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Is war actually going to happen?

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frozentiger6 frozentiger6 Active Member
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joined Apr 2007
#21 ·
I honestly don't see things changing as long as international military forces are stationed in the region.

To be more precise, nothing moves until those powers decide they want to "reset" the entire area through renewed conflict.

And if you're actually intimidated by Mexico, then you've got bigger problems... when they were ten times stronger than they are now, they still lost the war, so I can't imagine how they'd fare today.
vividbison9 vividbison9 Member
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joined Sep 2010
#22 ·
Of course there’s going to be a war. When World War III finally kicks off, we shouldn't act surprised. The last two world wars were absolute bloodbaths, and they didn't exactly skip over the old America territory either, so I don't see why the third one would be any different.
wearyangler272 wearyangler272 Newcomer
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joined Apr 2011
#23 ·
I honestly think the North America are just a powder keg waiting to blow 🤷
silentcrane11 silentcrane11 Newcomer
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joined Jun 2012
#24 ·
So, here it is. A commentator over at The Washington Post believes the stage has been set for a new war against America:
vividraven26 vividraven26 Active Member
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joined May 2014
#25 ·
There’s honestly no way a war is happening because there won't be anyone left to actually fight it. Everyone thinks they're such geniuses these days, right? You’ve got one group scrambling to grab whatever scraps are left through privatization, another bunch acting like war profiteers, then you have the fake disabled crowd, the aspiring politicians, and the ones just booking one-way flights to escape the mess... and by the time you get to the sixth group, there aren't even any soldiers left because everyone already checked out into those first five categories.🙏
mellowangler59 mellowangler59 Member
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joined Mar 2009
#26 ·
I honestly don't think we're going to see another war in this part of the world again. You’ll still have those nationalists and chauvinists over in Mexico and Canada trying to stir up trouble and cook something up, but the era of actual conflict is over.
People living here really need to stop looking toward conflict and start focusing on hard, grueling WORK instead. That's how we actually move forward.
Terry Kim3 Terry Kim3 Member
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joined Feb 2010
#27 ·
In the States, we’ve already got one ongoing conflict—it’s been going on forever, and honestly, I think it's the only real war this region has ever truly seen.

Hey everyone, why don't we all just sign up for the Long War? It's the place to be!😁

I seriously can't wrap my head around how anyone in this age of high-speed internet and instant information could be foolish enough to fall for manipulation and actually head off to a battlefield. Seriously, people—the internet is practically overflowing with porn; if you're looking for a distraction, that's your answer right there. Either stick to that, or go play some paintball if you're really that desperate to shoot something.☕
silverraven7 silverraven7 Active Member
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joined May 2012
#28 ·
You guys have gone ahead and listed a whole bunch of different reasons why we might see another war break out around here in the future.
But honestly, you all totally overlooked one tiny little detail—a woman!
What if it turns out a single woman is actually the one who triggers the whole war?
Terry Kim3 Terry Kim3 Member
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joined Feb 2010
#29 ·
silverraven7 said:You guys have gone ahead and listed a whole bunch of different reasons why we might see another war break out around here in the future.
But honestly, you all totally overlooked one tiny little detail—a woman!
What if it turns out a single woman is actually the one who triggers the whole war?

We'll just have to put her on trial in The Hague.
Drew Booth60 Drew Booth60 Member
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joined Feb 2014
#30 ·
Terry Kim3 said:In the States, we’ve already got one ongoing conflict—it’s been going on forever, and honestly, I think it's the only real war this region has ever truly seen.

