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John Stewart9 John Stewart9 MemberOP
22 messages
joined Dec 2011
#1 ·
Every once in a while, I feel this wave of what people call a "quarter-life crisis" hitting me, and honestly, the intensity fluctuates quite a bit... it’s basically that identity crisis you get when you're in your twenties or early thirties, though those lines aren't exactly set in stone. Since I'm already pushing through the back half of my twenties, things feel a little heavy—I'm still grinding through college, I don't have a girlfriend, and my friendships seem to be constantly drifting or hitting weird patches. I know plenty of other guys out there dealing with the exact same stuff, but man, knowing I'm not alone doesn't really make it feel any better. On the flip side, I see so many friends and acquaintances who graduated ages ago, landed solid jobs, and are already deep into the whole marriage and family thing—and naturally, I end up seeing them way less often than I used to. College isn't even the biggest headache, even if it's something I can't ignore; at the end of the day, you just finish it whenever you finally cross that finish line. But on a personal level, everything feels way more complicated: the years are slipping by, and I haven't met anyone I could actually see myself building a life with... marriage and kids still feel like something straight out of a sci-fi movie to me. My parents have never really given me a hard time about it, but I can definitely sense that expectation hanging in the air, along with some pressure from the relatives I actually care about, making me feel like I should be doing something more... And truth be told, I wish things were different too, because when I was younger, I was totally convinced all of this would just happen naturally. Since it hasn't, I've started feeling this creeping discomfort, a hit to my self-confidence, and this nagging guilt because I'm not working yet, I don't have a partner, and it feels like I've wasted so much time... anyone who's spent a long time stuck in school will totally get what I mean 😉. Plus, my relationships with friends are always up and down; one day we're tight, and the next I'm not even sure where we stand... it seems like everyone is just trying to find their own lane, or like they say, searching for themselves. There's also this heavy dose of nostalgia for those happier, simpler times in the past, too
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If you guys are going through something similar or have had these kinds of experiences, please share them...
Timothy Grant28 Timothy Grant28 Newcomer
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joined Sep 2011
#2 ·
Yeah, you're spot on

My situation is just a bit different. I’ve got a long-term girlfriend and we're actually engaged
Career-wise, I’m pulling in an above-average American salary
I still have the same core group of friends from middle school—and I mean actual friends, not those random people who just drift in and out of your life

But here's my dilemma: Is this really it?
Get married, have a kid... is that honestly the whole deal? Is that all there is to life?

I catch myself thinking about just packing up and leaving. No goodbye, just take out a loan and vanish from everyone's radar

But honestly, thanks for this depressing post. It actually helps me stay put (not even joking), because sometimes you need to see someone else hitting rock bottom just to appreciate what you've actually got

Sorry for the heavy post, and thanks at the same time
rowdymason38 rowdymason38 Newcomer
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joined Dec 2011
#3 ·
You’re living reactively—not proactively.
Melissa Sanchez8 Melissa Sanchez8 Active Member
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#4 ·
I’m in a pretty similar boat—same age, single, and surrounded by people who are either married or in heavy relationships. You know how it is, the family expectations are always there... but I don't dwell on the negative anymore (even though I used to). It’s not that I feel lonely—I definitely miss having someone, even if I’m in no rush to tie the knot—but when I look at the people around me, they don't actually seem any happier just because they're coupled up (some have kids and all that). Honestly, sometimes they seem more stressed out and constantly complaining about something.

Listening to them makes me realize everything happens in its own natural timing, at least for me. The difference is, unlike you, this realization didn't hit me until now. With a bit more experience, I've become way more optimistic. I've got my career going, finished my degree, and I truly feel like my life is just getting started. For now, I’m doing what I want and going wherever I want.
I often think about how much unhappier I would be stuck in a bad marriage right now than I am being single, and that thought always puts things in perspective...
So, I really believe everything will fall into place eventually. There's no sense in rushing into something before you're ready, which is exactly what a lot of people do, and then they spend years regretting it.

But you also have to put in the work yourself. Why not just finish that degree? You mentioned yourself that you're just wasting time, when you could be using it so much more effectively. Clean house and cut out the toxic friendships too. That's what I did—it cleared my life out, and now I’m surrounded by quality friends who are actually there for me, just like I’m there for them. I don't waste my energy on the wrong people anymore. To find your path and actually find yourself, you have to start making those changes.
swiftorca32 swiftorca32 Newcomer
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#5 ·
John Stewart9

Man, that is some seriously soothing stuff you wrote there, hahaha! Honestly, if I had sat down to write the exact same thing, I probably would’ve ended up right on the same page as you.

And hey, let's just hope these are actually those classic, run-of-the-mill crises where everything feels heavy, you know? Like, maybe I just need to hit the brakes for a second so they don't snowball into something even bigger.
John Stewart9 John Stewart9 MemberOP
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joined Dec 2011
#6 ·
Timothy Grant28 said:Yeah, you're spot on

My situation is just a bit different. I’ve got a long-term girlfriend and we're actually engaged
Career-wise, I’m pulling in an above-average American salary
I still have the same core group of friends from middle school—and I mean actual friends, not those random people who just drift in and out of your life

But here's my dilemma: Is this really it?
Get married, have a kid... is that honestly the whole deal? Is that all there is to life?

