The Savior of Pope Francis and his ilk

Just caught him on the local news earlier.
My God, why is this getting so exhausting to watch and listen to?
And I’m only 29... how am I gonna handle this when I’m older?
Seems like this drunkard—just like every other politician out there—is terrified of any question
that actually mentions deadlines. What kind of leeches and deadbeats are we paying
who act this arrogant and useless regardless?
Some guy asks him straight up, "Alright, can you give us some actual timelines for the economic
recovery?" and then Pope Francis starts rambling about something else entirely without mentioning a single deadline. It’s enough to make you lose hope. I'm just disappointed, so I'm starting this
thread, even though it probably won't change a damn thing.
Obviously, move this if it doesn't belong here or kill it if it's pointless, but I didn't see a better spot.

I’m not trying to make excuses for any members of The Government, but let’s be real: it is Kosorica who has tied everyone's hands. By refusing to cut government spending, she has drastically stripped away the room to maneuver for anyone with actually effective ideas.

It’s easy for everyone to jump on Šuker/Dalićka whenever they ask for new funding, but the fact remains that they aren't magicians. Basic math still applies to them too, yet they end up carrying the weight for problems they didn't even create.

If actual cuts were implemented—if the Secretary of Commerce or the Secretary of the Treasury actually had resources at their disposal—then we could truly judge their competence. Until then, this is all just patching holes...

If I were running things, I’d probably just be doing more of the same. There isn't really any way to pull off some massive, earth-shattering change right now.

They brought in some new faces to the Government, they looked at how much cash they were missing to cover salaries and pensions, and within a week or two, they just took out another loan. You can't really accomplish anything else on such short notice.

Popijač is basically just living proof that the Government actually cares about businesses and stuff like that.

Just wait, the Democratic Party will eventually take over, and it’ll be the exact same playbook. The only difference might be if the government issues a decree forcing every single company to hire two more people.

Things might pick up a bit this summer—hopefully it'll be better than last year (since Egypt and Tunisia are out of the running for tourists...)—and after that, we'll likely head straight into elections.

The Republican Party is easily the most damaging force in this country. I’m not exaggerating—it’s just the reality we’re living. Just look at this latest example involving unemployment numbers and the Department of Labor . How is this kind of behavior even possible? Why didn't we see these kinds of political games back when the Democrats were in power through the coalition?
It's because instead of having a real professional in charge, they put in a political appointee like Jarallah.

...In a nation full of overqualified workers trying to make ends meet, you can easily wrap your head around the drama surrounding why the Department of Labor suddenly decided to pull back on releasing those key figures in their monthly report on the state of unemployment for January 2010.

Then again, maybe there's another angle. Maybe the head of the Department of Labor, Ankica paun Jarallah, was just trying to cover her own tracks. Back in late 2010, she failed to predict the actual numbers, despite telling the press earlier that "the situation is such that we expect 300,000 unemployed people to show up at the Agency by January or February." Even though she's supposedly a "math whiz," she missed the mark by about ten percent. She was already playing it safe a year ago when she claimed unemployment wouldn't hit alarming levels.

Maybe Ankica paun Jarallah was just doing what she does best as a manager of (dis)information: helping out the Republican Party. It's a pattern that goes back to the 2007 elections, when Ivo Sanders hired her as the Agency director just two months before the vote. She stepped in as acting director six months prior, and suddenly, unemployment dropped by 20,000.

She basically became "Employee of the Month" during her first month on the job by triggering a massive wave of statistical employment: right before the election, we found out 3,340 people had ended up at the unemployment office—that's 1.4% more than in August 2007—but they added a note saying unemployment was actually down by 32,826, or 11.8%, compared to September of the previous year. This gave Sanders the perfect setup for those flashy campaign ads where he looked like a hero to Americans working blue-collar jobs.

Her predecessor, the Republican Zrinka Blažević, was kicked out before her term ended during a closed-door Government meeting while she was actually on vacation, all under the guise of "poor business results." Sanja Crnković Pozaić was pushed out for the exact same reason three years earlier. During the Democratic Party's administration, she was diligent about reporting the disastrous employment numbers. When she was replaced, the rumor mill suggested the real reason was the removal of her relative, the big-shot Republican head of the local Employment Service, ognjen Crnković.