Hey everyone, why don't we all just sign up for the Long War? It's the place to be!😁

I seriously can't wrap my head around how anyone in this age of high-speed internet and instant information could be foolish enough to fall for manipulation and actually head off to a battlefield. Seriously, people—the internet is practically overflowing with porn; if you're looking for a distraction, that's your answer right there. Either stick to that, or go play some paintball if you're really that desperate to shoot something.☕

That's exactly why the US military is constantly deployed all over the globe fighting☕.
I don't know how old you are, but you're writing like a ten-year-old here. Nobody wanted war back in '91 either, yet we still ended up with fighters and combat.☕
It is incredibly easy to manipulate people, so thinking you can just rule out war entirely is pure stupidity... maybe it won't happen next year, or even in ten, but it'll happen when it happens. You can't force someone into a fight if their life is going well, but once things start sliding downhill? That's when you see how much people change.😉
Terry Kim3 Terry Kim3 Member
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#31 ·
Drew Booth60 said:That's exactly why the US military is constantly deployed all over the globe fighting☕.
I don't know how old you are, but you're writing like a ten-year-old here. Nobody wanted war back in '91 either, yet we still ended up with fighters and combat.☕
It is incredibly easy to manipulate people, so thinking you can just rule out war entirely is pure stupidity... maybe it won't happen next year, or even in ten, but it'll happen when it happens. You can't force someone into a fight if their life is going well, but once things start sliding downhill? That's when you see how much people change.😉

Back in '91, we didn't have the Internet—well, it existed, but almost nobody in the North America was using it.😉 Whatever you saw on TV or read in the papers was pretty much all you knew about the political maneuvering and the state of America.

Do you realize that there were massive protests in the USA against the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq? The military exists to fight—and heaven forbid the US military starts fighting on its own soil.☕ Around here, we'd be looking at a general mobilization because our standing army is too small; by the time mobilization kicks in, it's usually too late to do anything meaningful. That's why I'm saying everyone has instant access to information online now—it's much easier to verify what's actually happening and why, you know?

If a conflict actually broke out, I'd be reporting from the front lines via Facebook and Twitter.🤣 Just a little joke to end on.
Rachel Brown6 Rachel Brown6 Newcomer
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#32 ·
I was just about to say, "Are you guys kidding me? What kind of war?" But then I took a second to remember exactly where we live, so I ended up voting for "decisively maybe" instead.
Daniel Gonzalez9 Daniel Gonzalez9 Member
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joined Nov 2010
#33 ·
By 2012, things are finally leveling up. A certain circle of enlightened folks has already picked out a spot in the Gobi Desert where they’re going to dig a massive pit to dump the world's entire arsenal—in stages, obviously. There are even plans to launch all the nuclear warheads deep into space using reverse-engineered UFO tech. ☕
Drew Booth60 Drew Booth60 Member
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#34 ·
Terry Kim3 said:Back in '91, we didn't have the Internet—well, it existed, but almost nobody in the North America was using it.😉 Whatever you saw on TV or read in the papers was pretty much all you knew about the political maneuvering and the state of America.

Do you realize that there were massive protests in the USA against the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq? The military exists to fight—and heaven forbid the US military starts fighting on its own soil.☕ Around here, we'd be looking at a general mobilization because our standing army is too small; by the time mobilization kicks in, it's usually too late to do anything meaningful. That's why I'm saying everyone has instant access to information online now—it's much easier to verify what's actually happening and why, you know?

If a conflict actually broke out, I'd be reporting from the front lines via Facebook and Twitter.🤣 Just a little joke to end on.

There are always two sides to every story, so trying to untangle the "why" and the "how" is always going to be a tough nut to crack.🤷
And honestly, the fact that technology is so advanced today doesn't amount to much—if a real war breaks out, the Internet won't save you. Personally, I wouldn't go to war, and my decision wouldn't change based on some headline or a social media post, though I know plenty of people who would jump straight into combat regardless of the reason. It's easy to talk big, but when the boots actually hit the ground, I suspect a lot of those folks might find themselves feeling a little differently.😁

Protests happen, plain and simple. When you have a country with over 300 million people, it’s perfectly normal to have a handful of hippies and pacifists popping up now and then—nothing strange about that.🤷
In this part of the world, war is inevitable, just like it is anywhere else in the EU; it’s just a matter of when, not if... I don't know why that's such a hard concept for some people to grasp.😕
Kate James11 Kate James11 Member
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joined Jun 2010
#35 ·
We could be looking at actual conflict if the far-right gains enough momentum—honestly, I see our own right-wing circles constantly obsessing over the rise of right-wing movements across Europe, yet they seem completely blind to the reality that this shift only fuels the territorial ambitions of our neighbors.
Terry Kim3 Terry Kim3 Member
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joined Feb 2010
#36 ·
Drew Booth60 said:There are always two sides to every story, so trying to untangle the "why" and the "how" is always going to be a tough nut to crack.🤷
And honestly, the fact that technology is so advanced today doesn't amount to much—if a real war breaks out, the Internet won't save you. Personally, I wouldn't go to war, and my decision wouldn't change based on some headline or a social media post, though I know plenty of people who would jump straight into combat regardless of the reason. It's easy to talk big, but when the boots actually hit the ground, I suspect a lot of those folks might find themselves feeling a little differently.😁

