Why don't we organize ourselves politically as a forum?

Making up enemies for the USA, 1500 points.

Thanks for this, lady. Really shows your class. If a mod slapped me with a warning just for calling out your constant bragging about the USA, then this kind of thing definitely deserves more than just a warning

And where exactly does advocating for a convicted criminal—someone who has already disgraced and damaged the USA—fit into your classification?

Melissa Peterson19 said:Look, you’re new here and you’re already throwing warnings around. If you keep this up, you’ll be banned from this forum very quickly. Read the rules, actually learn the subject matter you're commenting on, and get to know the people you're calling out. You're years and thousands of posts behind us. We mostly know each other here.

Listen, Ozzy never brags; he just mocks everyone's involvement in the war. Only 1% of those people were in actual combat. The rest was just a drunken, unruly mob dying for nothing or committing crimes—arson and theft. I was drafted and showed up reluctantly to an unnecessary war to defend people from Royalist knives, not to build a nation for harmon and the Republican Party. And yes, I am an American, a Catholic, and I hate this state entity run by a mafia syndicate. I don't recognize it, and I disavow it. But I love my miserable homeland, America!

Apologies for the off-topic tangent! (Not to you, though—get lost!)

You're a dangerous player. Just slapping these crazy types around—hard and fast. You've got balls like a kid, and a heart like the Rocky Mountains. 🙏

Angela Cox said:Is it possible for me to head up a department dedicated to liquidating the "deserving" ones whom the courts have conveniently overlooked? 😈 😁

Sure, if you want. Just don't expect any official paperwork.

Melissa Peterson19 said:And where exactly does advocating for a convicted criminal—someone who has already disgraced and damaged the USA—fit into your classification?

Just wait until we actually get into power and can go after all those old FBI informants. I guess you shouldn't just throw people under the bus without an actual court ruling.

😉

Melissa Peterson19 said:Every crime deserves prosecution and punishment. That applies to both the Civil War and World War II. However, there must first be proof. We need names—victims and perpetrators alike. That is what I demand when any veteran is being prosecuted, just as much as when we discuss 1945. There needs to be legal proof that the events in Blairsville constituted a crime. We have to establish who did what, where, and how. You cannot simply issue a blanket condemnation and convict an entire unit, like the 6th or 7th Brigade, for the liquidation of "Americans." Legally, that isn't possible. And that is what you are asking for? You can make declarations all you want, but what is the actual utility in that?

The fix is easy, really. Just like we stayed silent about the partisan atrocities, let's pass a law banning any talk of veteran crimes for the next 60 years of democracy. Then our great-grandchildren can play their games. They can shout, "Go ahead, put my great-grandfather on trial!" while demanding eyewitnesses, forensic evidence, the exact executioners, and—of course—a full confession. Maybe some descendants of those partisans would even want to film historical reenactments now... probably looking for some Americans to act as stunt doubles in the background. Yeah. Brilliant idea.

dustypuma5 said:Just wait until we actually get into power and can go after all those old FBI informants. I guess you shouldn't just throw people under the bus without an actual court ruling.

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Why not? Throwing all the anti-American types into concentration camps is basically the ultimate act of patriotism, right? Why wait? You already got your list of racial profiles ready to go?
Sure, if you ask for it, the Homeland will demand your sacrifice too. And your family's. And everyone else who looks even slightly suspicious. Even the ones who hang out with the suspects. Or the ones who gave them a wave once. Anyone who dares to think differently than you lot—you guys with your liquidation slogans and brainwashing contests—everyone gets it. All in the name of that "love for country" you're so cozy with until you find yourselves alone in the wasteland of your own making. Because let’s face it, a real country needs open-minded people, not a bunch of paranoid fanatics who jump at shadows and sharpen their knives at anything they don't understand.
When do "we" take power? Who exactly? The Nazi Party of America?

Melissa Peterson19 said:Every crime deserves prosecution and punishment. That applies to both the Civil War and World War II. However, there must first be proof. We need names—victims and perpetrators alike. That is what I demand when any veteran is being prosecuted, just as much as when we discuss 1945. There needs to be legal proof that the events in Blairsville constituted a crime. We have to establish who did what, where, and how. You cannot simply issue a blanket condemnation and convict an entire unit, like the 6th or 7th Brigade, for the liquidation of "Americans." Legally, that isn't possible. And that is what you are asking for? You can make declarations all you want, but what is the actual utility in that?

First, we should look at command responsibility. We need to target the commanders and political commissars of the units present at Waterloo. There is documentation detailing which units were involved and who actually held the reins, and from there, the trail would lead to everyone else quite quickly. The payoff for such an investigation would be immense. Most people crave truth and justice, especially those who have lost someone unfairly. An enormous number of people were executed without cause. Clearly, you haven't lost anyone in such a manner, which explains why this doesn't move you.
Currently, some movement is happening on this front due to requests coming from Germany. There is already a Veterans Affairs organization that has been collaborating with Germany for several years now. Their focus is on the fate of captured Germans and others. I suspect this will soon be escalated to a higher level of government. 🤦

dustypuma5 said:Just wait until we actually get into power and can go after all those old FBI informants. I guess you shouldn't just throw people under the bus without an actual court ruling.

😉

And when exactly is that happening? Until then, we’re all going down. We "intelligence agents," clearly.

Thomas Smith said:The fix is easy, really. Just like we stayed silent about the partisan atrocities, let's pass a law banning any talk of veteran crimes for the next 60 years of democracy. Then our great-grandchildren can play their games. They can shout, "Go ahead, put my great-grandfather on trial!" while demanding eyewitnesses, forensic evidence, the exact executioners, and—of course—a full confession. Maybe some descendants of those partisans would even want to film historical reenactments now... probably looking for some Americans to act as stunt doubles in the background. Yeah. Brilliant idea.

Look, you know that’s how it works in court; otherwise, your indictment fails and the defendant walks free. Then everyone starts screaming about the FBI, communists, and so on. You can condemn anyone politically, but that doesn't put them in prison. There are no penalties for political condemnation.

Jamie Jackson30 said:First, we should look at command responsibility. We need to target the commanders and political commissars of the units present at Waterloo. There is documentation detailing which units were involved and who actually held the reins, and from there, the trail would lead to everyone else quite quickly. The payoff for such an investigation would be immense. Most people crave truth and justice, especially those who have lost someone unfairly. An enormous number of people were executed without cause. Clearly, you haven't lost anyone in such a manner, which explains why this doesn't move you.
Currently, some movement is happening on this front due to requests coming from Germany. There is already a Veterans Affairs organization that has been collaborating with Germany for several years now. Their focus is on the fate of captured Germans and others. I suspect this will soon be escalated to a higher level of government. 🤦

I lost an uncle, but he was his own worst enemy—an arrogant fool. Regarding memorialization, we've already covered that topic. What can you even write over an uninvestigated mass grave? Just: "Victims of WWII." Otherwise, I am all for a full investigation to reach the ultimate truth. I like R. Tomasić's idea of having the diaspora fund the research. If Bavarians lead the way, even better.