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stormyviper12 stormyviper12 Newcomer
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#41 ·
Michael Roberts9 said:Everyone’s gonna end up as an angel eventually, it’s written 🙂 but I can't find the source right now 🙂

My head's a bit scrambled, but we're all returning to God—I definitely pulled that from some quote somewhere 😁

An angel is just someone who reaches perfection. Who knows if they'll even need a wife at that point 🙂


Jesus said: "The people of this age marry and are given in marriage. But those who are deemed worthy of the age to come and of the resurrection from the dead neither marry nor are given in marriage. Truly, they can no longer die: they are equal to Angels and are children of God because they are children of the resurrection." (Luke 20:34-36)

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Benjamin Taylor6 Benjamin Taylor6 Regular
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#42 ·
Michael Roberts9 said:Yeah, I was checking out 🙂 🙂 scrolling through the White Lotus by Osh and stumbled onto some serious wisdom...

"They say Moses' face glowed when he caught a glimpse of God up in the mountains. His face became so radiant that he actually had to cover it, putting a veil over his face. He came back to his people wearing that veil. They were confused and asked him, 'Why are you covering your face?' And Moses replied: 'Because it became so bright, so full of light, and I don't want to look holier than everyone else.' That’s what true holiness is. 'I don't want to prove I'm superior to others, but my face is so filled with light that if I walked among you without a veil, everyone would think I was chosen, that God descended into me, or that my heart was touched and transformed by God.' It's a beautiful story, incredibly significant—that's how the holy always lived: behind a veil. They live like ordinary human beings; that's the point of the story. It doesn't mean they literally hide their faces—you don't need to do that. It's not about hiding, because that just draws even more attention to you."

"You'd expect Buddha to let women into his circle more easily than Mahavira did. But Mahavira allowed them in without any hesitation—not once did he say no. On the day the first woman asked him, he initiated her immediately, just like he did with the men. Yet Buddha kept turning women away for another ten years. His own disciples kept pushing him to change. They’d cry and wail, 'This isn't right!' and he’d just respond, 'I'll think about it.'"

"You can only grasp what you can meet on the level you currently exist. There was this Zen teacher who got caught stealing small things a few times. He was a highly respected teacher, so his students asked him: 'Why are you doing these ridiculous things? What's the point of all this? We're ready to give you whatever you want—you don't have to steal!' But the teacher would just smile and say nothing. He'd get hauled off to jail for a few days, and as soon as he got out, he'd do it again. Near the end of his life, his students finally asked, 'Please, tell us your secret!' And the teacher answered: 'The secret is simple. I wanted to help prisoners in the cell, and they could only understand me if I was a prisoner just like them. There was no other way to help them. I had to drop down to their level so I could help them rise up to mine.'"

Maybe my distant cousin is a sort of undercover female teacher. He’s a professor at a local school, makes a decent salary (he's 54), isn't married, and still lives with his parents. But he loves swiping candy bars from big-box retailers like Walmart. Mind you, he’s never actually been caught. But he doesn't do it because he craves the chocolate; he does it strictly as a protest against the sheer power held by these massive retail chains. 😢😲😁

My first post of the year, so: HAPPY NEW YEAR 2013 TO EVERYONE!

stormyviper12 said:Jesus said: "The people of this age marry and are given in marriage. But those who are deemed worthy of the age to come and of the resurrection from the dead neither marry nor are given in marriage. Truly, they can no longer die: they are equal to Angels and are children of God because they are children of the resurrection." (Luke 20:34-36)

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Honestly, it’s no surprise that followers of Islam don't have much love for Christians. I mean, let’s be real—the Christian version of paradise is completely devoid of sex, 😁
which is a pretty hard sell compared to what they're promised in Islam.
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stormyviper12 stormyviper12 Newcomer
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#43 ·
Benjamin Taylor6 said:Maybe my distant cousin is a sort of undercover female teacher. He’s a professor at a local school, makes a decent salary (he's 54), isn't married, and still lives with his parents. But he loves swiping candy bars from big-box retailers like Walmart. Mind you, he’s never actually been caught. But he doesn't do it because he craves the chocolate; he does it strictly as a protest against the sheer power held by these massive retail chains. 😢😲😁

My first post of the year, so: HAPPY NEW YEAR 2013 TO EVERYONE!