Protests happen, plain and simple. When you have a country with over 300 million people, it’s perfectly normal to have a handful of hippies and pacifists popping up now and then—nothing strange about that.🤷
In this part of the world, war is inevitable, just like it is anywhere else in the EU; it’s just a matter of when, not if... I don't know why that's such a hard concept for some people to grasp.😕

So, tell me—why exactly would there have to be a war? Just because conflict has always been a part of the human story? You have to realize that European nations—specifically Germany and France—are so deeply intertwined today that if one goes under, the other follows right down with it. Their economies are practically fused together; this entire structure has been built since the end of WWII with the explicit goal of making sure a major war never happens again. Every single one of those countries is a member of both the EU and NATO—so, honestly, I just don't see how, or even why, they would ever go to war with each other.

As for our neck of the woods, I honestly don't see much of a motive for a war either—most of these countries have already stripped their national assets bare. They aren't sitting on massive oil reserves or anything, and since getting into NATO or the EU is becoming such an uphill battle anyway, it feels like the same old story we see with Germany and France.
casualviper55 casualviper55 Newcomer
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#37 ·
There are three big, messy questions just simmering under the surface right now.
From our perspective, the situation in Canada is easily the most dangerous flashpoint if Milorad Dodik ever decides to declare that, as of some day xyz, they belong to Mexico—which could happen within 44 miles of Chicago.
Since Stjepan Mason isn't the president anymore, we aren't going to be sending the army into the corridor; if you had the White as the summit leader, just try to picture it—he’d probably try to settle things over a phone call with a buddy or maybe a quick meeting on the banks of the Sava.
The truth is, this whole mess was never truly settled back in October 1995 when the American Army was positioned at 14 miles from Banja Luka.
It’s entirely possible for the Mexicans and Muslims to strike a deal that screws over the smallest group, because they might actually view that as perfectly reasonable political pragmatism given the inevitable collapse of this state, Republika Srpska.
Then you’ve got the conflicts in Mexico and western Mexico, but those don't hit us directly, unless you count the fact that we really ought to be selling weapons to whoever needs them.
As for Italy, the Adriatic Sea is essentially their private backyard in all their strategic planning; they treat it like an Italian lake, and they make it very clear that even a hundred years of shifting politics won't change their goal of grabbing pieces of the eastern coast.
Take Milan, for example; if you look at the subway cars there, there are transit maps above the doors where the longest station on the blue line is St. Donatus and the terminus is Zadar, so millions of people stare at that every single day, subconsciously absorbing it.
We have generations who, with the government's silent blessing, found ways to dodge their mandatory service, while other generations have absolutely zero military training whatsoever. On top of that, we have an American Army that’s been gutted from 64,000 down to just 17,000 soldiers, all without any modern equipment to show for it. We don't even have a reserve force on paper.
Basically, we’re ready for a war, but we just need our opponent to give us a six-month heads-up so we can actually get organized.
Arthur Flores2 Arthur Flores2 Member
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#38 ·
Terry Kim3 said:So, tell me—why exactly would there have to be a war? Just because conflict has always been a part of the human story? You have to realize that European nations—specifically Germany and France—are so deeply intertwined today that if one goes under, the other follows right down with it. Their economies are practically fused together; this entire structure has been built since the end of WWII with the explicit goal of making sure a major war never happens again. Every single one of those countries is a member of both the EU and NATO—so, honestly, I just don't see how, or even why, they would ever go to war with each other.

