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Angela Thompson5 Angela Thompson5 NewcomerOP
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#1 ·
I don't even know what the core issue is, but I’ve never seen eye-to-eye with my parents. Over the last two years, it’s spiraled into this intense resentment, hatred, and straight-up contempt. And honestly? I feel the exact same way about my relatives. Even with friends—if one tries to get close or wants to know some deep secret of mine, I just start looking down on them. Don't even get me started on guys; I've never had anyone I could actually be real with. I'm 21. Is this just a massive fear of intimacy? Why does it even happen? I'm guessing my parents are at the root of all this, since they were pretty much neglectful and cold most of my life. Raising a kid just wasn't high on their priority list.
Anthony Hayes2 Anthony Hayes2 Member
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#2 ·
You're absolutely right. But hating them won't get you anywhere. If they weren't there for you or failed to provide that sense of home, just forgive them—maybe they simply didn't know how. Move on. Find a job, find your own way, and try to give someone else what you never received. It’s hard, I know. But holding onto that bitterness only ends up hurting you, and eventually, everyone else too.
crimsoncanyon2 crimsoncanyon2 Active Member
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#3 ·
If you had to rate your parents on a scale of 1 to 10—purely based on their value as human beings—what number would you give them? I’m talking about their core character, how they treat the world around them, and how they actually show up for their kids.
Angela Thompson5 said:I don't even know what the core issue is, but I’ve never seen eye-to-eye with my parents. Over the last two years, it’s spiraled into this intense resentment, hatred, and straight-up contempt. And honestly? I feel the exact same way about my relatives. Even with friends—if one tries to get close or wants to know some deep secret of mine, I just start looking down on them. Don't even get me started on guys; I've never had anyone I could actually be real with. I'm 21. Is this just a massive fear of intimacy? Why does it even happen? I'm guessing my parents are at the root of all this, since they were pretty much neglectful and cold most of my life. Raising a kid just wasn't high on their priority list.

Is that coming from a fear that you're secretly a gossip yourself—and let's be real, those people are bottom-of-the-barrel—or are you just terrified of being exposed and showing any kind of vulnerability?
Angela Thompson5 Angela Thompson5 NewcomerOP
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crimsoncanyon2 said:If you had to rate your parents on a scale of 1 to 10—purely based on their value as human beings—what number would you give them? I’m talking about their core character, how they treat the world around them, and how they actually show up for their kids.

Is that coming from a fear that you're secretly a gossip yourself—and let's be real, those people are bottom-of-the-barrel—or are you just terrified of being exposed and showing any kind of vulnerability?


I can't really put a number on them. They aren't "bad" people, per se, but they've always acted so weird toward me that it’s honestly embarrassing. My mom is fine, as long as she isn't spiraling into an anxiety attack, but my dad? He's the real issue. It feels like there's something deeply broken in his emotional makeup. Ever since I was 14, he hasn't treated me like his daughter—he treats me like a piece of meat. I literally go out of my way to avoid being in the same room as him. Being around him makes me feel so awkward and tense. But obviously, I can't explain this to anyone, because they'd just think I'm losing my mind. All this built-up anger and helplessness... it's turned into pure hatred. Mostly toward him, but probably eventually toward anyone else who tries to get close to me.

As for the second part? Yeah, it's the fear of being exposed.

So, what's your take on all this?
crimsoncanyon2 crimsoncanyon2 Active Member
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#5 ·
Angela Thompson5 said:I can't really put a number on them. They aren't "bad" people, per se, but they've always acted so weird toward me that it’s honestly embarrassing. My mom is fine, as long as she isn't spiraling into an anxiety attack, but my dad? He's the real issue. It feels like there's something deeply broken in his emotional makeup. Ever since I was 14, he hasn't treated me like his daughter—he treats me like a piece of meat. I literally go out of my way to avoid being in the same room as him. Being around him makes me feel so awkward and tense. But obviously, I can't explain this to anyone, because they'd just think I'm losing my mind. All this built-up anger and helplessness... it's turned into pure hatred. Mostly toward him, but probably eventually toward anyone else who tries to get close to me.

