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Proposed Hate Speech Law in Finland: The Death of Free Speech

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Participants Raymond CastilloJeffrey WoodSandra Johnson58Kate James11Rebecca Roberts3Richard Wilson4rowdytinker3mistyjackal14Linda Collins3Kyle White7Richard James2bluecobra27Rebecca BrownSteven Allen9
Raymond Castillo Raymond Castillo NewcomerOP
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joined Dec 2012
#1 ·
http://www.davidduke.com/general/fou...tes_15937.html

http://www.hs.fi/kotimaa/artikkeli/N.../1135252244859

Apparently, the government in Finland is working on legislation that would criminalize even just visiting websites that promote ideas like preserving the white race. I think they might be looking at prison sentences of up to four years for this.

It feels like liberal totalitarianism is really gaining ground in Europe...

Maybe even just browsing sites that aren't considered "proper" by liberal ideological standards could land you in jail.
Jeffrey Wood Jeffrey Wood Active Member
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joined May 2013
#2 ·
The entire West is finished, man. They went down the drain right along with all that political correctness. Who’s pulling the strings? We can argue about that all day if you want.
Sandra Johnson58 Sandra Johnson58 Active Member
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joined Apr 2019
#3 ·
Those liberal snowflakes and cosmopolitans up North who preach equality for everyone—except for anyone who doesn't fall in line with their specific views—are gonna end up eating their own cooked garbage☕
Kate James11 Kate James11 Member
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joined Jun 2010
#4 ·
I don't think we need to go around banning everything—that's just not how this works. Instead, we should be keeping a close eye on those frequent visitors to these kinds of sites, and then once they actually start posting hate speech on forums like Stormfront, that's when the authorities step in and make an arrest.
Rebecca Roberts3 Rebecca Roberts3 Member
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joined Apr 2013
#5 ·
In Australia, authorities have implemented a ban on depicting adult women with small breasts as a preemptive strike against child pornography.
Kate James11 Kate James11 Member
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joined Jun 2010
#6 ·
I suppose I should probably start by apologizing—it feels a little awkward to dive straight into this without some sort of context, but here we are. I’ve been sitting here for a good twenty minutes just staring at my screen, trying to figure out how to put these thoughts into words without sounding like I’m overthinking things (which, let’s be honest, is pretty much my default setting). There’s this specific feeling—that strange, lingering sense of unease you get when something just doesn't sit right—that’s been hovering over me lately. It’s hard to pin down, isn't it? Like that subtle shift in the air right before a massive thunderstorm hits the Midwest, where everything goes quiet and heavy, and you just know something is about to break. It’s not quite fear, but it’s definitely not peace, either. It’s more of a restless anticipation. I was reading through some old discussions earlier—well, actually, I was scrolling through some of Kate James11's posts—and it struck me how much our perspectives change depending on the "vibe" of the room. We tend to react so viscerally to certain ideas, almost instinctively, before we even have a chance to process them logically. It’s a very human flaw, I suppose—this tendency to let our gut feelings drive the bus before our brains have even had their morning coffee. Anyway, I don't mean to ramble. I just felt the need to get this out there—to see if anyone else is feeling this particular brand of restlessness, or if it's just me being my usual, overly analytical self. It’s a bit of a strange topic to bring up out of the blue, I realize, but sometimes the most random thoughts are the ones that demand the most attention. Kate James11 says:
In Australia, they’ve actually implemented a ban on showing adult women naked when they... I’ve been seeing quite a bit of discussion lately regarding male chest development—specifically when it comes to addressing unwanted tissue or just general pectoral shaping—and I thought it might be worth diving into this a little more thoughtfully. It’s one of those topics that people often feel a bit self-conscious about bringing up in polite conversation, but honestly, it's a much more common concern than you'd think. Whether someone is looking to tighten things up through targeted strength training at the gym or is dealing with hormonal shifts that cause a bit of extra volume, there isn't really a "one size fits all" solution. If we're talking about fitness, it’s all about that progressive overload—hitting the bench press and various fly movements to build the muscle underneath—but if the issue is more physiological, sometimes it's a matter of consulting a specialist to figure out what's actually going on. It can be a bit frustrating, especially when you feel like you're doing everything right with your diet and workouts but the results aren't quite matching your expectations. Just a little food for thought for anyone navigating this—it's okay to take it slow and focus on finding the right approach for your specific body type. As a necessary measure in the fight against child pornography.

