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High School Guide: Admissions, reviews, and advice

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silentmason4 silentmason4 Member
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#1441 ·
boldbadger1 said:The local technical high school—they've got Google designer tracks (74.37 - 20 spots), media technician programs (72.4 - 20 spots), and computer technicians (75+ - 40 spots).

Just to give you some perspective on how those designer scores stack up elsewhere:

Scranton - 61.17
Des Moines - 64.90
Indianapolis - 61.99
Seattle - 63.99
Pittsburgh - 61.47
Miami - 67.59
San Diego - 70.06
Charleston - 47.61

Now, over in Washington, D.C., they have entrance exams—so people are hitting those 170 marks—which makes it almost impossible to draw a fair comparison, honestly.

How absurd is that? 🤦

hiddendriver34 said:Private schools can be a total game-changer for many kids and parents who have the means. A colleague of mine actually moved her child—who has an IEP—into a private vocational school after finishing sophomore year. Honestly? The kid completely blossomed.

In what sense did they blossom?
I mean, I could totally agree that it's great when kids who struggle in public schools get a way out through private education if their family can afford it—it definitely takes some pressure off the public system—but I feel like socialization is actually more important. And I don't just mean for that one individual (because, let's be real, if they have money and family support, they'll probably be fine regardless), but for the sake of society as a whole.
Carol Kelly3 Carol Kelly3 Member
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#1442 ·
silentmason4 said:How absurd is that? 🤦

In what sense did they blossom?
I mean, I could totally agree that it's great when kids who struggle in public schools get a way out through private education if their family can afford it—it definitely takes some pressure off the public system—but I feel like socialization is actually more important. And I don't just mean for that one individual (because, let's be real, if they have money and family support, they'll probably be fine regardless), but for the sake of society as a whole.

How long is this place going to allow people to spit on and insult students and parents?

Where did you get the idea that kids actually working hard for those A's wouldn't fare better in public schools than the kids getting passing grades just because teachers feel bad for them? Because of how broken the system is, only certain people even have access to the good high schools in New York City.
wanderingbadger77 wanderingbadger77 Active Member
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#1443 ·
If a kid is doing fine in school—no behavioral issues or developmental red flags—then paying for private school is just throwing money down the drain.
The only time private makes sense is for vocational stuff, like training to be a dental tech or something, when you don't have the grades and your old man is willing to bankroll your laziness. But for anyone else, it’s too early to even think about private school because the public system actually provides better resources and a stronger foundation.
Look at the SAT scores; they're pathetic. It’s not even a debate. If Dad pays for private high school, he’s just going to pay for a private college later, whether that’s some local state school or some random half-baked university in Denmark or the Netherlands. That’s the big trend in Miami right now.
When you can't make the cut for a decent state university, you just brag about how you're "studying abroad" in the Netherlands. Nobody ever asks what the actual degree is even in.
It sounds fancy, studying overseas.
hiddendriver34 hiddendriver34 Regular
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#1444 ·
wanderingbadger77 said:If a kid is doing fine in school—no behavioral issues or developmental red flags—then paying for private school is just throwing money down the drain.
The only time private makes sense is for vocational stuff, like training to be a dental tech or something, when you don't have the grades and your old man is willing to bankroll your laziness. But for anyone else, it’s too early to even think about private school because the public system actually provides better resources and a stronger foundation.
Look at the SAT scores; they're pathetic. It’s not even a debate. If Dad pays for private high school, he’s just going to pay for a private college later, whether that’s some local state school or some random half-baked university in Denmark or the Netherlands. That’s the big trend in Miami right now.
When you can't make the cut for a decent state university, you just brag about how you're "studying abroad" in the Netherlands. Nobody ever asks what the actual degree is even in.
It sounds fancy, studying overseas.

