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granitetinker8 granitetinker8 Member
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joined Mar 2011
#941 ·
Can anyone help me out here?
My husband just got hit with an enforcement notice/seizure order stating he has 8 days to pay the debt, otherwise they’re going to come after his wages directly. Since we didn't pay it, what happens now? We haven't heard anything from the bank and nothing has been taken from his paycheck yet. How long does it actually take for them to start hitting the salary? I really need a quick answer on this. Thanks.
ruggedmaker2 ruggedmaker2 Regular
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joined Mar 2018
#942 ·
It all depends on when they actually get that paperwork over to the IRS.
granitetinker8 granitetinker8 Member
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joined Mar 2011
#943 ·
The worst part is that the child support money from the city is supposed to hit that account right around when the kid is six or seven months old. How am I even supposed to find out if it actually went through?
granitetinker8 granitetinker8 Member
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joined Mar 2011
#944 ·
And do they tack on any crazy interest rates before the debt actually goes to collections?
granitetinker8 granitetinker8 Member
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joined Mar 2011
#945 ·
One more thing—can I go ahead and set up a protected account right now, or do I have to wait until the IRS actually hits my account with a seizure?
hollowmason64 hollowmason64 Regular
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joined Jan 2016
#946 ·
urbantiger53 said:I was wondering if having an outstanding debt of about 70 bucks with AT&T $0.00...might affect my ability to get some
new lines in the city where you live?

Look, I’ve gotta say it—how on earth did you end up with a $70 bill from AT&T? 🤣

granitetinker8 said:The worst part is that the child support money from the city is supposed to hit that account right around when the kid is six or seven months old. How am I even supposed to find out if it actually went through?

There are several ways to go about it... for instance, you could just check in with the enforcement office.
ruggedmaker2 ruggedmaker2 Regular
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#947 ·
granitetinker8 said:One more thing—can I go ahead and set up a protected account right now, or do I have to wait until the IRS actually hits my account with a seizure?

Look, you can totally set up a protected account before the seizure even happens. Just make sure your husband brings that enforcement office notice along when he heads down to the bank.
Since the legal notice is technically under his name, he’s the one who needs to walk in and open the protected account.
urbantiger53 urbantiger53 Member
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joined Feb 2014
#948 ·
hollowmason64;49790147 said:I’ve gotta say it—how on earth did you end up with a bill for 70k
from an AT&T bill? 🤣

He's looking at two different seizures for $15,000 each, plus all the interest... we're talking about a proposed seizure dating all the way back to 2006. It hasn't even hit the IRS yet. Now that he's about to close on a house, I'm wondering if telecom companies can actually go after real estate. I read somewhere that they aren't allowed to take property... is that true?
hollowmason64 hollowmason64 Regular
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#949 ·
urbantiger53 said:two different seizures for $15,000 each plus all that interest... we're talking about a seizure proposal dating back to 2006... it hasn't even hit the IRS yet. Now he's about to get an apartment, and I was wondering if companies like AT&T can actually seize real estate? I read somewhere that telecom companies aren't allowed to do that...???????

First off, you should check if any of those debts have actually expired under the statute of limitations, assuming they haven't been merged into a single legal case.
Second—a seizure is a seizure. It doesn't really matter who the creditor is; they can all collect the money just the same. The only thing that changes is how long they have to act before the debt expires.
They don't necessarily have to force a sale or take your apartment away right away. They can simply place a lien on the property. If that happens, you'll be stuck with those debts hanging over your head indefinitely until they're paid off.
John Clark6 John Clark6 Regular
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#950 ·
But wait—why wouldn't they just initiate a seizure by selling off some real estate owned by the debtor? I mean, what's actually stopping them there? Why couldn't a telecom provider like AT&T just switch up their strategy and target property instead?
granitecyclist granitecyclist Member
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joined Mar 2023
#951 ·
I recently had some child support/income deposited into my bank account, which happens to be overdrawn. Right around then, I received an official notice from the IRS regarding a levy on my funds due to unpaid sales tax.
Now, my bank has notified me that I need to contact the IRS immediately—either by filing a formal notice regarding exempt income or other protected earnings—otherwise, those funds will be seized to satisfy the debt.
So, I’m weighing my options: should I let that money go toward covering my overdraft, especially since I expect this support payment every month, or should I just let it go toward paying down the tax debt?
steelpuma15 steelpuma15 Newcomer
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#952 ·
Hi,

Just one question here.
Is it actually possible for a debt of about 20 $0.00 in business taxes to result in a seizure of something owned by my parents, like their house or just stuff from the home? I don't have anything in my own name, though I am properly registered with them. Basically, I don't own a single thing, and I’m not even an owner of anything in that house. My wages are already being hit by an enforcement office order, and I'm losing $333 every month.

