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John Perez4 John Perez4 Newcomer
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joined May 2015
#1481 ·
John Clark6 said:Regarding your inquiry, there are a few key things to consider, so you'll have to connect the dots regarding what you needed to do and when...
First and foremost, you don't send an appeal to Scalia; you send it to the notary who issued the order. If you sent it to the first guy, then... well, that's on you, I guess.
The statute of limitations gets interrupted once the notary receives the motion for enforcement, and that's the date that really matters. Just because you received the notice three years later doesn't mean the statute of limitations (which is usually just a year, by the way) has run out...
The motion for enforcement is sent to your registered address via the local authorities. If you moved or were living somewhere else while your official address was listed elsewhere, your notice likely ended up posted on a courthouse bulletin board.
There are certain legal remedies outside of the standard process, but those only apply if you haven't already tripped up on the things I mentioned above.

I'm dealing with something pretty similar.
An execution hit one of my accounts from back in 2007—an account I am positive never even existed.
The notice was sent to the address where I used to live (the address tied to my AT&T connection), but after I moved, I either closed that account or transferred it to someone else—I'm still digging into that part.
The notary was sending warnings and rulings to that old service address instead of my actual residence.
Is there anything I can actually do about this now?

AT&T and the lawyer haven't given me the specific dates for when that contract was active, which is supposedly where this debt comes from. Meanwhile, the notary claims I signed some delivery receipt, which is absolute nonsense because I never saw it, let alone signed it—especially since I wasn't even living at that address at the time.
Frank Hughes40 Frank Hughes40 Newcomer
4 messages
joined May 2015
#1482 ·
Wait, as far as I can tell, T-Mobile and Verizon don't really handle their own collections, do they? Or am I totally off base here?
Angela Wright4 Angela Wright4 Member
17 messages
joined May 2015
#1483 ·
Where could the money have gone???

An account levy has started on my checking account following a court judgment.
I’ve been looking at my transaction history. My bank claims—and even provided a statement showing—that they transferred about $333 to the seizure account.
Then I check with the IRS, and they give me their own transaction report. According to their records, the amount collected via the levy was $167.

The actual amounts involved are much higher, but there is this consistent 2:1 discrepancy. What could possibly happen to the difference in funds that the IRS doesn't see, even though the bank insists they already sent it out??? Who do I contact to get this investigated? Everyone seems to be playing by their own set of rules and pointing fingers, while I'm just left here wondering where the money actually went. Seriously, who should I reach out to...
hollowmason64 hollowmason64 Regular
411 messages
joined Jan 2016
#1484 ·
copperfox172 said:Hey. The mailman dropped off a foreclosure notice from a notary for my husband today.
He owes money to Chase. We’re both unemployed right now. He's out looking for work.
Quick question: can they just hit his account, or does it automatically come after my funds too since we're married?
We have a mortgage on our place. Is there any way to protect the house? Even if the bank technically holds the title until the loan is paid off...
Thanks for the help.

If the garnishment is specifically against your husband, then it should only affect his individual accounts.
As for the house—it's possible that if the bank can't collect from his accounts, they might eventually shift their focus and file a lien against the property itself. But honestly, that usually depends on how much is owed.
John Clark6 John Clark6 Regular
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joined Jun 2011
#1485 ·
Angela Wright4 said:Where could the money have gone???

An account levy has started on my checking account following a court judgment.
I’ve been looking at my transaction history. My bank claims—and even provided a statement showing—that they transferred about $333 to the seizure account.
Then I check with the IRS, and they give me their own transaction report. According to their records, the amount collected via the levy was $167.

The actual amounts involved are much higher, but there is this consistent 2:1 discrepancy. What could possibly happen to the difference in funds that the IRS doesn't see, even though the bank insists they already sent it out??? Who do I contact to get this investigated? Everyone seems to be playing by their own set of rules and pointing fingers, while I'm just left here wondering where the money actually went. Seriously, who should I reach out to...

The IRS charges a specific fee for processing the garnishment...
Angela Wright4 Angela Wright4 Member
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joined May 2015
#1486 ·
Sure, they might be taking some, but are we really talking about thousands upon thousands of dollars? I mean, we're bordering on tens of thousands at this point, right? It just doesn't seem possible...
John Clark6 John Clark6 Regular
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joined Jun 2011
#1487 ·
Angela Wright4 said:Sure, they might be taking some, but are we really talking about thousands upon thousands of dollars? I mean, we're bordering on tens of thousands at this point, right? It just doesn't seem possible...