I catch myself thinking about just packing up and leaving. No goodbye, just take out a loan and vanish from everyone's radar

But honestly, thanks for this depressing post. It actually helps me stay put (not even joking), because sometimes you need to see someone else hitting rock bottom just to appreciate what you've actually got

Sorry for the heavy post, and thanks at the same time

Don't even worry about apologizing, seriously... honestly, I think most of us feel a little bit better about our own lives whenever we see someone else dealing with something even more intense than what we're going through. There are those sociologists out there who argue that a person's whole identity is basically just "relational"—you know, like you're just a product formed by constantly comparing yourself to everyone else around you rather than being your own standalone thing... anyway, your situation definitely fits right into what the thread title is talking about, though I guess it’s a different flavor of struggle compared to mine... Melissa Sanchez8Look, I’m definitely not in the exact same boat as you, so I probably shouldn't be acting like some kind of guru, but man, it really sounds like there's this persistent void hanging over you... even though on paper, everything seems totally dialed in with a solid career, a beautiful wife, kids, and a great circle of friends. It’s like you’ve checked all the boxes that most people would say define a successful life, yet there's still that nagging feeling that something is missing... I honestly think you really need to dig deep and get to the bottom of what that emptiness actually is, because if you can just pinpoint where it's coming from, everything might start to click...

Yeah, looking back at my own post, it honestly sounds pretty depressing, which isn't really me at all—I'm definitely not that kind of person, at least not usually... It just comes across that way because when you strip away all the context and look at a single problem on its own, it starts to feel like this heavy, isolated thing, even though it’s really just part of the messy, everyday grind we all deal with...

John Stewart9 says...
rowdymason38 said:You’re living reactively—not proactively.

Look, don't get me wrong, I absolutely love a good witty one-liner or a clever little saying as much as the next guy, but honestly, trying to drop aphorisms and catchy phrases like that in a debate like this just doesn't really fit the vibe of the discussion...

Melissa Sanchez8 said:I’m in a pretty similar boat—same age, single, and surrounded by people who are either married or in heavy relationships. You know how it is, the family expectations are always there... but I don't dwell on the negative anymore (even though I used to). It’s not that I feel lonely—I definitely miss having someone, even if I’m in no rush to tie the knot—but when I look at the people around me, they don't actually seem any happier just because they're coupled up (some have kids and all that). Honestly, sometimes they seem more stressed out and constantly complaining about something.

Listening to them makes me realize everything happens in its own natural timing, at least for me. The difference is, unlike you, this realization didn't hit me until now. With a bit more experience, I've become way more optimistic. I've got my career going, finished my degree, and I truly feel like my life is just getting started. For now, I’m doing what I want and going wherever I want.
I often think about how much unhappier I would be stuck in a bad marriage right now than I am being single, and that thought always puts things in perspective...
So, I really believe everything will fall into place eventually. There's no sense in rushing into something before you're ready, which is exactly what a lot of people do, and then they spend years regretting it.

But you also have to put in the work yourself. Why not just finish that degree? You mentioned yourself that you're just wasting time, when you could be using it so much more effectively. Clean house and cut out the toxic friendships too. That's what I did—it cleared my life out, and now I’m surrounded by quality friends who are actually there for me, just like I’m there for them. I don't waste my energy on the wrong people anymore. To find your path and actually find yourself, you have to start making those changes.

Honestly, I’m in absolutely no rush to tie the knot or anything like that... I know plenty of people out there are jumping into all sorts of different kinds of relationships, but that's just not really my vibe. When you're looking for a potential partner, you kind of naturally envision them being someone who can actually fulfill you on both an emotional and physical level, so finding a high-quality relationship just becomes the logical next step after that... In other words, sure, I could be seeing some girls, but I already know deep down they won't be able to satisfy me in those big, essential ways—you know, physically, emotionally, or even intellectually—so I just write them off right from the jump...
Look, I totally get that there are some serious perks to being single...

Quincy:
When I listen to them, I realize everything is just unfolding in this logical, natural way, at least in my own life. It’s just that, unlike you, that realization didn't really hit me until this stage of my life (I guess getting more experience makes me a bit more of an optimist)... I've got my job, I finished college, and honestly, it feels like my life is just getting started. For now, I’m doing exactly what I want to do and going wherever the hell I want to go.
I find myself thinking all the time how much happier I'd be staying single right now rather than being stuck in some miserable marriage, and that thought always puts me in a better mood.
So, I truly believe everything is eventually going to fall into place. You shouldn't rush into anything before you're ready, and so many people have rushed in only to end up regretting it later.
I see an "upward trajectory" here, which basically means you might not even be in a crisis, or if you are, you're crushing it... but like I said before, I can't constantly exhaust myself by worrying about a potentially unhappy relationship, any more than I could spend every trip into downtown Chicago terrified that a car is going to plow into me.

