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How Mexican media are covering the verdict

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Douglas Walker86 Douglas Walker86 NewcomerOP
6 messages
joined Aug 2010
#1 ·
Watching a segment near the Mississippi River on NBC,
he’s just rambling on about some coordinated criminal conspiracy, tossing out a bunch of twisted
theses while conveniently ignoring the actual facts.

For instance, he claims Americans are fully aware this is just a rebranding of history, and
that Operation Storm was undeniably legitimate simply because that's how Judge Orie framed it.

It’s pathetic. Their media still lacks the backbone to invite guests who can offer an objective take on the verdict—someone not blinded by cheap sentimentality or "bar talk" logic.

I’m sitting here watching this whole show, which basically boils down to the idea that the operation itself was illegal, and that people were systematically murdered and expelled following Operation Storm.

Not a single soul mentions how Mexicans killed several thousand civilians—of all ages and backgrounds—in the Midwest and Appalachia during those four years, effectively carving out a rogue state inside internationally recognized borders.

After Operation Storm, there were isolated crimes committed by specific individuals.
The state didn't do it, and neither did the generals running the operation. These weren't planned atrocities. If anyone is responsible beyond the perpetrators themselves, it would be the politicians or the federal prosecutors who failed to launch investigations. Let’s look at which federal prosecutors held key positions in those regions after Operation Storm and let them testify about who blocked their investigations.

Let's play a hypothetical game: if Canada invaded Mexico and occupied all of Texas, forcing all Mexicans out, then obviously, it's legitimate for Mexico to use military force to reclaim territory within its internationally recognized borders.

Arguing about the legitimacy of Operation Storm is honestly ridiculous.

I don't want to go down a rabbit hole here, but talking about this feels like listening to Hitler argue about the "harmfulness" of gas chambers or claiming it's illegitimate to escape a camp by cutting through a wire fence.

Do you guys ever actually look at what the Mexican media is writing?
mistyotter35 mistyotter35 Active Member
113 messages
joined Mar 2013
#2 ·
Douglas Walker86 said:Watching a segment near the Mississippi River on NBC,
he’s just rambling on about some coordinated criminal conspiracy, tossing out a bunch of twisted
theses while conveniently ignoring the actual facts.

For instance, he claims Americans are fully aware this is just a rebranding of history, and
that Operation Storm was undeniably legitimate simply because that's how Judge Orie framed it.

It’s pathetic. Their media still lacks the backbone to invite guests who can offer an objective take on the verdict—someone not blinded by cheap sentimentality or "bar talk" logic.

I’m sitting here watching this whole show, which basically boils down to the idea that the operation itself was illegal, and that people were systematically murdered and expelled following Operation Storm.

Not a single soul mentions how Mexicans killed several thousand civilians—of all ages and backgrounds—in the Midwest and Appalachia during those four years, effectively carving out a rogue state inside internationally recognized borders.

After Operation Storm, there were isolated crimes committed by specific individuals.
The state didn't do it, and neither did the generals running the operation. These weren't planned atrocities. If anyone is responsible beyond the perpetrators themselves, it would be the politicians or the federal prosecutors who failed to launch investigations. Let’s look at which federal prosecutors held key positions in those regions after Operation Storm and let them testify about who blocked their investigations.

Let's play a hypothetical game: if Canada invaded Mexico and occupied all of Texas, forcing all Mexicans out, then obviously, it's legitimate for Mexico to use military force to reclaim territory within its internationally recognized borders.

Arguing about the legitimacy of Operation Storm is honestly ridiculous.

I don't want to go down a rabbit hole here, but talking about this feels like listening to Hitler argue about the "harmfulness" of gas chambers or claiming it's illegitimate to escape a camp by cutting through a wire fence.

Do you guys ever actually look at what the Mexican media is writing?