As for the second part? Yeah, it's the fear of being exposed.

So, what's your take on all this?

You shouldn't bottle up all that negativity. It's terrible for your health. Go hit the gym or play some sports. You'll think clearer and look better, too.

Your parents need to stop being so central to your emotional life. You aren't a helpless infant anymore...

If you want to feel empowered, the most important thing is having a career and a steady income.
When you have money, you don't need anyone. You gain the freedom to cut off whoever you want—especially those people who offer you nothing but negative vibes and a toxic atmosphere. Sure, if you ever end up needing a kidney or bone marrow transplant, it might be slightly inconvenient, but even that's solvable if you've got the cash.
Money is your best friend and more reliable than any living creature.
Jessica Cook11 Jessica Cook11 Newcomer
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#6 ·
crimsoncanyon2 said:You shouldn't bottle up all that negativity. It's terrible for your health. Go hit the gym or play some sports. You'll think clearer and look better, too.

Your parents need to stop being so central to your emotional life. You aren't a helpless infant anymore...

If you want to feel empowered, the most important thing is having a career and a steady income.
When you have money, you don't need anyone. You gain the freedom to cut off whoever you want—especially those people who offer you nothing but negative vibes and a toxic atmosphere. Sure, if you ever end up needing a kidney or bone marrow transplant, it might be slightly inconvenient, but even that's solvable if you've got the cash.
Money is your best friend and more reliable than any living creature.

Hands down, this is the best comment I've ever read. Thank you Quote.😍
Matthew Wilson59 Matthew Wilson59 Newcomer
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crimsoncanyon2 said:You shouldn't bottle up all that negativity. It's terrible for your health. Go hit the gym or play some sports. You'll think clearer and look better, too.

Your parents need to stop being so central to your emotional life. You aren't a helpless infant anymore...

If you want to feel empowered, the most important thing is having a career and a steady income.
When you have money, you don't need anyone. You gain the freedom to cut off whoever you want—especially those people who offer you nothing but negative vibes and a toxic atmosphere. Sure, if you ever end up needing a kidney or bone marrow transplant, it might be slightly inconvenient, but even that's solvable if you've got the cash.
Money is your best friend and more reliable than any living creature.


😍😍Where were you ten years ago when I actually needed to hear this?

Regarding the issues you mentioned, I won't play therapist since that's not my field, but I can share what worked for me. I grew up in a household where showing any kind of emotion or vulnerability was strictly off-limits. It took me forever to emotionally detach and break those old patterns; it definitely wasn't an overnight fix. For a long time, I couldn't handle any kind of relationship, and honestly, I still struggle to maintain close friendships today. Being in a relationship helped quite a bit, though. My partner helped me see my family through a different lens and helped me stop holding so many grudges. It's still a work in progress.
Melissa Thompson89 Melissa Thompson89 Newcomer
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#8 ·
Angela Thompson5 said:I don't even know what the core issue is, but I’ve never seen eye-to-eye with my parents. Over the last two years, it’s spiraled into this intense resentment, hatred, and straight-up contempt. And honestly? I feel the exact same way about my relatives. Even with friends—if one tries to get close or wants to know some deep secret of mine, I just start looking down on them. Don't even get me started on guys; I've never had anyone I could actually be real with. I'm 21. Is this just a massive fear of intimacy? Why does it even happen? I'm guessing my parents are at the root of all this, since they were pretty much neglectful and cold most of my life. Raising a kid just wasn't high on their priority list.

You're afraid. I don't know what of, but you're definitely afraid.
Joseph Bailey41 Joseph Bailey41 Veteran
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#9 ·
You basically answered your own question in your next post.

