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Dealing with "brain fog" and mental health issues when you can't pinpoint the cause or a solution

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Andrew Lopez10 Andrew Lopez10 NewcomerOP
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joined Sep 2011
#1 ·
First off, I have absolutely no clue how to even title this thread... Basically, how are you supposed to deal with mental health struggles when there isn't some concrete reason behind them? It sounds incredibly stupid. I get that someone might be spiraling because they can't land a specific date, and I realize that could feel like their entire world is ending, but what do you actually do in a case that's that exaggerated?
I honestly don't know how to put this into words, and since I'm terrible at talking about abstract concepts, I guess it's best to just lay it out using my own life.
I have everything, yet I have nothing 🙂

To anyone looking in from the outside, it looks like I’ve made it, but internally, I feel like I’m standing there with empty hands. On paper, my life has been solid—good family, financial security, a decent education, a solid circle of friends. Sure, there were plenty of moments in my experience where things felt excruciatingly painful, leaving me feeling isolated, rejected, or just plain weird, but I never let that show. I played the part, pretended everything was fine, and refused to ever look weak.
The truth is, I feel like a completely different person today, but I don't even know who that is because it feels like my whole identity has just... evaporated. Everything feels diluted.
By nature—back in my childhood before life started conditioning me—I was an extrovert, open, happy, and just full of energy. Over time, because of all the crap I went through, I became more guarded just to protect myself, though I still managed to stay satisfied and happy within my own sense of grandeur. I’ve written about this before, how I lean toward narcissism (not in the cliché way people use the term), and I think that's accurate; I relate to a lot of the literature on it since I've spent so much time studying it.

I’m in psychotherapy now, and I’ve laid it all bare. I’m not hiding anything from myself anymore; I’ve dragged out all this pathetic, shameful side of my soul, the part where I feel like the most worthless human being on the planet. I’ve revisited my childhood, processed it, and I see it all clearly now. Honestly, therapy is starting to feel predictable; I know exactly what’s coming next and roughly what my therapist is going to tell me. I don't even believe anyone else can fix me anymore—I know it’s all on me and entirely within my own head.
But man, it gives me the chills when I look at who I am today. It creeps me out that my only real ambitions involve finishing my degree and landing a job just so I can secure some material stability and a shred of status. Nothing else comes from within me anymore, at least not with the intensity it used to. I'm young, and everything just feels so damn bleak; that old optimism and zest for life have completely vanished, but I won't sit here and wallow, otherwise I'll be doing this until tomorrow... How do you help yourself? How do you move forward when you don't have one single concrete problem or any tangible obstacle stopping you from getting what you want and enjoying life? Yeah, I know, "it's all in your head." But what is the actual next step after over a year of intense therapy and non-stop soul-searching, confronting the very things I used to run from?
Maybe patience... maybe. But I’m terrified because I have this nagging feeling that nothing has actually been resolved, even after opening up all those wounds.

What I’ve finally realized is that I really, truly hate myself. Like, deep down in my bones. I’m a walking contradiction of extremes. I used to feel good only when I could convince myself I was great while keeping all the dark thoughts buried deep in my subconscious. Then they all bubbled up, and I basically lost my mind (a million symptoms later), and while I'm better now, I still know it's all right there—that I'm still unstable, fragile, and miserable. I just want that old kid back, the one who was full of happiness, optimism, and a genuine will to live.
I don't have creativity or ideas left—the kind that actually come from me, rather than just being fantasies about professional success. 😁

Anyway, yeah, I don't know... are there others out there dealing with these vague, non-specific problems and fears? Anyone else who had everything, yet felt like they had nothing? 😢

My therapist told me I shouldn't feel guilty because even though my parents seemingly gave me everything, they totally missed the mark. She put it like this: it's like giving a kid a million of the newest toys, but they're still starving. Yeah, they didn't truly *see* me, they didn't know how to connect with me, but is it really such a catastrophic mistake that I have to be dealing with this mess today?🙂
boldwalker12 boldwalker12 Active Member
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joined Jul 2010
#2 ·
So, how long have you been in therapy? Oh, my bad, I missed that part. You mentioned a year. Honestly, a year isn't really enough time when the issues you're dealing with didn't just pop up overnight. But let me ask you this—do you actually feel like you're heading somewhere? Like, do you feel any actual progress?

Look, psychotherapy can be a total grind. There are plenty of days where you'll sit there wondering what the hell the point is. But if you’ve actually found a competent therapist, it's worth the struggle. You get those genuine "aha!" moments and a sense of relief that goes way deeper than just venting to some random person who doesn't know what they're doing.