Quincy:
But hey, you’ve gotta put in the work yourself. Why wouldn't you finish that degree? You even admitted you're just wasting time when you could be using it way more effectively. You need to clear the clutter out of your life—get rid of those toxic friendships (that's what I did, and now I’ve surrounded myself with high-quality friends who actually show up for me when things get heavy, just like I do for them, so I don't waste energy on people who drain me). To actually find your path and figure out who you are, you have to start making some changes.
College was definitely a weight on my subconscious during those years when I was drowning in exams, though I realized that a bit later on... now that I'm finally wrapping things up, I feel this huge sense of relief, even if the whole job hunt situation isn't exactly thrilling.
As for the friend thing, it’s a lot more complicated than that, and I’m honestly worried that those quick "cuts" you’re suggesting might come with some pretty heavy consequences. It's easy to just ghost someone who doesn't mean much to you and who you can easily swap out for someone else. But through our twenties, we all changed—it was inevitable—and it created this kind of gap between us, whether it was because of intellect, daily habits, life goals, or just where we ended up in life (though that obviously depends on the specific people and the context, of course)... for instance, sometimes it feels nearly impossible to find a single topic to talk about over coffee—which might be a sign that the connection is dead and gone, but the alternative is loneliness, and I've experienced that enough to know it's incredibly damaging to my mental health...
Bryan Morris5 Bryan Morris5 Newcomer
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#7 ·
I know quite a few people dealing with that exact same issue, and honestly, I might even fall into that category myself, even though I’m only in my early twenties... You mentioned that college was weighing on your subconscious because of the sheer number of exams you had to take—what do you mean by that, exactly? I'm not sure which university you attended, but it kind of gives me Fidelity Investments vibes 😁 since there are plenty of people there struggling with the same thing 😁
Melissa Sanchez8 Melissa Sanchez8 Active Member
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joined Mar 2015
#8 ·
John Stewart9 said:Don't even worry about apologizing, seriously... honestly, I think most of us feel a little bit better about our own lives whenever we see someone else dealing with something even more intense than what we're going through. There are those sociologists out there who argue that a person's whole identity is basically just "relational"—you know, like you're just a product formed by constantly comparing yourself to everyone else around you rather than being your own standalone thing... anyway, your situation definitely fits right into what the thread title is talking about, though I guess it’s a different flavor of struggle compared to mine... Melissa Sanchez8Look, I’m definitely not in the exact same boat as you, so I probably shouldn't be acting like some kind of guru, but man, it really sounds like there's this persistent void hanging over you... even though on paper, everything seems totally dialed in with a solid career, a beautiful wife, kids, and a great circle of friends. It’s like you’ve checked all the boxes that most people would say define a successful life, yet there's still that nagging feeling that something is missing... I honestly think you really need to dig deep and get to the bottom of what that emptiness actually is, because if you can just pinpoint where it's coming from, everything might start to click...

Yeah, looking back at my own post, it honestly sounds pretty depressing, which isn't really me at all—I'm definitely not that kind of person, at least not usually... It just comes across that way because when you strip away all the context and look at a single problem on its own, it starts to feel like this heavy, isolated thing, even though it’s really just part of the messy, everyday grind we all deal with...

John Stewart9 says...

Look, don't get me wrong, I absolutely love a good witty one-liner or a clever little saying as much as the next guy, but honestly, trying to drop aphorisms and catchy phrases like that in a debate like this just doesn't really fit the vibe of the discussion...

Honestly, I’m in absolutely no rush to tie the knot or anything like that... I know plenty of people out there are jumping into all sorts of different kinds of relationships, but that's just not really my vibe. When you're looking for a potential partner, you kind of naturally envision them being someone who can actually fulfill you on both an emotional and physical level, so finding a high-quality relationship just becomes the logical next step after that... In other words, sure, I could be seeing some girls, but I already know deep down they won't be able to satisfy me in those big, essential ways—you know, physically, emotionally, or even intellectually—so I just write them off right from the jump...
Look, I totally get that there are some serious perks to being single...

Quincy:
When I listen to them, I realize everything is just unfolding in this logical, natural way, at least in my own life. It’s just that, unlike you, that realization didn't really hit me until this stage of my life (I guess getting more experience makes me a bit more of an optimist)... I've got my job, I finished college, and honestly, it feels like my life is just getting started. For now, I’m doing exactly what I want to do and going wherever the hell I want to go.
I find myself thinking all the time how much happier I'd be staying single right now rather than being stuck in some miserable marriage, and that thought always puts me in a better mood.
So, I truly believe everything is eventually going to fall into place. You shouldn't rush into anything before you're ready, and so many people have rushed in only to end up regretting it later.
I see an "upward trajectory" here, which basically means you might not even be in a crisis, or if you are, you're crushing it... but like I said before, I can't constantly exhaust myself by worrying about a potentially unhappy relationship, any more than I could spend every trip into downtown Chicago terrified that a car is going to plow into me.

Quincy:
But hey, you’ve gotta put in the work yourself. Why wouldn't you finish that degree? You even admitted you're just wasting time when you could be using it way more effectively. You need to clear the clutter out of your life—get rid of those toxic friendships (that's what I did, and now I’ve surrounded myself with high-quality friends who actually show up for me when things get heavy, just like I do for them, so I don't waste energy on people who drain me). To actually find your path and figure out who you are, you have to start making some changes.
College was definitely a weight on my subconscious during those years when I was drowning in exams, though I realized that a bit later on... now that I'm finally wrapping things up, I feel this huge sense of relief, even if the whole job hunt situation isn't exactly thrilling.
As for the friend thing, it’s a lot more complicated than that, and I’m honestly worried that those quick "cuts" you’re suggesting might come with some pretty heavy consequences. It's easy to just ghost someone who doesn't mean much to you and who you can easily swap out for someone else. But through our twenties, we all changed—it was inevitable—and it created this kind of gap between us, whether it was because of intellect, daily habits, life goals, or just where we ended up in life (though that obviously depends on the specific people and the context, of course)... for instance, sometimes it feels nearly impossible to find a single topic to talk about over coffee—which might be a sign that the connection is dead and gone, but the alternative is loneliness, and I've experienced that enough to know it's incredibly damaging to my mental health...