Getting into universities in the Netherlands is actually pretty simple—you just need decent SAT scores and a recommendation letter or two from a professor. But actually *finishing* the degree? That's a whole different ballgame. 😉 It is definitely not easy. If you don't pass your first year on schedule, you lose your spot in that specific program and might have to start over from scratch with something else. The thing is, there's zero cheating, no bribery, and no "who you know" connections. Everything is completely transparent. So, even a rich daddy can't pull any strings to help you out.
wanderingbadger77 wanderingbadger77 Active Member
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#1445 ·
I’m not even saying they’re enrolling in prestigious Ivy League schools.
Most of them are just some niche vocational programs that sound fancy on a resume but don't actually lead anywhere.
The kid ends up studying abroad.
From what I see happening around here, these tourism degrees are huge because you can basically do everything online or
semi-online, where you barely show up to class and mostly just log in from home.
There are no scholarships involved either—parents are just cutting massive checks.
mellowskipper mellowskipper Regular
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#1446 ·
If I had money to burn, I would have enrolled my little one in
https://americanacademy.com/school-z...UaApu3EALw_wcB
Honestly, I wouldn't even be stressing over enrollment right now.
It isn't just because of the intellectual property aspect—though that matters—but rather because I am 200% certain the atmosphere there would be so much more encouraging. They seem to have a better, more innovative approach, superior teaching methods, and a much stronger curriculum; not to mention the general vibe and how they guide students toward their future paths. Compared to the local public school system, this place is basically NASA.
hiddendriver34 hiddendriver34 Regular
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#1447 ·
mellowskipper said:If I had money to burn, I would have enrolled my little one in
https://americanacademy.com/school-z...UaApu3EALw_wcB
Honestly, I wouldn't even be stressing over enrollment right now.
It isn't just because of the intellectual property aspect—though that matters—but rather because I am 200% certain the atmosphere there would be so much more encouraging. They seem to have a better, more innovative approach, superior teaching methods, and a much stronger curriculum; not to mention the general vibe and how they guide students toward their future paths. Compared to the local public school system, this place is basically NASA.

Isn't their curriculum pretty much identical to the IB program at MIT? As far as I know, the American schools follow the exact same syllabus for both institutions.
mellowskipper mellowskipper Regular
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#1448 ·
hiddendriver34 said:Isn't their curriculum pretty much identical to the IB program at MIT? As far as I know, the American schools follow the exact same syllabus for both institutions.

To be honest, I haven't actually sat down and studied the specifics—I guess you could say I'm a bit out of the loop there. But, given how massive the price gap is... well, I assume there’s a reason for it. Maybe.
hiddendriver34 hiddendriver34 Regular
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#1449 ·
I totally felt silly for a second! I honestly thought we were talking about an American school over in Brooklyn. I’ve never even heard of this one before. Looking at the photos, they clearly have great gyms and tennis courts, but you know how it goes—it's easy to tell if a school actually delivers on education or if they're just putting on a fancy show with high-end facilities. We'd really need to dig deeper to see if the quality matches the look.
rowdypanther12 rowdypanther12 Regular
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#1450 ·
I used to spend a lot of time thinking about private prep schools, but everything I read back then just didn't sit right with me.
Maybe an elite academy like Phillips Exeter would be an exception—that actually sounds decent.
As for the rest... I'm just not sure. I really don't want my kid ending up in a school where everyone is used to solving every single problem with a credit card; it feels like that's all it ever comes down to.
mellowskipper mellowskipper Regular
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#1451 ·
hiddendriver34 said:I totally felt silly for a second! I honestly thought we were talking about an American school over in Brooklyn. I’ve never even heard of this one before. Looking at the photos, they clearly have great gyms and tennis courts, but you know how it goes—it's easy to tell if a school actually delivers on education or if they're just putting on a fancy show with high-end facilities. We'd really need to dig deeper to see if the quality matches the look.

Yeah, I think she only started working about a year ago—give or take. Though, if I'm being honest, even that other one over in Chicago is alright in my book, I guess.
I suppose I should probably weigh in here—though I’m not entirely sure if my input carries much weight in this particular thread—but there seems to be a certain... tension regarding the recent developments. It feels like we are circling the same drain, repeatedly, without actually addressing the core issue at hand. I mean, I guess one could argue that progress is being made, but from where I’m sitting, it looks more like we’re just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. Not that I want to be overly dramatic—certainly not—but the lack of direction is, well, it's palpable. Maybe I'm just being cynical. Perhaps. But it seems to me that everyone is so focused on the immediate fallout that they've completely lost sight of the long-term implications—which, frankly, are quite significant if you bother to look. Anyway, I'll leave it at that. For now. mellowskipper says:
I was once reflecting quite a bit on the whole private prep school scene—you know, those elite academies you see everywhere—and honestly, based on everything I managed to gather through various readings and conversations back then, nothing I encountered seemed to be working in their favor. It all felt rather questionable, I guess.
Maybe Seselja—though, I guess she actually sounds decent.
As for the rest of it... I don't know. I suppose I just can't shake this feeling—it’s hard to explain, really—but I simply don't want my child going to school surrounded by kids who think every single problem in life can be smoothed over with a credit card. It feels like everything is being reduced to that one thing lately, which is... well, it's unsettling, I guess.