Honestly, it’s no surprise that followers of Islam don't have much love for Christians. I mean, let’s be real—the Christian version of paradise is completely devoid of sex, 😁
which is a pretty hard sell compared to what they're promised in Islam.
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Man, if you convert to Islam, you're looking at a seriously wild sex life...
just think about what that kind of paradise means for some shy guy who's totally repressed... 😛
Michael Roberts9 Michael Roberts9 MemberOP
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#44 ·
stormyviper12 said:Jesus said: "The people of this age marry and are given in marriage. But those who are deemed worthy of the age to come and of the resurrection from the dead neither marry nor are given in marriage. Truly, they can no longer die: they are equal to Angels and are children of God because they are children of the resurrection." (Luke 20:34-36)

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I’m telling you, the devil is inside me, whispering, "Look how great life is, check out those curves, look at those asses..." *slurp* 🙂 🙂 🙂

Man, forget about trying to understand women!!!
You can only feel them!!!

And if your heart is crooked, women will just get even worse for you!!!

My bad, guys 😉
stormyviper12 stormyviper12 Newcomer
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#45 ·
Michael Roberts9 said:I’m telling you, the devil is inside me, whispering, "Look how great life is, check out those curves, look at those asses..." *slurp* 🙂 🙂 🙂

Man, forget about trying to understand women!!!
You can only feel them!!!

And if your heart is crooked, women will just get even worse for you!!!

My bad, guys 😉

That's exactly the whole point!
It’s a total toss-up—on one hand you've got all this insane potential for pleasure, but on the other, it's just pure misery and suffering.

Look, if you ask me, you gotta rise above that whole "pleasure vs. pain" BS to actually get anywhere spiritually. It's all about moving past those basic feelings.
Man, it's a struggle, I swear to God...
Benjamin Taylor6 Benjamin Taylor6 Regular
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#46 ·
Michael Roberts9 said:I’m telling you, the devil is inside me, whispering, "Look how great life is, check out those curves, look at those asses..." *slurp* 🙂 🙂 🙂

Man, forget about trying to understand women!!!
You can only feel them!!!

And if your heart is crooked, women will just get even worse for you!!!

My bad, guys 😉

Has Solomon's "Song of Solomon" actually been translated into American English? 😁
Michael Roberts9 Michael Roberts9 MemberOP
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#47 ·
Nah, 🙂 it’s a song, you just reminded me... before I reached enlightenment, I remember observing everything around me the way they describe in Buddhism. I felt like a pure observer, like I’d actually stepped inside myself! Even in my dreams, I felt wide awake.

It’s basically a song about love—or rather, that feeling you get when you're praying to God. Honestly, I'm almost embarrassed to admit it, I can barely even look at it, but man, it’s important...
Michael Gonzalez77 Michael Gonzalez77 Active Member
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#48 ·
Michael Roberts9 said:Nah, 🙂 it’s a song, you just reminded me... before I reached enlightenment, I remember observing everything around me the way they describe in Buddhism. I felt like a pure observer, like I’d actually stepped inside myself! Even in my dreams, I felt wide awake.

It’s basically a song about love—or rather, that feeling you get when you're praying to God. Honestly, I'm almost embarrassed to admit it, I can barely even look at it, but man, it’s important...

People who jump onto the spiritual path and try to trek it alone without a Master to guide them often end up lost in a maze of false insights and fake awakenings. They have very little—if any—chance of finding their way out. It’s like kids walking to school who get completely distracted by the lights and magic of a traveling carnival.

The distractions on this path are incredibly powerful and seductive. They can trick a seeker even at the very beginning, creating a false sense of Godhood that you simply can't shake off without the help of a Perfect Teacher.
Michael Roberts9 Michael Roberts9 MemberOP
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#49 ·
Honestly, it was pure desperation that pushed me toward God. He called to me a long time ago... we’re all just blind, drifting through our own misery, following whatever path lands us in the gutter. I spent my time digging into the Bible, really sitting with the words of Jesus. What I realized is that when you lie down and take those deep, conscious breaths—just filling yourself with peace while prepping for prayer—everything changes. You start feeling these thoughts surfacing, and if they actually make sense, you have to sit with them. You can't just let them slip away without purpose. One wrong move and you ruin everything ahead of you. You need God’s grace and some actual compassion. It's better to weep internally; that's when you're closer to Him. Some people claim they feel angels or whatever, but look, just pray to God and He will manifest right before your eyes. You'll undergo this massive internal shift, but for that to happen, you have to cut out all the stupid, useless distractions. You've got to let go of the nonsense. Even if you lose your temper or snap, He won't hold it against you if it leads to being filled with strength and momentum. But be careful—there’s no way out once you're in. Once you finally resist temptation, it's crazy how you've already conquered it by the next day. But man, that temptation? It wants you *right now*... what a life.
Michael Roberts9 Michael Roberts9 MemberOP
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#50 ·
But watch out for your imagination—it’s actually more dangerous than the internet. It's where everything starts, and it's the one place you can retreat to if you really want to beat the madness and fight off the temptation 🙂
that devilish stuff. It's just pure earthly nonsense. I've seen some quotes out there that totally twist the page of the white lotus...
Michael Roberts9 Michael Roberts9 MemberOP
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#51 ·
"A man wants to merge with a woman's essence (in my view). If he’s denied that, he starts looking for any way to inhabit some other body. He turns gay. If he can't find a woman, he'll settle for a man. (Is that too blunt? Some guys don't even find women attractive to begin with, right!?) If he can't find a man, he goes for animals. And if that becomes too hard to access, he moves on to rubber dolls—plastic women he can carry in a bag and just inflate whenever he needs a partner. When all options run out, the man just snaps. That suppressed sexual energy turns into rage, and eventually, it turns into a murderous impulse."