We’re thinking along the same lines on that one. Honestly, I don't see anything negative here, but it feels like there's an unspoken "but" lurking behind that last sentence... as if all this doesn't actually make anyone any happier...
I know deep down that finding that perfect partner would be the icing on the cake... but since that’s just not happening right now, I’m trying to make the most of my time and focus on things that actually matter. Sometimes being on your own is just a less painful way to figure out who you really are...

John Stewart9:
I see an "upward trajectory" here, which tells me that maybe you aren't even dealing with a crisis—or if you are, you're crushing it... just like I told you before... I can't keep draining myself trying to find comfort in a relationship that’s just fundamentally broken... it's exhausting...It’s just like how I can’t spend my whole life avoiding downtown because I'm terrified of getting hit by a car...
I’ve been dealing with a crisis for a while now—in every sense of the word. But lately, I feel like I'm finally making headway with this loneliness thing. At least, that's how it feels to me...
I totally get where you're coming from... I've been through that exact same thing myself. All I can say is that now that I'm finally at the end of that whole "process," I just feel this weird sense of indifference, maybe with a tiny, lingering spark for someone in the back of my mind...

John Stewart9:
College used to be such a heavy weight on my subconscious back when I was drowning in exams... I didn't even realize how much it was dragging me down until now. I'm finally reaching the finish line, so there's definitely some relief there, even if the whole job market situation is making me feel pretty anxious...
When it comes to my friends, things get messy... and I’m honestly worried that those quick fixes you're suggesting might just end up blowing everything up in our faces... It’s easy to brush someone off when they don't mean a damn thing to you... And who exactly can you even swap out for someone else? Honestly, we all changed so much during the twenties... which was pretty much expected, I guess... so that we ended up... It feels like a bit of a divide has opened up between us...It could be anything, really... intellectual capacity, daily routines, long-term life goals, wins, failures, you name it. Of course, it all depends on who you're talking about, what level we're looking at, and how much weight you give it... It’s getting harder—and sometimes feels straight-up impossible—to find anything to actually talk about over coffee. Maybe that's just a sign that the connection is dead and there's nothing left to say... but then again, the alternative is... Loneliness...I’ve been through it myself, and let me tell you... it was absolutely toxic for my mental health.
Honestly, I’ve always been a believer in the idea that it’s better to be on your own than stuck in bad company. Not everyone is cut from the same cloth, and I get that...
The cuts I made involved walking away from people I’d known for anywhere from four to eight years... people who had been in my life since I was a kid. It left me pretty lonely, sure, but that solitude actually taught me something important: most of those relationships were doing more harm than good. When you finally step back and look at how people treated you—with some actual emotional distance—you start seeing things clearly. I realized they were just superficial acquaintances all along. I only thought they were true friends because I was the one doing all the heavy lifting...

The first stretch was rough, I won't lie, but I eventually realized I could hold my own. I learned how to rely entirely on myself, which changed everything. Don't get me wrong, I have a few genuine friends now—real ones—but if I say this out loud, I might sound a bit cold... but losing them wouldn't actually break me. It’s that thing you always read about in those American self-help books; once you truly realize you have yourself, loneliness just kind of loses its grip.
Once I wrap my head around love from that perspective, I feel like I'm finally back on top. 😉

I know everyone handles things differently. This was just how I managed to navigate my friendships, and it's how I'm trying to tackle romance. I don't think there's any harm in looking at someone else's journey... after all, you can't unlearn what you've been through.

At the end of the day, you just have to do what feels right for you—whatever makes you feel better. These crises? They're just temporary. They pass...
John Stewart9 John Stewart9 MemberOP
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#9 ·
Bryan Morris5 said:I know quite a few people dealing with that exact same issue, and honestly, I might even fall into that category myself, even though I’m only in my early twenties... You mentioned that college was weighing on your subconscious because of the sheer number of exams you had to take—what do you mean by that, exactly? I'm not sure which university you attended, but it kind of gives me Fidelity Investments vibes 😁 since there are plenty of people there struggling with the same thing 😁

I guess what I really mean is that I spent way too much time overthinking everything and just getting lost in my own head, especially since I was buried under a mountain of final exams to wrap up my degree... It felt like this constant weight sitting in the back of my mind, you know? Like even when I’d be out on a weekend in Chicago, I couldn't actually switch off or just live in the moment, not even after a few drinks... My confidence took a massive hit too, so I definitely wasn't out there trying to pick up girls or anything, and honestly, going out just started feeling like such a drag. I was basically just going through the motions, hitting the clubs out of pure habit because that's what I'd done for the last two or three years... And man, trying to get through college in a major hub like New York is a serious grind if you don't stay focused, otherwise you just end up throwing so much time and money down the drain... So yeah, that was the heavy lifting I was dealing with. If you've never felt that kind of pressure, honestly, you're lucky...

Nah, I'm telling you, it definitely isn't law school... 🙂 To make matters even worse, all my buddies and acquaintances who are on the legal track have already finished up their degrees...

