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Rebecca White4 Rebecca White4 Member
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joined Jan 2013
#41 ·
Michael Gonzalez6 said:I could really use some advice here. It looks like my parents might be facing an OVR regarding their personal belongings—since they don't own a car, the focus will likely be on everything inside the house. I know the general assumption is that whatever is in the home belongs to the homeowner, but I’m worried about how to prove certain items are actually mine—like my laptop, phone, or jewelry. I bought those myself using my scholarship money and earnings from my part-time student job, but I have no idea how to actually prove that in court. Theoretically, someone could just claim everything in the apartment belongs to them to prevent an OVR, right?
I'd appreciate a quick response if possible.

Why don't you just move your stuff somewhere else before the Marshal shows up?

They’ll tell you the exact day and time they're coming, so you'll have plenty of time to prepare...

If they end up seizing your property anyway, you’ll have to file a third-party claim to argue that the seizure of those specific items should be declared invalid. But if the creditor refuses to budge, you're looking at a full-blown lawsuit where you'll have to sue to have the seizure overturned for those particular items.
Nicholas Nguyen4 Nicholas Nguyen4 Newcomer
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#42 ·
So, let me ask you something,

it feels like they're just throwing out minor stuff—like, a couple of bruises, nothing really, zero...—and basically just bullying someone with these "psychological trauma" claims that haven't been proven by anything other than his word about being on sick leave for ten days because of "shock" or whatever...

Look, what happens if I don't have any cash to pay the settlement the court hands down? I've got nothing to my name except a car I'm still paying off for a few more years.
What’s the actual process? And realistically, how much do people get paid for a massive NOTHING like this? Also, if I transfer the car title over to my brother or sister, does that keep it safe from OVR?

Thanks for the help.
Arthur Smith56 Arthur Smith56 Member
11 messages
joined Jan 2013
#43 ·
I could really use some insight here....

So, I just got hit with a garnishment notice from AT&T... This account was actually settled way back in August 2002. There was an attempt to collect in 2003, but they couldn't find any funds to grab!! Then, out of nowhere, another garnishment pops up in 2010, which we immediately contested... Basically, nothing happened between 2003 and 2010... No warnings, no notices, absolutely nothing...

Now, they’ve rejected our appeal. They're insisting on moving forward with the garnishment through an employer where the person hasn't worked for five years...
The paperwork claims they couldn't collect before... but the person has been steadily employed this whole time...

One more thing... the documents claim there was also a garnishment attempt in 2007, but we pulled court records proving we received zero communication from them between 2003 and 2010. Is the court still going to push this garnishment through regardless?
Michael Gonzalez6 Michael Gonzalez6 Newcomer
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joined Jan 2013
#44 ·
Rebecca White4 said:Why don't you just move your stuff somewhere else before the Marshal shows up?

They’ll tell you the exact day and time they're coming, so you'll have plenty of time to prepare...

If they end up seizing your property anyway, you’ll have to file a third-party claim to argue that the seizure of those specific items should be declared invalid. But if the creditor refuses to budge, you're looking at a full-blown lawsuit where you'll have to sue to have the seizure overturned for those particular items.

Thanks for the input, but I really don't think they give any heads-up on when they're arriving. If they did, nobody would ever leave anything unattended in their apartment.

If I go through with filing a claim, how am I supposed to prove all this stuff belongs to me?
I mean, a phone is easy enough to trace, but a laptop or jewelry? There’s no paper trail for that. Like I mentioned, I bought the laptop myself, but my jewelry was mostly gifts from my First Communion and Confirmation—and honestly, I'd be devastated to lose any of it.
nimbleheron nimbleheron Newcomer
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#45 ·
Hey everyone

I was hoping someone could help me out with a quick question

I’m acting as the guardian for my son, who receives survivor benefits. He’s also legally unable to manage his own finances. So, he just got hit with a garnishment order from JPMorgan Chase, and they're currently taking 1/3 of his pension. I guess what I'm wondering is, once that initial 1/3 is cleared, can they come back for more later on? Just so you know, I receive the pension into my account since I'm the guardian...