And regarding the whole parenting thing? Giving your kids absolutely everything can actually be just as damaging as giving them nothing at all. If that "giving" is totally irrational, you end up swinging between two extremes: either they live in a bubble like they're under a glass dome, or you just throw money at them and end up with a spoiled kid.
Andrew Lopez10 Andrew Lopez10 NewcomerOP
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joined Sep 2011
#3 ·
Ugh, trying to map out my whole psychotherapeutic journey is honestly way too complicated for a single post 🤣 😁

So, I bounced from Gestalt therapy over to psychoanalysis for maybe two or three months before circling right back to Gestalt again.
Look, I get that a year might not seem like a massive amount of time to some people, but I feel like I’ve already hit the core of it—or at least, I finally see the big picture. Honestly, there’s no point in me rehashing every single specific instance because they all followed the exact same pattern: just me feeling embarrassed and alienated.

I can't tell you how many times I felt like life was actually better during that initial phase when I was still blissfully living a lie. The second I walked into therapy and finally admitted, "Everything is fake, I'm finally feeling myself," everything just went south. I became a total neurotic wreck, drowning in this sense of worthlessness that had been buried deep down until then, and now I can't even find my way back to that old sense of self-worth I used to have. It feels like I'm stuck in this loop forever 🙂

Anyway, I don't know. It sucks. 😁

PS Regarding the therapy itself, I seriously feel like we've hit a wall. There's nothing left to say, and we're just digging through the same dirt and obsessing over the same old topics over and over. We have a great rapport and we know each other inside and out, which is exactly why I'm sitting here wondering what else I'd even be doing there.
boldwalker12 boldwalker12 Active Member
101 messages
joined Jul 2010
#4 ·
Honestly, you messed up by switching things up mid-stream. You can't treat this like a series of disconnected events; therapy needs to be a continuous journey. It takes actual time to build a real rapport with your therapist, and you aren't going to solve deep-seated issues just by jumping from one provider to another like you're channel surfing.

When things started getting intense and heavy, that was actually the moment you should have dug in and stayed the course to work through it—even if you needed to lean on medication to make it bearable. Because look, you haven't actually gained anything from walking away. It’s like going to the dentist because you have a massive cavity, and the second they start drilling, you beg them to stop and just stuff the hole back up. Guess what? It still hurts, and the tooth is still rotten. You could have just asked for some local anesthesia (or meds) and finished the job properly.

p.s. You really need to lay this out for her. Trust me, there can be a massive breakthrough in therapy when you finally get honest about stuff like this. That’s literally part of the process. That feeling of "this isn't working at all" might actually be the catalyst that pushes you to a whole new level. Just give it a shot; you've got nothing to lose. Tell her exactly what you told us here.
Michelle Evans Michelle Evans Regular
320 messages
joined Jan 2013
#5 ·
Andrew Lopez10 said:Ugh, trying to map out my whole psychotherapeutic journey is honestly way too complicated for a single post 🤣 😁

So, I bounced from Gestalt therapy over to psychoanalysis for maybe two or three months before circling right back to Gestalt again.
Look, I get that a year might not seem like a massive amount of time to some people, but I feel like I’ve already hit the core of it—or at least, I finally see the big picture. Honestly, there’s no point in me rehashing every single specific instance because they all followed the exact same pattern: just me feeling embarrassed and alienated.

I can't tell you how many times I felt like life was actually better during that initial phase when I was still blissfully living a lie. The second I walked into therapy and finally admitted, "Everything is fake, I'm finally feeling myself," everything just went south. I became a total neurotic wreck, drowning in this sense of worthlessness that had been buried deep down until then, and now I can't even find my way back to that old sense of self-worth I used to have. It feels like I'm stuck in this loop forever 🙂

Anyway, I don't know. It sucks. 😁

PS Regarding the therapy itself, I seriously feel like we've hit a wall. There's nothing left to say, and we're just digging through the same dirt and obsessing over the same old topics over and over. We have a great rapport and we know each other inside and out, which is exactly why I'm sitting here wondering what else I'd even be doing there.