Melissa Sanchez8 said:We’re thinking along the same lines on that one. Honestly, I don't see anything negative here, but it feels like there's an unspoken "but" lurking behind that last sentence... as if all this doesn't actually make anyone any happier...
I know deep down that finding that perfect partner would be the icing on the cake... but since that’s just not happening right now, I’m trying to make the most of my time and focus on things that actually matter. Sometimes being on your own is just a less painful way to figure out who you really are...

John Stewart9:
I see an "upward trajectory" here, which tells me that maybe you aren't even dealing with a crisis—or if you are, you're crushing it... just like I told you before... I can't keep draining myself trying to find comfort in a relationship that’s just fundamentally broken... it's exhausting...It’s just like how I can’t spend my whole life avoiding downtown because I'm terrified of getting hit by a car...
I’ve been dealing with a crisis for a while now—in every sense of the word. But lately, I feel like I'm finally making headway with this loneliness thing. At least, that's how it feels to me...
I totally get where you're coming from... I've been through that exact same thing myself. All I can say is that now that I'm finally at the end of that whole "process," I just feel this weird sense of indifference, maybe with a tiny, lingering spark for someone in the back of my mind...

John Stewart9:
College used to be such a heavy weight on my subconscious back when I was drowning in exams... I didn't even realize how much it was dragging me down until now. I'm finally reaching the finish line, so there's definitely some relief there, even if the whole job market situation is making me feel pretty anxious...
When it comes to my friends, things get messy... and I’m honestly worried that those quick fixes you're suggesting might just end up blowing everything up in our faces... It’s easy to brush someone off when they don't mean a damn thing to you... And who exactly can you even swap out for someone else? Honestly, we all changed so much during the twenties... which was pretty much expected, I guess... so that we ended up... It feels like a bit of a divide has opened up between us...It could be anything, really... intellectual capacity, daily routines, long-term life goals, wins, failures, you name it. Of course, it all depends on who you're talking about, what level we're looking at, and how much weight you give it... It’s getting harder—and sometimes feels straight-up impossible—to find anything to actually talk about over coffee. Maybe that's just a sign that the connection is dead and there's nothing left to say... but then again, the alternative is... Loneliness...I’ve been through it myself, and let me tell you... it was absolutely toxic for my mental health.
Honestly, I’ve always been a believer in the idea that it’s better to be on your own than stuck in bad company. Not everyone is cut from the same cloth, and I get that...
The cuts I made involved walking away from people I’d known for anywhere from four to eight years... people who had been in my life since I was a kid. It left me pretty lonely, sure, but that solitude actually taught me something important: most of those relationships were doing more harm than good. When you finally step back and look at how people treated you—with some actual emotional distance—you start seeing things clearly. I realized they were just superficial acquaintances all along. I only thought they were true friends because I was the one doing all the heavy lifting...

The first stretch was rough, I won't lie, but I eventually realized I could hold my own. I learned how to rely entirely on myself, which changed everything. Don't get me wrong, I have a few genuine friends now—real ones—but if I say this out loud, I might sound a bit cold... but losing them wouldn't actually break me. It’s that thing you always read about in those American self-help books; once you truly realize you have yourself, loneliness just kind of loses its grip.
Once I wrap my head around love from that perspective, I feel like I'm finally back on top. 😉

I know everyone handles things differently. This was just how I managed to navigate my friendships, and it's how I'm trying to tackle romance. I don't think there's any harm in looking at someone else's journey... after all, you can't unlearn what you've been through.

At the end of the day, you just have to do what feels right for you—whatever makes you feel better. These crises? They're just temporary. They pass...

I mean, I’m totally on board with everything being said here, and honestly, I’m doing alright on my own, but like I mentioned before, the years are definitely starting to pile up... and the only time I actually got serious with someone was about six years ago, and even that was super brief. It’s just starting to get to me, you know? Like, there isn't even the slightest hint that things might change anytime soon... I've basically been flying solo since my high school days and I still haven't stumbled upon "the one" (not counting those random flings here and there, obviously). Now I've got all this pressure from everyone around me, and I can't exactly just switch that off, so I guess I just have to deal with it...

John Stewart9 said:
Honestly, I’ve always been of the mindset that it’s way better to just fly solo than to hang out with a crowd that doesn't vibe with you... I mean, at the end of the day, everyone is wired differently and we aren't all cut from the same cloth, which I totally get...
The cuts I made in my life involved walking away from people I’d known for anywhere from four to eight years—you know, those childhood friends who have been around since the playground days... The fallout was definitely this heavy sense of loneliness, but honestly, it was in that quiet solitude that I finally realized those connections were doing way more harm than good. It’s funny how once you take a step back and look at someone’s behavior with some actual emotional distance and a little breathing room, you start seeing things in a whole new light... I eventually had to face the fact that most of those ties were just incredibly superficial, even though I’d spent all my energy treating them like deep, lifelong friendships because I was always the one putting in all the work...