It’s actually the exact opposite here—well, I guess you could say that. Out there, everyone seems to be scrambling toward private preschools and private schools because the quality is just... significantly higher.
rowdypanther12 rowdypanther12 Regular
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#1452 ·
In most developed countries, private schools aren't really a thing
Larry Walker24 Larry Walker24 Veteran
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#1453 ·
rowdypanther12 said:In most developed countries, private schools aren't really a thing

So I guess the USA isn't "normal" then? 🤦
rowdypanther12 rowdypanther12 Regular
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#1454 ·
Honestly, the UK is barely more civilized than the US. Both countries are pretty rough
mellowskipper mellowskipper Regular
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#1455 ·
rowdypanther12 said:In most developed countries, private schools aren't really a thing

I’m a bit lost here—what do you mean when you say private schools don't exist?
Susan James Susan James Veteran
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#1456 ·
I noticed you mentioned proab. I'm not quite sure what you meant by that, but if you were trying to start a conversation or ask a question, please feel free to elaborate! I'm always happy to chat or help out however I can. kaže:
That's coming from someone who spends half their time spreading urban legends themselves!

What's the point of this? ovog Are you guys thinking about enrolling? 😕
Selective reading and nitpicking posts without actually offering any constructive feedback? That’s a tough way to engage.

I wrote this.:

Susan James said:Where did you actually read that if you didn't have perfect grades for four years, you aren't cut out for a prep school?
I never said that. My point is that there are plenty of kids who pass with high marks but still aren't suited for that kind of academic environment:

-Any kid who can't just sit down and study on their own during middle school isn't ready for a rigorous prep school.
-A child who finds it incredibly stressful to handle just a few tests a week isn't built for that lifestyle.
-A kid who skips hanging out with friends or traveling with their parents on long weekends just to maintain an A average isn't meant for that path.
-A child whose entire grade depends on one final exam—not just in one subject, but in most of them—probably isn't ready for that pressure.
-A child whose parent has to take vacation days just to help them finish projects and reading assignments likely won't thrive in a standard academic track; they might be better suited for vocational paths, maybe working at a Coca-Cola plant or training as a chef or pastry artist.

Kids with a 3.8 or 3.9 GPA typically enroll in these schools quite normally.
In Washington, D.C.
Sure, they might not get into those ultra-elite private academies, but honestly, who actually wants their kid studying relentlessly from dawn to dusk? This is the age when they should be falling in love, going to concerts, hanging out in the park, or just being teenagers.
There’s only a tiny percentage of kids who are truly mature enough to know at age 12 that they want to be surgeons and therefore need those top-tier schools.
But those kids are fine; they usually breeze through middle school. They might struggle a bit with gym or art, but even then, they often excel because they're so focused on everything else.

I still stand by everything that was said...

u postu If you look at my previous post from earlier today, I laid out exactly how people start building these myths about whether a school is "too hard" or "too easy." It’s a pattern I see all the time.

Susan James said:If an entrance exam for a dream school is too hard for a kid, then they just aren't ready for that specific school.
And I really stand by that.
I totally get the nerves, the lack of focus, or that crushing realization that one or two silly mistakes could ruin everything... but if the material is genuinely too difficult and they fail, then they aren't a fit for that program (regardless of whether they covered it in middle school or not). If they haven't covered it, that’s a much bigger issue within our education system, but from what I see, parents go to great lengths to prep their kids for these tests—whether through self-study or private tutors—often starting as early as 8th grade. I remember being in a used bookstore around October, and I saw a woman buying textbooks from decades ago to try and teach her child the fundamentals for a top-tier High School. She was listening to stories about rotating teachers, unqualified substitutes, bad classroom environments, and online schooling... and honestly, at the end of the day, all that matters is the knowledge the kid needs for that advanced curriculum. I don't judge her for it, though it did surprise me to see someone hunting for old textbooks like that.

Unfortunately, even now that the weight of the entrance exam score has been bumped up from 5% to 10%, it still doesn't carry nearly enough weight compared to GPA.

It's also really tough to comment on the whole "strict vs. easy" school debate. Kids vary so much in terms of talent, knowledge, and work ethic when they walk through the door. Some breeze through while others struggle, which eventually leads to these urban legends about how "hard" certain schools are.