Well, if you're feeling exactly how he described above, then your impression that there's nothing left to work on is mistaken. The whole point of therapy isn't to leave you feeling worse in the end. And it certainly isn't finished just because you've built a rapport with your therapist. That's actually when the real work begins. 😬I'd say you have plenty left to tackle...
ambermason16 ambermason16 Active Member
213 messages
joined Apr 2009
#6 ·
Andrew Lopez10, if there’s any merit to what you’re saying—I get you. Dealing with mental health issues is hard enough on its own. But dealing with that, plus carrying this crushing weight of guilt because you feel like you have no excuse? That’s a double whammy. Međutoa, there is *always* a reason. Even if it's just bad genetics. If it isn't obvious DNA, then it's some distant branch of your family tree. Add in a bit of circumstance, some mistakes made during your upbringing, a heavy dose of pure bad luck, and maybe even a dash of McCormick. 🙂

Here’s the bottom line: the "why" matters far less than you think, even if we can't fully wrap our heads around it. At least, not when you're trying to kickstart recovery. That's where people trip up. You've realized there's a problem. Great. Now the next move is seeking help. Once you hand the reins over to a professional, they'll guide you through the healing process, and somewhere along the way, the root cause will reveal itself. You’ll eventually confront that motherfucker, and things will finally click. But to get to that point, you have to start helping yourself. That's the whole point. You can't change the starting line, so stop obsessing over it. Stop staring in the rearview mirror—stare through the windshield. 😉
fadedbear92 fadedbear92 Veteran
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joined Dec 2008
#7 ·
Andrew Lopez10 said:Ugh, trying to map out my whole psychotherapeutic journey is honestly way too complicated for a single post 🤣 😁

So, I bounced from Gestalt therapy over to psychoanalysis for maybe two or three months before circling right back to Gestalt again.
Look, I get that a year might not seem like a massive amount of time to some people, but I feel like I’ve already hit the core of it—or at least, I finally see the big picture. Honestly, there’s no point in me rehashing every single specific instance because they all followed the exact same pattern: just me feeling embarrassed and alienated.

I can't tell you how many times I felt like life was actually better during that initial phase when I was still blissfully living a lie. The second I walked into therapy and finally admitted, "Everything is fake, I'm finally feeling myself," everything just went south. I became a total neurotic wreck, drowning in this sense of worthlessness that had been buried deep down until then, and now I can't even find my way back to that old sense of self-worth I used to have. It feels like I'm stuck in this loop forever 🙂

Anyway, I don't know. It sucks. 😁

PS Regarding the therapy itself, I seriously feel like we've hit a wall. There's nothing left to say, and we're just digging through the same dirt and obsessing over the same old topics over and over. We have a great rapport and we know each other inside and out, which is exactly why I'm sitting here wondering what else I'd even be doing there.

dragec, you've barely even scratched the surface! You've finally built that foundation of trust, and now comes the real heavy lifting. Don't throw in the towel yet!😉
Jacob Mitchell3 Jacob Mitchell3 Member
20 messages
joined Jul 2011
#8 ·
ambermason16 said:Andrew Lopez10, if there’s any merit to what you’re saying—I get you. Dealing with mental health issues is hard enough on its own. But dealing with that, plus carrying this crushing weight of guilt because you feel like you have no excuse? That’s a double whammy. Međutoa, there is *always* a reason. Even if it's just bad genetics. If it isn't obvious DNA, then it's some distant branch of your family tree. Add in a bit of circumstance, some mistakes made during your upbringing, a heavy dose of pure bad luck, and maybe even a dash of McCormick. 🙂

Here’s the bottom line: the "why" matters far less than you think, even if we can't fully wrap our heads around it. At least, not when you're trying to kickstart recovery. That's where people trip up. You've realized there's a problem. Great. Now the next move is seeking help. Once you hand the reins over to a professional, they'll guide you through the healing process, and somewhere along the way, the root cause will reveal itself. You’ll eventually confront that motherfucker, and things will finally click. But to get to that point, you have to start helping yourself. That's the whole point. You can't change the starting line, so stop obsessing over it. Stop staring in the rearview mirror—stare through the windshield. 😉

What does a person who isn't mentally broken actually look like? How do they carry themselves? How do they live their lives? Give me a description.

The crux of the matter is this: the underlying cause, however elusive it may be, doesn't really matter at the start of the journey. At least, not if you want to move forward. Once you acknowledge the problem exists, the next logical step is seeking assistance. You hand the reins over to a professional, and they guide you through the recovery process. Somewhere along that path, the root cause usually reveals itself.

What kind of "recovery" are we all talking about here?
What sort of person is supposed to emerge once one has "recovered"?

I fail to see why there is such an obsession with this idea of recovery. Everyone speaks as if there is a universal blueprint for a "normal," balanced individual who functions with perfect efficiency, and as if we should all be striving toward that specific ideal. Who authored this template? Why should we care about meeting it? And who decided that anyone failing to fit this arbitrary mold requires medical intervention?

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