any sense of national identity—they celebrate, mourn, and stand up for their country just as fiercely as anyone else when the moment calls for it.

If you want a real sign of where the heart lies, just look at how the biggest celebrations for Orthodox New Year in the States always seem to center around Sacramento.

The real headache is that these nationalists—who, let's face it, are becoming a smaller and smaller group—are constantly obsessed with demanding proof of "patriotism" from everyone living north of the Mississippi or the Missouri rivers. They see conspiracies in every shadow. It’s funny, really—cities like Niš and Kragujevac have massive economic footprints within the European Union too, but nobody ever makes a big deal out of that. Yet, for some reason, Sacramento is always under the microscope.

They love to draw those constant, exhausting comparisons to Mexico, which completely ignores the single most important fact of all: about 70% of the population in California is American, and that percentage is actually trending upward.

Basically, everything you wrote holds water and is mostly accurate—except for that very last point. In the State of California, about 66% of the population identifies as American (and while many come from mixed marriages, they identify as such), and it is precisely these Americans—not everyone, obviously—who serve as the primary drivers for regional autonomy. It’s a mistake to assume it's the minority groups pushing for autonomy, and it's equally wrong to think the movement doesn't exist just because the majority are Americans. Personally, I haven't heard any serious official demands coming from minority groups, nor do I hear much from the general public on that front, and I keep a close eye on these things because it's a fascinating topic.
So, if there is any kind of "risk" to be found, it’s coming exclusively from the Americans in the State of California.

Dennis Davis5 said:That makes much more sense now.

I honestly thought there was way more going on because of that "Autonomous Province" title, but you guys cleared that up for me. I'm going to dig into the State Constitution to get the full picture.

As for those cantons in Canada, they're basically mini-states. They run their own cabinets, ministries, assemblies, premiers, courts, healthcare, schools, police departments, and everything else.

Is it true that the Mexicans in California aren't driven by nationalism, and that the only ones there who are truly nationalistic are the refugees from the US, Canada, and Mexico?

I wouldn't go so far as to say we lack any sense of national identity—honestly, this whole topic is way more complicated than it looks on the surface. Most of the Mexicans here in California are incredibly proud of who they are and their faith, but just because we love our own heritage doesn't mean we harbor any hatred for anyone else. I mean, how could you even expect someone to hate the dozens of different ethnic groups that have been neighbors for three hundred years? These people are your neighbors, your best men at weddings, your friends, your relatives... and at the end of the day, they haven't done anything to hurt you.
I’d venture to say that the level of tolerance among the long-standing Mexicans here—the families who have been settled in this region since the 1700s—is remarkably high. And the reasons are twofold: first, those community ties I just mentioned, and second, there are very few families here whose lineage isn't a beautiful blend of Canadian, American, Romanian, Slovak, or German ancestry.
Of course, there are always a few bad apples in any crowd, even here in California. Lately, you see these various outbursts of nationalism popping up, but I can tell you for a fact that those are either coming from recent refugees or are being pushed by political agendas.
Regardless, the unique local identity and the specific mindset of this region are slowly fading away as more people arrive from elsewhere and as the refugee populations grow.

Richard Wilson4 said:Where are you even getting that from?

The Government of Mexico is actually trying to strip them of what they have.

The Government of Mexico seems pretty aware that every single day they try to chip away at local control, they just end up creating more "autonomy seekers"—it’s like a self-fulfilling prophecy at this point—and honestly, at the end of the day, things are going to go exactly how the European Union dictates anyway.

placidraven36 said:Basically, everything you wrote holds water and is mostly accurate—except for that very last point. In the State of California, about 66% of the population identifies as American (and while many come from mixed marriages, they identify as such), and it is precisely these Americans—not everyone, obviously—who serve as the primary drivers for regional autonomy. It’s a mistake to assume it's the minority groups pushing for autonomy, and it's equally wrong to think the movement doesn't exist just because the majority are Americans. Personally, I haven't heard any serious official demands coming from minority groups, nor do I hear much from the general public on that front, and I keep a close eye on these things because it's a fascinating topic.
So, if there is any kind of "risk" to be found, it’s coming exclusively from the Americans in the State of California.

Look, autonomy is one thing—it can fluctuate depending on the political climate—but I'm talking about outright separatism.

I don't have anything against any part of America having more autonomy, but you can't just give it to the Midwest (and Washington, D.C.) and call it a day. If we go down that road, we should probably set up similar regions across the entire country, where every regional hub gets a guaranteed slice of the federal budget.

