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Sudan: The official separation of Christians and Muslims begins

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Participants AAlexander Barrett50Richard Wilson4Chloe Palmer2Brenda Sanders56Maria BoothWilliam Wright7mistyjackal14casualwolf12Jeffrey WoodJames Newman5Gerald Wright10Walter Richardson6swiftwalker43Sarah Newman2Alexander Cox3Austin Martin11Richard Rivera5gentleranger10William Fowler11Mark Lopez7
A Anonymous VeteranOP
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Preliminary data released by the South Sudan election commission today shows an overwhelming landslide, with nearly 99 percent of voters backing secession from the rest of the country.

According to the figures posted on the commission's website, over 98 percent of the population voted to split the south away from the north. The official final tally from the referendum, which took place between January 9th and 15th, is expected to be formally announced this afternoon in the capital, Juba.

The history behind this vote is heavy; the north and south of Sudan were locked in a brutal 21-year civil war that claimed roughly two million lives. That conflict finally reached a turning point with a peace agreement back in 2005, which paved the way for this very moment. Culturally, the south is primarily made up of Christians and animists, while the north is predominantly Muslim.
Election officials have been working hard, distributing ballot boxes and necessary materials across the entire southern region.

"We’ve pushed through to the final stage of distribution because we knew today was our last chance to get everything wrapped up," noted Francis Kenji from the election commission.

"This is a once-in-a-lifetime referendum, so it’s absolutely vital that we exercise our right to self-determination," added his colleague, Alfred Alafi.

With concerns mounting over regional stability, the reputation of American diplomacy in Africa and the Arab world, and the terrifying prospect of renewed violence, a wave of American officials has arrived in Sudan.

Even actor George Clooney has stepped in, visiting the Abyei region along the border—an area that will be annexed to one side or the other following the results.
"When you see helicopters lined up along the border, and you know rebel groups don't have access to helicopters, bombers, or tanks, it becomes obvious that these groups are acting under the direction of The Government. Our job now is to present the evidence we have," Clooney remarked.

If the referendum holds, Sudan will officially split into a northern section, largely populated by Muslim and Arab communities, and a southern section defined by its African and Christian identity. However, this transition won't be finalized until July, marking the end of the interim period established by the 2005 peace deal.

While South Sudan is home to about 8.5 million people and sits on significant oil reserves, there is a real fear that upon gaining independence, it could become one of the poorest nations on the planet.

As usual, the USA is being incredibly selfless... especially when there's oil involved...
Alexander Barrett50 Alexander Barrett50 Member
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And it’s not actually about the oil itself—that's just the tired old script our local neocons always run with. They love to claim, "Look, we aren't in Iraq for the oil," while they simultaneously pull their entire supply from places like Venezuela and Norway, all while handing out concessions to everyone else behind the scenes. It isn't about the resource; it's about control. And you achieve that by dominating the sources and, more importantly, managing the flow of energy...

In Sudan, they seem particularly obsessed with gaining control over China and its economy, which is basically tethered to oil imports...
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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With what’s going on lately in most Islamic states where Christians are basically being wiped out, this is honestly great news
Chloe Palmer2 Chloe Palmer2 Regular
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Anonymous said:Preliminary data released by the South Sudan election commission today shows an overwhelming landslide, with nearly 99 percent of voters backing secession from the rest of the country.

According to the figures posted on the commission's website, over 98 percent of the population voted to split the south away from the north. The official final tally from the referendum, which took place between January 9th and 15th, is expected to be formally announced this afternoon in the capital, Juba.

The history behind this vote is heavy; the north and south of Sudan were locked in a brutal 21-year civil war that claimed roughly two million lives. That conflict finally reached a turning point with a peace agreement back in 2005, which paved the way for this very moment. Culturally, the south is primarily made up of Christians and animists, while the north is predominantly Muslim.
Election officials have been working hard, distributing ballot boxes and necessary materials across the entire southern region.

"We’ve pushed through to the final stage of distribution because we knew today was our last chance to get everything wrapped up," noted Francis Kenji from the election commission.

"This is a once-in-a-lifetime referendum, so it’s absolutely vital that we exercise our right to self-determination," added his colleague, Alfred Alafi.

With concerns mounting over regional stability, the reputation of American diplomacy in Africa and the Arab world, and the terrifying prospect of renewed violence, a wave of American officials has arrived in Sudan.