According to the Agency's own stats, he was running the one branch out of 22 that consistently had the worst results. Once the local Republican branch started struggling, Crnković Pozaić was ousted, and Crnković was immediately appointed as the acting head of the very branch he had just been removed from. Interestingly enough, Crnković even changed the locks on his office to keep his successor out!

Unlike the Republican Party, the coalition shouldn't have needed a political hack in a role like this. You need a PROFESSIONAL for this job. But in a mafia-style system, they always need "one of their own." It’s incredibly destructive, and honestly, it’s pretty much the only thing the Republican Party knows how to do.

That’s why they aren't all the same. The coalition wasn't nearly as damaging. It wasn't perfect, far from it, but it wasn't nearly as bad as the Republican Party.

Relax, kid, you’re gonna give yourself an ulcer before you even hit thirty.
They’re all cut from the same cloth.
None of those guys have ever actually done a damn thing for America.
It’s always just about lining their own pockets and looking out for their inner circle.

🙂

Paul Anderson2 said:If I were running things, I’d probably just be doing more of the same. There isn't really any way to pull off some massive, earth-shattering change right now.

They brought in some new faces to the Government, they looked at how much cash they were missing to cover salaries and pensions, and within a week or two, they just took out another loan. You can't really accomplish anything else on such short notice.

Popijač is basically just living proof that the Government actually cares about businesses and stuff like that.

Just wait, the Democratic Party will eventually take over, and it’ll be the exact same playbook. The only difference might be if the government issues a decree forcing every single company to hire two more people.

Things might pick up a bit this summer—hopefully it'll be better than last year (since Egypt and Tunisia are out of the running for tourists...)—and after that, we'll likely head straight into elections.

I don't doubt for a second that once the Democrats get back in power, nothing changes. It's the same playbook.
Man, this stuff pisses me off so much I could snap my keyboard in half...
Seriously, why do we keep rotating these two ancient, useless parties in and out of power? Is there really nobody else in this whole country?
It feels like this clueless nation (Z. Mamić copyright) needs to go through a few massive gut punches
from both the Democratic Party and the Republican Party before they finally start ignoring them at the polls...
The Republican Party seems totally spent, and I'm hoping the Democrats will follow suit in their next term—full of empty promises, vague statements, and deadlines that don't exist.
Basically, everything in the spirit of these two parties, just like how they've "worked" up until now.
Lies.

northerntiger said:The Republican Party is easily the most damaging force in this country. I’m not exaggerating—it’s just the reality we’re living. Just look at this latest example involving unemployment numbers and the Department of Labor . How is this kind of behavior even possible? Why didn't we see these kinds of political games back when the Democrats were in power through the coalition?
It's because instead of having a real professional in charge, they put in a political appointee like Jarallah.

...In a nation full of overqualified workers trying to make ends meet, you can easily wrap your head around the drama surrounding why the Department of Labor suddenly decided to pull back on releasing those key figures in their monthly report on the state of unemployment for January 2010.

Then again, maybe there's another angle. Maybe the head of the Department of Labor, Ankica paun Jarallah, was just trying to cover her own tracks. Back in late 2010, she failed to predict the actual numbers, despite telling the press earlier that "the situation is such that we expect 300,000 unemployed people to show up at the Agency by January or February." Even though she's supposedly a "math whiz," she missed the mark by about ten percent. She was already playing it safe a year ago when she claimed unemployment wouldn't hit alarming levels.

Maybe Ankica paun Jarallah was just doing what she does best as a manager of (dis)information: helping out the Republican Party. It's a pattern that goes back to the 2007 elections, when Ivo Sanders hired her as the Agency director just two months before the vote. She stepped in as acting director six months prior, and suddenly, unemployment dropped by 20,000.

She basically became "Employee of the Month" during her first month on the job by triggering a massive wave of statistical employment: right before the election, we found out 3,340 people had ended up at the unemployment office—that's 1.4% more than in August 2007—but they added a note saying unemployment was actually down by 32,826, or 11.8%, compared to September of the previous year. This gave Sanders the perfect setup for those flashy campaign ads where he looked like a hero to Americans working blue-collar jobs.