Thanks,
hollowmason64 hollowmason64 Regular
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#953 ·
steelpuma15 said:Hi,

Just one question here.
Is it actually possible for a debt of about 20 $0.00 in business taxes to result in a seizure of something owned by my parents, like their house or just stuff from the home? I don't have anything in my own name, though I am properly registered with them. Basically, I don't own a single thing, and I’m not even an owner of anything in that house. My wages are already being hit by an enforcement office order, and I'm losing $333 every month.

Thanks,

They can't seize anything that isn't legally yours. How did this even get to this point? Have they started an enforcement action against physical property yet?
And honestly, why didn't you work out a repayment plan with the IRS last year to reschedule the debt?
steelpuma15 steelpuma15 Newcomer
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#954 ·
hollowmason64 said:They can't seize anything that isn't legally yours. How did this even get to this point? Have they started an enforcement action against physical property yet?
And honestly, why didn't you work out a repayment plan with the IRS last year to reschedule the debt?

It wasn't a property levy; they just seized my income. Recently, I was called in for some kind of "consultation" where the folks at the IRS were trying to convince me I had to settle the entire debt within eight days—even though they'd already garnished my paycheck and I’d actually started paying it off. They threatened that if I didn't, they'd move to seize assets, requiring me to provide an itemized list of everything I own (or something like that). I told them that was impossible because I was only working part-time back then and simply didn't have the cash, to which she basically replied that she didn't care and suggested I just take out a loan to cover it.

As for restructuring the debt... that's a whole different story. It's complicated when you have an accountant who knows the ropes, and their advice to everyone is pretty much: don't skimp on the professionals.😉

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hollowmason64 hollowmason64 Regular
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#955 ·
steelpuma15 said:It wasn't a property levy; they just seized my income. Recently, I was called in for some kind of "consultation" where the folks at the IRS were trying to convince me I had to settle the entire debt within eight days—even though they'd already garnished my paycheck and I’d actually started paying it off. They threatened that if I didn't, they'd move to seize assets, requiring me to provide an itemized list of everything I own (or something like that). I told them that was impossible because I was only working part-time back then and simply didn't have the cash, to which she basically replied that she didn't care and suggested I just take out a loan to cover it.

As for restructuring the debt... that's a whole different story. It's complicated when you have an accountant who knows the ropes, and their advice to everyone is pretty much: don't skimp on the professionals.😉

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A consultation? 😕
I haven't heard of that one... those jokers at the government agencies will come up with anything to squeeze you, 🤣
Given how much you owe and the fact that you're already paying it down, I don't see any legal basis for them to go after your personal property—especially since some bureaucrat from the bottom of the food chain told you they would. It sounds like that lady at the IRS was just talking big. 😁
Besides, they can't touch it anyway if the property belongs to your parents; you can argue it's their asset, and there's not much they can do about that.
That said, for your own peace of mind, maybe look into clearing the debt with a small bank loan—it might actually end up being cheaper than what they're doing.
Also, try sending a formal written request to the IRS headquarters. Ask if there's any possibility of waiving the interest if you pay off the principal in one lump sum... you know, like someone giving you a break.

And regardless of how bad some accountants are (and trust me, they exist), how is your accountant responsible for this situation?
John Clark6 John Clark6 Regular
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joined Jun 2011
#956 ·
steelpuma15 said:It wasn't a property levy; they just seized my income. Recently, I was called in for some kind of "consultation" where the folks at the IRS were trying to convince me I had to settle the entire debt within eight days—even though they'd already garnished my paycheck and I’d actually started paying it off. They threatened that if I didn't, they'd move to seize assets, requiring me to provide an itemized list of everything I own (or something like that). I told them that was impossible because I was only working part-time back then and simply didn't have the cash, to which she basically replied that she didn't care and suggested I just take out a loan to cover it.

