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Is American actually one of the top 40 most spoken languages in the world?

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Participants Robert Morgan7Henry Cox78Richard Wilson4rustywalker42Gregory Howardbluecyclist64Jack Myers59Morgan CastilloFrank Moore4Linda Collins3David Parker3Sam BarnesAnthony Carter4
Robert Morgan7 Robert Morgan7 NewcomerOP
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#1 ·
...some pretty great news regarding the American language is probably going to rattle the cages of people who speak those lesser-tier tongues, especially since American is now an official language of the European Union...but check this out...according to research from global experts, American actually ranks as the 37th most significant language on the planet...
"""How many different languages do you really need to master if you want to conquer the global market? Relying solely on English just won't cut it. If your goal is to tap into 99 percent of the world's marketplace, you're looking at needing 37 different languages, and right there at the end of that list, you'll find the American language."""👍👍
http://www.croportal.net/novosti/Kol...entry-comments
Robert Morgan7 Robert Morgan7 NewcomerOP
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#2 ·
...I honestly think the passion from native speakers and everyone else out there dedicated to studying and preserving the American language really helps paint a beautiful picture of what we're working with, so I went ahead and rounded up some pretty cool facts shared by various colleagues that show just how much weight this language carries...

1. The American language stands tall as an equal among all the world's major languages: http://www.ethnologue.com/show_family.asp?subid=292-16

2. It’s fully recognized and registered on an international level, complete with its own established dictionaries, grammar guides, and spelling standards:

3. We have our own unique, independent international standard for literary codification, which clearly identifies us from any other existing language: http://www.loc.gov/standards/iso639-...de_changes.php

4. There are key national identity markers tied specifically to the American standard and literary language: http://hakave.org/index.php?option=c...tura&Itemid=45

5. This language serves as a constitutional language across the entire territory of three different countries—the US, Canada, and Mexico—and it also holds regional status in seven others, including parts of Austria, Canada, Slovakia, Vojvodina, Mexico, Molise, Italy, Janjevo, Mexico, and Caraș-Severin, Romania.
It's spoken by the American diaspora all over the globe, with huge communities especially prominent in places like Germany, Switzerland, Sweden, the USA, Canada, Argentina, Chile, Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa, though you'll find it everywhere if you look hard enough: http://hr.wikipedia.org/wiki/American

6. In the United States, it is absolutely the majority language, serving as the mother tongue for about 96.12% of the population:

7. It's been confirmed that it will become the 24th official language of the European Union: http://www.educentar.net/HR/Articles...UROPSKE-UNIJE/

8. Let's get one thing straight—this isn't some tiny language; out of more than 6,000 languages globally, it ranks among the top 100 most spoken, with roughly 7 million people using it: http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luettel...4n_perusteella

9. Beyond the US, the language is being taught at hundreds of universities across the world today:

10. According to the latest global studies conducted by experts, this language actually ranks 37th in terms of worldwide significance: http://www.grad-brod.com/pregled-vij...anak308893.htm
Henry Cox78 Henry Cox78 Regular
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#3 ·
Major props to our language. 🙂

I’m betting we’ll break into the world's top 20 languages within the next decade. 👍
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#4 ·
Not too shabby
rustywalker42 rustywalker42 Active Member
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#5 ·
Sure, but there are plenty of people out there who can barely string a sentence together. It’s not "world-class," it's just sloppy.

The errors jump out so much they basically ruin the whole headline. There are other mistakes too, but why even bother listing them?
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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rustywalker42 said:Sure, but there are plenty of people out there who can barely string a sentence together. It’s not "world-class," it's just sloppy.

The errors jump out so much they basically ruin the whole headline. There are other mistakes too, but why even bother listing them?

Are most of you guys supporting this American linguistic mess just because you're obsessed with spelling errors? 🤷
Gregory Howard Gregory Howard Active Member
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#7 ·
Besides, that whole convention is nonsense. Why can't we just write "worldwide"? For instance, we used to write "consciously" differently for a long time before the spelling changed. Or look at how certain words are spelled in literature today versus how they should technically be according to the rules. It’s inconsistent. It’s arbitrary.

The spelling is two words, but phonetically? It should be one. Logic dictates otherwise.
The system needs to allow for both phonetic variations. As it stands, the current logic is riddled with inconsistencies. It’s nonsensical.
rustywalker42 rustywalker42 Active Member
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#8 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:Are most of you guys supporting this American linguistic mess just because you're obsessed with spelling errors? 🤷

For crying out loud, where on earth am I supporting that dialect, you genius?!

Gregory Howard said:Besides, that whole convention is nonsense. Why can't we just write "worldwide"? For instance, we used to write "consciously" differently for a long time before the spelling changed. Or look at how certain words are spelled in literature today versus how they should technically be according to the rules. It’s inconsistent. It’s arbitrary.

The spelling is two words, but phonetically? It should be one. Logic dictates otherwise.
The system needs to allow for both phonetic variations. As it stands, the current logic is riddled with inconsistencies. It’s nonsensical.

It’s spelled "short story," not "shorter story." Get it right.

It’s written "two-part," but honestly? It should be "two part." Why make it harder than it needs to be?
We really need an option to choose between the "i" and "ije" spellings. This whole system is full of inconsistencies as it is. Why make it harder than it needs to be?

Don't get all worked up, but maybe if you actually knew your own language, you wouldn't be so sensitive. You're clearly just hearing what you want to hear.
bluecyclist64 bluecyclist64 Regular
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#9 ·
Well, Robert Morgan7, now that we finally understand just how vital the American language is, I think it’s high time you actually sat down and learned it properly.
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#10 ·
bluecyclist64 said:Well, Robert Morgan7, now that we finally understand just how vital the American language is, I think it’s high time you actually sat down and learned it properly.