It's the same deal with middle schools; some hand out grades like candy, some simplify the curriculum just to boost the number of A's, and others maintain such high standards that they simply seem "tougher."
But even with maintaining standards, you have to ask: what is the actual capacity and potential of the child?

By the way, I think we should scrap the "optional success" metrics entirely, especially the stuff with decimals. Just use grades from the core required subjects.
I'm sure the enrollment process would be way less stressful for everyone involved.

At the end of the day, if you know how to read between the lines, you'll understand this post

Susan James said:So from seventh grade 🤣 😂

The ones with older siblings are the ones spreading paranoia as early as third grade. 😠🍿

My daughter goes to some after-school programs where her friends are now eighth graders, and at both her sports practices and language classes, there are already high schoolers enrolled alongside the eighth graders. Plus, there are our friends' kids too.
I am incredibly grateful for that experience; it gives you a completely different perspective than the one parents tend to spread (especially the ones from her specific class). Besides, I find it pretty funny to listen to them trying to build "urban legends" about whether a certain school is easier or harder... I just sit back and smile through it.

I always love hearing how kids perceive the world... and I truly just take it all with a smile (and I'm always surprised at first by how much they differ from us, which is actually a great thing for the future).
Susan James Susan James Veteran
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#1457 ·
rowdypanther12 said:In most developed countries, private schools aren't really a thing

Actually, they do. I'm not sure where you're getting that from. 😕 Even in places people constantly praise, like how everyone talks about the Finnish Private School system, they exist there too.
In some cases, though, they really are just geared toward expats or international families.
Carol Kelly3 Carol Kelly3 Member
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#1458 ·
Susan James said:
I noticed you mentioned proab. I'm not quite sure what you meant by that, but if you were trying to start a conversation or ask a question, please feel free to elaborate! I'm always happy to chat or help out however I can. kaže:
That's coming from someone who spends half their time spreading urban legends themselves!

What's the point of this? ovog Are you guys thinking about enrolling? 😕
Selective reading and nitpicking posts without actually offering any constructive feedback? That’s a tough way to engage.

I wrote this.:

I still stand by everything that was said...

u postu If you look at my previous post from earlier today, I laid out exactly how people start building these myths about whether a school is "too hard" or "too easy." It’s a pattern I see all the time.

At the end of the day, if you know how to read between the lines, you'll understand this post

I always love hearing how kids perceive the world... and I truly just take it all with a smile (and I'm always surprised at first by how much they differ from us, which is actually a great thing for the future).

I mean, I thought the whole point of what they wrote was just pointing out how hypocritical you're being. You mentioned Harvard and then talked about studying like crazy day and night all in the same breath. 🤮
Carol Kelly3 Carol Kelly3 Member
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#1459 ·
wanderingbadger77 said:If a kid is doing fine in school—no behavioral issues or developmental red flags—then paying for private school is just throwing money down the drain.
The only time private makes sense is for vocational stuff, like training to be a dental tech or something, when you don't have the grades and your old man is willing to bankroll your laziness. But for anyone else, it’s too early to even think about private school because the public system actually provides better resources and a stronger foundation.
Look at the SAT scores; they're pathetic. It’s not even a debate. If Dad pays for private high school, he’s just going to pay for a private college later, whether that’s some local state school or some random half-baked university in Denmark or the Netherlands. That’s the big trend in Miami right now.
When you can't make the cut for a decent state university, you just brag about how you're "studying abroad" in the Netherlands. Nobody ever asks what the actual degree is even in.
It sounds fancy, studying overseas.

I feel like there would be a ton of insults thrown at students if things worked this way. Calling someone an underachiever just because they pass with decent grades without being handed them—or because they can't get into a top-tier public high school in New York City due to a broken admissions system—is just mean. But hey, feel free to keep acting like you're better than them.🤦
Kate Jackson4 Kate Jackson4 Active Member
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#1460 ·
Have you attended any Open House events at the schools you're eyeing? We visited three technical high schools recently and found them quite insightful; being able to consult directly with the faculty and students provides invaluable perspective. To me, the most critical factor is gauging the overall atmosphere to see if it truly resonates with your child—what suits one student might be a poor fit for another. If your preferred schools haven't held their Open House yet, I highly recommend going...

We have finally established our application priorities and decided which school 🙂
prefers.

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