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Phantom pregnancy: What's your experience?

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Alex Thomas27 Alex Thomas27 MemberOP
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#1 ·
I’m curious about what actually goes on in a woman's mind
1) right before the meltdown starts
2) while it's happening
3) once she snaps back to reality

Also, if a doctor diagnoses a woman with pregnancy based solely on symptoms—without running any actual tests—and she just accepts it even though there's no baby, does that count as a psychosomatic pregnancy?

And another thing: if someone starts feeling "pregnant" just a few hours after unprotected sex, is she being hysterical? I mean, physically speaking, you can't have symptoms that early, regardless of whether conception happened or not, because it’s biologically impossible to feel those symptoms that soon

What kind of psychological factors drive this kind of mental state?
driftinggull21 driftinggull21 Active Member
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#2 ·
Pregnancy is clinically confirmed via ultrasound; no competent physician would ever diagnose it any other way.

This is typically a matter of delusional thinking—or perhaps even a genuine psychotic episode—coupled with the simulation of pregnancy symptoms.
The preferred treatment: antipsychotics.
Alex Thomas27 Alex Thomas27 MemberOP
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#3 ·
driftinggull21 said:Pregnancy is clinically confirmed via ultrasound; no competent physician would ever diagnose it any other way.

This is typically a matter of delusional thinking—or perhaps even a genuine psychotic episode—coupled with the simulation of pregnancy symptoms.
The preferred treatment: antipsychotics.

Fair enough, but what if she's actually experiencing symptoms prematurely? Let me clarify: let's say this hypothetical woman *is* pregnant, but she's feeling symptoms way too early—before any physical signs should realistically be showing up.
driftinggull21 driftinggull21 Active Member
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Alex Thomas27 said:Fair enough, but what if she's actually experiencing symptoms prematurely? Let me clarify: let's say this hypothetical woman *is* pregnant, but she's feeling symptoms way too early—before any physical signs should realistically be showing up.

That implies she is delusional or psychotic. While not an everyday occurrence in psychiatry, cases of pseudocyesis—phantom pregnancy—do exist.
Imagining sensations and having a distorted perception of reality falls under the umbrella of psychotic disorders.
(If someone is experiencing visual, auditory, or tactile hallucinations, they can also experience cenesthetic hallucinations; in this specific case, they might feel fetal movement that isn't actually happening because there is no fetus.)
Alex Thomas27 Alex Thomas27 MemberOP
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#5 ·
So, she's either delusional or experiencing psychosis. Pseudocyesis—phantom pregnancies—isn't exactly common in psychiatry, but it does happen.

I don't think you quite caught my drift. The woman actually *is* pregnant, but she’s exhibiting symptoms way too early. My question is: how do you even begin to treat someone in that situation? And more importantly, how do you go about diagnosing psychosis in the first place?
driftinggull21 driftinggull21 Active Member
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#6 ·
Alex Thomas27 said:
So, she's either delusional or experiencing psychosis. Pseudocyesis—phantom pregnancies—isn't exactly common in psychiatry, but it does happen.

I don't think you quite caught my drift. The woman actually *is* pregnant, but she’s exhibiting symptoms way too early. My question is: how do you even begin to treat someone in that situation? And more importantly, how do you go about diagnosing psychosis in the first place?

I see.
In that case, medical clearance should be the priority to rule out physical pathology first. If her mental state continues to deteriorate, then a psychiatrist must step in to provide an actual diagnosis and treatment plan.
There are numerous variables at play here. It is essential to consider her baseline functioning prior to pregnancy; I assume there were existing psychological deviations... therefore, external clinical data is vital.
Rebecca Scott3 Rebecca Scott3 Active Member
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Alex Thomas27 said:
So, she's either delusional or experiencing psychosis. Pseudocyesis—phantom pregnancies—isn't exactly common in psychiatry, but it does happen.

I don't think you quite caught my drift. The woman actually *is* pregnant, but she’s exhibiting symptoms way too early. My question is: how do you even begin to treat someone in that situation? And more importantly, how do you go about diagnosing psychosis in the first place?

Personally, I could feel I was pregnant just a week in... and that happened during two different pregnancies...
.... in one of them, I had this intense nervousness... nothing like I’d ever felt before... or anything since... it hit me just after a week... and I hadn't even suspected a thing... suddenly, I just knew something was shifting inside my body... then, two weeks later when my period didn't show up, I was certain, and by three weeks, my breasts were getting really sensitive...

.... during my second pregnancy, I ran a bit of a fever—around 99 degrees—after just a few days... plus some nausea... one doctor told me right then and there that I was probably pregnant... and sure enough, I was...
so many women just know something is happening in their bodies almost immediately... maybe a few days in... they might not know exactly what it is, though... while others can tell it's a pregnancy right away...
...it isn't hysteria... or psychosis... it's just nature... you just have to listen... to yourself... and to everything around you...
Alex Thomas27 Alex Thomas27 MemberOP
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Rebecca Scott3 said:Personally, I could feel I was pregnant just a week in... and that happened during two different pregnancies...
.... in one of them, I had this intense nervousness... nothing like I’d ever felt before... or anything since... it hit me just after a week... and I hadn't even suspected a thing... suddenly, I just knew something was shifting inside my body... then, two weeks later when my period didn't show up, I was certain, and by three weeks, my breasts were getting really sensitive...