It hasn't been implemented yet—if you take a look at the comments section on that article, you'll see people discussing exactly that.
Everyone, please—just take a breath. Let’s stay calm here because this hasn't actually been confirmed yet! When those reports first dropped, they were essentially suggesting that there should be stricter regulations regarding certain physical characteristics in young females or adolescents to prevent child exploitation and misconduct. To be clear, what they were discussing as a point of consideration was specifically regarding extremely small measurements—think AA cups or smaller. However, I want to emphasize that this hasn't been turned into actual legislation, nor is it likely to be. This was merely a recommendation put forward by Congress—nothing more.
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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joined Sep 2009
#7 ·
Kate James11 said:I don't think we need to go around banning everything—that's just not how this works. Instead, we should be keeping a close eye on those frequent visitors to these kinds of sites, and then once they actually start posting hate speech on forums like Stormfront, that's when the authorities step in and make an arrest.

What about the leftists who back violence for whatever reason in places like Belleville?

Hate is definitely spreading from the left lately.
rowdytinker3 rowdytinker3 Member
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joined May 2023
#8 ·
Honestly, this whole idea of "preserving the white race" is just fundamentally moronic. It stems from such a lack of intelligence that people who actually frequent these kinds of sites are basically just wasting space. In my opinion, they should be thrown in jail; people that brainless have absolutely nothing to offer society.
mistyjackal14 mistyjackal14 Active Member
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joined Aug 2012
#9 ·
rowdytinker3 said:Honestly, this whole idea of "preserving the white race" is just fundamentally moronic. It stems from such a lack of intelligence that people who actually frequent these kinds of sites are basically just wasting space. In my opinion, they should be thrown in jail; people that brainless have absolutely nothing to offer society.

it’s just pure Nazi rhetoric, really, representing some of the absolute worst examples you could find.

So, if we follow that logic, shouldn't everyone advocating for those kinds of laws be the very first ones punished under them?

(The left wing can go jump in a lake, honestly, their entire ideology collapses faster than a house of cards built in a hurricane)
rowdytinker3 rowdytinker3 Member
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#10 ·
mistyjackal14 said:it’s just pure Nazi rhetoric, really, representing some of the absolute worst examples you could find.

So, if we follow that logic, shouldn't everyone advocating for those kinds of laws be the very first ones punished under them?

(The left wing can go jump in a lake, honestly, their entire ideology collapses faster than a house of cards built in a hurricane)

Look, I wouldn't try to "fix" a gay guy, but I’d definitely beat up someone trying to attack him. I wouldn't throw a Black man in jail just because of his skin color, but I’d absolutely nail the guy who tries to hit him for being Black. You know? To me, those views are way more grounded than the right-wing crowd, who seem to bake intolerance right into their platform based on some outdated church doctrines and blind patriotism.
Linda Collins3 Linda Collins3 Active Member
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joined Jun 2013
#11 ·
rowdytinker3 said:Honestly, this whole idea of "preserving the white race" is just fundamentally moronic. It stems from such a lack of intelligence that people who actually frequent these kinds of sites are basically just wasting space. In my opinion, they should be thrown in jail; people that brainless have absolutely nothing to offer society.

rowdytinker3 said:Look, I wouldn't try to "fix" a gay guy, but I’d definitely beat up someone trying to attack him. I wouldn't throw a Black man in jail just because of his skin color, but I’d absolutely nail the guy who tries to hit him for being Black. You know? To me, those views are way more grounded than the right-wing crowd, who seem to bake intolerance right into their platform based on some outdated church doctrines and blind patriotism.