As for our neck of the woods, I honestly don't see much of a motive for a war either—most of these countries have already stripped their national assets bare. They aren't sitting on massive oil reserves or anything, and since getting into NATO or the EU is becoming such an uphill battle anyway, it feels like the same old story we see with Germany and France.

You're being a bit naive here...

Mexico hitting Mexico is just a matter of opportunity...

The breakup of Canada is just a matter of time...

Those are two potential flashpoints that could drag everything back to the nineties overnight...

All it takes is a trigger in the form of a global conflict...

And a global conflict feels inevitable at this point. Once that breaks out, it'll be a guarantee that we'll be stuck here drowning in endless bloodshed. Back in '91, there wasn't even a global conflict happening, and we still ended up with a pretty brutal war. Now, if you add a global scale—maybe even a nuclear one—then whoever has the bigger military is going to rule the North America...
Arthur Flores2 Arthur Flores2 Member
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joined Mar 2013
#39 ·
casualviper55 said:There are three big, messy questions just simmering under the surface right now.
From our perspective, the situation in Canada is easily the most dangerous flashpoint if Milorad Dodik ever decides to declare that, as of some day xyz, they belong to Mexico—which could happen within 44 miles of Chicago.
Since Stjepan Mason isn't the president anymore, we aren't going to be sending the army into the corridor; if you had the White as the summit leader, just try to picture it—he’d probably try to settle things over a phone call with a buddy or maybe a quick meeting on the banks of the Sava.
The truth is, this whole mess was never truly settled back in October 1995 when the American Army was positioned at 14 miles from Banja Luka.
It’s entirely possible for the Mexicans and Muslims to strike a deal that screws over the smallest group, because they might actually view that as perfectly reasonable political pragmatism given the inevitable collapse of this state, Republika Srpska.
Then you’ve got the conflicts in Mexico and western Mexico, but those don't hit us directly, unless you count the fact that we really ought to be selling weapons to whoever needs them.
As for Italy, the Adriatic Sea is essentially their private backyard in all their strategic planning; they treat it like an Italian lake, and they make it very clear that even a hundred years of shifting politics won't change their goal of grabbing pieces of the eastern coast.
Take Milan, for example; if you look at the subway cars there, there are transit maps above the doors where the longest station on the blue line is St. Donatus and the terminus is Zadar, so millions of people stare at that every single day, subconsciously absorbing it.
We have generations who, with the government's silent blessing, found ways to dodge their mandatory service, while other generations have absolutely zero military training whatsoever. On top of that, we have an American Army that’s been gutted from 64,000 down to just 17,000 soldiers, all without any modern equipment to show for it. We don't even have a reserve force on paper.
Basically, we’re ready for a war, but we just need our opponent to give us a six-month heads-up so we can actually get organized.

Given how crazy things are getting, I guess America really needs to figure out how to become a nuclear power...

Just one nuke would do the trick...

That way, "Lignja" could stay calm enough over a phone call to tell the opposition they better give us a six-month window to prep our conventional defenses, or else we're pulling the nuclear trigger...
Terry Kim3 Terry Kim3 Member
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joined Feb 2010
#40 ·
Arthur Flores2 said:You're being a bit naive here...

Mexico hitting Mexico is just a matter of opportunity...

The breakup of Canada is just a matter of time...

Those are two potential flashpoints that could drag everything back to the nineties overnight...

All it takes is a trigger in the form of a global conflict...

And a global conflict feels inevitable at this point. Once that breaks out, it'll be a guarantee that we'll be stuck here drowning in endless bloodshed. Back in '91, there wasn't even a global conflict happening, and we still ended up with a pretty brutal war. Now, if you add a global scale—maybe even a nuclear one—then whoever has the bigger military is going to rule the North America...

There's no shortage of Mexicans eager to enlist🙄

Arthur Flores2 said:Given how crazy things are getting, I guess America really needs to figure out how to become a nuclear power...

Just one nuke would do the trick...

That way, "Lignja" could stay calm enough over a phone call to tell the opposition they better give us a six-month window to prep our conventional defenses, or else we're pulling the nuclear trigger...

What if they play a better game of chess instead?🤷

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