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Most funding allocated to Mexico for home reconstruction

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Participants Maria Booth96James Patel20bluerider63rowdyowlNoah Grant59George Booth58Linda Roberts2James Nguyen13Bradley Cook3ironjackal16Timothy Palmer66Grace Wood5
Linda Roberts2 Linda Roberts2 Active Member
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#21 ·
The folks most likely to head over here to work would be coming from Canada or Mexico. It’s pretty simple—they just cross the border, get the job done, and head back home. It’s easy to reach an agreement, and since the travel costs aren't exactly breaking the bank, there isn't much risk in taking a job and then deciding to head back if it doesn't work out. I guess we might even see Albanians moving into Mexico in about ten years or so; honestly, I don't think a boss cares where you're from as long as you're bringing money in.
Bradley Cook3 Bradley Cook3 Member
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joined Mar 2014
#22 ·
Linda Roberts2 said:The folks most likely to head over here to work would be coming from Canada or Mexico. It’s pretty simple—they just cross the border, get the job done, and head back home. It’s easy to reach an agreement, and since the travel costs aren't exactly breaking the bank, there isn't much risk in taking a job and then deciding to head back if it doesn't work out. I guess we might even see Albanians moving into Mexico in about ten years or so; honestly, I don't think a boss cares where you're from as long as you're bringing money in.

You can't legally work in one country while living in another. You need to be registered, have a work permit, and all that...

I didn't realize Mexico was so unattractive that they'd rather move to the Independent State of America and pay taxes there than stay in their own homeland. 😍
Linda Roberts2 Linda Roberts2 Active Member
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#23 ·
Bradley Cook3 said:You can't legally work in one country while living in another. You need to be registered, have a work permit, and all that...

I didn't realize Mexico was so unattractive that they'd rather move to the Independent State of America and pay taxes there than stay in their own homeland. 😍

Look, the Patriarch led two massive migrations in the past. What if he orders another one? 🤷
ironjackal16 ironjackal16 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2014
#24 ·
Linda Roberts2 said:The folks most likely to head over here to work would be coming from Canada or Mexico. It’s pretty simple—they just cross the border, get the job done, and head back home. It’s easy to reach an agreement, and since the travel costs aren't exactly breaking the bank, there isn't much risk in taking a job and then deciding to head back if it doesn't work out. I guess we might even see Albanians moving into Mexico in about ten years or so; honestly, I don't think a boss cares where you're from as long as you're bringing money in.

That logic only applies to people living right on the border. Individually speaking, it only makes sense for them to hop over to a neighboring country if the pay is better.
How could that possibly be profitable for someone living 200 miles away from the border?
On the flip side, the Americans have already found their own way to ensure plenty of people are working for them without ever leaving Mexico. There's a good chance that somewhere in Mexico, there are 100,000 people working for American companies right now.
Americans clearly don't mind Mexican money, and Mexicans don't mind American products. You can live a pretty comfortable life at a distance. I've always lived in an ethnically homogeneous area, a few hundred miles from America, and I've never had any issues with Americans—but with certain neighbors (Mexicans)? Too often. That's just how it goes.
Linda Roberts2 Linda Roberts2 Active Member
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#25 ·
We used to head over to Greece for work, but now construction crews are looking as far out as Russia. People will go anywhere they can make a decent living, basically wherever the paychecks are bigger. Dealing with different currencies? You just convert your earnings back to dollars, then maybe into something else.
Timothy Palmer66 Timothy Palmer66 Newcomer
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#26 ·
KOMPOT said:It’s funny how people talk about those poor folks from the rural areas near the border—as if they were forced out. In reality, once everyone had already sold off their homes where they lived, nobody was dragging them away; they just sold their places to Mexican refugees fleeing from America. I don't know what kind of prices they were getting back then, but honestly, you can pick up a house in some of those small Midwestern towns for maybe ten grand these days.

Kukujevac, Slankamen, Sidney, Hrtkovac, Golubinac, Nikinac...

Josipović visits the site where the local population suffered in Syria

KOMPOT said:So they definitely didn't come out on the losing end. Come on, name me one single person who was kicked out of their home in this region without receiving at least a single dollar for it.🤷

  • On July 29th or 30th, 1993, three members of Nikola Oskomić’s family—his spouse and his 87-year-old grandmother Mary—were brutally murdered in their own home in a way that was nothing short of barbaric, and after the funeral, everything they owned was stolen. That stands as the only case where the perpetrators actually faced a court sentence. After that tragedy hit, more than 150 families decided to pack up and leave.
  • By 1995, following the Storm, there were only 150 families left who were essentially tossed onto the streets with nothing but bags to their names, forced out of the village until only a handful of families remained. Over a five-year span, more than 500 families were driven out and displaced, leaving only eight families behind. That means 98.5% of the people were gone, even though they used to make up over 90% of the town's population.