Angela Thompson5 said:I can't really put a number on them. They aren't "bad" people, per se, but they've always acted so weird toward me that it’s honestly embarrassing. My mom is fine, as long as she isn't spiraling into an anxiety attack, but my dad? He's the real issue. It feels like there's something deeply broken in his emotional makeup. Ever since I was 14, he hasn't treated me like his daughter—he treats me like a piece of meat. I literally go out of my way to avoid being in the same room as him. Being around him makes me feel so awkward and tense. But obviously, I can't explain this to anyone, because they'd just think I'm losing my mind. All this built-up anger and helplessness... it's turned into pure hatred. Mostly toward him, but probably eventually toward anyone else who tries to get close to me.

As for the second part? Yeah, it's the fear of being exposed.

So, what's your take on all this?

It makes total sense why you find it hard to open up, especially when there's no way to actually prove what's happening. 😢

The best thing for you would be to get independent as soon as possible and cut him out of your life entirely. Of course, that's much easier said than done, given how difficult things can be in the US right now.

For starters, please just remind yourself: this isn't your fault. You're going through a lot, but that doesn't mean you're losing your mind.
Michael Moore45 Michael Moore45 Newcomer
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#10 ·
Angela Thompson5 said:I can't really put a number on them. They aren't "bad" people, per se, but they've always acted so weird toward me that it’s honestly embarrassing. My mom is fine, as long as she isn't spiraling into an anxiety attack, but my dad? He's the real issue. It feels like there's something deeply broken in his emotional makeup. Ever since I was 14, he hasn't treated me like his daughter—he treats me like a piece of meat. I literally go out of my way to avoid being in the same room as him. Being around him makes me feel so awkward and tense. But obviously, I can't explain this to anyone, because they'd just think I'm losing my mind. All this built-up anger and helplessness... it's turned into pure hatred. Mostly toward him, but probably eventually toward anyone else who tries to get close to me.

As for the second part? Yeah, it's the fear of being exposed.

So, what's your take on all this?

I get that exact same feeling whenever I'm hanging out with both of my parents.
Whenever guests come over and start grilling me with questions right in front of them, I can barely manage a word—which is wild, because normally I'm super talkative, maybe even a bit of a chatterbox. I just can't stand being in their presence.
They always try to "program" me like some kind of robot, you know? Like, "answer this way," or "answer that way," or "make sure you say hello when someone walks in."

Being treated like I'm some kind of idiot really messes with your head.
I try to avoid them as much as I possibly can. For me, staying busy with going out, focusing on my classes at college, and just holding onto the hope that I'll eventually be financially independent and move out... that's what keeps me going.

Hang in there, 👍. I don't know what else to tell you since I'm definitely no psychologist, but please just know—you aren't crazy, and you're certainly not alone in feeling this way.
Nicholas Gonzalez8 Nicholas Gonzalez8 Regular
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#11 ·
I don't even know where to start, but I've never really clicked with my parents—and over the last two years, that's spiraled into this intense resentment, hatred, and pure contempt. Honestly, I feel the same way about my extended family too. Even with friends... if someone tries to get close or asks to know something personal about me, I just start looking down on them. And don't even get me started on guys; I've never actually had anyone I could be real with. I'm 21. Is this just some deep-seated fear of intimacy? Why does it even happen? I'm guessing the root cause is my parents—they were pretty neglectful and cold most of my life, and raising a kid was clearly never at the top of their priority list.

First off, you've gotta forgive yourself for how you're acting, and try to find a way to forgive your parents for who they are. If you can't do that right now, then make that your mission. Also, seriously—get independent and move out from under their roof as soon as you possibly can.