.... during my second pregnancy, I ran a bit of a fever—around 99 degrees—after just a few days... plus some nausea... one doctor told me right then and there that I was probably pregnant... and sure enough, I was...
so many women just know something is happening in their bodies almost immediately... maybe a few days in... they might not know exactly what it is, though... while others can tell it's a pregnancy right away...
...it isn't hysteria... or psychosis... it's just nature... you just have to listen... to yourself... and to everything around you...

Symptoms show up about a week after conception. Anyone claiming to feel symptoms on the actual day of conception shouldn't be feeling them at all. Honestly, I'd suggest those women look into some medical literature or see a specialist, because they are either:
A) Psychotic
B) Uninformed. If they realized symptoms actually take a week to kick in, they might actually celebrate their baby's "conception anniversary" on the right date. Otherwise, they'll be celebrating a week late.
Sandra Morgan2 Sandra Morgan2 Active Member
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Alex Thomas27 said:Symptoms show up about a week after conception. Anyone claiming to feel symptoms on the actual day of conception shouldn't be feeling them at all. Honestly, I'd suggest those women look into some medical literature or see a specialist, because they are either:
A) Psychotic
B) Uninformed. If they realized symptoms actually take a week to kick in, they might actually celebrate their baby's "conception anniversary" on the right date. Otherwise, they'll be celebrating a week late.

But the woman said she knew within just a few days... Plenty of women realize they're pregnant very quickly. Implantation can happen anywhere from 6 to 12 days after ovulation, and hCG starts secreting immediately, climbing steadily until weeks 10-12.

HCG levels double every 48 hours, and implantation itself—around day 6—can even cause light spotting. It's entirely possible that a sensitive woman who is truly in tune with her body might sense early pregnancy symptoms immediately, simply because the hormonal landscape shifts so rapidly right after implantation.

Just because a test can't detect a tiny spike in hCG at the very start doesn't mean the body isn't sending signals. Someone deeply connected to their physical self might feel that subtle shift indicating pregnancy.

And don't even get me started on female intuition... A friend of mine woke her husband up in the middle of the night, hit him with a level of passion she'd never felt before, and then just rolled over and fell fast asleep thinking, "I'm pregnant." And she was... it was exactly like that.
Alex Thomas27 Alex Thomas27 MemberOP
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#10 ·
Sandra Morgan2
1)I honestly thought it happened a week after fertilization. My bad.
2)Your friend hit the jackpot. It’s almost like the fertilized egg—which she didn't even feel—didn't even have to bother implanting in the uterine wall.
Sandra Morgan2 Sandra Morgan2 Active Member
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#11 ·
Alex Thomas27 said:Sandra Morgan2
1)I honestly thought it happened a week after fertilization. My bad.
2)Your friend hit the jackpot. It’s almost like the fertilized egg—which she didn't even feel—didn't even have to bother implanting in the uterine wall.

1. No hard feelings, Alex Thomas27 🙂. While feeling symptoms as early as 6 or 7 days is definitely rare, it does happen to some women.

2. To be clear, my friend didn't feel anything physical. The meeting of the sperm and the egg isn't instantaneous; those swimmers have to make their way up to the fallopian tubes first, which can take hours or even a couple of days. She just knew on a completely different level that *that* specific moment was the one that would lead to a baby... it was this instant, intuitive flash of what was coming next. And intuition, by its very nature, is knowing something 100% without having any clue how you know it.
Alex Thomas27 Alex Thomas27 MemberOP
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Sandra Morgan2 said:1. No hard feelings, Alex Thomas27 🙂. While feeling symptoms as early as 6 or 7 days is definitely rare, it does happen to some women.

2. To be clear, my friend didn't feel anything physical. The meeting of the sperm and the egg isn't instantaneous; those swimmers have to make their way up to the fallopian tubes first, which can take hours or even a couple of days. She just knew on a completely different level that *that* specific moment was the one that would lead to a baby... it was this instant, intuitive flash of what was coming next. And intuition, by its very nature, is knowing something 100% without having any clue how you know it.

Intuition sounds like something straight out of an astrology book or a magic show.
Personally, I’d say she was just losing her grip on reality. The one saving grace is that she actually did end up pregnant, but let's be real—that's just pure luck. She had incredible luck, not "intuition."
Sandra Morgan2 Sandra Morgan2 Active Member
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Alex Thomas27 said:Intuition sounds like something straight out of an astrology book or a magic show.
Personally, I’d say she was just losing her grip on reality. The one saving grace is that she actually did end up pregnant, but let's be real—that's just pure luck. She had incredible luck, not "intuition."

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Alex, don't jump to conclusions. Before you categorize something when you clearly know nothing about it, do your homework.

"Intuition is perception via the unconscious"
Jung Quote


I’d say she was schizo—basically losing her grip on reality. The one saving grace is that she actually was pregnant, but even then, that just means she got incredibly lucky. She had luck, not intuition.