Thanks!
casualcyclist18 casualcyclist18 Newcomer
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joined Jan 2013
#46 ·
Hi, I could really use some advice here:

Here’s the short version: my sister and I inherited a house after our mother passed away, along with about $13,000 in debt spread across five or six different banks. My sister isn't working—her husband is a chronic gambler who burns through everything they have—and they have four kids to support. As for me, my paycheck is already pretty stretched thin with my own existing loans. We can't reach an agreement on selling the house because my sister and her husband are insisting on an unrealistic asking price, which is basically killing any chance of a market-value sale. I looked into partitioning the ownership, but apparently, that takes up to a year and costs money, and the banks are already starting to send warning notices and demands.
The issue is that the banks are going to start garnishing my wages very soon, while my sister won't be affected at all since she has zero income. I need my remaining take-home pay just to cover basic living expenses so I can actually show up to work and function, and I don't think it's fair that I'm the only one getting hit with these debt collections.

I'm wondering if I can go to one of the banks and essentially offer them the inherited house so they can initiate a foreclosure and a public auction through a lawyer or the courts. If I do that, could all the banks settle their claims all at once from the proceeds, including covering all legal costs, and then split whatever is left over between the two of us?
Because if things stay the way they are and the banks just start hitting my paycheck, I won't have enough to live on, and the banks will just end up waiting a long time anyway to recover what they're owed.
Is there a way to trigger a process like this? How would it work? Do I need to submit a formal written request or petition, or is it enough to just walk into the bank and talk to someone, or should I head straight to a lawyer first?
Also, is there any way my sister could legally contest this kind of proceeding to stall for time? She seems convinced the house value is just going to keep climbing, so she thinks she'll end up with more money—even though she's living out in the middle of nowhere.
Linda Fowler2 Linda Fowler2 Newcomer
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#47 ·
To whom it may concern,
I have a question that nobody seems capable of answering with any degree of certainty, and since I need an answer immediately, I am reaching out here.

The situation is this: Since 2003, I have had a judgment lien against all my bank accounts stemming from a court ruling that went against me back then. This February, the ten-year statute of limitations on that specific judgment finally expires. My question is, WHO exactly do I need to formally invoke the statute of limitations against regarding this 2003 judgment? For the record, there have been no new claims, appeals, or any other legal maneuvers from the opposing party in the interim.
Thanks for the help.
Matthew Wilson59 Matthew Wilson59 Newcomer
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#48 ·
I know everyone here has much bigger headaches than mine, but if anyone could spare a minute to weigh in on this, I’d appreciate it.
Basically, I’ve never actually needed a lawyer before, and I definitely don't have money to throw away on legal fees, so I'm looking for some advice...
A garnishment was placed on my bank account. While reviewing the paperwork, I realized I had legitimate grounds to contest the seizure, so I filed an appeal. The court actually ruled in my favor. But even though the court decision came through during the enforcement period (within that 30-day window), the funds were still permanently seized.
Now I need to get my money back. The folks at the bank told me they could release the funds either voluntarily or through a counter-garnishment process. I tried reaching out to the creditors directly, but they’re acting like the case is already closed on their end. I'm attempting to track down their clients, but that’s proving to be a massive headache...
It’s starting to look like I might have to hire an attorney...
Does anyone know how that process actually works? And what kind of costs am I looking at?
Brandon Fox9 Brandon Fox9 Member
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joined Feb 2008
#49 ·
Linda Fowler2 said:To whom it may concern,
I have a question that nobody seems capable of answering with any degree of certainty, and since I need an answer immediately, I am reaching out here.

The situation is this: Since 2003, I have had a judgment lien against all my bank accounts stemming from a court ruling that went against me back then. This February, the ten-year statute of limitations on that specific judgment finally expires. My question is, WHO exactly do I need to formally invoke the statute of limitations against regarding this 2003 judgment? For the record, there have been no new claims, appeals, or any other legal maneuvers from the opposing party in the interim.
Thanks for the help.