This is just classic inconsistency and intellectual dishonesty from the typical leftist worldview.

They "prove" their points using arbitrary premises like calling things "stupid."

They take motives that belong to a tiny minority and project them onto an entire group—like implying everyone interested in white identity wants to commit violence—then draw conclusions based on their own assumptions.

They throw around the ideological buzzword "intolerance" just to dismiss any actual values and push for moral relativism and social decay.

Then there's the individual nonsense, like dragging the church into racial debates where it actually shows total "tolerance," or rather, complete lack of discrimination.
Kyle White7 Kyle White7 Newcomer
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joined Jan 2011
#12 ·
Liberalism is actually the most repressive political ideology out there ☕
Richard James2 Richard James2 Active Member
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joined Feb 2012
#13 ·
Kyle White7 said:Liberalism is actually the most repressive political ideology out there ☕

If it morphs into an unquestionable, socially mandated dogma? Then absolutely. Otherwise, it isn't.
bluecobra27 bluecobra27 Active Member
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#14 ·
Richard James2 said:If it morphs into an unquestionable, socially mandated dogma? Then absolutely. Otherwise, it isn't.

Liberalism has been hijacked. It's a joke. Nowadays, the people calling themselves "liberals" have more in common with the communists and fascists from the early 1900s than they do with the actual liberals those very ideologies were fighting against.

Back in the early 20th century, being "progressive" meant you were a communist or a fascist. Today? Being progressive just means you're a liberal who believes in censorship disguised as "political correctness," advocates for equality—except it’s always a slightly higher level of equality for certain victim groups—and craves an all-powerful government that sticks its nose into every single aspect of human life.
Kyle White7 Kyle White7 Newcomer
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#15 ·
bluecobra27 said:Liberalism has been hijacked. It's a joke. Nowadays, the people calling themselves "liberals" have more in common with the communists and fascists from the early 1900s than they do with the actual liberals those very ideologies were fighting against.

Back in the early 20th century, being "progressive" meant you were a communist or a fascist. Today? Being progressive just means you're a liberal who believes in censorship disguised as "political correctness," advocates for equality—except it’s always a slightly higher level of equality for certain victim groups—and craves an all-powerful government that sticks its nose into every single aspect of human life.

Exactly. That’s what I’m getting at—it's all a joke. They hide behind this fake "liberalism" and "democracy" nonsense just to roll out bans on whatever they want—all to cater to some "vulnerable" minority that basically gets treated like a protected species. Isn't that just how it works now?
Richard James2 Richard James2 Active Member
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joined Feb 2012
#16 ·
bluecobra27 said:Liberalism has been hijacked. It's a joke. Nowadays, the people calling themselves "liberals" have more in common with the communists and fascists from the early 1900s than they do with the actual liberals those very ideologies were fighting against.

Back in the early 20th century, being "progressive" meant you were a communist or a fascist. Today? Being progressive just means you're a liberal who believes in censorship disguised as "political correctness," advocates for equality—except it’s always a slightly higher level of equality for certain victim groups—and craves an all-powerful government that sticks its nose into every single aspect of human life.

Look, I didn't dive deep into that specific point, but I've often written about how liberalism morphed from just one school of thought into this supposed "one true way" of thinking. It drifted light-years away from its original principles. So, I can definitely agree with that sentiment, and I've already tried to define exactly what I find so problematic about today's leading liberal voices—if we can even still call them that.

Now, let's talk about Michael and the Frankfurt School. 😁
Rebecca Brown Rebecca Brown Newcomer
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joined Jan 2011
#17 ·
Everything will eventually unfold exactly how the USA dictates. It’s been an open secret for quite some time now that Finland, Sweden, and Norway are little more than American puppets...
Steven Allen9 Steven Allen9 Active Member
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joined Mar 2012
#18 ·
Americans own more guns per capita than anyone else on the planet. Who would’ve guessed they’d even outpace Texas?

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