The only way to beat these fears is to stare them right in the face. You have to push yourself outside of your comfort zone. Try opening up to people you're meeting for the first time—like, go all the way. Don't sit there obsessing over what you might lose by being vulnerable; just accept the risk. Yeah, maybe someone will screw you over, but more often than not, that's how you attract people who are actually honest and open themselves. It gets easier with time, and eventually, that fear just starts to fade away. 🙂
Joseph Bailey41 Joseph Bailey41 Veteran
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Nicholas Gonzalez8 said:
I don't even know where to start, but I've never really clicked with my parents—and over the last two years, that's spiraled into this intense resentment, hatred, and pure contempt. Honestly, I feel the same way about my extended family too. Even with friends... if someone tries to get close or asks to know something personal about me, I just start looking down on them. And don't even get me started on guys; I've never actually had anyone I could be real with. I'm 21. Is this just some deep-seated fear of intimacy? Why does it even happen? I'm guessing the root cause is my parents—they were pretty neglectful and cold most of my life, and raising a kid was clearly never at the top of their priority list.

First off, you've gotta forgive yourself for how you're acting, and try to find a way to forgive your parents for who they are. If you can't do that right now, then make that your mission. Also, seriously—get independent and move out from under their roof as soon as you possibly can.

The only way to beat these fears is to stare them right in the face. You have to push yourself outside of your comfort zone. Try opening up to people you're meeting for the first time—like, go all the way. Don't sit there obsessing over what you might lose by being vulnerable; just accept the risk. Yeah, maybe someone will screw you over, but more often than not, that's how you attract people who are actually honest and open themselves. It gets easier with time, and eventually, that fear just starts to fade away. 🙂

No way. 🙄 That honestly sounds a little bit crazy to me.
Nicholas Gonzalez8 Nicholas Gonzalez8 Regular
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#13 ·
No, hell no. That just doesn't sit right with me at all.

It doesn't feel normal because, honestly, most people don't actually do that. But—and this is a big "but"—it’s incredibly effective 🙂

By playing it that way, you get to know people way faster. It’s much easier to just cut ties when you realize after a couple of days that someone is totally wrong for you, rather than dragging it out for weeks or months like some kind of endless marathon. Plus, it helps you build and solidify real friendships much more quickly.
urbanmoose2 urbanmoose2 Member
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#14 ·
Angela Thompson5 said:I don't even know what the core issue is, but I’ve never seen eye-to-eye with my parents. Over the last two years, it’s spiraled into this intense resentment, hatred, and straight-up contempt. And honestly? I feel the exact same way about my relatives. Even with friends—if one tries to get close or wants to know some deep secret of mine, I just start looking down on them. Don't even get me started on guys; I've never had anyone I could actually be real with. I'm 21. Is this just a massive fear of intimacy? Why does it even happen? I'm guessing my parents are at the root of all this, since they were pretty much neglectful and cold most of my life. Raising a kid just wasn't high on their priority list.

Tell me, when you were younger, did you deal with much bullying at school?
Joseph Bailey41 Joseph Bailey41 Veteran
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#15 ·
Nicholas Gonzalez8 said:
No, hell no. That just doesn't sit right with me at all.

It doesn't feel normal because, honestly, most people don't actually do that. But—and this is a big "but"—it’s incredibly effective 🙂

By playing it that way, you get to know people way faster. It’s much easier to just cut ties when you realize after a couple of days that someone is totally wrong for you, rather than dragging it out for weeks or months like some kind of endless marathon. Plus, it helps you build and solidify real friendships much more quickly.

You think that's efficient? 😉 I highly doubt it. For instance, imagine I'm riding on a commuter train with the person who started this thread. She strikes up a conversation, and then two stops later, she tells me how her dad looks at her like she's nothing more than a piece of meat. No, that wouldn't exactly be the foundation for a wonderful friendship. 🤦
Nicholas Gonzalez8 Nicholas Gonzalez8 Regular
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#16 ·
You think that’s efficient?

Exactly 🙂 Thank you Quote

I have my doubts. Say, I'm sitting on an Amtrak train next to the OP—she starts talking and then, two stops later, she’s telling me her dad looks at her like a piece of meat. No, that is definitely not how a beautiful friendship begins.

Look, honesty has always been a solid foundation for me when meeting someone. I'd much rather deal with the raw truth than have some person pretending everything is sunshine and rainbows. Honestly, what’s the real difference between hearing it the second you meet or five months down the line? I really don't get the distinction here.