Even actor George Clooney has stepped in, visiting the Abyei region along the border—an area that will be annexed to one side or the other following the results.
"When you see helicopters lined up along the border, and you know rebel groups don't have access to helicopters, bombers, or tanks, it becomes obvious that these groups are acting under the direction of The Government. Our job now is to present the evidence we have," Clooney remarked.

If the referendum holds, Sudan will officially split into a northern section, largely populated by Muslim and Arab communities, and a southern section defined by its African and Christian identity. However, this transition won't be finalized until July, marking the end of the interim period established by the 2005 peace deal.

While South Sudan is home to about 8.5 million people and sits on significant oil reserves, there is a real fear that upon gaining independence, it could become one of the poorest nations on the planet.

As usual, the USA is being incredibly selfless... especially when there's oil involved...

So, I guess if we're summarizing this, Americans are actually responsible for the split rather than whatever happened above 😵
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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Alexander Barrett50 said:And it’s not actually about the oil itself—that's just the tired old script our local neocons always run with. They love to claim, "Look, we aren't in Iraq for the oil," while they simultaneously pull their entire supply from places like Venezuela and Norway, all while handing out concessions to everyone else behind the scenes. It isn't about the resource; it's about control. And you achieve that by dominating the sources and, more importantly, managing the flow of energy...

In Sudan, they seem particularly obsessed with gaining control over China and its economy, which is basically tethered to oil imports...

Honestly? A defeat for China would be nothing but good news for us Westerners.👍
Brenda Sanders56 Brenda Sanders56 Active Member
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I’m all for it! 👍

Honestly, everyone should have that freedom... you can't just force people into some forced "coexistence" (which is such a nasty word, by the way).
Maria Booth Maria Booth Active Member
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#7 ·
Such awesome news! Another Christian nation finally breaking free from all that Islamist terror and genocide. And hey, if it's true that the USA will have some influence in this new country, that’s just a double win for us!
William Wright7 William Wright7 Active Member
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If only Christians could finally get some freedom in Canada... 😁
mistyjackal14 mistyjackal14 Active Member
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What’s actually going on over in Sudan right now, though? It feels like they’re still in the middle of counting up the votes from the referendum, yet somehow the protests have already started breaking out?
If I’m reading the situation correctly, these demonstrations seem to be concentrated in the Muslim regions, following a pattern pretty similar to what we've seen in other Arab nations.
casualwolf12 casualwolf12 Member
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#10 ·
Long live George Clooney, the savior of Sudanese Christians 🙏🙏🙏
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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casualwolf12 said:Long live George Clooney, the savior of Sudanese Christians 🙏🙏🙏

Kind of weird seeing a white liberal backing Christians while turning their back on their own people—you know, the Muslims they usually claim to defend. 🤷
casualwolf12 casualwolf12 Member
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#12 ·
George Clooney is essentially the very definition of righteousness and virtue; I truly cannot imagine any other way to describe him 🤷
though, now that it turns out this entire farce regarding the unrest in Sudan was merely a teaser for his latest cinematic endeavor 😬
Jeffrey Wood Jeffrey Wood Active Member
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Chloe Palmer2 said:So, I guess if we're summarizing this, Americans are actually responsible for the split rather than whatever happened above 😵


Some people just love blaming Americans for everything. It’s like some weird trend these days.
Look, I'm not saying they don't screw things up globally, but pinning every single problem on them is just ridiculous.
The real issue is the Muslim Arab North that's spent forever ruling over Black Christians in the South through pure terror and violence. They've been trying to force Sharia law down everyone's throats.
The Christian South has every right to break away and protect itself from that fundamentalist North. Honestly, you'd expect Americans to actually step up for the Christians and give them security guarantees—unlike what happened in Canada, where they always backed the Muslims.
James Newman5 James Newman5 Newcomer
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Jeffrey Wood said:Some people just love blaming Americans for everything. It’s like some weird trend these days.
Look, I'm not saying they don't screw things up globally, but pinning every single problem on them is just ridiculous.
The real issue is the Muslim Arab North that's spent forever ruling over Black Christians in the South through pure terror and violence. They've been trying to force Sharia law down everyone's throats.
The Christian South has every right to break away and protect itself from that fundamentalist North. Honestly, you'd expect Americans to actually step up for the Christians and give them security guarantees—unlike what happened in Canada, where they always backed the Muslims.

