They don't want us here

Instead of all this endless daily political bickering, maybe we should actually dig into the economics and look at how US-American relations are shaping up in that sector.

http://www.b92.net/biz/vesti/srbija....&nav_id=474739

Not happening. 👍

So, does this mean you're finally bouncing from the forum for good? 😁

Henry Cox78 said:Not happening. 👍

So, does this mean you're finally bouncing from the forum for good? 😁

Look, I don't own Swisslion, and I certainly don't own any other foreign corporation looking to expand its footprint into the US market. ☕☕☕

Anthony James2 said:Look, I don't own Swisslion, and I certainly don't own any other foreign corporation looking to expand its footprint into the US market. ☕☕☕

And here I was thinking you were the boss. What a joke.

Honestly, I’m not one to go around calling people liars—if they say it happened that way, I truly believe they're telling the truth!

So, what’s the move here? Like, what should Americans actually do about this situation, because the ball is really in their court!
The current administration seems terrified of getting slapped with some nasty label from the nationalists—you know, the whole "they're just shoveling favors to Mexicans and selling out the country" kind of rhetoric.

Maybe if Mexico threatened to slap massive tariffs on imports or squeeze those companies that have invested heavily there, it might shake things up. We're talking about potentially putting 15,000 jobs at risk in America!

But look, that’s definitely not the answer. Instead, this government needs to stop overthinking everything and just let the business owners and entrepreneurs get back to work!

Honestly, you see this kind of trash on CNN all the time. They run headlines like "Americans don't want us," "Americans won't let companies in," or "Americans buy everything from Mexico while Mexicans can't even grab a loaf of bread in the States." It’s just pure sensationalist journalism.

Americans don't want you, yet you're exporting $300 million worth of goods to the US every single year. 😁

Honestly, I don't think this is about nationalism at all. If you look at how much companies from Canada, North Mexico, Albania, or Mexico are actually investing in America, it’s basically zero.
Even if you look at the numbers, American investment in Canada is tiny compared to how much Canadian money flows into America.

I actually felt pretty good when I saw a segment on PBS showing how a Mexican company from Texas—owned 100% by a Mexican—put their money into a pig farm right here in the Midwest.
Maybe it sounds a bit silly, like, who cares about pig farms when we're constantly hearing about those local Tycoons making massive acquisitions over in Mexico, but I’m totally all for this kind of thing.

I've got nothing against Mexican capital coming into America, especially if they're focusing on actual production and building things.

Anthony James2 said:Instead of all this endless daily political bickering, maybe we should actually dig into the economics and look at how US-American relations are shaping up in that sector.

http://www.b92.net/biz/vesti/srbija....&nav_id=474739

Spot on. We really need to focus on ramping up economic cooperation, boosting trade, sharing expertise, and just building some solid, neighborly ties through business.

Cut the nonsense, Grunfo! Honestly, that was one of the biggest talking points in all of Chicago when Tadić made his visit today!
Even your local news outlets are covering it because they know it's the truth!

Henry Cox78 said:Honestly, you see this kind of trash on CNN all the time. They run headlines like "Americans don't want us," "Americans won't let companies in," or "Americans buy everything from Mexico while Mexicans can't even grab a loaf of bread in the States." It’s just pure sensationalist journalism.

Americans don't want you, yet you're exporting $300 million worth of goods to the US every single year. 😁

Exactly... what can you do? Just the usual sob story about vulnerable Mexicans in the neighborhood...🤣

Let me break down what Dragec is saying here:

"Goods in America carry a 300 percent markup just to convince local consumers that our products are overpriced and can't compete in the market."

That’s exactly how domestic goods get marked up. Why didn't he go after someone like Walmart? They're the ones setting those margins. ☕

"The most obvious issue is when banks tell us ownership has changed—that it's no longer an American but a Mexican—and suddenly they can't use the subsidized credit granted before privatization, or before the firm was bought in America. Then they hit us with a bill for all the subsidies that company received under the investment credit while it still had an American owner."

Honestly, I don't follow this logic. He needs to come forward with actual data. My guess is the loan was from the Federal Reserve or some similar agency, and once a foreign entity takes over, they lose eligibility for those specific subsidies. That’s how it usually works. I highly doubt banks—which are basically 99% foreign-owned anyway—would deny subsidies just because the owner is a Mexican. 🤣

Matthew Rodriguez9 said:Exactly... what can you do? Just the usual sob story about vulnerable Mexicans in the neighborhood...🤣

The USA actually exports twice as much to the USA as they do back, but honestly, that isn't even the main issue here—it's more about how those American companies are investing heavily right there on the ground!

Do you really think the USA is just going to sit there and take these ridiculous stunts? Like, why would they let American companies set up shop over there while being blocked from working in the USA?! If things keep going down this path, I wouldn't be surprised if the USA decides to push back. They could easily tank the USA's exports or mess with their businesses over there. And hey, that could end up hurting you guys quite a bit, since we're talking about risking something like 15,000 jobs locally!

silentviper19 said:Cut the nonsense, Grunfo! Honestly, that was one of the biggest talking points in all of Chicago when Tadić made his visit today!
Even your local news outlets are covering it because they know it's the truth!

