When to register for sales tax mid-year?

So, I was wondering if it's actually possible to register for sales tax during the current year, even though I haven't sent out a single outgoing invoice since I started my business two years ago, and I didn't go ahead and register for sales tax on my own at the start of this year?
I'd really appreciate any help you guys could give me.

Sure, just file the application before you start any actual business operations.

Richard Howard55 said:Sure, just file the application before you start any actual business operations.

So over these last four years, I've been paying for maybe two or three invoices every single year just to cover my bookkeeping and stuff... do those specific bills have anything to do with the filing process?

Unfortunately, looks like we're stuck waiting until next year then.

Richard Howard55 said:Unfortunately, looks like we're stuck waiting until next year then.

So does that mean it won't even matter when we're looking at outgoing invoices?

Maybe this might be useful (taken from the VAT regulations):

Entrepreneurs launching their business who want the provisions of Section 22, Subsection 2 of the Act applied during their very first year of operation are required to file an application with the IRS to be entered into the VAT register—alongside their initial business activities—no later than before the first taxable delivery of goods or services takes place.

Think about it again, Raymond Martinez10 (and so will 🙂)
The guy's been acting like he isn't even subject to VAT regulations for four years now.
Look at how he’s been handling those bookkeeping invoices. Did he actually claim the input tax?
In my book, business activity involves the incoming side too, not just the outgoing stuff.

Richard Howard55 said:Think about it again, Raymond Martinez10 (and so will 🙂)
The guy's been acting like he isn't even subject to VAT regulations for four years now.
Look at how he’s been handling those bookkeeping invoices. Did he actually claim the input tax?
In my book, business activity involves the incoming side too, not just the outgoing stuff.

I'm thinking along the same lines as Raymond Martinez10, because the article being cited specifically mentions... at the latest before the first DELIVERY.
The moment you open a business today, you have an invoice from the bank; if the law didn't allow people to join the VAT system mid-year, there would be absolutely no reason for such a provision to exist in the first place.
In practice, they’ve always accepted registration into the VAT system regardless of what input invoices were on hand—they just required the IRS transcripts.

wiredmarlin41 said:I'm thinking along the same lines as Raymond Martinez10, because the article being cited specifically mentions... at the latest before the first DELIVERY.
The moment you open a business today, you have an invoice from the bank; if the law didn't allow people to join the VAT system mid-year, there would be absolutely no reason for such a provision to exist in the first place.
In practice, they’ve always accepted registration into the VAT system regardless of what input invoices were on hand—they just required the IRS transcripts.

but you aren't allowed to claim any input tax from previous periods (before you officially entered the VAT system)
or 🤷

Drew Rogers6 said:but you aren't allowed to claim any input tax from previous periods (before you officially entered the VAT system)
or 🤷

Once you officially enter the VAT system, that is when you can start claiming input tax deductions.

That’s it. I’m done. I can't take any more of this: 🙂

The VAT regulations state... "entities must submit a filing to the IRS within the same year they begin operations..."

- so we're looking at a four-year window here

- and there's also the whole issue of submitting final accounts by today. How much time is actually left?

Richard Howard55 said:That’s it. I’m done. I can't take any more of this: 🙂

The VAT regulations state... "entities must submit a filing to the IRS within the same year they begin operations..."

- so we're looking at a four-year window here

- and there's also the whole issue of submitting final accounts by today. How much time is actually left?

I have to admit, I don't see why you're linking the submission of final accounts to the VAT registration process.
Which specific clause mentions that?
Why the sudden stinginess with your words? Where did all those "sausages" go? 🙂

Richard Howard55 said:That’s it. I’m done. I can't take any more of this: 🙂

The VAT regulations state... "entities must submit a filing to the IRS within the same year they begin operations..."

- so we're looking at a four-year window here

- and there's also the whole issue of submitting final accounts by today. How much time is actually left?

That is precisely how I interpret the law as well... The VAT return should be submitted during the same year that operations actually begin...

As an exception, the clock only starts ticking once the taxpayer actually begins operating; if they simply opened the LLC but haven't started working yet—meaning they only sent a notice saying the company isn't active rather than filing a standard tax form—that period doesn't count toward the start date.

The moment that final accounting statement is filed, the business activity is officially recorded...

At least, that is my take on it...

ruggedcyclist74 said:That is precisely how I interpret the law as well... The VAT return should be submitted during the same year that operations actually begin...

As an exception, the clock only starts ticking once the taxpayer actually begins operating; if they simply opened the LLC but haven't started working yet—meaning they only sent a notice saying the company isn't active rather than filing a standard tax form—that period doesn't count toward the start date.

The moment that final accounting statement is filed, the business activity is officially recorded...

At least, that is my take on it...

I completely agree. You hit on the exact crucial point that was missing from my previous post. 👍