Sex is the source of life. That’s how God built existence. It should be respected and honored. Sex is sacred; it’s the most holy phenomenon in existence because it’s the foundation of everything. If life isn't sacred, then sex isn't sacred either. But politicians and priests have conspired against humanity. Politicians wanted soldiers. Priests wanted mindless slaves—obedient little drones. You destroy a person's dignity, and they easily become a submissive servant. (Truth.) And the best way to kill someone's dignity is to force them to fight themselves. They start feeling guilty because they can't win. How do you "win" against sex or food? If you fight your own sexuality, you split in two—you're basically choosing to enter the world of schizophrenics. You get sick. (Truth.) You can never win a fight against your own energy. Fighting your own energy is like trying to fight between your right and left hand (spirit vs. heart, in my opinion). Who wins there? Nobody. Your energy just leaks out and you end up weak. (Truth.) And there are bigger consequences: if you can't master your sex, you'll start feeling so guilty, so ugly, so condemned and worthless that you'll be willing to bow down to any idiot. Anyone who's a good actor, any hypocrite, will become your political leader or your local priest. All they need is hypocrisy; all they need is a facade to hide behind. Your politicians live double lives, and your priests do too—one life at the front door, another at the back. And that life at the back door? That’s their real life. Those smiles at the front door are fake; those innocent faces are just well-groomed. If you want to see a politician for who they really are, catch them at the back door. That’s where they are naked and raw, and that’s why they're priests. (?But that's what it says.) These two cunning types have mastered humanity. They figured out early on that if you want to rule people, you make them weak. Make them feel guilty. Make them feel unworthy. Strip away their dignity, take away their glory, and humiliate them. They found such subtle ways to humiliate people that it's hard to even notice. They let you humiliate and destroy yourself. They taught you a slow form of suicide.

Now, Osho and I are going to clash over this third part, because he disrespected Mother Teresa, and his sister was with Skanderbeg 🙂. Osho is a clever fox, but he didn't realize that God is much more immediate and important than that. Love is the foundation of realizing God. Basically, he claims pornography might help you with the next step, but I'm not backing down on this one. 😉 He says, "Sure, pornography might help a little here, but not much. You'll have to dive deeper into sexual energy. You'll have to learn about tantra again." Everything I'm aiming for is this: I want to present the world with a new tantra, a new vision of love, and an insight into the reality of the orgasm—because the orgasm is your greatest gateway to finding God, harmony, and truth. Gotta go...

Happy New Year 🙂
stormyviper12 stormyviper12 Newcomer
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#52 ·
Osho was such a shady fox. He had no clue that God is way more immediate and important than he let on, and that love is the whole foundation for reaching Godhood.

Watch out for Osho and his crap—he’s already been exposed as a dangerous fraud and a total manipulator:

Before he was Osho

Some stuff in his books is actual wisdom, sure, but most of it is just fake deep. It's all rigged to tell people exactly what they want to hear—because that's when people are at their weakest and most vulnerable—just so he could rack up followers and grab power and cash.
Michael Roberts9 Michael Roberts9 MemberOP
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#53 ·
It’s a losing battle trying to convince me since I’m totally lost here 😁 but honestly, if you haven't even cracked one of his books, you shouldn't be judging.

The guy is Bodhidharma—a lion, pure fire, that's just who he is. I've actually gone through two of his books, including tantra supreme understanding, which made perfect sense to me. I've got it as a PDF.
Michael Roberts9 Michael Roberts9 MemberOP
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#54 ·
https://www.google.com/search?num=10&....1.c0zN-c4uIMA

There’s zero chance this guy is lying. I mean, what kind of premium stuff is he smoking that makes his eyes look that clear and bloodshot-free? 😉
Seriously, take a closer look—those eyes are glowing!
Michael Roberts9 Michael Roberts9 MemberOP
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#55 ·
Basically, my kid’s sweet little voice woke me up this morning and gave me the biggest reality check. That’s how you’re supposed to pray to God—you have to let yourself get completely soft. Only then does the mind finally shut up. Once that happens, you’ll be looking right at God... eventually, you won't even hear your own voice because you'll just be talking to yourself internally. And then? Everything becomes crystal clear.
stormyviper12 stormyviper12 Newcomer
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#56 ·
Michael Roberts9 said:It’s a losing battle trying to convince me since I’m totally lost here 😁 but honestly, if you haven't even cracked one of his books, you shouldn't be judging.