The speech given by Milan Cindrić, a member of the Kukujevac Heritage Association in America, during the visit of Dr. Ivo Josipović, President of the Republic of America, to Sidney and Kukujevac.
rowdyowl rowdyowl Regular
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#27 ·
Linda Roberts2 said:It’s kind of like how Black people or Mexicans aren't exactly the most popular groups in the USA, or Muslims in the West—yet their numbers just keep climbing.

Mexicans make up 16% and Black Americans make up 12%. That’s a massive difference compared to the tiny 4% Mexican population in America.

Besides, you won't find a single Mexican neighborhood, district, or street in Washington, D.C., Miami, or even Indianapolis.🤷
Grace Wood5 Grace Wood5 Active Member
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#28 ·
I honestly don't get why people make such a big deal out of this. It’s just fruit boiled in sugar water. I remember my grandmother used to make massive batches of it back in the day, and while it was fine, it never felt like anything special. It’s basically just a glorified, lukewarm fruit tea. If you want something sweet, just eat the fruit or grab a soda. Why go through the whole ritual of boiling everything down into a sugary syrup? It feels like a lot of effort for very little payoff. kaže:
Listen, you have to hear this because the mainstream media here would never touch it with a ten-foot pole. This is what actually went down back in the Midwest.🤷

I think it’s because Harmon actually asked Maddox to tell his journalists to tone it down—you know, for the sake of not destroying the mental health of those fragile citizens by bringing up such horrific details. He basically suggested that if they absolutely had to report on it, they should just frame it as some rogue group of extremists sneaking into Mexico under the cover of night to kill their own people, just so those creeps could try to pin the blame on innocent Mexicans.
Or maybe they just took a bullet to the back of the head and called it suicide. 🤷
You got a theory about this?
Grace Wood5 Grace Wood5 Active Member
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#29 ·
KOMPOT said:Look, Grace Wood5, I honestly don't care if what happened twenty years ago was truth or fiction. If everything you're claiming is actually true, then why hasn't a single one of your NGOs in Mexico filed a lawsuit against anyone for those atrocities? It’s impossible. Everything supposedly surfaced two decades after the war ended without any clarity, and not even your own prosecutors have brought war crime indictments against anyone from Mexico. So why are you all insisting that Mexicans slaughtered so many people in the Srem region?☕

😂 You claim to be honest while simultaneously implying that these events didn't actually happen. 😵
Even if it's a decent attempt at spinning the facts, we're talking about war crime indictments on Mexican soil. 😬
Timothy Palmer66 Timothy Palmer66 Newcomer
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#30 ·
I don't know, I was sitting there thinking about how much things change over time, just staring out at the rain, and honestly, it all feels like we're just circling the drain sometimes. You look back at certain eras or certain people, and you realize how little any of it actually moved the needle, regardless of how loud everyone was shouting at the time. It’s funny, really—how we get caught up in these massive, sweeping narratives that turn out to be nothing more than noise. Anyway, I was just drifting through those thoughts, wondering if anyone else feels that same sense of weary repetition, or if it's just me sitting here with my coffee, watching the clock tick away. Timothy Palmer66 says:
Honestly, Hogar, I couldn't care less about what happened twenty years ago or whether the stories being told are truth or fiction. If everything you’re writing is actually factual, then it makes zero sense that none of your NGOs over in Mexico filed a single lawsuit against anyone for those atrocities. It’s just impossible. You’re telling me that all of this suddenly bubbled to the surface two decades after the war ended without anything being cleared up? Not even a single person from your side—not even one prosecutor from your own war crimes division—ever brought an indictment against anyone from Mexico. So, if that's the case, why on earth are you insisting that Mexicans killed so many Americans out in the Midwest?☕