If you run into someone who isn't big on total transparency, then yeah, maybe don't drop those kinds of bombs right out of the gate. In other words—if the conversation naturally drifts toward those heavy topics, go ahead and be real. But you don't need to just blurt out every single thought you have without any context. If you really feel the need to dive deep, create the right vibe first. Truth is truth, but there are plenty of ways to package it.
Joseph Bailey41 Joseph Bailey41 Veteran
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Nicholas Gonzalez8 said:
You think that’s efficient?

Exactly 🙂 Thank you Quote

I have my doubts. Say, I'm sitting on an Amtrak train next to the OP—she starts talking and then, two stops later, she’s telling me her dad looks at her like a piece of meat. No, that is definitely not how a beautiful friendship begins.

Look, honesty has always been a solid foundation for me when meeting someone. I'd much rather deal with the raw truth than have some person pretending everything is sunshine and rainbows. Honestly, what’s the real difference between hearing it the second you meet or five months down the line? I really don't get the distinction here.

If you run into someone who isn't big on total transparency, then yeah, maybe don't drop those kinds of bombs right out of the gate. In other words—if the conversation naturally drifts toward those heavy topics, go ahead and be real. But you don't need to just blurt out every single thought you have without any context. If you really feel the need to dive deep, create the right vibe first. Truth is truth, but there are plenty of ways to package it.

To me, there's a massive difference. At first, people usually stick to lighthearted topics and shared hobbies. It’s how you get a feel for their vibe and figure out if you actually click. It’s only later, once some basic trust has been built, that they start sharing the more intimate details of their lives.

I don't really view people who spill their entire life story immediately as being serious. If they’re unloading all that onto me right away, I assume they do it with everyone—meaning they don't distinguish between different levels of friendship. They treat someone they've known for ten years exactly the same way they treat a total stranger. That’s just not the kind of person I want as a close friend. Honestly, I probably wouldn't want them as a friend at all. If they're that casual about sharing secrets, I certainly won't be trusting them with anything important.

These hyper-open people almost remind me of those overly intense cult followers or proponents of those "toxic positivity" movements. Maybe I'm totally wrong, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way. Personally, I wouldn't recommend opening up completely until you actually know who you're dealing with. For extreme extroverts, that approach might work since it helps them bond quickly with similar people. But for anyone else, that strategy will likely leave them with nothing.
Nicholas Gonzalez8 Nicholas Gonzalez8 Regular
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#18 ·
Flying says:

Look, maybe I’m totally off base here—and honestly, feel free to call me out if I am—but I can't be the only one thinking this. I really wouldn't advise anyone to just go wide open and lay all their cards on the table without having a clue who they're dealing with first. It’s risky business. Now, sure, if you’re one of those extreme extroverts—the kind of people who could strike up a conversation with a brick wall and make it feel like a party—then maybe that "open book" approach works for you. You thrive on that instant connection with people who vibe on your level. But for the rest of us? For anyone who isn't constantly hunting for a crowd? Doing that is basically just handing over your secrets for nothing. You end up with zero leverage and even less to show for it.

Look, you aren't some lone outlier here—you’re definitely not the only one thinking this way. Honestly, if we all had the exact same opinions on everything, life would be pretty damn boring, wouldn't it? We don't all see eye to eye, and frankly, that’s perfectly fine by me. It’s just how it works. 🙂 Look, if I’m being completely honest—and I mean totally transparent here—I definitely shut certain people out. I’ll turn them away without a second thought. But for the most part? My experiences have been pretty good. It just seems like I naturally gravitate toward people who operate on my same wavelength—you know, the ones who "get it"—and you actually hit the nail on the head earlier when you mentioned how important that connection is.