The statute of limitations doesn't apply if the enforcement process is still active...
Brandon Fox9 Brandon Fox9 Member
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joined Feb 2008
#50 ·
Matthew Wilson59 said:I know everyone here has much bigger headaches than mine, but if anyone could spare a minute to weigh in on this, I’d appreciate it.
Basically, I’ve never actually needed a lawyer before, and I definitely don't have money to throw away on legal fees, so I'm looking for some advice...
A garnishment was placed on my bank account. While reviewing the paperwork, I realized I had legitimate grounds to contest the seizure, so I filed an appeal. The court actually ruled in my favor. But even though the court decision came through during the enforcement period (within that 30-day window), the funds were still permanently seized.
Now I need to get my money back. The folks at the bank told me they could release the funds either voluntarily or through a counter-garnishment process. I tried reaching out to the creditors directly, but they’re acting like the case is already closed on their end. I'm attempting to track down their clients, but that’s proving to be a massive headache...
It’s starting to look like I might have to hire an attorney...
Does anyone know how that process actually works? And what kind of costs am I looking at?

I have to admit, I'm finding it a bit hard to follow what you're saying here...
In any case, you should probably hire a lawyer, or at least provide a few more details...
Jesse Mendoza60 Jesse Mendoza60 Member
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joined Jan 2013
#51 ·
Linda Fowler2 said:To whom it may concern,
I have a question that nobody seems capable of answering with any degree of certainty, and since I need an answer immediately, I am reaching out here.

The situation is this: Since 2003, I have had a judgment lien against all my bank accounts stemming from a court ruling that went against me back then. This February, the ten-year statute of limitations on that specific judgment finally expires. My question is, WHO exactly do I need to formally invoke the statute of limitations against regarding this 2003 judgment? For the record, there have been no new claims, appeals, or any other legal maneuvers from the opposing party in the interim.
Thanks for the help.


It's 10 years under federal law, but only if the creditor hasn't taken any active steps during that time to restart the clock, like trying to change how they're collecting...
Steven Price11 Steven Price11 Newcomer
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#52 ·
redcrane22 said:Actually, that’s not quite how it works. Loans always come before any kind of foreclosure or seizure. I’m not sure where you heard that, but it’s definitely not the case.

Think of it this way: first, they try to collect on the loan itself, and only if there’s still an outstanding balance left over does it escalate into a formal legal seizure.

If you want to dig deeper into how these legal proceedings actually play out, check this out:

That is wrong. A legal seizure takes precedence over an administrative hold on a payroll account, unless that administrative hold has been notarized and carries the weight of a court order. If you just have a standard administrative hold on a loan, it won't be enforced if a court-ordered or notary-certified seizure is in place.
Steven Price11 Steven Price11 Newcomer
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joined Oct 2012
#53 ·
grba123 said:Our assumption is that the account is overdrawn $333. Consequently, the account is frozen until funds arrive. Let’s assume $500 hits that account, which is legally subject to garnishment. If $500 is deposited into an account that is currently in the red $333, the balance becomes positive $167. Following any standard legal or mathematical logic, those funds are now AVAILABLE and subject to seizure .

No, banks like JPMorgan Chase don't report available funds; they report the inflow amount, which is their obligation. If a MasterCard payment from $233 hits in the meantime, the bank will process it regardless of the overdraft, simply increasing the negative balance by that amount
Jeffrey Fox4 Jeffrey Fox4 Newcomer
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#54 ·
Brandon Fox9 said:The statute of limitations doesn't apply if the enforcement process is still active...

What do you mean there isn't? If a judgment order has dozens of different line items, the collection happens sequentially—one bill at a time.
If, after 10 years from when the collection started—assuming the debt is being paid regularly—there are still specific bills that haven't actually been billed yet, then the statute of limitations can totally apply to those specific ones.

