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2012 Housing Loan Subsidies (Associated Press)

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Dennis Morales3 Dennis Morales3 MemberOP
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#1 ·
Is the government planning to keep up with the housing loan subsidies through the Associated Press for the upcoming 2012 calendar year? Does anyone know when the funding for the 2012 credit cycle will actually be approved?
Should I go ahead and sign the purchase agreement for an apartment now and just pray that the state approves the funds for 2012?
Lawrence Cruz Lawrence Cruz Active Member
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#2 ·
Hold on—are you seriously suggesting signing a purchase agreement today if the mortgage won't actually close until 2012?
Gerald Palmer66 Gerald Palmer66 Active Member
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#3 ·
Dennis Morales3 said:Is the government planning to keep up with the housing loan subsidies through the Associated Press for the upcoming 2012 calendar year? Does anyone know when the funding for the 2012 credit cycle will actually be approved?
Should I go ahead and sign the purchase agreement for an apartment now and just pray that the state approves the funds for 2012?


No.
Dennis Morales3 Dennis Morales3 MemberOP
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Lawrence Cruz said:Hold on—are you seriously suggesting signing a purchase agreement today if the mortgage won't actually close until 2012?

What I mean is, I intend to sign the preliminary contract for an apartment slated for completion by the end of this year, with the goal of finalizing the mortgage early next year. My hope is that the Department of Housing will approve the housing subsidies in 2012.
Dennis Morales3 Dennis Morales3 MemberOP
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Gerald Palmer66 said:No.

Why exactly?
Lawrence Cruz Lawrence Cruz Active Member
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#6 ·
If you’re looking at buying an apartment based on the APN program, honestly—you might want to reconsider. It feels like a classic rookie move by politicians right before an election. Let's be real: the government isn't sitting on a mountain of cash—they're borrowing from everywhere they can—so handing out these subsidies is a bit optimistic, to say the least.
rustywalker82 rustywalker82 Active Member
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#7 ·
...and they’ll end up paying for all those various taxes and fees just by selling their new place.
It isn't even a question of whether they'll release the funds from 2012; it's more about when they actually pull the trigger on releasing them (whether they wait until January or vote to push it through earlier).

I think drafting a preliminary agreement right now is fine, provided the seller agrees to a clause that lets the buyer back out without any penalties if certain pre-agreed circumstances pop up. (For instance, something tied specifically to the Associated Press).
Dennis Morales3 Dennis Morales3 MemberOP
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Lawrence Cruz said:If you’re looking at buying an apartment based on the APN program, honestly—you might want to reconsider. It feels like a classic rookie move by politicians right before an election. Let's be real: the government isn't sitting on a mountain of cash—they're borrowing from everywhere they can—so handing out these subsidies is a bit optimistic, to say the least.

There is definitely some truth to that... the reality is that this subsidy law did jumpstart sales and made it easier for young people to get into the market, even if the big winners were mostly the developers.

I’ve finally found a place that fits what I need, but without that federal assistance, there is absolutely no way I could afford it. Still, I can't help but worry about how much things might shift once the elections are over... I am truly torn right now on whether to take the risk or walk away. 😢
Dennis Morales3 Dennis Morales3 MemberOP
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rustywalker82 said:...and they’ll end up paying for all those various taxes and fees just by selling their new place.
It isn't even a question of whether they'll release the funds from 2012; it's more about when they actually pull the trigger on releasing them (whether they wait until January or vote to push it through earlier).

I think drafting a preliminary agreement right now is fine, provided the seller agrees to a clause that lets the buyer back out without any penalties if certain pre-agreed circumstances pop up. (For instance, something tied specifically to the Associated Press).

That is exactly what I am trying to figure out—if and when they will actually deploy those funds. That is the most critical factor here.
And if I were looking at this from the seller's perspective, I wouldn't include that kind of clause in the contract under any circumstances. 😢
rustywalker82 rustywalker82 Active Member
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#10 ·
You might run into some seller who’s desperate for quick cash—like they need an immediate down payment just to stay afloat. Then you've got the buyer side needing ironclad guarantees on that deposit, and suddenly you're dealing with all sorts of legal headaches and complications.

Basically, what you're asking is a question for the government (Bačić).
shadowdrifter48 shadowdrifter48 Newcomer
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Dennis Morales3 said:That is exactly what I am trying to figure out—if and when they will actually deploy those funds. That is the most critical factor here.
And if I were looking at this from the seller's perspective, I wouldn't include that kind of clause in the contract under any circumstances. 😢

In my preliminary agreement, it stated that if I backed out of the purchase for any reason, the seller would only return my deposit after they sold the property to someone else. There were no additional penalties involved. So, it really comes down to how much is required upfront. That arrangement worked fine for me, as they were waiting on federal funding and the passing of legislation just as much as I was. Besides, the initial deposit I made upon signing the preliminary agreement was quite modest.
goldencrane15 goldencrane15 Member
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Dennis Morales3 said:Is the government planning to keep up with the housing loan subsidies through the Associated Press for the upcoming 2012 calendar year? Does anyone know when the funding for the 2012 credit cycle will actually be approved?
Should I go ahead and sign the purchase agreement for an apartment now and just pray that the state approves the funds for 2012?