Even though things were pretty rough during my first stretch, I finally realized that I can actually hold my own out there. I’ve learned how to just lean on myself, you know? Nowadays, I can honestly say I’ve got a handful of true-blue friends who really mean something to me, but—and maybe this sounds a little cold—if I lost them, I don't think it would crush me. It’s kind of like that thing they always talk about in all those American self-help books, where once you realize you actually have your own back, that crushing feeling of loneliness just kind of disappears...
Once I wrap my head around love from that perspective, I feel like I'm totally on top of my game. 😉
I mean, I can definitely function on my own too, but only up to a certain point. Later on, speaking from experience, things start getting heavy and this negative vibe starts creeping in... okay, so luckily I can say I have friends, it’s just that our relationships—just like us as individuals—are way more complicated now than they were back in high school or during those early college years. Honestly, I just wouldn't be able to hack it alone for very long.

The bottom line is just to do whatever you feel is right for you so you can walk away feeling better, because these crises are just temporary phases that eventually pass...

I'm with you on that
William Sanchez80 William Sanchez80 Newcomer
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#10 ·
You’ve got it all wrong. Life isn't some linear assembly line where you check off boxes one by one—daycare, school, college, marriage, kids... that's not how it works. Most people are out here running multiple tracks at once. They're grinding through a degree while working, or raising a family while hunting for a career. Honestly? I think that's the smarter way to play it. All those people who insist on doing everything "sequentially"—and then they finally land the house and the white picket fence—usually end up totally broke, or they're too old, or they can't even have kids anymore because they waited too damn long.

At first glance, you sound like someone who just feels powerless against the world, and frankly, that's a bad look. You're just sitting there waiting for things to "just happen." Look, man, nothing is just going to fall into your lap. In this life, you and everyone else have to grab the reins and actually drive. It’s called taking RESPONSIBILITY for your own existence. As long as you're busy pointing fingers at someone else—your mom, your dad, your college professor—nothing is ever going to get better. Get out there and grab life by the throat! I’m telling you this with the best intentions, based on my own hard lessons...
Jose Sanchez13 Jose Sanchez13 Newcomer
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#11 ·
Well, I find myself navigating a remarkably similar predicament, though my own struggle has been a persistent identity crisis for as long as I can remember. Currently, I am without a traditional career, without a steady circle of friends, and without a partner; it becomes quite overwhelming when I catch myself viewing my life through the judgmental lens of others. When I observe my peers dutifully checking off every societal milestone, it feels alienating, yet when I strip away the suffocating weight of external expectations, I realize I have no desire for a conventional 9-to-5, nor do I crave the shallow companionship of people who cling to such pedestrian perspectives. Honestly, I would much rather be alone than enter a relationship just to satisfy some arbitrary social quota based on my age—the sheer monotony of the prescribed path, from finishing school to working, marrying, having kids, and eventually retiring only to die, is enough to trigger a deep sense of depression 🙂.
Furthermore, the outside world and its constant noise are utterly draining; people sap my energy, and if I weren't able to carve out a few solitary hours each day just to exist in peace, I truly believe I would suffer a complete mental breakdown 🙂.
If I ever intend to alter the trajectory of my life, I will first have to dismantle these rigid psychological barriers—boundaries that I have constructed both within myself and through the influence of my environment—and break free from the erroneous beliefs that have become permanently cemented in my mind, which is easily the most grueling part of the process
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John Martin16 John Martin16 Member
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joined Nov 2010
#12 ·
Bryan Morris5 said:I know quite a few people dealing with that exact same issue, and honestly, I might even fall into that category myself, even though I’m only in my early twenties... You mentioned that college was weighing on your subconscious because of the sheer number of exams you had to take—what do you mean by that, exactly? I'm not sure which university you attended, but it kind of gives me Fidelity Investments vibes 😁 since there are plenty of people there struggling with the same thing 😁

Yeah, I feel the same way. 😁
Basically, I run into plenty of people stuck in the same boat. They find themselves in some sort of... The status quo is a trap. It’s stagnation disguised as stability. Most people cling to it because they fear the friction of change, but sitting still is just slow-motion failure. We need movement. Real progress requires breaking the current mold, not just polishing it.Nothing is moving. Not on any level.
We shouldn't just sit here and do nothing. But even with the best intentions, making actual progress feels nearly impossible right now. I don't like being a pessimist, but I'm at a stage in my life where reality has hit me hard. I tried to break out of this monotonous routine, only to be let down by people. Again. My confidence and trust are shot, and I’m stuck in a vicious cycle. 🤷
Daniel Foster86 Daniel Foster86 Newcomer
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#13 ·
Alright, I’ll weigh in too 🙂. I’m 27—and no, don't give me that "you're just young and everything is a crisis" attitude. I definitely experience some of these same "symptoms," though there's a catch: I’ve always been in serious relationships, or at least some kind of committed partnership. So, how does this crisis actually play out for me? It’s like this—two years ago, I went through the exact same thing regarding college. It was that whole "look at everyone else, they're all landing jobs while I'm stuck here" spiral. As for marriage, I don't spend much time obsessing over it because, let's face it, same-sex marriage isn't legal here in the States, so at least that's one less thing to lose sleep over 😁. But I can certainly draw a parallel to your "question" about marriage and commitment. Like I said, I’ve only ever done serious stuff; it's not foreign territory to me. I’ve been in a relationship for two years now, and before that, it was a 3.5-year stint. Basically, my real fear is losing that capacity for deep happiness and fulfillment through these long-term commitments. That’s how I might end up mirroring your lack of interest in women. I start off interested, but then... the spark just dies.
Anyway, those specific triggers—like the college stress—have mostly settled down, but the underlying struggle remains: searching for purpose and trying to find the least painful way to navigate life moving forward. Right now, I’m trying not to dwell on it and attempting to stay positive, but if you were to peer into the depths of my soul or my brain, you'd still find those nagging questions. How am I supposed to survive a serious relationship if I don't even believe I *can* survive one? How do I steer my life onto the right path so that one day, when I'm old, I'm not looking back and asking myself where my youth went, or regretting things only once it's far too late to change them? 😕
John Stewart9 John Stewart9 MemberOP
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joined Dec 2011
#14 ·
William Sanchez80 said:You’ve got it all wrong. Life isn't some linear assembly line where you check off boxes one by one—daycare, school, college, marriage, kids... that's not how it works. Most people are out here running multiple tracks at once. They're grinding through a degree while working, or raising a family while hunting for a career. Honestly? I think that's the smarter way to play it. All those people who insist on doing everything "sequentially"—and then they finally land the house and the white picket fence—usually end up totally broke, or they're too old, or they can't even have kids anymore because they waited too damn long.