Some guy just explained this to me recently using this exact PDF. Obviously, you have to actually initiate the legal process and specifically cite the statute of limitations FOR those particular bills.
crimsonsailor7 crimsonsailor7 Active Member
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joined May 2010
#55 ·
Jeffrey Fox4 said:What do you mean there isn't? If a judgment order has dozens of different line items, the collection happens sequentially—one bill at a time.
If, after 10 years from when the collection started—assuming the debt is being paid regularly—there are still specific bills that haven't actually been billed yet, then the statute of limitations can totally apply to those specific ones.

Some guy just explained this to me recently using this exact PDF. Obviously, you have to actually initiate the legal process and specifically cite the statute of limitations FOR those particular bills.

Look, I'm not saying statutes of limitations don't exist at all... they definitely do for other types of stuff, obviously. But you can't just apply it to what's already in motion here. What that person was trying to explain wasn't quite what you're making it out to be... that ten-year rule only really kicks in if there hasn't been any attempt to collect the debt at all, it doesn't count if the collection process is already ongoing and has nothing to do with bills that were never even sent out for payment in the first place...
Brandon Fox9 Brandon Fox9 Member
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joined Feb 2008
#56 ·
Jeffrey Fox4 said:What do you mean there isn't? If a judgment order has dozens of different line items, the collection happens sequentially—one bill at a time.
If, after 10 years from when the collection started—assuming the debt is being paid regularly—there are still specific bills that haven't actually been billed yet, then the statute of limitations can totally apply to those specific ones.

Some guy just explained this to me recently using this exact PDF. Obviously, you have to actually initiate the legal process and specifically cite the statute of limitations FOR those particular bills.

Well, if that's the case, then whoever told you that clearly gave you the wrong information...
John Clark6 John Clark6 Regular
290 messages
joined Jun 2011
#57 ·
I have to admit, I’m feeling a little lost here too—after ten years, if the creditor hasn't actually taken any concrete steps toward collection—say, they just sent a notice to the bank and then everything went silent—you can't exactly go after an enforcement order once that ten-year mark has passed, right? I mean, wouldn't you need to file some kind of motion or appeal with the court to have the enforcement declared inadmissible? My thinking is that just having a notice sitting there at a bank like JPMorgan Chase doesn't actually count as interrupting the statute of limitations... please, do correct me if I'm totally off base!
steelmoose71 steelmoose71 Newcomer
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joined Feb 2013
#58 ·
I have a question regarding co-ownership. Suppose two brothers own a property together. One brother is financially spotless, while the other is essentially one bad day away from total insolvency. If creditors finally come knocking on his door, can they seize the entire property? The debt actually exceeds the value of the home itself. What happens to the asset, and what rights does the clean co-owner actually have?🤷
Olivia Garcia6 Olivia Garcia6 Newcomer
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joined Feb 2013
#59 ·
So, I just got hit with a garnishment notice—well, it's actually directed at my husband. The weird part is, the address listed on the paperwork is one he was never even registered at. Back then, we weren't even living together yet; I was the one registered at that specific address when the notice arrived, while he was living somewhere else entirely—on the other side of town, actually. And apparently, this whole thing is over some old subscription with an American media network.
The period they’re looking at is from January through June of 2012—but I moved out of that address back in September 2011. And again, just to be clear, he was NEVER registered there. I mean, how is that even possible? I have an eight-day window to pay almost $333, or they’re just going to freeze his bank account. How do I fix this? I've been calling the media company all day, and I tried reaching out to that law firm—Skadden, Arps—but of course, I can't get anyone on the line!! I even reached out to a consumer protection group, but they just told me to call back on Monday. I'll do that, obviously, but honestly, I feel like I'm going to have a nervous breakdown before Monday rolls around.🙂
Can anyone help me out here? Is there any actual chance of getting this sorted?
Brian Edwards6 Brian Edwards6 Active Member
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joined Nov 2015
#60 ·
Nobody can really call it until they see exactly what they're dealing with.🤷

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