Oh, absolutely. And once the government inevitably screws you over, you can always pivot to whining about Swiss Franc fluctuations and how you were forced into a predatory contract because that condo was "perfect." You'll act like you had no choice but to buy a unit under construction, completely ignoring the fact that there are thousands of finished, vacant apartments sitting empty right now.

It’s a brilliant move, really—buying a place you clearly can't afford without a handout right in the middle of an economic crisis that's only going to get worse after the elections.☕

Honestly, they should just rename this entire subforum from "Bank of America Loans and Insurance" to "Bank of America Loans and Idiots."
Dennis Morales3 Dennis Morales3 MemberOP
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goldencrane15 said:Oh, absolutely. And once the government inevitably screws you over, you can always pivot to whining about Swiss Franc fluctuations and how you were forced into a predatory contract because that condo was "perfect." You'll act like you had no choice but to buy a unit under construction, completely ignoring the fact that there are thousands of finished, vacant apartments sitting empty right now.

It’s a brilliant move, really—buying a place you clearly can't afford without a handout right in the middle of an economic crisis that's only going to get worse after the elections.☕

Honestly, they should just rename this entire subforum from "Bank of America Loans and Insurance" to "Bank of America Loans and Idiots."

Do you honestly believe that an ironic comment like that actually helped anyone?
Dennis Morales3 Dennis Morales3 MemberOP
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shadowdrifter48 said:In my preliminary agreement, it stated that if I backed out of the purchase for any reason, the seller would only return my deposit after they sold the property to someone else. There were no additional penalties involved. So, it really comes down to how much is required upfront. That arrangement worked fine for me, as they were waiting on federal funding and the passing of legislation just as much as I was. Besides, the initial deposit I made upon signing the preliminary agreement was quite modest.

I’m going to try to negotiate something similar in my pre-contract with the seller... The only complication is that I requested several specific renovations to the unit. That makes things tricky; if I don't end up buying it, those modifications might not be appealing to the next buyer. 😢 On the flip side, I am willing to forfeit a small portion of the deposit just to get them to work with me.

We shall see. I sent an inquiry to the Department of Housing today to see if they have any updates on when the funds will be approved and transferred. I'll wait to hear what they say... if they even respond. 🙂
James Rogers53 James Rogers53 Active Member
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#15 ·
Maybe just wait until after the election is over and see how things actually shake out?

Counting on something that was clearly just an election-year stunt feels a bit too optimistic, I guess.
silentdriver5 silentdriver5 Member
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#16 ·
Greetings, everyone 🙂

I'm trying to avoid starting an entirely new thread here...
I find myself with a question regarding the Associated Press and mortgage lending programs—

In the event that a home loan is issued through a joint arrangement involving a bank and the Associated Press, am I correct in assuming there is no interest during the grace period? Is that the case?...

Thank you 👍
Dennis Morales3 Dennis Morales3 MemberOP
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James Rogers53 said:Maybe just wait until after the election is over and see how things actually shake out?

Counting on something that was clearly just an election-year stunt feels a bit too optimistic, I guess.

Now, sure, it could be a trick. But let’s be honest here—we aren't talking about "massive" sums of money that wouldn't be tied to the administration or the election results regardless of who wins...
Dennis Morales3 Dennis Morales3 MemberOP
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silentdriver5 said:Greetings, everyone 🙂

I'm trying to avoid starting an entirely new thread here...
I find myself with a question regarding the Associated Press and mortgage lending programs—

In the event that a home loan is issued through a joint arrangement involving a bank and the Associated Press, am I correct in assuming there is no interest during the grace period? Is that the case?...

Thank you 👍

Nothing.
Richard Wright Richard Wright Active Member
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#19 ·
Lawrence Cruz said:If you’re looking at buying an apartment based on the APN program, honestly—you might want to reconsider. It feels like a classic rookie move by politicians right before an election. Let's be real: the government isn't sitting on a mountain of cash—they're borrowing from everywhere they can—so handing out these subsidies is a bit optimistic, to say the least.

Look, $2 million isn't exactly a mountain of cash for the federal government. Maybe the subsidies aren't some massive national undertaking, but they'll burn through every cent before summer ends just so they can claim victory.
So far, they've already approved over 750 loans...
shadowdrifter48 shadowdrifter48 Newcomer
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#20 ·
silentdriver5 said:Greetings, everyone 🙂

I'm trying to avoid starting an entirely new thread here...
I find myself with a question regarding the Associated Press and mortgage lending programs—

In the event that a home loan is issued through a joint arrangement involving a bank and the Associated Press, am I correct in assuming there is no interest during the grace period? Is that the case?...

Thank you 👍

It likely varies by bank. While the maximum effective interest rate is set by law, whether they charge interest during the interim period or include things like appraisal fees depends on the specific institution.

I didn't have any in my case. 🤷

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