If you look at your $167 (the ones you mentioned), we actually end up looking at tens of thousands of dollars...
ruggedmaker2 ruggedmaker2 Regular
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joined Mar 2018
#1488 ·
Since we're talking about an enforcement based on a court judgment, I'm pretty sure the process works a bit differently.
Once they get all the paperwork squared away, the IRS notifies the bank about the seizure, and then the bank freezes the funds into a specific holding account for a set period.

If the IRS doesn't receive a stay from the court—or some other ruling declaring the seizure null and void—within that timeframe (honestly, I can't remember the exact number of days off the top of my head), only then does the IRS tell the bank to actually move the money from that account over.

I'm fairly certain this is all laid out somewhere in Section 206 of the Bankruptcy Code. 🤔
Angela Wright4 Angela Wright4 Member
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joined May 2015
#1489 ·
Thanks, I read through it.
But that logic doesn't really apply here because even if there was some kind of glitch during the wire transfer, the bailiff didn't receive the correct amount. Out of the two separate payments that hit the frozen account, the bailiff ended up getting... roughly 40% the first time and then 60% the second time?!?
That’s my point—he was sent much less than what should have actually gone through.

John Clark6, if we were talking about $167, I wouldn't have even noticed 😉
I just used small, round numbers to keep the proportions clear 🙂
Laura Kern63 Laura Kern63 Newcomer
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joined May 2015
#1490 ·
Hey everyone... I've got two unpaid bills sitting on my Diners Club card, and naturally, they've already frozen everything.
Does anyone here have any real-world experience with this? How long does it actually take before they start pulling the trigger on a garnishment against my checking account? Just trying to figure out how much breathing room I have left.
ruggedmaker2 ruggedmaker2 Regular
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#1491 ·
Just settle things up with Diners Club and you won't even have to deal with a legal seizure.
rowdycrane1 rowdycrane1 Newcomer
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joined May 2015
#1492 ·
Six months down the road.
Laura Kern63 Laura Kern63 Newcomer
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joined May 2015
#1493 ·
rowdycrane1 said:Six months down the road.

thanks
copperfox172 copperfox172 Active Member
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joined Apr 2011
#1494 ·
hollowmason64 said:If the garnishment is specifically against your husband, then it should only affect his individual accounts.
As for the house—it's possible that if the bank can't collect from his accounts, they might eventually shift their focus and file a lien against the property itself. But honestly, that usually depends on how much is owed.

We're staying current on the mortgage. The garnishments on his Chase account are actually several different ones. Between the penalties and the loans, it's a mess.
John Perez4 John Perez4 Newcomer
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joined May 2015
#1495 ·
So, AT&T and the IRS just hit me with some massive levy, and they actually managed to pull money right out of my account for some old debt from nearly a decade ago—some ancient landline bill.
I never even got a single notice that they were coming after me because I moved away from that address before this debt was even a thing.

The notary told me someone apparently signed for a certified letter that I never even laid eyes on. What am I supposed to do when someone else signs for my mail and then just... doesn't give it to me?
But here’s the kicker: AT&T is being incredibly shady and won't tell me exactly when my subscription ended, even though I’m telling them I canceled the service way before this debt ever existed.

Are they legally obligated to hand over those dates, or am I just expected to take their word for it?
And if (or when) it turns out they're full of it, what kind of moves can I actually make to fix this?
Justin Ramos7 Justin Ramos7 Newcomer
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joined May 2015
#1496 ·
ruggedmaker2;54343360 said:Since we're talking about an enforcement based on a court judgment, I suspect the process works a bit differently.
Once they have the paperwork in order, the IRS notifies the bank regarding the seizure, and the bank moves those funds into a specific holding account for a set period.

If the IRS doesn't receive a court order staying the execution or a ruling declaring the seizure void within that timeframe (I can't recall the exact number of days offhand), then the IRS finally instructs the bank to transfer the money from that holding account.