Her predecessor, the Republican Zrinka Blažević, was kicked out before her term ended during a closed-door Government meeting while she was actually on vacation, all under the guise of "poor business results." Sanja Crnković Pozaić was pushed out for the exact same reason three years earlier. During the Democratic Party's administration, she was diligent about reporting the disastrous employment numbers. When she was replaced, the rumor mill suggested the real reason was the removal of her relative, the big-shot Republican head of the local Employment Service, ognjen Crnković.

According to the Agency's own stats, he was running the one branch out of 22 that consistently had the worst results. Once the local Republican branch started struggling, Crnković Pozaić was ousted, and Crnković was immediately appointed as the acting head of the very branch he had just been removed from. Interestingly enough, Crnković even changed the locks on his office to keep his successor out!

Unlike the Republican Party, the coalition shouldn't have needed a political hack in a role like this. You need a PROFESSIONAL for this job. But in a mafia-style system, they always need "one of their own." It’s incredibly destructive, and honestly, it’s pretty much the only thing the Republican Party knows how to do.

That’s why they aren't all the same. The coalition wasn't nearly as damaging. It wasn't perfect, far from it, but it wasn't nearly as bad as the Republican Party.

Maybe.
I really hope you're right and that if they win the election, they’ll at least prove to be less of a wreck than the Republicans—which, let's be real, won't be hard given what those Republicans
have 'achieved' over the last few years.

The bottom line is that when Americans show up at the polls in droves, they aren't just swapping out one group for another. They're sending a loud and clear message to whoever takes over next: don't even dream about pulling the same stunts the previous administration did. It needs to be crystal clear to everyone in power that they answer to the voters every single day of their term, not just during election season. At the end of the day, everyone is smjenjiv.

northerntiger said:The Republican Party is easily the most damaging force in this country. I’m not exaggerating—it’s just the reality we’re living. Just look at this latest example involving unemployment numbers and the Department of Labor . How is this kind of behavior even possible? Why didn't we see these kinds of political games back when the Democrats were in power through the coalition?
It's because instead of having a real professional in charge, they put in a political appointee like Jarallah.

...In a nation full of overqualified workers trying to make ends meet, you can easily wrap your head around the drama surrounding why the Department of Labor suddenly decided to pull back on releasing those key figures in their monthly report on the state of unemployment for January 2010.

Then again, maybe there's another angle. Maybe the head of the Department of Labor, Ankica paun Jarallah, was just trying to cover her own tracks. Back in late 2010, she failed to predict the actual numbers, despite telling the press earlier that "the situation is such that we expect 300,000 unemployed people to show up at the Agency by January or February." Even though she's supposedly a "math whiz," she missed the mark by about ten percent. She was already playing it safe a year ago when she claimed unemployment wouldn't hit alarming levels.

Maybe Ankica paun Jarallah was just doing what she does best as a manager of (dis)information: helping out the Republican Party. It's a pattern that goes back to the 2007 elections, when Ivo Sanders hired her as the Agency director just two months before the vote. She stepped in as acting director six months prior, and suddenly, unemployment dropped by 20,000.

She basically became "Employee of the Month" during her first month on the job by triggering a massive wave of statistical employment: right before the election, we found out 3,340 people had ended up at the unemployment office—that's 1.4% more than in August 2007—but they added a note saying unemployment was actually down by 32,826, or 11.8%, compared to September of the previous year. This gave Sanders the perfect setup for those flashy campaign ads where he looked like a hero to Americans working blue-collar jobs.

Her predecessor, the Republican Zrinka Blažević, was kicked out before her term ended during a closed-door Government meeting while she was actually on vacation, all under the guise of "poor business results." Sanja Crnković Pozaić was pushed out for the exact same reason three years earlier. During the Democratic Party's administration, she was diligent about reporting the disastrous employment numbers. When she was replaced, the rumor mill suggested the real reason was the removal of her relative, the big-shot Republican head of the local Employment Service, ognjen Crnković.

According to the Agency's own stats, he was running the one branch out of 22 that consistently had the worst results. Once the local Republican branch started struggling, Crnković Pozaić was ousted, and Crnković was immediately appointed as the acting head of the very branch he had just been removed from. Interestingly enough, Crnković even changed the locks on his office to keep his successor out!

Unlike the Republican Party, the coalition shouldn't have needed a political hack in a role like this. You need a PROFESSIONAL for this job. But in a mafia-style system, they always need "one of their own." It’s incredibly destructive, and honestly, it’s pretty much the only thing the Republican Party knows how to do.

