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Protests against Islamists in Lebanon

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Participants Samuel Roberts4rustyfalcon38Angela LeeRobert Johnson18Jonathan Bishop3Austin Grant9Richard Wilson4Jamie Kim3Daniel Garcia24Jeremy Harris21Linda Howard4gentleranger10Henry Cox78Jose Martin13
Samuel Roberts4 Samuel Roberts4 NewcomerOP
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Hundreds of thousands of Lebanese people have taken to the streets to protest against the Islamist dictatorship of Hezbollah, condemning the killings and persecution they face.
Tomorrow marks the sixth anniversary of the so-called Cedar Revolution, an event widely viewed as the beginning of the end for the decades-long Syrian occupation of Lebanon.

If you haven't heard much about these events, don't be surprised. The reality is that neither the religious factions nor the leftists could bring themselves to frame Jews as the culprits, so they simply refuse to tell the story.

http://www.naharnet.com/domino/tn/Ne...25785200386F83
rustyfalcon38 rustyfalcon38 Newcomer
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We could easily see an Egyptian-style scenario playing out here—only instead of Copts, we’d be looking at Maronites, whose numbers are already dwindling thanks to the sheer volatility of radical Islamists. It wouldn't take long to find someone to pin the blame on, would it?
Angela Lee Angela Lee Member
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To be honest, I find myself wondering how Christians and people in Lebanon manage to stay so calm and indifferent despite everything with those Islamists. What are they waiting for? Are they just planning to shrink their presence down to almost nothing, or will they eventually take action to secure independence, much like what happened in South Sudan? It seems to me—though I could be wrong—that Christianity and Islam simply can't coexist. It feels like an unavoidable reality.
Robert Johnson18 Robert Johnson18 Newcomer
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Angela Lee said:To be honest, I find myself wondering how Christians and people in Lebanon manage to stay so calm and indifferent despite everything with those Islamists. What are they waiting for? Are they just planning to shrink their presence down to almost nothing, or will they eventually take action to secure independence, much like what happened in South Sudan? It seems to me—though I could be wrong—that Christianity and Islam simply can't coexist. It feels like an unavoidable reality.

They already tried it with the SLA and suffered a brutal military defeat at the hands of the best fighting force out there... Hezbollah. Now, Christians are pinned down in the north and cut off from their potential ally, Israel.
Caught in a pincer between Hezbollah and Syria, they should be lucky if they can just elect a president—another colonial puppet, really. Otherwise, the only option left is moving to South America.
So, just shut up and deal with it. You've been defeated on every front, and you're down to 20% of what you used to be.
Jonathan Bishop3 Jonathan Bishop3 Newcomer
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Those Islamist dictatorships are basically just puppets for Hezbollah. It’s going to be a massive problem. Hezbollah is essentially the core 😁 when you look at where they actually come from regarding Islam—I mean that original, fundamentalist version.
Austin Grant9 Austin Grant9 Member
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Jonathan Bishop3 said:Those Islamist dictatorships are basically just puppets for Hezbollah. It’s going to be a massive problem. Hezbollah is essentially the core 😁 when you look at where they actually come from regarding Islam—I mean that original, fundamentalist version.

The intro writer messed up by saying 'against Hezbollah's weapons,'
but everything else was spot on.
Samuel Roberts4 Samuel Roberts4 NewcomerOP
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Jonathan Bishop3 said:Those Islamist dictatorships are basically just puppets for Hezbollah. It’s going to be a massive problem. Hezbollah is essentially the core 😁 when you look at where they actually come from regarding Islam—I mean that original, fundamentalist version.

To the developed world, it’s all exactly the same 😉brand of fundamentalism.
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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Lebanon needs to be split up. Let's turn Mount Rainier into a Christian state and let the rest of them—Sunnis, Shiites, Druze—fight it out amongst themselves. Honestly, I don't care.
Jonathan Bishop3 Jonathan Bishop3 Newcomer
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Richard Wilson4 said:Lebanon needs to be split up. Let's turn Mount Rainier into a Christian state and let the rest of them—Sunnis, Shiites, Druze—fight it out amongst themselves. Honestly, I don't care.