I believe you'll find the specifics somewhere in Section 206 of the Bankruptcy Code. 🤔[/QU

In practice, the IRS calculates its fees and interest the same day they receive a seizure request based on a court judgment. If the debtor has enough liquid assets, the funds are pulled immediately and moved into a dedicated IRS account. Once that sixty-day window closes without any legal intervention, the IRS transfers those seized funds over to the creditor's account.
ruggedmaker2 ruggedmaker2 Regular
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#1497 ·
So, that’s exactly why the bank statements and the IRS records don't match up.
Basically, the cash sits in some kind of holding account at the IRS for about 60 days—I don't know the technical nitty-gritty behind it, honestly—and only after that period does the IRS list actually show the money being transferred to the creditor's account.
That’s my take on it. I think everything is totally fine with what Angela Wright4 is seeing. Nobody is out here "hiding" anyone's money; it just isn't showing up on the creditor's payment list yet because that clock hasn't run out. Once the time passes and the transfer hits, it'll pop up right there on the 🤔.
Rebecca Morris10 Rebecca Morris10 Newcomer
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#1498 ·
Hey there.
Here’s my situation:

1. I received an enforcement order from a notary acting on behalf of Hanžeković, who is representing Eko-flor.
2. Since I have all my payment receipts ready to go, I filed an objection to the order.
3. Then, the District Court ruled that Eko-flor is dropping the whole proceeding.
4. However, the District Court also ruled that I'm on the hook for $33 court costs related to my objection.
5. I paid those within the 8-day legal window.

Question:
Who do I actually send a request to for a refund of those $33 costs—seeing as this wasn't my fault in the first place?

I dealt with something similar last year, except back then they didn't drop the case, so the costs were a bit higher (around $110). In that instance, Eko-flor just wired the money back to my account without any drama. I just can't remember if I sent that request directly to them or to the District Court.

Thanks.
Justin Ramos7 Justin Ramos7 Newcomer
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joined May 2015
#1499 ·
ruggedmaker2 said:So, that’s exactly why the bank statements and the IRS records don't match up.
Basically, the cash sits in some kind of holding account at the IRS for about 60 days—I don't know the technical nitty-gritty behind it, honestly—and only after that period does the IRS list actually show the money being transferred to the creditor's account.
That’s my take on it. I think everything is totally fine with what Angela Wright4 is seeing. Nobody is out here "hiding" anyone's money; it just isn't showing up on the creditor's payment list yet because that clock hasn't run out. Once the time passes and the transfer hits, it'll pop up right there on the 🤔.

Just so you know, if you want to see whether the IRS has already seized the funds following a judgment—regardless of that 60-day window—you can walk into any local branch during those 60 days and ask them to check how much seized money is currently sitting in the IRS's special holding account.
hollowmason64 hollowmason64 Regular
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joined Jan 2016
#1500 ·
copperfox172 said:We're staying current on the mortgage. The garnishments on his Chase account are actually several different ones. Between the penalties and the loans, it's a mess.

It doesn't really matter if they're paying the mortgage on time. If they don't start addressing the garnishment, especially if it's a significant amount or if the attorney is being proactive, they can eventually just file a lien against the property just to make sure the debt doesn't expire under the statute of limitations.

John Perez4 said:So, AT&T and the IRS just hit me with some massive levy, and they actually managed to pull money right out of my account for some old debt from nearly a decade ago—some ancient landline bill.
I never even got a single notice that they were coming after me because I moved away from that address before this debt was even a thing.

The notary told me someone apparently signed for a certified letter that I never even laid eyes on. What am I supposed to do when someone else signs for my mail and then just... doesn't give it to me?
But here’s the kicker: AT&T is being incredibly shady and won't tell me exactly when my subscription ended, even though I’m telling them I canceled the service way before this debt ever existed.

Are they legally obligated to hand over those dates, or am I just expected to take their word for it?
And if (or when) it turns out they're full of it, what kind of moves can I actually make to fix this?

Request access to the case files.

Rebecca Morris10 said:Hey there.
Here’s my situation:

1. I received an enforcement order from a notary acting on behalf of Hanžeković, who is representing Eko-flor.
2. Since I have all my payment receipts ready to go, I filed an objection to the order.
3. Then, the District Court ruled that Eko-flor is dropping the whole proceeding.
4. However, the District Court also ruled that I'm on the hook for $33 court costs related to my objection.
5. I paid those within the 8-day legal window.

Question:
Who do I actually send a request to for a refund of those $33 costs—seeing as this wasn't my fault in the first place?

I dealt with something similar last year, except back then they didn't drop the case, so the costs were a bit higher (around $110). In that instance, Eko-flor just wired the money back to my account without any drama. I just can't remember if I sent that request directly to them or to the District Court.

Thanks.

Eko-flor is the one at fault here.
I feel like I hear about them making mistakes like this all the time.

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