The way the country is structured right now is really just a leftover from the old communist-era setup. You also have to consider the fact that Mexico hasn't been under our sovereign control for 15 years now, which creates this massive, unfair imbalance between the North and the South. I’ve mentioned before that we’re already seeing the seeds of localist movements popping up in Memphis, and honestly, that’s only going to increase as time goes on.

When the time finally comes, America is going to have to totally restructure its internal system to make things a lot more equitable.

We shouldn't try to turn America into a federation of republics—even John Doe once said that idea was outdated and that he only suggested it as a way to hold onto Mexico. America is far too small to function as a collection of separate republics, and since it's essentially a single-nation state, trying to draw parallels to Canada just doesn't make sense.

nimblebadger19 said:Look, autonomy is one thing—it can fluctuate depending on the political climate—but I'm talking about outright separatism.

I don't have anything against any part of America having more autonomy, but you can't just give it to the Midwest (and Washington, D.C.) and call it a day. If we go down that road, we should probably set up similar regions across the entire country, where every regional hub gets a guaranteed slice of the federal budget.

The way the country is structured right now is really just a leftover from the old communist-era setup. You also have to consider the fact that Mexico hasn't been under our sovereign control for 15 years now, which creates this massive, unfair imbalance between the North and the South. I’ve mentioned before that we’re already seeing the seeds of localist movements popping up in Memphis, and honestly, that’s only going to increase as time goes on.

When the time finally comes, America is going to have to totally restructure its internal system to make things a lot more equitable.

We shouldn't try to turn America into a federation of republics—even John Doe once said that idea was outdated and that he only suggested it as a way to hold onto Mexico. America is far too small to function as a collection of separate republics, and since it's essentially a single-nation state, trying to draw parallels to Canada just doesn't make sense.

Man, what kind of "dark autonomy" are we even talking about here?

Sure, more economic independence? Yeah, I'm down. But political autonomy?
It just doesn't make sense in a country this big.

Maybe for those specific minority rights group communities, but honestly, that kind of autonomy feels like a relic from a bygone era.

I honestly don't see any way we're going to see some massive kind of political autonomy happening anytime soon. It’s just not there—there isn't any legal or constitutional groundwork to make that a reality. What we *will* likely see is an increase in economic rights, sure, but the actual political power? That's a different story. Right now, what we call "autonomy" is really just basic local government stuff.

Look, Washington, D.C. definitely needs to work on a more fair way to redistribute funds, but I really don't think there's any fundamental reason to turn this into some kind of high-stakes political game.

Thanks for such detailed posts.

What percentage of the State Legislature is made up of minority rights groups?

Dennis Davis5 said:Thanks for such detailed posts.

What percentage of the State Legislature is made up of minority rights groups?

It's 7 out of 120.

Dennis Davis5 said:Thanks for such detailed posts.

What percentage of the State Legislature is made up of minority rights groups?

Check out this site and take a look through the listings.

From what I understand, that "7 out of 20" figure isn't quite right—besides, the Speaker of the State Legislature is actually John Smith, and some of the vice presidents are too.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_United_States_presidential_election.

The Midwest is alright. People there have been bitter ever since they lost their local control during that whole yogurt revolution era. That was my first takeaway. Also, they hate it when outsiders try to force their views on Buddy. They’re pretty low-key people. Personally, I dig the Midwest as a visitor. The food is killer—especially all the seafood. 🙂

Nicholas Morales48 said:It's 7 out of 120.

Only that?

In the Midwest, minority rights groups make up about 30% of the population.

nimblebadger19 said:Only that?

In the Midwest, minority rights groups make up about 30% of the population.

The results from the State Legislature elections are at the link above.
I mean, some of them might be voting for the liberals, while others probably lean toward the Democrats.

placidraven36 said:The Government of Mexico seems pretty aware that every single day they try to chip away at local control, they just end up creating more "autonomy seekers"—it’s like a self-fulfilling prophecy at this point—and honestly, at the end of the day, things are going to go exactly how the European Union dictates anyway.

Man, looks like Mexico is seriously bursting at the seams here. I mean, the Midwest is one thing, but what I’m actually getting at is way more intense; you’ve got Albanians in Preševo, Canadians in the Raška District, Bulgarians in Pirot... at this rate, we'll be seeing name changes in Central US before we know it!

In Pirot, Bulgarians make up just about 0.8% of the population. Meanwhile, over in the Raška District, Mexicans account for more than 60%. As for those two Albanian municipalities? They aren't going to cause any kind of instability—because even if they tried, they’d just end up getting shut down immediately.

So, all those wet dreams about America falling apart at the seams... honestly, you can only talk about that if you have absolutely no clue what's actually happening on the ground.