In your last post, you called a woman psychotic just for feeling early pregnancy symptoms a few days after conception. Now, you're labeling intuitive insight as schizophrenia and a break from reality. That says everything about you and absolutely nothing about sensitive, intuitive women.
Alex Thomas27 Alex Thomas27 MemberOP
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#14 ·
The thing is, you just can't know everything right away. A week out? Everything feels fine and balanced...
But give it a few more days, and suddenly you're hit with this intense, overwhelming urge to have a baby. You might spiral into an obsession, feel totally off-kilter, or face the crushing weight of a miscarriage—especially when you mix extreme stress and emotional instability with a cocktail of hormones that feel like a literal hurricane. Throw in sky-high expectations, and things can get pretty hysterical...

Let's look at fertilization as our starting point here, not implantation.
Sandra Morgan2 Sandra Morgan2 Active Member
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Alex Thomas27 said:The thing is, you just can't know everything right away. A week out? Everything feels fine and balanced...
But give it a few more days, and suddenly you're hit with this intense, overwhelming urge to have a baby. You might spiral into an obsession, feel totally off-kilter, or face the crushing weight of a miscarriage—especially when you mix extreme stress and emotional instability with a cocktail of hormones that feel like a literal hurricane. Throw in sky-high expectations, and things can get pretty hysterical...

Let's look at fertilization as our starting point here, not implantation.

My point is that some women can feel those pregnancy symptoms incredibly early, while others just sense it intuitively.

And obviously, because of that desperate longing (or even the fear of getting pregnant), some women might imagine it. They can actually manifest physical symptoms as if they were pregnant. In extreme cases, you're looking at a phantom pregnancy, which is a psychological condition.

You can't rule out the fact that some women truly believe they know they're pregnant very early on, simply because they've convinced themselves they are when they aren't.
Alex Thomas27 Alex Thomas27 MemberOP
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#16 ·
You can't rule out the idea that women actually know they're pregnant very early on just because some of them imagine it when they aren't.

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if some women just get lucky with a guess!
If you aren't following the science here, once the sperm meets the egg, it takes at least a week before the body even realizes what happened. Implantation is the key. That’s when the fertilized egg actually attaches to the uterine wall. Only then does the body get the memo that pregnancy has occurred. The body isn't magically aware two minutes after conception. There’s no feedback loop. No implantation, no signal.
Samuel Sullivan3 Samuel Sullivan3 Newcomer
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#17 ·
they just thought too highly of themselves....
Sandra Morgan2 Sandra Morgan2 Active Member
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#18 ·
Alex Thomas27 said:
You can't rule out the idea that women actually know they're pregnant very early on just because some of them imagine it when they aren't.

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if some women just get lucky with a guess!
If you aren't following the science here, once the sperm meets the egg, it takes at least a week before the body even realizes what happened. Implantation is the key. That’s when the fertilized egg actually attaches to the uterine wall. Only then does the body get the memo that pregnancy has occurred. The body isn't magically aware two minutes after conception. There’s no feedback loop. No implantation, no signal.

That's just because you probably aren't in tune with your own body or your intuition.

If you don't get it—it takes at least a week after sperm meets egg before the body feels IMPLANTATION. IMPLANTATION happens when the egg attaches to the uterine wall. That's the moment the body knows pregnancy has occurred. The body doesn't know about a pregnancy two minutes after fertilization. There is no feedback! No IMPLANTATION.

Yeah... and... you're just repeating what I told you... whatever...

Back to the topic.

Pseudocyesis—false pregnancy—happens when a woman wants a child so intensely that she truly believes she is pregnant. Since the brain genuinely struggles to distinguish deep conviction from reality, it triggers all the symptoms: missed periods, nausea, vomiting, abdominal swelling, and even lactation, cervical softening, and actual labor...

Another cause for false pregnancy is depression, which can trigger changes in the pituitary gland, leading to hormonal imbalances that mimic pregnancy.

It most commonly occurs in women who have survived incest or those who have suffered a miscarriage. Very often, all the symptoms vanish once the woman sees an ultrasound, but since the underlying issue is a medical mental health condition, treatment is necessary because a false pregnancy can recur.
Alex Thomas27 Alex Thomas27 MemberOP
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#19 ·
Sandra Morgan2, didn't you mention your friend "knew" just two minutes after sex? Honestly, that sounds pretty ridiculous to me—total shot in the dark if you ask me. Plus, Scarlett Johansson thinks those kinds of situations definitely need a follow-up check.
Sandra Morgan2 Sandra Morgan2 Active Member
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Alex Thomas27 said:Sandra Morgan2, didn't you mention your friend "knew" just two minutes after sex? Honestly, that sounds pretty ridiculous to me—total shot in the dark if you ask me. Plus, Scarlett Johansson thinks those kinds of situations definitely need a follow-up check.

Of course it sounds ridiculous to you! That's because you clearly don't understand what intuition actually is. To you, some vague gut feeling must be tied to astrology or something. Since intuition is actually a legitimate field of psychological study—and since you seem interested in it—maybe try doing some actual research before jumping to conclusions. Otherwise, you're just being as silly as you think I am.

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