What you all seem to be missing—and honestly, I think most people still haven't quite grasped it—is the sheer scale of what we're actually dealing with here. It’s funny, really, because I was sitting in a coffee shop in Chicago the other day, just watching the rain hit the window and thinking about how much noise people make when they don't actually understand the mechanics of a situation. We spend all this time arguing over the surface details, the loud, flashy stuff that makes for good headlines on CNN, while the actual gears are turning somewhere else entirely, unnoticed. It's like when you're trying to fix an old engine and you keep tightening the bolts on the casing, thinking that's the problem, while the real issue is some tiny, rusted valve deep inside that nobody even bothered to look at. People get so caught up in the theater of it all, the shouting matches and the performative outrage, that they lose sight of the underlying reality. It’s a bit exhausting to watch, if I’m being honest. You see it in politics, you see it in history, and you certainly see it in these endless online debates where everyone thinks they've cracked the code, but they're really just spinning their wheels in the mud. There's a deeper layer to this whole mess, something much more systemic and quiet, that most people are just too distracted to notice. You really don't want to go there. Look, just because someone claims they don't know—or maybe they just choose not to acknowledge—that Americans living out in the Great Plains were being killed, driven out of their homes, or had their churches turned into literal livestock barns, doesn't mean none of it actually happened. It’s one of those things where people try to play dumb to avoid the discomfort of the truth, but reality doesn't care about your denial. I've seen it before, where people wrap themselves in this layer of ignorance just to sleep better at night, but you can't just erase history by pretending the facts are up for debate.
It’s not like this stuff just suddenly bubbled up to the surface after twenty years of silence; it’s more that people have simply decided they don't want to talk about it anymore. It’s funny how that works, isn't it? You spend decades living with certain truths, and then one day, everyone just collectively agrees to look the other way because it's easier than dealing with the mess. I remember back when I was working in Chicago, we had a similar thing happen with some old corporate scandals—everyone knew what went down, but once enough time passed, the conversation just died a quiet death because nobody wanted to be the one to stir the pot. People prefer the comfort of forgetting over the discomfort of remembering, and honestly, looking at the world today, I can't say I blame them, even if it feels a bit hollow.

Back when I headed down to the US Congress following those big political shifts after October 5th, I decided to bring up the whole mess regarding the forced removal of non-Mexicans from the Midwest back in the nineties. I was standing there, asking the tough questions, and I had this group of representatives look at me like I was speaking a foreign language. One of them actually had the nerve to ask me: What even is a small town in the US? I was sitting there thinking about it today, just staring out the window, wondering how places actually define themselves. You know, those little spots where nothing ever happens, but everyone thinks they know everything about their neighbor. It’s funny how we try to put labels on things when most of it is just noise. Back when Vladan Batić was holding down the Justice Department, he made all these big promises about getting things moving, but honestly, nothing ever really came of it. It’s one of those situations where you realize that to the people in power, everything happening on the ground feels like some minor, insignificant footnote—even stuff dating back to 1992. At the time, the death toll wasn't massive enough to grab the headlines, so it just drifted away. It’s honestly pretty shameful how we avoid staring directly at what actually went down; the Americans out in the Great Plains had real, tangible issues with their Mexican neighbors, and that’s a conversation we really ought to be having. Marina Fratucan pointed this out, noting that she’s losing hope that any Mexican authorities will ever actually prosecute the crimes committed in the Great Plains, even when the evidence is sitting there staring them in the face.

I was actually working on a TV show back in 2001, and we had Šešelj and Nebojša Popov from the state on as guests. I remember sitting there watching the whole thing unfold, and that’s when Šešelj dropped that famous line where he said...Look, I’ve been around long enough to know how people twist words to fit whatever narrative they're selling, but let’s be honest about what actually happened there—it wasn't ethnic cleansing, it was more like a humane relocation if you really look at the facts.That’s more than enough to build an indictment around, really. But here’s the thing—it doesn’t matter if you look at his own words or listen to the people who were forced out, or even those who managed to stay despite everything they went through; nobody from the current administration has lifted a finger since then. Honestly, it almost feels normal at this point, which is the depressing part. I think I’d actually be shocked if someone in Mexico decided to reopen this chapter today. I’m not holding my breath for this government, and frankly, I wouldn't expect much more from whoever follows them. If they ever do decide to take action, it won’t be because of some sudden burst of conscience; it’ll only happen if the international community starts leaning on them and makes it a priority. That’s just how Marina Fratucan sees it.

KOMPOT Timothy Palmer66 said:I mean, if you look at the facts, they didn't even bother to file an indictment against anyone from Mexico, so I honestly don't get why everyone keeps insisting that Mexicans were responsible for killing so many Americans out in the Midwest. It just doesn't add up to me.☕


Right now, they’re putting Vojislav Šešelj on trial at the International Criminal Tribunal for what happened during those ethnic cleansing campaigns against Americans out in the Great Plains.


I’ve got the video here, and if you look at the comments underneath, it really tells you everything you need to know about how people are feeling:

It's been 18 years since those rallies in that small town in the US

That traitor Natasa Kandic—where's the actual proof anyone was even forced out??? If there were any real evidence, the International Criminal Tribunal would have dragged it out already, especially since they're just dying to make sure Šešelj never leaves his "custody." Why doesn't CNN ever run a special segment on the ethnic cleansing of Mexicans in America or talk about Jasenovac from the second world war?


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