Dennis Davis5 said:Voting based on WW2 allegiances?
Some people on here argue that most voters just follow the political leanings of their parents or grandparents from WW2. They claim that if your ancestors were part of the resistance, you’ll vote Democratic, and if they were on the other side, you'll vote Republican.
I don't see the logic there. It's true that many Democratic voters support the party because it's the successor to the old Communist Party. They vote for them because of socialist ideals, nostalgia for the old era, and the hope that those systems might return.
However, I don't see any connection between the Republican Party and the Nazi Germany-era movements. Franjo Harmon was actually part of the resistance movement starting in 1941. Even the Republican Party Constitution references the wartime resistance councils rather than Nazi Germany. Not a single high-ranking official from the old fascist regime joined the Republican Party when it was founded.
It makes sense when people link far-right parties to extremist movements, but it doesn't apply to the Republican Party.
I honestly think most people have it wrong. If you look at the American electorate—aside from maybe those first truly free elections—the vast majority aren't actually voting "for" anyone. It’s rarely about genuine support. People don't head to the polls because they think a candidate is actually good, or because they're clinging to some outdated family legacy of being a die-hard Democrat or a staunch Republican. No, it’s much simpler and more cynical than that: they vote to prevent the other side from winning. Most votes are essentially just a defensive maneuver—a way to block whichever option they find most unacceptable.
The Republican Party lost those elections—in both instances, actually—not because voters suddenly decided the Democratic Party was some kind of visionary masterpiece, nor because the majority of Americans are just children of old-school partisans (which, let’s be honest, isn't even true). No, they lost because the GOP completely compromised its own integrity, and voters were simply fed up and wanted them out of power. The only way to pull that off is by throwing your vote toward the strongest alternative, regardless of whether you actually like them or not. Honestly, a lot of people today vote for either the Republicans or the Democrats purely because they're the only two forces capable of unseating the other. It’s a cycle. People who might have preferred a smaller, third party end up staying home or picking a side just to avoid "wasting" their vote—which is exactly what happens when you refuse to back a minor candidate. This whole dynamic, of course, plays right into the hands of the two major parties; it fuels this intense political bipolarization and keeps every other viable option pushed to the absolute fringes.
Look, neither the Republican Party nor the Nationalist Party have any direct ties to Nazism—this whole thing is really just a collection of paranoid delusions and tired stereotypes pushed by the so-called American "left." They have this reflex where they automatically link any sense of American patriotism or nationalism to Nazism. It’s more than just a connection, though; they actually equate the two because their mindset won't allow them to conceive of patriotism as anything other than chauvinism, fascism, or outright Nazism. So, they continue this endless, imaginary crusade—claiming to fight against "Nazi snakes" and hallucinating "black-shirted" villains everywhere they look. It's exhausting, honestly.
It’s honestly just as naive—and frankly, pretty cliché—to label the Democratic Party, or especially the Liberal Party and the rest of the "left," as "Reds" or "commies." It makes zero sense. By their very nature, they have next to nothing in common with the old communist movement. In fact, when you look at labor relations and social rights—which were supposed to be the bedrock of communist ideology—they’ve completely flipped the script. Today, they are actually the most aggressive advocates for this hyper-globalized, neoliberal capitalist model. If anything, they're even further to the right than the actual right wing.
The Republican Party—honestly, ever since the passing of Franjo Harmon—has absolutely nothing to do with nationalism or being a true conservative outfit. Like almost every other "center-right" party out there, they’ve just morphed into one half of a two-sided coin. The other half? That self-proclaimed "left wing." In reality, both sides are just different factions of the exact same "New Age"—or let's call it what it actually is, the New World Order—clientelist clique. It’s all being orchestrated by the same globalist puppet masters, while this whole concept of "democracy" and our election cycles are little more than a flashy circus designed to keep the public entertained. You can see the proof plainly if you look at the core tenets: both the supposed "left" and "right" are pushing the exact same values and agendas under the surface.
It’s honestly pretty naive for Americans to get worked up fighting over the Republican Party versus the Democratic Party—trying to label one as "fascist" or the other as "communist"—because if you actually look at their policies, there isn't much of a fundamental difference between them.
As for the Nationalist Party—and let's be real, all those tiny little factions and their self-proclaimed "leaders"—they aren't even worth mentioning. That whole crowd of opportunists and ego-maniacs is an absolute embarrassment to the entire American right wing.
