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In medias res: The Mirjana Pukanić special

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mistymason1 mistymason1 MemberOP
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#1 ·
I didn't catch the broadcast, so first off, does anyone know where I can find a recording? I checked YouTube, but came up empty.

Secondly, knowing the Mirjana Pukanić situation, I think the reaction from ASNE and most of the media outlets and commentators toward this show is shameful. While everyone was busy turning it into a circus—making a spectacle out of the claims of one mentally ill person without showing an ounce of respect for her family (her husband, Ivo Pukanić—regardless of what anyone thinks of his work or actions, that’s not the point here; I don't think he's perfect either, but that doesn't mean the man hasn't dealt with his own family Calvary, especially regarding his daughter Sara, whom nobody seems to be protecting)—it reminds me of that case at M. P.'s apartment. A pack of journalists acting like people dying of thirst in a desert, soaking up every single word from an unstable individual without taking anything they say with a grain of salt.

I feel like the whole thing is being played by a particularly corrupt hand, specifically Sanja Sarnavka, who is making a mockery of things under the guise of protecting human and women's rights. It's disgraceful. If this is the peak of feminism in America, then good luck to them.

So, if anyone has a link, please share it so we can see what was actually said and hear your thoughts on the whole mess.
shadowotter142 shadowotter142 Member
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#2 ·
If you ask me, Ivo and Mirjana Pukanić have B. A. B. E. and Sarnavka to blame—along with the EPH media outlets and Gordan Malić. It’s a collective effort, really. They all teamed up to either mock the first assassination attempt on Pukanić or insist that Mirjana wasn't actually sick and didn't need psychiatric help.
Those B. A. B. E. types should be focusing on actual women's rights instead of funding groups like those "young anti-fascists"—who basically claim the war was premeditated—while backing someone like Robert Matijević, who fits their ideology perfectly despite him physically and mentally abusing his wife from Mexico. Apparently, that’s just how things work now. It's scandalous, right? What’s even left of women's rights? Or is this whole thing just an association meant to push a specific leftist agenda?
Meanwhile, the EPH media and Malić made a joke out of the first attempt on Pukanić's life, convincing everyone it was all just a farce. That's exactly why Pukanić himself got careless. Even Berislav Jelinić called them out on it during a broadcast. Naturally, that sent the left-wing crowd at ASNE and all the news portals into a frenzy because Jelinić had the nerve to point the finger at those liberals for the deaths of Ivo and Mirjana Pukanić. And now? Now they're coming after innocent Petar Vlahov.
mistymason1 mistymason1 MemberOP
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#3 ·
Look, I wouldn't really group her in with the left or the right. I lean left myself, but I can't stand seeing anyone treated like that—it’s just blatant media manipulation. Besides, people like Sanja Sarnavka, Gojanica, or B.A.B.E. aren't actually "leftists." They’re more like those typical liberals who mostly get their funding from big corporations.

But yeah... they mocked Pukanić during that first attempt too. They turned him into some kind of domestic monster by intentionally ignoring the fact that his wife struggles with serious mental health issues. It was calculated.

Did you catch that broadcast?
restlessbison6 restlessbison6 Member
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#4 ·
I can certainly grasp why NBC would fixate on I. Pukanić, but I find it utterly baffling that his wife’s private life should be treated as news. It is the absolute pinnacle of sensationalist trash from our supposedly "public" broadcaster.

mistymason1. You present yourself as a specialist in precision mechanics, yet you conclude that he had a deeply unwell spouse—implying she was unstable... And I fail to see why someone in your profession would even care about this program, let alone how it relates to the political landscape...
mistymason1 mistymason1 MemberOP
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#5 ·
The moment something enters the public eye, it becomes politics. That’s just the definition. It's different from what stays in the private sphere. And sure, I agree this whole thing should have stayed private. But who turned it into a political circus? Maybe me, maybe the media? It all started when she refused to go to the hospital—which happens a lot with mental health patients, since they often think they're perfectly fine. The issue was that every news outlet immediately jumped on it, claiming Pukanić was trying to label a healthy woman as insane. They swarmed her apartment and painted her as a complete victim. What choice did he really have left other than to look at his wife's medical records? I guess it was unethical by general standards, but given the context, what else could he do? If someone is accusing you of trying to shove a sane woman into an asylum (or, as those "busybodies" put it, someone with just minor issues), then I suppose it's necessary to explain how vicious bipolar psychosis actually is. In the end, it probably cost her everything (once the autopsy results come in, we'll know).

Pukanić, unfortunately, seems to have this double, paradoxically contradictory bias toward mental health patients. On one hand, he sees them as lunatics you can't trust, which leads to total panic when patients from facilities like the local psychiatric ward wander 🙄. On the other hand, families of the ill are often stigmatized as if they're trying to force people into institutions. It’s almost impossible to hospitalize someone who refuses treatment unless they are in a completely deranged state and a danger to themselves or others, which maybe only happens in 5% of acute psychotic episodes.

To wrap this up, I also believe Mirjana Pukanić's life shouldn't be a matter of public debate. The real topic for public discussion should be the manipulation or the sheer lack of professionalism shown by journalists and various NGOs—especially those "busybodies."
restlessbison6 restlessbison6 Member
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#6 ·
Kurtzius kura;37603340 said:The moment something enters the public sphere, it becomes politics. That is the very definition of politics. .........
Kurtzius kura, I’m not quite sure what you mean by that... Ivo was a public figure, yes, but his involvement in certain criminal activities just to line his pockets ended up being his undoing. His late wife, on the other hand, was never in the spotlight, nor was she ever considered a public figure.
If she did eventually enter the public eye, it was only because of the various complications within her marriage to the very public Ivo...
Ivo had this tendency to become somewhat unstable, which caused his private struggles to spill over into the public domain—an occurrence that certainly doesn't qualify as politics. Just to offer you a bit of professional guidance: politics is what Joe Biden, Jeff Sessions, and hundreds of others involved in public life engage in while vying for power or exercising it. It seems you might be an amateur when it comes to these distinctions...☕

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