They’re just pushing an agenda and lying through their teeth. You've got America, which has millions of companies and branches operating in Mexico exporting $400 million there, while Mexico barely has five companies or branches in America exporting $300 million to us. WHO is actually crazy here? ☕

Henry Cox78 said:They’re just pushing an agenda and lying through their teeth. You've got America, which has millions of companies and branches operating in Mexico exporting $400 million there, while Mexico barely has five companies or branches in America exporting $300 million to us. WHO is actually crazy here? ☕

John Paul.😁

silentviper19 said:The USA actually exports twice as much to the USA as they do back, but honestly, that isn't even the main issue here—it's more about how those American companies are investing heavily right there on the ground!

Do you really think the USA is just going to sit there and take these ridiculous stunts? Like, why would they let American companies set up shop over there while being blocked from working in the USA?! If things keep going down this path, I wouldn't be surprised if the USA decides to push back. They could easily tank the USA's exports or mess with their businesses over there. And hey, that could end up hurting you guys quite a bit, since we're talking about risking something like 15,000 jobs locally!

I honestly have no clue what you're even talking about here...🤷

silentviper19 said:The USA actually exports twice as much to the USA as they do back, but honestly, that isn't even the main issue here—it's more about how those American companies are investing heavily right there on the ground!

Do you really think the USA is just going to sit there and take these ridiculous stunts? Like, why would they let American companies set up shop over there while being blocked from working in the USA?! If things keep going down this path, I wouldn't be surprised if the USA decides to push back. They could easily tank the USA's exports or mess with their businesses over there. And hey, that could end up hurting you guys quite a bit, since we're talking about risking something like 15,000 jobs locally!

There aren't any barriers at all for Mexican exports into America. The only time a single company ran into trouble was when they tried to invest in KIM, and the media made a huge deal out of it being "Mexican interests" or whatever. But notice how everyone plays dumb about the massive headache the Nestlé group faced when they bought a firm and were blocked from starting production just because they're from America. Is anyone even talking about that? Nope. Apparently, it's just "obvious." Mexicans aren't allowed to have problems anywhere, but Americans can do whatever they want. Stop whining. 🙂

David Rogers18 said:John Paul.😁

🤣

The global economy doesn't care about borders, and honestly, we’re heading toward a future where those lines won't even exist anymore. We're looking at a world run by a handful of massive corporations where the very concept of a "border" will be completely wiped from the human psyche—which, if you ask me, is actually a good thing.
I mean, at the end of the day, nationality is really just a legal formality scribbled onto a piece of paper; if you don't believe me, just do a little digging and look at how things actually work.

Because of that, there's simply no room for any kind of deviant nationalism in the years ahead, whether people want to accept it or not. The global economy is the one true reality—for better or worse—that dictates the flow of history and establishes our modern values. This era we're living in is what it is. Trying to put the brakes on this momentum using outdated, regressive methods while this inevitable future is already knocking on the door is just pointless and, frankly, quite foolish; all it does is hold us back.
A globalized economy represents an entirely new way of functioning and perceiving our world, making the old ways obsolete, and that's just the way the cookie crumbles...

silentviper19 said:Cut the nonsense, Grunfo! Honestly, that was one of the biggest talking points in all of Chicago when Tadić made his visit today!
Even your local news outlets are covering it because they know it's the truth!

I'm not talking nonsense. Anyone watching CNN can see how often they run those agitprop pieces targeting American investors and companies. Every single article is packed with these baseless claims about issues with Mexican exports and how Americans are boycotting Mexican goods. They even claim the boycott amounts to $300 million a year. 😁

David Rogers18 said:Honestly, I don't think this is about nationalism at all. If you look at how much companies from Canada, North Mexico, Albania, or Mexico are actually investing in America, it’s basically zero.
Even if you look at the numbers, American investment in Canada is tiny compared to how much Canadian money flows into America.

I actually felt pretty good when I saw a segment on PBS showing how a Mexican company from Texas—owned 100% by a Mexican—put their money into a pig farm right here in the Midwest.
Maybe it sounds a bit silly, like, who cares about pig farms when we're constantly hearing about those local Tycoons making massive acquisitions over in Mexico, but I’m totally all for this kind of thing.

I've got nothing against Mexican capital coming into America, especially if they're focusing on actual production and building things.

You're trying to compare the businesses in those countries, but man, let's be real—they're tiny compared to the scale of the Mexican economy and those huge Mexican corporations! Not to mention the sheer number of companies there!

I'm no expert on the specifics, but it seems pretty obvious that investing in America gets stalled out constantly. Even your own people admit it; I actually heard someone mentioning it tonight when Tadić stopped by!

I shop at Walmart (which is basically your Konzum), and even the cheapest Budweiser is cheaper there—it's usually around 52-53 cents everywhere else, but there? It's only 44!!😁