At first glance, you sound like someone who just feels powerless against the world, and frankly, that's a bad look. You're just sitting there waiting for things to "just happen." Look, man, nothing is just going to fall into your lap. In this life, you and everyone else have to grab the reins and actually drive. It’s called taking RESPONSIBILITY for your own existence. As long as you're busy pointing fingers at someone else—your mom, your dad, your college professor—nothing is ever going to get better. Get out there and grab life by the throat! I’m telling you this with the best intentions, based on my own hard lessons...

It’s actually super interesting how some people seem to follow this perfect little blueprint while others just drift through life without any rhyme or reason... I have friends on both sides of that spectrum, and those of us in the "drifter" category are always wondering what kind of secret sauce those "planners" are using to get everything so perfectly lined up...

At first glance, you sound like someone who feels totally powerless against the world, which isn't a great headspace to be in... you're basically just waiting for things to "happen" to you... look, buddy, nothing in this life just falls into your lap, you've gotta grab the reins and drive your own life if you want anything to change... it's called taking responsibility for your own existence, because as long as you're pointing fingers at your parents, your professors, or your boss, you're never going to move forward... you've gotta dig in and make it happen! I'm telling you this with nothing but good intentions based on my own life lessons...

A wise person understands their own limits and what they can handle, but they also know they need to check in with themselves every now and then... obviously, how much effort you put in matters immensely for your future, but let's be real, we're all tied to some web of circumstances, some random X-factor that we have almost zero control over... the trouble starts when that web gets tangled in a way that works against us... I'm not out here blaming specific people, I'm more looking at the bigger picture, this combination of factors that left me feeling frustrated—mostly regarding my romantic life—and a bit pessimistic about the general state of things... basically, what we can actually control in our lives is pretty limited...
Rachel Bennett5 Rachel Bennett5 Newcomer
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#15 ·
Everything’s fine as long as you actually have some hope and stay positive. But things don't just fix themselves. The hardest part is realizing you're basically on your own. I'm stuck in that exact headspace right now—just finished my degree and I can't seem to get any momentum. Honestly, I'm even questioning if picking Law was a massive mistake... though maybe it's too late to bail now. Or am I just being biased? Who knows. It feels wrong to quit even though I'm definitely not some genius student. My dating life hasn't been much better, mostly just dealing with total losers, except for my last guy, but there’s never been a period where I wasn't seeing someone. Weird, I know. I feel like I need some space, but I can't just dump my long-term boyfriend out of nowhere; I know he cares way more about this than I do. Basically, everything is a mess right now, and I keep trying to ignore it, which sucks because avoiding stuff just builds up stress. You gotta find a way to face what's ACTUALLY eating at you and deal with it. Otherwise, you're just sitting around waiting for a lucky break that might never come.
John Martin16 John Martin16 Member
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joined Nov 2010
#16 ·
Rachel Bennett5 said:Everything’s fine as long as you actually have some hope and stay positive. But things don't just fix themselves. The hardest part is realizing you're basically on your own. I'm stuck in that exact headspace right now—just finished my degree and I can't seem to get any momentum. Honestly, I'm even questioning if picking Law was a massive mistake... though maybe it's too late to bail now. Or am I just being biased? Who knows. It feels wrong to quit even though I'm definitely not some genius student. My dating life hasn't been much better, mostly just dealing with total losers, except for my last guy, but there’s never been a period where I wasn't seeing someone. Weird, I know. I feel like I need some space, but I can't just dump my long-term boyfriend out of nowhere; I know he cares way more about this than I do. Basically, everything is a mess right now, and I keep trying to ignore it, which sucks because avoiding stuff just builds up stress. You gotta find a way to face what's ACTUALLY eating at you and deal with it. Otherwise, you're just sitting around waiting for a lucky break that might never come.