As for restructuring the debt... that's a whole different story. It's complicated when you have an accountant who knows the ropes, and their advice to everyone is pretty much: don't skimp on the professionals.😉

Sen from my TPC-7151 using Tapatalk

She probably thought the collection process would shift toward real estate or personal property (if you have any), though, of course, if you had an installment plan agreed upon and then failed to meet it—regardless of the reason—they could realistically jump straight to pursuing other assets.
John Clark6 John Clark6 Regular
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#957 ·
hollowmason64 said:A consultation? 😕
I haven't heard of that one... those jokers at the government agencies will come up with anything to squeeze you, 🤣
Given how much you owe and the fact that you're already paying it down, I don't see any legal basis for them to go after your personal property—especially since some bureaucrat from the bottom of the food chain told you they would. It sounds like that lady at the IRS was just talking big. 😁
Besides, they can't touch it anyway if the property belongs to your parents; you can argue it's their asset, and there's not much they can do about that.
That said, for your own peace of mind, maybe look into clearing the debt with a small bank loan—it might actually end up being cheaper than what they're doing.
Also, try sending a formal written request to the IRS headquarters. Ask if there's any possibility of waiving the interest if you pay off the principal in one lump sum... you know, like someone giving you a break.

And regardless of how bad some accountants are (and trust me, they exist), how is your accountant responsible for this situation?

I have to say, those "government bureaucrats" comments always sting me a little bit—last time, when people were calling lawyers the exact same thing, that guy actually won his case... but anyway...
Personally, I wouldn't be so quick to bash the fact that he was offered an installment plan and a repayment agreement. Though, on the flip side, I do suspect they might be trying to "trick" people into resetting the statute of limitations—since agreeing to a payment plan usually restarts that clock. Then again, the IRS hasn't done much of anything for years, so now that they're finally active, they're just desperate to collect.
hollowmason64 hollowmason64 Regular
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#958 ·
John Clark6 said:I have to say, those "government bureaucrats" comments always sting me a little bit—last time, when people were calling lawyers the exact same thing, that guy actually won his case... but anyway...
Personally, I wouldn't be so quick to bash the fact that he was offered an installment plan and a repayment agreement. Though, on the flip side, I do suspect they might be trying to "trick" people into resetting the statute of limitations—since agreeing to a payment plan usually restarts that clock. Then again, the IRS hasn't done much of anything for years, so now that they're finally active, they're just desperate to collect.

The comment was pretty general, really... 😁
As for lawyers, I don't think that applies to all of them—probably just a small minority, like in any profession—but when it comes to the IRS, nobody has anything nice to say. Part of that is because of what you mentioned earlier.

From what I gathered, he didn't even sign up for the restructuring program at all. 🤷
It honestly disgusts me how they try to intimidate people, especially someone who is clearly trying to pay their way out of this. Honestly, you have to wonder if they'll start asking for kidneys or egg cells next. It feels like they're just preying on people who were naive enough to set up LLCs instead of standard corporations, racking up debt until they get pushed into bankruptcy and then—poof—they're gone.
vividsailor19 vividsailor19 Newcomer
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joined May 2014
#959 ·
Hey everyone... I need some urgent help here, so if anyone could give me a quick answer, I'd really appreciate it. I tried searching for this thread, but it just keeps redirecting me to page 117, where there’s absolutely nothing about this topic.
I just got laid off, and since I'm eligible for severance, I'm wondering how exactly they're going to deposit it. It'll go straight into my checking account, even though I have a protected account set up. If that money hits my regular account, I can kiss it goodbye. Is there any way to save it before it's gone?
cosmicraven76 cosmicraven76 Newcomer
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joined May 2014
#960 ·
So, I ran into a bit of a mess today, and I'm wondering if anyone here actually has a sane answer, because the folks over at the IRS are anything but polite...🙂

Basically, my account is frozen—I've got a levy on it—but apparently, they track everything via my SSN, so whatever... One time I made about $333 online, and naturally, the levy snatched it up in a heartbeat. Ever since then, I've been living on checks and trying to dodge the banks as much as possible...🙂

Today, I actually took second place in a photography contest and won $267, but the catch is they have to deposit it into a checking account or some other stupid way, which just means my debt is gonna eat that money alive...:/

The bank teller told me there’s this thing called a protected account that bypasses levies, and suggested I head down to the IRS to get the details... Long story short, they told me no. They gave me basically zero explanation, probably because I had black nail polish on, so I immediately became the lowest form of life in the eyes of some clueless clerk behind the counter...

So, does anyone know if I can actually open that kind of account? And if not, why not...?:d

Thanks...🙂

*If this is in the wrong subforum, please move it...😁

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