And you, Ero, you're actually asking for solutions? Please. For certain people over in the Middle East, any hope for a better tomorrow died the second the Arab world woke up and realized what was happening.
Jamie Kim3 Jamie Kim3 Newcomer
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#10 ·
And then there’s the idiots, too
Daniel Garcia24 Daniel Garcia24 Active Member
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Robert Johnson18 said:They already tried it with the SLA and suffered a brutal military defeat at the hands of the best fighting force out there... Hezbollah. Now, Christians are pinned down in the north and cut off from their potential ally, Israel.
Caught in a pincer between Hezbollah and Syria, they should be lucky if they can just elect a president—another colonial puppet, really. Otherwise, the only option left is moving to South America.
So, just shut up and deal with it. You've been defeated on every front, and you're down to 20% of what you used to be.

I think you're significantly underestimating how much weight Christians still carry in Lebanon. They hold 60 of the 120 seats in Parliament. Sure, things aren't quite what they were back in the early nineties, but they still maintain a massive amount of leverage within the country, especially when you consider how the ongoing friction between Sunnis and Shiites plays into their hands.
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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Daniel Garcia24 said:I think you're significantly underestimating how much weight Christians still carry in Lebanon. They hold 60 of the 120 seats in Parliament. Sure, things aren't quite what they were back in the early nineties, but they still maintain a massive amount of leverage within the country, especially when you consider how the ongoing friction between Sunnis and Shiites plays into their hands.

The Sunnis and Christians are basically allies in Lebanon.
Daniel Garcia24 Daniel Garcia24 Active Member
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Richard Wilson4 said:The Sunnis and Christians are basically allies in Lebanon.

I hear you... but it all feels incredibly precarious, especially when you consider how an Islamic mindset tends to prioritize religious conviction above everything else.
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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Daniel Garcia24 said:I hear you... but it all feels incredibly precarious, especially when you consider how an Islamic mindset tends to prioritize religious conviction above everything else.

But having their backs is a bigger reason for the alliance than anything else.

Sunni are terrified of the Shia, and honestly, they have every reason to be.
Jeremy Harris21 Jeremy Harris21 Member
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Richard Wilson4 said:Lebanon needs to be split up. Let's turn Mount Rainier into a Christian state and let the rest of them—Sunnis, Shiites, Druze—fight it out amongst themselves. Honestly, I don't care.

That won't work, considering Beirut is right there in the heart of Mount Lebanon.
Jeremy Harris21 Jeremy Harris21 Member
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Richard Wilson4 said:But having their backs is a bigger reason for the alliance than anything else.

Sunni are terrified of the Shia, and honestly, they have every reason to be.

And what exactly is that reason?
Linda Howard4 Linda Howard4 Newcomer
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Richard Wilson4 said:The Sunnis and Christians are basically allies in Lebanon.

Well, they certainly picked a hell of a partner to align with—the Sunnis, I assume.
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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Linda Howard4 said:Well, they certainly picked a hell of a partner to align with—the Sunnis, I assume.

Christians make up about 30% of the population but still hold 50% of the seats in Congress. They definitely hold their own in their neck of the woods.
Jeremy Harris21 Jeremy Harris21 Member
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Richard Wilson4 said:Christians make up about 30% of the population but still hold 50% of the seats in Congress. They definitely hold their own in their neck of the woods.

That’s the fundamental issue with Muslims—they tend to believe everything they're told and consistently overextend themselves, giving way far more than they ever should.
Thirty percent of people holding fifty percent of seats in Congress.
In a city like Pittsburgh, twenty percent Christians end up controlling fifty percent of the local government.

Just imagine if we were talking about a Christian land where Muslims suddenly grabbed fifty percent of the power; it wouldn't happen in a million years.
Or take a small town in the Midwest—you’ll never see them seizing fifty percent of the authority.

And yet, they still keep reaching for more.
Linda Howard4 Linda Howard4 Newcomer
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Jeremy Harris21 said:That’s the fundamental issue with Muslims—they tend to believe everything they're told and consistently overextend themselves, giving way far more than they ever should.
Thirty percent of people holding fifty percent of seats in Congress.
In a city like Pittsburgh, twenty percent Christians end up controlling fifty percent of the local government.

Just imagine if we were talking about a Christian land where Muslims suddenly grabbed fifty percent of the power; it wouldn't happen in a million years.
Or take a small town in the Midwest—you’ll never see them seizing fifty percent of the authority.

And yet, they still keep reaching for more.

On top of that, they are being systematically marginalized. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if the folks over in Lebanon started pushing for majoritarianism too. 😂

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