The guy is Bodhidharma—a lion, pure fire, that's just who he is. I've actually gone through two of his books, including tantra supreme understanding, which made perfect sense to me. I've got it as a PDF.

Look, I actually read three of his books before all the drama surrounding him and his work broke out, especially back in Oregon when he set up that whole follower base of his.

"During the 80s, Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh, known as Osho, started a cult in Oregon. His communities were called Rajneeshpuram.
The Indian mystic was a smooth talker who preached spirituality and love, but he had a massive weakness for Rolls-Royce cars. His followers have been linked to several terror attacks, and they allegedly poisoned the local Oregon population with salmonella." (From: The Strangest Cults and Sects of the 20th Century).
Michael Gonzalez77 Michael Gonzalez77 Active Member
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#57 ·
stormyviper12 said:Look, I actually read three of his books before all the drama surrounding him and his work broke out, especially back in Oregon when he set up that whole follower base of his.

"During the 80s, Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh, known as Osho, started a cult in Oregon. His communities were called Rajneeshpuram.
The Indian mystic was a smooth talker who preached spirituality and love, but he had a massive weakness for Rolls-Royce cars. His followers have been linked to several terror attacks, and they allegedly poisoned the local Oregon population with salmonella." (From: The Strangest Cults and Sects of the 20th Century).

That "allegedly" part... honestly, when you deal with any Eastern Master, anything can happen after 20 or 30 years in the USA. 🙂
As far as I know, every one of those Royces was actually given as a gift, and his students were often quite wealthy people, judging by the value of those offerings. Every one of these figures comes with some kind of controversy, but at the end of the day, what matters is the spiritual legacy left behind—the books, the teachings, the philosophy. It’s about how much someone can actually contribute to your spiritual growth.
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#58 ·
Michael Gonzalez77 said:That "allegedly" part... honestly, when you deal with any Eastern Master, anything can happen after 20 or 30 years in the USA. 🙂
As far as I know, every one of those Royces was actually given as a gift, and his students were often quite wealthy people, judging by the value of those offerings. Every one of these figures comes with some kind of controversy, but at the end of the day, what matters is the spiritual legacy left behind—the books, the teachings, the philosophy. It’s about how much someone can actually contribute to your spiritual growth.

He definitely made an impact, sure. His work has some solid lessons and concepts mixed in with a bunch of shady, questionable crap. 🙂

And the guy pushed some seriously messed up ideas too, like euthanizing kids with physical or mental disabilities... 🤷
Michael Gonzalez77 Michael Gonzalez77 Active Member
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#59 ·
stormyviper12 said:He definitely made an impact, sure. His work has some solid lessons and concepts mixed in with a bunch of shady, questionable crap. 🙂

And the guy pushed some seriously messed up ideas too, like euthanizing kids with physical or mental disabilities... 🤷

Look, I get that he contributed to the conversation; I was just adding my two cents. Obviously, his work isn't "holy scripture," and anyone should be scrutinizing everything he wrote—that's just common sense.

But when you look at his stance on something like infant euthanasia, there's a heavy underlying logic there that makes you stop and think. It wasn't just a random, flippant comment. When I see footage of state-run institutions or long-term care facilities where kids with developmental disabilities—or even adults who have been stuck there since they were toddlers—are living in such misery and isolation, it makes you wonder how someone could arrive at such a radical conclusion. It forces you to weigh whether a concept like that is a dark impossibility or a grim kind of solution. At the end of the day, I don't have a definitive answer. I honestly don't know.
Nicholas Gonzalez73 Nicholas Gonzalez73 Newcomer
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#60 ·
Some scholars make the argument that there are significant gaps within the Bible, suggesting that during the various stages of transcription, certain elements were either intentionally removed or simply left out.
They even go as far as to claim that essential components have been stripped from specific prayers, particularly regarding the actual instructions on how one is supposed to pray.

As I’ve mentioned before, their contention is that we are required to already feel a sense of peace and connection within ourselves if we expect our prayers to be fulfilled or heard.
When I really sit with that thought, it actually makes quite a bit of sense, doesn't it? After all, if we are truly asking for something, shouldn't we already possess the faith that it has already come to pass?

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