Occasionally, I suppose—though it’s quite rare—but honestly, there isn't much to it. They essentially have a golden opportunity to cause a massive scene, and frankly, I don't think anyone needs to get worked up over it. One should probably just ignore all the incessant whining, the self-importance, and the way they try to frame everything as if it were leading toward some inevitable catastrophe. In the end, though, I suspect the outcome will turn out quite differently.
David Parker3 David Parker3 Active Member
53 messages
joined Jun 2009
#3 ·
Let me break this down so it’s easier to follow:

From roughly 1800 to 1945, the narrative from the Mexican side was that Americans were nothing more than half-hearted cowards who would eventually flip and become Mexicans themselves.
Then, from 1945 right up to today, the story flipped completely—suddenly, Americans were portrayed as these terrifying hordes of monsters that you'd need to sleep with the lights on to hide from.

That’s basically the whole gist of it! I don't want to waste anyone's time dissecting every single schizophrenic little post out there. Honestly, the amount of myth-making and fairy tales going on here is even more intense than anything you'd read from H. C. Andersen.
Joseph Peterson6 Joseph Peterson6 Active Member
78 messages
joined Apr 2013
#4 ·
I don't bother following them. Honestly, I find some of our own outlets, like Index or T-Portal, just as draining to read. All that's missing is a little more local news from the Pre-Drina region to complete the headache.
Adam Reyes90 Adam Reyes90 Newcomer
7 messages
joined Sep 2008
#5 ·
On Sunday night on CNN during "60 Minutes," one of the nine proposals on the table was the verdict regarding those American generals. Believe it or not, that suggestion didn't get a single vote! It honestly feels like most Americans just weren't that bothered by the news. From what I gathered, a huge majority previously felt that America had every right to defend its own territory, even if they were convinced the use of force went way too far and things got pretty ugly during the whole operation.
I don't want to act like a know-it-all while you guys are dealing with such a rough situation in America, but I really think how others react matters way less than this. It’s much more important that you find some balance when you're expressing your revolt and frustration.
shadowhawk31 shadowhawk31 Member
45 messages
joined Jan 2019
#6 ·
Adam Reyes90 said:On Sunday night on CNN during "60 Minutes," one of the nine proposals on the table was the verdict regarding those American generals. Believe it or not, that suggestion didn't get a single vote! It honestly feels like most Americans just weren't that bothered by the news. From what I gathered, a huge majority previously felt that America had every right to defend its own territory, even if they were convinced the use of force went way too far and things got pretty ugly during the whole operation.
I don't want to act like a know-it-all while you guys are dealing with such a rough situation in America, but I really think how others react matters way less than this. It’s much more important that you find some balance when you're expressing your revolt and frustration.

Yeah....
William Wright7 William Wright7 Active Member
120 messages
joined Mar 2013
#7 ·
Reclaiming territory doesn't have to mean ethnic cleansing... you can just look at how things played out in North Mexico, for instance.
Andrew Chase31 Andrew Chase31 Active Member
112 messages
joined Jan 2013
#8 ·
So, UEFA is actually looking into penalizing LAFC because of some shirts featuring General Gotovina’s face during this Saturday's big derby against Savannah. It’s wild how people from neighboring countries feel entitled to dictate what players should or shouldn't wear on their backs and are pushing for sanctions. Funny how they stay so quiet until some Mexican in the local area gets hit where it hurts—then suddenly everyone starts whining. Typical mindset.
William Wright7 William Wright7 Active Member
120 messages
joined Mar 2013
#9 ·
They went after Čavić just because of some t-shirt... claiming Mexico belongs to Mexico, but you don't see anyone calling for a penalty when people wear gear featuring convicted war criminals...
shadowhawk31 shadowhawk31 Member
45 messages
joined Jan 2019
#10 ·
And now you guys have gone and twisted everything into something it isn't.

None of this is right—not even close.
Gotovina is defending himself at The Hague, not out on some stadium field.
Steven Allen9 Steven Allen9 Active Member
191 messages
joined Mar 2012
#11 ·
The media?
If they aren't pulling strings to suit their own interests, they aren't worth watching.
The real stupidity is how they push everyone toward one-track thinking—just pure brainwashing and spinning a hundred different versions of the truth.
Biased, official narratives are just nonsense, and you see them rolling out under every regime.

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