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Gender identity issues?

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Participants Angela Morgan4Michelle EvansNicholas Gonzalez8redharbor9crimsoncanyon2dustynomad15steelnomad84
steelnomad84 steelnomad84 Member
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#21 ·
dustynomad15 said:hold up, are you even realizing that you are the one with the issue here? That's a huge deal, because that's actually the first step toward fixing anything. If you think the problem lies with everyone else and that they're the ones in the wrong, you're never gonna get past it.
Specifically, I want to know: why do you think the way women emphasize femininity—like wearing makeup or getting all dolled up—is some kind of "warped value"? Or why is it supposedly bad for a woman to look to a man for protection?
And one more thing: what's your take on guys wearing makeup and grooming themselves? Is that stupid or totally fine? I'm dying to hear what you think.🙂

So, basically, you think people who refuse to conform are the ones with the problem?

The only actual problem those people have is dealing with intolerant folks who can't handle diversity and feel this weird urge to force traditional roles onto everyone else.
Nicholas Gonzalez8 Nicholas Gonzalez8 Regular
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#22 ·
steelnomad84 said:Look, people are going to judge you—that's just life. But when it's a psychologist who's supposed to be a professional, using labels like that? That's just straight-up unprofessional.

I mean, come on, psychologists are just human beings too. We all trip up sometimes—it's part of the deal. That's exactly why you shouldn't take every single thing so incredibly seriously.
steelnomad84 steelnomad84 Member
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#23 ·
Nicholas Gonzalez8 said:I mean, come on, psychologists are just human beings too. We all trip up sometimes—it's part of the deal. That's exactly why you shouldn't take every single thing so incredibly seriously.

The thing is, we aren't talking about some random little slip-up here. This is about letting personal biases completely wreck the integrity of a job that carries massive responsibility.
Michelle Evans Michelle Evans Regular
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#24 ·
steelnomad84 said:Look, people are going to judge you—that's just life. But when it's a psychologist who's supposed to be a professional, using labels like that? That's just straight-up unprofessional.

We aren't talking about a simple mistake here; this is about letting personal biases seriously undermine the quality of a very high-stakes profession.

A psychologist interprets test results based on how the individual actually completed them. If I understood the author correctly at the start, we were talking about testing. While it's true those tests won't always be 100% accurate, and no one is immune to error, this doesn't seem like a case of labeling someone due to prejudice or forcing personal views onto the data. It's easier to throw stones than to be nuanced... 🙂

EDIT: I should mention there is also an interview component involved, assuming that was the case here. That’s where personal bias could creep in, but the final report is meant to be a synthesis of everything...

I notice a lot of talk about makeup, changing lightbulbs, and things like that... those would fall under gender roles, not gender identity. For anyone interested in the distinction, there is a detailed breakdown here.

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