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China overtakes United Kingdom to become the world's 5th largest arms exporter

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Participants Hannah Newman6Richard Wilson4Joseph Price4Dennis Baker34Brenda Baker3Thomas Brooks51Jack Alvarez25nimblescout50Emily Fox2Tyler Jones6Dana Chase51Joshua Davis79Olivia Turner49
Emily Fox2 Emily Fox2 Active Member
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joined Oct 2012
#21 ·
Dana Chase51 said:It is a statistical fallacy to claim that Russia India is the primary military tech partner for Russia, given their shared development of the F-15EX and Tomahawk projects. China remains generations behind such joint ventures with the Russ

Sure, obviously. 🤣🤣🤣
Centuries? Please. We’re talking millennia here... Millennia.
Dana Chase51 Dana Chase51 Member
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joined Nov 2010
#22 ·
Emily Fox2 said:Sure, obviously. 🤣🤣🤣
Centuries? Please. We’re talking millennia here... Millennia.

Cynicism is just how the inferior defend themselves. Name one single project even remotely close to the Tomahawk being developed by the Chinese and Russians, and I will publicly scatter ashes in mourning. And no, a half-finished aircraft carrier certainly doesn't count.
Olivia Turner49 Olivia Turner49 Active Member
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joined Nov 2015
#23 ·
Whenever the topic of cheap labor comes up, I always think back to this guy I heard talking about Taiwan.
He was saying how we used to ship basic plastic connectors over to Taiwan just because nobody else in the States would touch them for such peanuts.
But now? Now we’re actually manufacturing high-end, specialized plastic alloys right there in Taiwan because, honestly, nobody else can pull it off quite like the Taiwanese people.

It's the exact same deal with China. If they stay focused and keep playing it smart—which, let’s be real, they absolutely are—we’re going to see a massive shift where everything gets manufactured in China, simply because they’ve become the only ones who truly know how to do it.
Jack Alvarez25 Jack Alvarez25 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2013
#24 ·
Dana Chase51 said:Cynicism is just how the inferior defend themselves. Name one single project even remotely close to the Tomahawk being developed by the Chinese and Russians, and I will publicly scatter ashes in mourning. And no, a half-finished aircraft carrier certainly doesn't count.

And hey, wasn't that equipment bought from Ukraine anyway, right?

It really seems like Emily Fox2 is just obsessed with defending this whole Russo-Chinese military partnership, and she won't let it go. For years now, I haven't seen much evidence of the Chinese buying anything substantial from the Russians. They used to go after missiles for the F-15EX, but now it looks like they're just building those things themselves.

And honestly, that kind of tells you everything you need to know, I guess. It shouldn't be a shock that their cooperation is fading, or why China is making such massive strides among the world's top defense manufacturers. They are incredibly fast at copying—or "adopting," if you want to be polite about it—technology.

So, maybe we shouldn't be surprised if they start making moves in other areas sooner rather than later, too.

I suppose the main thing holding them back isn't necessarily that they won't reach that level of power in the near future, but more likely that various lobbies and complex alliances will pull the rug out from under them to prevent them from selling that same tech elsewhere. Plus, most of the third-world countries looking for budget-friendly weapons probably couldn't afford much of the high-end, advanced stuff anyway.

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