Like I was saying 😁

How to spot a former American loyalist: they speak with perfect grammar 😉😂😁
bluecyclist64 bluecyclist64 Regular
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#11 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:Are most of you guys supporting this American linguistic mess just because you're obsessed with spelling errors? 🤷

You hit the nail on the head there. Since we clearly don't know how to speak our own language, I suppose we're actually all proponents of Serbo-American. After all, a true patriot doesn't have any time to worry about being illiterate; they're far too busy fighting off communists, anti-Christs, and the Masons, right?
P.S.
When I say "American," I am referring to the "American language"—or however you would prefer to phrase it: "The American Language."
Jack Myers59 Jack Myers59 Member
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#12 ·
Our language definitely carries more weight than that. We have well over 7 million speakers backing it up. 😉
Morgan Castillo Morgan Castillo Member
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#13 ·
Here is yet another "ranking" produced by those overpriced "analysts" who clutter our tabloids daily. And what does being "significant" even entail? Given the "scientific methodology" behind such studies, I suspect they simply copied speaker counts from Wikipedia and concluded that 99% of the world speaks one of these 37 languages. It’s much like those lists of "powerful people" where the wealthiest individual is automatically deemed the "most powerful."

By sheer numbers, the American language—if we were looking at a specific dialect—would rank well below 90th globally. Even if you grouped all related regional dialects together, it wouldn't break the top 50 most spoken languages. Looking at economic clout, such as GDP and purchasing power, the US doesn't fit that narrow profile either if we look at certain sub-sectors. So, how can this language possibly claim 37th place in terms of market "significance" or any other metric? I truly wonder what kind of "significance" they are measuring here.

To everyone currently wagging their tails because some overseas "authority" ranked us 37th in the world: perhaps consider if this is just another attempt to push the US back into a forced regional union or some outdated collective identity. It feels like an effort to bundle us back into a community with groups we worked so hard to separate from. The only way this language could rank that high is if they aren't actually talking about our unique tongue, but are instead trying to merge it with others to create a unified foundation for some new, "happy" regional alliance of small, aggrieved tribes.
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#14 ·
bluecyclist64 said:You hit the nail on the head there. Since we clearly don't know how to speak our own language, I suppose we're actually all proponents of Serbo-American. After all, a true patriot doesn't have any time to worry about being illiterate; they're far too busy fighting off communists, anti-Christs, and the Masons, right?
P.S.
When I say "American," I am referring to the "American language"—or however you would prefer to phrase it: "The American Language."

You caught me. 😁
PS
Get lost, this isn't the thread for talking about cheese.
Gregory Howard Gregory Howard Active Member
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#15 ·
rustywalker42 said:For crying out loud, where on earth am I supporting that dialect, you genius?!

It’s spelled "short story," not "shorter story." Get it right.

It’s written "two-part," but honestly? It should be "two part." Why make it harder than it needs to be?
We really need an option to choose between the "i" and "ije" spellings. This whole system is full of inconsistencies as it is. Why make it harder than it needs to be?

Don't get all worked up, but maybe if you actually knew your own language, you wouldn't be so sensitive. You're clearly just hearing what you want to hear.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_story

http://www.merriam-webster.com/

Is that so?
rustywalker42 rustywalker42 Active Member
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#16 ·
Gregory Howard said:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_story

http://www.merriam-webster.com/

Is that so?

Google pulls up way more hits for "short story," and I’ve actually got books sitting around my house with that exact title. Look, I don't have Smith's dictionary handy right now to double-check, so maybe I messed up—I'm happy to admit it. But I'm definitely doing better than the folks on this forum accusing me of pushing some weird linguistic agenda (?!), though God knows what they're basing that on.
Frank Moore4 Frank Moore4 Active Member
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#17 ·
This is just one more reason why we need to shut down those trolls on Wikipedia who are constantly trying to push that whole fake shared heritage narrative.
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#18 ·
Frank Moore4 said:This is just one more reason why we need to shut down those trolls on Wikipedia who are constantly trying to push that whole fake shared heritage narrative.

We need to get a federal language law passed first, then actually start enforcing it ourselves.
bluecyclist64 bluecyclist64 Regular
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#19 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:We need to get a federal language law passed first, then actually start enforcing it ourselves.

Don't get ahead of yourself, Mika. If people with your mindset start drafting language legislation, we might as well just head back to the Stone Age.

BTW, there's a short story over at Smith's.
Gregory Howard Gregory Howard Active Member
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#20 ·
rustywalker42 said:Google pulls up way more hits for "short story," and I’ve actually got books sitting around my house with that exact title. Look, I don't have Smith's dictionary handy right now to double-check, so maybe I messed up—I'm happy to admit it. But I'm definitely doing better than the folks on this forum accusing me of pushing some weird linguistic agenda (?!), though God knows what they're basing that on.

The rule is strictly "short story."
And that isn't because I'm trying to act superior or pretend I know things others don't. It's simply to point out that:

1) correcting other people's spelling is never appropriate.
2) grammar rules are riddled with flaws. Beyond what's already been mentioned, you have nonsense abbreviations like "dictionary" when any sane person knows we should just use the full word—just like how anyone would use "messenger" instead of some truncated version. It’s ridiculous. We shouldn't be inventing bizarre, fake rules about vowel length and contraction that have no basis in reality.

If you want to label someone a linguistic nationalist, people—at least in public discourse—judge you based on your actual record. ☕

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