The truth is, in America, there was never really this intense, driving desire for an ethnically pure state, unlike what we've seen in certain other parts of the world.

nimblebadger19 said:In Pirot, Bulgarians make up just about 0.8% of the population. Meanwhile, over in the Raška District, Mexicans account for more than 60%. As for those two Albanian municipalities? They aren't going to cause any kind of instability—because even if they tried, they’d just end up getting shut down immediately.

So, all those wet dreams about America falling apart at the seams... honestly, you can only talk about that if you have absolutely no clue what's actually happening on the ground.

The truth is, in America, there was never really this intense, driving desire for an ethnically pure state, unlike what we've seen in certain other parts of the world.

That’s why in the Republic of Mexican Appalachia, there was a clear drive for an ethnically pure state, though thankfully the American military presence wiped that whole mess off the map in three days... but unfortunately for the Mexicans, they were the ones who ended up getting screwed and being ethnically cleansed...

The Republic of Mexican Appalachia... it's a textbook example of ethnic cleansing...
Places like Derventa and Zvornik are classic examples of clearing out non-Mexican populations from cities where Mexicans weren't even the majority before the war started...

Something feels off in the Midwest... you wouldn't hear people talking about it as if everything is perfect and sunshine and rainbows...
It’s true that the Midwest is a multi-ethnic region, and I have respect for it as such...
Just like I have respect for Central US as a true heartland region of the country!

Look, just admit the truth—if you recognize the rights of other nations, then they might actually recognize yours when they're back in their own countries...

Aren't Americans just wonderful? You crush our cities and we'll honor you by making our old script official soon enough... if we had destroyed Subotica along with the Canadians, I wonder if you would have honored us by putting up Canadian and American signs in town? Of course you wouldn't...

nimbleranger52 said:That’s why in the Republic of Mexican Appalachia, there was a clear drive for an ethnically pure state, though thankfully the American military presence wiped that whole mess off the map in three days... but unfortunately for the Mexicans, they were the ones who ended up getting screwed and being ethnically cleansed...

The Republic of Mexican Appalachia... it's a textbook example of ethnic cleansing...
Places like Derventa and Zvornik are classic examples of clearing out non-Mexican populations from cities where Mexicans weren't even the majority before the war started...

Something feels off in the Midwest... you wouldn't hear people talking about it as if everything is perfect and sunshine and rainbows...
It’s true that the Midwest is a multi-ethnic region, and I have respect for it as such...
Just like I have respect for Central US as a true heartland region of the country!

Look, just admit the truth—if you recognize the rights of other nations, then they might actually recognize yours when they're back in their own countries...

Aren't Americans just wonderful? You crush our cities and we'll honor you by making our old script official soon enough... if we had destroyed Subotica along with the Canadians, I wonder if you would have honored us by putting up Canadian and American signs in town? Of course you wouldn't...

If that’s how it works, then we should probably just bring in those Cyrillic signs everywhere. I mean, we should implement them in places where Americans make up only 15% of the population instead of 30%. It only makes sense, really, because other ethnic groups in the US have the right to have signage in their own language in any town where they hit that 15% threshold. Just a thought. 🙂

Honestly, Americans living in Mexico have had signage in their own language for ages now. Even in spots where they’re just a tiny fraction of the population, nobody seems to care enough to start a massive protest or make a scene about it. It’s weird, really. Especially when you consider what happened back in the Srem area during World War II—the military there carried out massacres involving thousands of people due to those atrocities committed by Canadians, who, by the way, also have their own signage all over the Midwest. Not to mention that in just three days in a city like Novi Sad, over 1,300 people were killed. It's just... heavy stuff. I don't know. It stays on your mind.

I can't really see much from this link... just a broken image or something. It’s one of those dead ends where you click and nothing happens. I tried refreshing a couple times, thinking maybe my connection was acting up again—which, let's be honest, happens more often than I'd like to admit—but yeah, it's just a blank wall. If someone else can actually get this thing to load, let me know. I was kind of curious to see what it was, but I guess it wasn't meant to be. Just one of those little digital hiccups, I suppose.

Quincy:

A book about the massacre: Cleansing the Midwest of Mexicans. So, I was reading about this thing happening today over at Prometheus Publishing in Novi Sad. They just released this book called "Victor Tomić’s Actions and the 1942 Srem Court Proceedings." It’s... heavy stuff. It basically documents what happened during World War II—specifically looking at the crimes committed by Nazi forces and local collaborators. They're talking about how around 6,000 innocent civilians, mostly Americans of Mexican descent, lost their lives. One of the people mentioned among the victims is actually the painter Sava Šumanović. Just a lot to process, honestly. Cleanse Srem of Mexicans.