That’s why they aren't all the same. The coalition wasn't nearly as damaging. It wasn't perfect, far from it, but it wasn't nearly as bad as the Republican Party.

In all fairness, they actually did this during the Račan administration too—they would just change how they calculated unemployment to effectively wipe tens of thousands of people off the books right when joblessness was spiking. They stopped providing projections based on the old methodology, so during that time, the unemployment trends were basically meaningless. I don't know the exact specifics of what went down, but if we've hit the same unemployment levels we saw back in 2003 solely because of these accounting tricks, we might find ourselves looking at 1999 levels by tomorrow, even if the data doesn't show it yet.
That big claim about creating 150,000 jobs is really just a cheap knockoff of those Liberal promises from the 2000 election about 200,000 jobs. After failing to deliver, they just pivoted to saying they created more "in total" rather than net new positions.

The whole thing is a mess, but it seems these thieves in power are the absolute worst part of it.

northerntiger said:The bottom line is that when Americans show up at the polls in droves, they aren't just swapping out one group for another. They're sending a loud and clear message to whoever takes over next: don't even dream about pulling the same stunts the previous administration did. It needs to be crystal clear to everyone in power that they answer to the voters every single day of their term, not just during election season. At the end of the day, everyone is smjenjiv.

I'm with you. My only worry is that most people who actually want change won't even bother showing up to the polls. And what’s even worse? Even if they do show up, I bet the first three years will be the same old story: those
who get elected will still be arrogant, useless, rude, accomplishing nothing,
making endless promises, and so on. Then, maybe eighteen months before the next election, they'll suddenly start "working" or trying to justify their incompetence by blaming everything on the last "administration."
Maybe I'm being too pessimistic, but my past experience tells me otherwise.
We need radical changes here, and I'm not talking about stuff like Egypt or Tunisia.

northernmarlin2 said:In all fairness, they actually did this during the Račan administration too—they would just change how they calculated unemployment to effectively wipe tens of thousands of people off the books right when joblessness was spiking. They stopped providing projections based on the old methodology, so during that time, the unemployment trends were basically meaningless. I don't know the exact specifics of what went down, but if we've hit the same unemployment levels we saw back in 2003 solely because of these accounting tricks, we might find ourselves looking at 1999 levels by tomorrow, even if the data doesn't show it yet.
That big claim about creating 150,000 jobs is really just a cheap knockoff of those Liberal promises from the 2000 election about 200,000 jobs. After failing to deliver, they just pivoted to saying they created more "in total" rather than net new positions.

The whole thing is a mess, but it seems these thieves in power are the absolute worst part of it.

Facts. Sad, but true.
If I’m being optimistic, we are nowhere near seeing any kind of real revolution
in terms of getting a "new" generation of politicians in. We’re miles away from actually
killing off the whole "professional politician" career path—you know, those leeches
who do zero work, just talk big, make empty promises, and say absolutely nothing of substance.
Period.

What kind of individual could actually step into the Government right now—say, just a month or two ago—and truly get things moving? I'm talking about someone ambitious, tireless, and genuinely expert in their field. 🤣
Honestly, they’re all moral voids, so there’s really no point in paying them much mind. Not watching the news helps quite a bit, too. At least you aren't stuck listening to those leaked audio recordings. 🙂

The real question is—who’s actually going to end up getting crushed?
Everyone else is just sitting there, shrugging their shoulders like nothing matters.

northerntiger said:The bottom line is that when Americans show up at the polls in droves, they aren't just swapping out one group for another. They're sending a loud and clear message to whoever takes over next: don't even dream about pulling the same stunts the previous administration did. It needs to be crystal clear to everyone in power that they answer to the voters every single day of their term, not just during election season. At the end of the day, everyone is smjenjiv.