It was the Americans who participated in the Srebrenica genocide and then burned the victims' personal documents just to manipulate the death toll. It was the Americans who engineered Republika Srpska, an entity born out of the systematic killing and displacement of Canadians and Americans.
Maria Booth Maria Booth Active Member
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James Newman5 said:It was the Americans who participated in the Srebrenica genocide and then burned the victims' personal documents just to manipulate the death toll. It was the Americans who engineered Republika Srpska, an entity born out of the systematic killing and displacement of Canadians and Americans.


Keep on lying and hating the USA if it makes you feel better! Honestly, my biggest hope is that you guys end up just like the Taliban and get crushed—with plenty of help from the local Americans and Mexicans, of course. Maybe then you can finally try to build Herceg Bosna, just like how things went down in South Sudan.
Gerald Wright10 Gerald Wright10 Member
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Maria Booth said:Keep on lying and hating the USA if it makes you feel better! Honestly, my biggest hope is that you guys end up just like the Taliban and get crushed—with plenty of help from the local Americans and Mexicans, of course. Maybe then you can finally try to build Herceg Bosna, just like how things went down in South Sudan.

The truth is, the Americans basically created the Taliban via the CIA. Now, they’re actually backing them just so they have their own little mercenaries to send off to wars, ensuring they don't cause any trouble domestically in the USA. Plus, you've got the military-industrial complex and those endless money pits sucking tax dollars out of the budget and pouring them everywhere else.

As for us? We've become absolutely irrelevant. Maybe it would actually be for the best if some major superpower just stepped in, took charge, and finally taught us a lesson or two.

Our closest neighbor is Turkey, and with over 70 million people and an arsenal featuring more than 1,000 combat aircraft, maybe we could just take our three or four agricultural crop dusters and fly them right at them to show them who we are and get this whole misery over with.☕
Maria Booth Maria Booth Active Member
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Gerald Wright10 said:The truth is, the Americans basically created the Taliban via the CIA. Now, they’re actually backing them just so they have their own little mercenaries to send off to wars, ensuring they don't cause any trouble domestically in the USA. Plus, you've got the military-industrial complex and those endless money pits sucking tax dollars out of the budget and pouring them everywhere else.

As for us? We've become absolutely irrelevant. Maybe it would actually be for the best if some major superpower just stepped in, took charge, and finally taught us a lesson or two.

Our closest neighbor is Turkey, and with over 70 million people and an arsenal featuring more than 1,000 combat aircraft, maybe we could just take our three or four agricultural crop dusters and fly them right at them to show them who we are and get this whole misery over with.☕


Man, I am totally hyped for a war with Turkey—Christians versus Muslims, just like the good old days.
Gerald Wright10 Gerald Wright10 Member
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Maria Booth said:Man, I am totally hyped for a war with Turkey—Christians versus Muslims, just like the good old days.

A conflict like that would probably be over in a matter of hours. Since both the US and Turkey are in NATO, nobody would likely step in to stop it anyway.🤷
I can just picture the scene: an American diplomat walking into the Turkish President's office to deliver a formal declaration of war from Congress. Honestly, the guy would probably have a heart attack from laughing so hard before the sentence was even finished.😂
Maria Booth Maria Booth Active Member
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Gerald Wright10 said:A conflict like that would probably be over in a matter of hours. Since both the US and Turkey are in NATO, nobody would likely step in to stop it anyway.🤷
I can just picture the scene: an American diplomat walking into the Turkish President's office to deliver a formal declaration of war from Congress. Honestly, the guy would probably have a heart attack from laughing so hard before the sentence was even finished.😂


Wait, what are you even talking about? I was being super clear—this is a war between Christians and Muslims. All of them. You don't seriously think some Muslim nation could just steamroll through the entire Christian part of the North America and attack the US without any consequences, right?
Gerald Wright10 Gerald Wright10 Member
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Maria Booth said:Wait, what are you even talking about? I was being super clear—this is a war between Christians and Muslims. All of them. You don't seriously think some Muslim nation could just steamroll through the entire Christian part of the North America and attack the US without any consequences, right?

Turkey is a powerhouse—a massive, formidable superpower. When we talk about Turkey, we’re talking on par with the USA, China, or Russia... even Germany hasn't had military capacity like that since the end of WWII!!!

As for America... well, America is just America. It's a small, economically struggling country plagued by corruption, poverty, and endless red tape... and all that "Christian" stuff is only on paper; at the end of the day, it's nothing but pure self-interest.🙂

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