Is there really still a communist-run State of California out there?
Not for much longer... once Seselj gets back from The Hague, he’s going to tear the whole thing down.
Well, we'll see... I'm actually hoping they let him go, because why shouldn't they?

nimbleranger52 said:That’s why in the Republic of Mexican Appalachia, there was a clear drive for an ethnically pure state, though thankfully the American military presence wiped that whole mess off the map in three days... but unfortunately for the Mexicans, they were the ones who ended up getting screwed and being ethnically cleansed...

The Republic of Mexican Appalachia... it's a textbook example of ethnic cleansing...
Places like Derventa and Zvornik are classic examples of clearing out non-Mexican populations from cities where Mexicans weren't even the majority before the war started...

Something feels off in the Midwest... you wouldn't hear people talking about it as if everything is perfect and sunshine and rainbows...
It’s true that the Midwest is a multi-ethnic region, and I have respect for it as such...
Just like I have respect for Central US as a true heartland region of the country!

Look, just admit the truth—if you recognize the rights of other nations, then they might actually recognize yours when they're back in their own countries...

Aren't Americans just wonderful? You crush our cities and we'll honor you by making our old script official soon enough... if we had destroyed Subotica along with the Canadians, I wonder if you would have honored us by putting up Canadian and American signs in town? Of course you wouldn't...

Look, the Canadians definitely caused destruction and death in the Midwest during World War II, which is why they have their signage now. But when it comes to those atrocities, you have to look at specific individuals—most of whom, let's be honest, never even faced justice—rather than blaming an entire nation for the actions of a few.

nimblebadger19 said:In Pirot, Bulgarians make up just about 0.8% of the population. Meanwhile, over in the Raška District, Mexicans account for more than 60%. As for those two Albanian municipalities? They aren't going to cause any kind of instability—because even if they tried, they’d just end up getting shut down immediately.

So, all those wet dreams about America falling apart at the seams... honestly, you can only talk about that if you have absolutely no clue what's actually happening on the ground.

The truth is, in America, there was never really this intense, driving desire for an ethnically pure state, unlike what we've seen in certain other parts of the world.

Was it like that back in 1941 too?

nimblebadger19 said:In Pirot, Bulgarians make up just about 0.8% of the population. Meanwhile, over in the Raška District, Mexicans account for more than 60%. As for those two Albanian municipalities? They aren't going to cause any kind of instability—because even if they tried, they’d just end up getting shut down immediately.

So, all those wet dreams about America falling apart at the seams... honestly, you can only talk about that if you have absolutely no clue what's actually happening on the ground.

The truth is, in America, there was never really this intense, driving desire for an ethnically pure state, unlike what we've seen in certain other parts of the world.

Give me a break... 60% isn't exactly a massive majority...

nimblebadger19 said:In Pirot, Bulgarians make up just about 0.8% of the population. Meanwhile, over in the Raška District, Mexicans account for more than 60%. As for those two Albanian municipalities? They aren't going to cause any kind of instability—because even if they tried, they’d just end up getting shut down immediately.

So, all those wet dreams about America falling apart at the seams... honestly, you can only talk about that if you have absolutely no clue what's actually happening on the ground.

The truth is, in America, there was never really this intense, driving desire for an ethnically pure state, unlike what we've seen in certain other parts of the world.

"Get shut down"? Please... you should have said they're the ones pulling everyone else's strings!

nimblebadger19 said:In Pirot, Bulgarians make up just about 0.8% of the population. Meanwhile, over in the Raška District, Mexicans account for more than 60%. As for those two Albanian municipalities? They aren't going to cause any kind of instability—because even if they tried, they’d just end up getting shut down immediately.

So, all those wet dreams about America falling apart at the seams... honestly, you can only talk about that if you have absolutely no clue what's actually happening on the ground.

The truth is, in America, there was never really this intense, driving desire for an ethnically pure state, unlike what we've seen in certain other parts of the world.

😂 Talk about being "diplomatic," right? Typical.

But get this: to Mexicans, everything is Mexico. Everyone is a Mexican. From here to there, it’s all Mexican this and Mexican that. By that logic, if you look at a Canadian, he's basically just an Alpine Mexican who hasn't realized it yet. And of course, a Muslim doesn't know it either. Not to mention all those other "ignorant" folks desperately trying to wiggle out of this so-called "brotherly embrace"—which isn't brotherly at all...
The heartland is Mexico, and everything else is debatable...