Look, there’s a massive difference here—it’s night and day. When you first start getting to know someone, you don't just dive into the deep end, right? That would be crazy. Most people stick to the light stuff at first—hobbies, movies, whatever—just casual conversation to see how the other person actually "breathes." It’s like a vibe check, really. You’re basically testing the waters to see if your personalities even mesh before you commit to anything deeper. It’s only after that foundation of basic trust is built—once you know they aren't a total weirdo—that you start opening up about the more intimate, personal details of your life. You wouldn't hand your social security number to a stranger at a Starbucks, would you? It just doesn't work that way.

Look, I get it. But honestly? It all boils down to how you view trust. Personally, I’m the type who gives people my full confidence right out of the gate—I'll trust anyone until they give me a damn good reason not to. And usually, that works out fine because most people actually value being trusted like that, so they don't want to mess it up. It’s like when a boss gives you total autonomy; you don't want to be the one to prove them wrong, right? So, people tend to protect that trust because it's rare.

Look, I really don't have the patience to play these social games—you know, the whole thing where you spend weeks, months, maybe even years tip-toeing around people just to finally be real with them? It’s exhausting. Honestly, life moves too fast for that kind of hesitation. I value my time way too much to spend it holding back or filtering myself just to fit some unspoken rule about "getting to know someone" slowly. If I’m hanging out with people, I want to be all in—completely transparent, totally open, and ready to dive into the deep end right away. I want to squeeze every bit of enjoyment out of every single moment, and if I'm having a blast, I want to share that energy with everyone else around me without any of the usual hesitation or awkward buildup. Life's too short for the slow burn.

I’ve gotta say it—people who dump their entire life story on me within five minutes of meeting? I just don't take them seriously. Honestly. If they’re willing to spill all their guts to a total stranger like that, it tells me they don't really understand the concept of boundaries—or worse, they don't see any difference between a casual acquaintance and someone they've known for a decade. It’s like they have this "all or nothing" setting where everyone gets the same level of intimacy right out of the gate, regardless of whether we’ve shared years of history or just grabbed a coffee once. To me, that’s a massive red flag. That isn't the kind of person I want as a close friend. Actually, scratch that—I don't want them in my inner circle at all.

I honestly don't get what the big deal is—why on earth would you wait years just to truly "get" someone when you could build that bond in a matter of weeks? Life moves fast, people change, and opportunities have a nasty habit of vanishing if you sit around waiting for the perfect moment. Think about it this way—let’s say you play it safe and only really connect with someone after ten years of knowing them. Then, suddenly, that person packs up and moves halfway across the country—like moving from New York to Seattle or somewhere just as far away—and now you're lucky if you see them once or twice a year. Was it worth it? Is it better to spend those first ten years just being casual acquaintances, or wouldn't it be much better to actually dive in and enjoy a deep friendship for the full decade? I mean, why waste the time?

I honestly hold everyone in the same high regard—and I mean that sincerely. It doesn’t matter if we’re talking about a total stranger you pass on a sidewalk in Chicago or a lifelong friend you’ve known since grade school. Every single person carries this massive, untapped potential to shift the trajectory of our lives—if we actually let them, that is. It’s all about whether you leave the door open or not, really.

If he’s just going to toss his secrets around that casually, I wouldn't trust him to watch my dog for five minutes, let alone handle anything important.

Look, let’s get one thing straight—being an open book doesn't mean you're some kind of loose cannon when it comes to loyalty. People act like honesty and keeping your mouth shut about a friend's business are the same thing, but they aren't even in the same zip code. It’s a total misconception. I know all kinds of people—some of them are incredibly private, almost guarded, and won't tell you a single thing about their own lives until they really trust you. But then you have those other types who just can't help themselves; they'll gossip about everyone from their neighbors to their coworkers at Starbucks before you even finish your morning coffee. And don't get it twisted—there are plenty of folks out there who are completely transparent about their own mess—they'll tell you everything under the sun about themselves—but when it comes to a friend's secret? They’re like a vault. They can be totally candid about their own lives while still being the most reliable people you know. Honesty isn't about spilling everyone else's tea; it's about being real about yourself.

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