Exactly! As long as we don't hold them accountable, they’ll all just be the same old Republican=Democratic Party=Agrarian Party mess.
It isn't about which party you belong to or what your ideology is.
It’s about the people who actually change their tune once they finally "taste" the consequences.
I mean, once you get hit hard enough once, you learn your lesson, right? 😁

I honestly think this country is beyond saving at this point. We can't even cover the interest on our debt, let alone touch the principal. 😁
We need to implement some brutal, radical austerity measures and then just sit tight for 10 to 15 years to see if they actually work. But which administration or party is actually going to step up? No one. They’ll just keep things exactly as they are and pile on more debt just to coast through the next election. Their only real priority is grabbing power and clinging to it for dear life. 😉

The Republican Party will likely lose the next election by a landslide, but don't hold your breath—nothing significant is actually going to change. Maybe we'll see some cosmetic tweaks, but there is zero chance the Democratic Party is ready to make any real cuts. They proved that back in 2000. Aside from diving headfirst into new debt and systemic looting, I haven't seen anything truly radical from them. In fact, they were so pathetic they wouldn't even touch the privatization scandals or throw anyone in jail. Of course they won't; there's an unspoken agreement in play here: You loot for four years, then We loot for four years, then it's back to You. Nobody goes to prison. 🙂

Joshua Myers432 said:I honestly think this country is beyond saving at this point. We can't even cover the interest on our debt, let alone touch the principal. 😁
We need to implement some brutal, radical austerity measures and then just sit tight for 10 to 15 years to see if they actually work. But which administration or party is actually going to step up? No one. They’ll just keep things exactly as they are and pile on more debt just to coast through the next election. Their only real priority is grabbing power and clinging to it for dear life. 😉

The Republican Party will likely lose the next election by a landslide, but don't hold your breath—nothing significant is actually going to change. Maybe we'll see some cosmetic tweaks, but there is zero chance the Democratic Party is ready to make any real cuts. They proved that back in 2000. Aside from diving headfirst into new debt and systemic looting, I haven't seen anything truly radical from them. In fact, they were so pathetic they wouldn't even touch the privatization scandals or throw anyone in jail. Of course they won't; there's an unspoken agreement in play here: You loot for four years, then We loot for four years, then it's back to You. Nobody goes to prison. 🙂

The USA, the EU, and most other nations are drowning in debt too... why should everyone go bankrupt, including America? Who actually benefits from that?
Wouldn't it be simpler to just use inflation—devaluing the currency—to wipe out the debt and move on? Similarly, America could implement some modest cuts, join the EU, and let a weaker Euro make paying off those debts much easier.
Why don't we do that?

nimblescout50 said:The real question is—who’s actually going to end up getting crushed?
Everyone else is just sitting there, shrugging their shoulders like nothing matters.

That is exactly the point... it’s just pure misery and gloom. And then they have the nerve to laugh at those young rebels on Facebook who are actually trying to make a difference... honestly, what has happened to us...

wiredotter12 said:The USA, the EU, and most other nations are drowning in debt too... why should everyone go bankrupt, including America? Who actually benefits from that?
Wouldn't it be simpler to just use inflation—devaluing the currency—to wipe out the debt and move on? Similarly, America could implement some modest cuts, join the EU, and let a weaker Euro make paying off those debts much easier.
Why don't we do that?

Exactly. Everyone is in debt. Me and my neighbor. Only difference is I have a small overdraft $6.75 which puts me "only" $2333 in the red. My neighbor is doing even better than me—nearly twice as good—he's "only" $1167 in the hole. His credit limit is about $1000 😁 That’s probably why he’s digging through dumpsters every morning. 😁

They're going to be absolutely thrilled with your grasp of economics, genius. 👍
What kind of dark fantasy is this "paying off debt" nonsense? Even in sci-fi movies, America couldn't function without taking on more debt, let alone paying it all back. 🙏

Are you a Republican youth organizer or just a freshman economics major? What are you, a kid?

Joshua Myers432 said:Exactly. Everyone is in debt. Me and my neighbor. Only difference is I have a small overdraft $6.75 which puts me "only" $2333 in the red. My neighbor is doing even better than me—nearly twice as good—he's "only" $1167 in the hole. His credit limit is about $1000 😁 That’s probably why he’s digging through dumpsters every morning. 😁

They're going to be absolutely thrilled with your grasp of economics, genius. 👍
What kind of dark fantasy is this "paying off debt" nonsense? Even in sci-fi movies, America couldn't function without taking on more debt, let alone paying it all back. 🙏

Are you a Republican youth organizer or just a freshman economics major? What are you, a kid?

Sorry man, I'm not interested in bickering. I use this forum for information and actual arguments.

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