Yeah, that law degree... I also hit a wall right after graduation due to various circumstances... You have to force yourself... but sometimes you just lose your spark and feel like every single part of your life is failing... Until recently, at least one area was going great and kept me going. But here we are.
Sweeping problems under the rug is a bad move. You should probably talk to your boyfriend about what's eating at you... it will make things easier.
Daniel Foster86 Daniel Foster86 Newcomer
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joined Dec 2011
#17 ·
Rachel Bennett5 said:Everything’s fine as long as you actually have some hope and stay positive. But things don't just fix themselves. The hardest part is realizing you're basically on your own. I'm stuck in that exact headspace right now—just finished my degree and I can't seem to get any momentum. Honestly, I'm even questioning if picking Law was a massive mistake... though maybe it's too late to bail now. Or am I just being biased? Who knows. It feels wrong to quit even though I'm definitely not some genius student. My dating life hasn't been much better, mostly just dealing with total losers, except for my last guy, but there’s never been a period where I wasn't seeing someone. Weird, I know. I feel like I need some space, but I can't just dump my long-term boyfriend out of nowhere; I know he cares way more about this than I do. Basically, everything is a mess right now, and I keep trying to ignore it, which sucks because avoiding stuff just builds up stress. You gotta find a way to face what's ACTUALLY eating at you and deal with it. Otherwise, you're just sitting around waiting for a lucky break that might never come.

I honestly don't think that's true. Look, if you're going to sit there and obsess over a problem—and I mean *actually* thinking about how to solve it and then actually taking action—then fine. But otherwise? It's useless. If the thinking isn't constructive, it's just destructive. I'm talking about that endless loop where you tell yourself, "Ugh, I feel terrible, this relationship is a disaster, but I can't leave them, so I guess I'll just stay stuck right here," and then you repeat those exact same thoughts every single day, reaching the same dead end every time. If we were actually being productive about solving our problems, we probably wouldn't be having these constant crises we're all venting about here. So, in my opinion, the fact that we're even posting on this forum proves that our thoughts aren't exactly "superfluous."
Jose Sanchez13 Jose Sanchez13 Newcomer
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joined Dec 2011
#18 ·
John Stewart9 said:It’s actually super interesting how some people seem to follow this perfect little blueprint while others just drift through life without any rhyme or reason... I have friends on both sides of that spectrum, and those of us in the "drifter" category are always wondering what kind of secret sauce those "planners" are using to get everything so perfectly lined up...

At first glance, you sound like someone who feels totally powerless against the world, which isn't a great headspace to be in... you're basically just waiting for things to "happen" to you... look, buddy, nothing in this life just falls into your lap, you've gotta grab the reins and drive your own life if you want anything to change... it's called taking responsibility for your own existence, because as long as you're pointing fingers at your parents, your professors, or your boss, you're never going to move forward... you've gotta dig in and make it happen! I'm telling you this with nothing but good intentions based on my own life lessons...

A wise person understands their own limits and what they can handle, but they also know they need to check in with themselves every now and then... obviously, how much effort you put in matters immensely for your future, but let's be real, we're all tied to some web of circumstances, some random X-factor that we have almost zero control over... the trouble starts when that web gets tangled in a way that works against us... I'm not out here blaming specific people, I'm more looking at the bigger picture, this combination of factors that left me feeling frustrated—mostly regarding my romantic life—and a bit pessimistic about the general state of things... basically, what we can actually control in our lives is pretty limited...

I am certainly not suggesting that one's circumstances aren't shaped by good deeds, but I firmly believe that adopting the mindset that our lives are dictated by some "higher power" is absolutely ruinous. It breeds a sense of sickness; I spent a long time being completely cemented in that exact way of thinking, so believe me when I say how destructive it is. It becomes far too easy to use fate as a convenient excuse for one's own passivity. We are back to the eternal debate: determinism versus free will. While it is true that we all operate within certain constraints and frameworks, we must at least attempt to push against those borders, even if only slightly. In many cases, we are the ones who built those cages ourselves, or at the very least, we allowed others to build them for us. The absolute worst thing you can do is lose faith entirely.
Daniel Foster86 Daniel Foster86 Newcomer
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#19 ·
I honestly feel like we’re all just burning through way too much mental energy obsessing over things that drain us, when we really ought to be redirecting that focus toward something productive and actually useful. Look, everyone knows that in theory, right? But here’s the real kicker: how the hell are we supposed to actually do it? It feels like half the time, that internal pull is just stronger than our own willpower. You find yourself getting sucked back into the problem, spiraling, instead of focusing on something positive. It’s exhausting. Personally, I think we might need to look into things like autogenic training—there’s actually a thread about that on this forum if you care to look—or even leaning into autosuggestion to try and rewire these behavioral patterns.
Jose Sanchez13 Jose Sanchez13 Newcomer
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#20 ·
Daniel Foster86 said:I honestly don't think that's true. Look, if you're going to sit there and obsess over a problem—and I mean *actually* thinking about how to solve it and then actually taking action—then fine. But otherwise? It's useless. If the thinking isn't constructive, it's just destructive. I'm talking about that endless loop where you tell yourself, "Ugh, I feel terrible, this relationship is a disaster, but I can't leave them, so I guess I'll just stay stuck right here," and then you repeat those exact same thoughts every single day, reaching the same dead end every time. If we were actually being productive about solving our problems, we probably wouldn't be having these constant crises we're all venting about here. So, in my opinion, the fact that we're even posting on this forum proves that our thoughts aren't exactly "superfluous."

Precisely. By exerting control over our thoughts, we can effectively manage our emotions, given that our thoughts are what generate them in the first place. I recall reading somewhere that happiness is ultimately a choice, an intentional decision, and I find myself in complete agreement with that sentiment. At the end of the day, the path of least resistance is simply to say, "I can't do this," or "It's too much for me," and essentially bury oneself where they stand. One must practice rigorous mental discipline.🙂

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